Has Hollywood Run Out of Ideas?

[hookemhorns72]

I saw where they were talking about a new Blade Runner movie coming out. It got me to thinking. With remakes of classics coming out left and right (and I'm a fan of most of them) or prequels, how many of y'all are fans? Or is there a remake that you would like to see that Hollywood hasn't thought of yet?

[Yeagermeister]

I saw where they were talking about a new Blade Runner movie coming out. It got me to thinking. With remakes of classics coming out left and right (and I'm a fan of most of them) or prequels, how many of y'all are fans? Or is there a remake that you would like to see that Hollywood hasn't thought of yet?

Yes they have run out of ideas and pretty much all of the remakes I have seen sucked.

[vta]

Yes.

There are plenty of good books for them to pick up, read and adapt, but, (at least story -wise, because definitely not in terms of SPX), they've run dry on new ideas and are afraid to try something not nicely fitted to what they think is a guaranteed niche.

[big dog cowboy]

Something isn't right. Bad writers perhaps? I agree with vta that Hollywood seems to take the safest route to make money because nothing matters but the bottom line.

[hookemhorns72]

Something isn't right. Bad writers perhaps? I agree with vta that Hollywood seems to take the safest route to make money because nothing matters but the bottom line.


Have we come full circle? vta and big dog are right. Are the publishers requesting too much money for the rights? IDK but one or two remakes a year I understand but it seems like a third of the movies are remakes.

[Risen Star]

I think it's a financial issue. Those movies have made money. So you'll continue to see more of them until they stop making money.

[Sam I Am]

Come on guys, isn't it obvious? They haven't run out of ideas, it's just that their current idea is to remake previously made movies! ;)

[dez_for_prez]

Music is the same. Blew my mind when I heard my parents singing the chorus to a "new" song.

[vta]

Have we come full circle? vta and big dog are right. Are the publishers requesting too much money for the rights? IDK but one or two remakes a year I understand but it seems like a third of the movies are remakes.

I doubt it concerning publishing rights. From the outside and having done some research on selling screenplays, it looks to me like it's the business decisions they're making. It's entirely cannibalistic (all these retreads) and exclusive, either by nepotism or ideology and also political. They've let it all go to their heads and think they have something to say with some movies being touted as 'important'.

[reddyuta]

Is it a sequel for Blade runner or just a remake? I think they should have left that movie alone anyway.

[TheCount]

I saw where they were talking about a new Blade Runner movie coming out. It got me to thinking. With remakes of classics coming out left and right (and I'm a fan of most of them) or prequels, how many of y'all are fans? Or is there a remake that you would like to see that Hollywood hasn't thought of yet?

I always laugh about threads like this. There are original films released EVERY WEEKEND. Some of them, very good.

The fact that no one can be bothered to go watch something that they haven't had marketed to them over and over and over doesn't mean there aren't good movies still being made out of Hollywood.

If Box Office numbers are the only measuring stick for success, then yes, there is nothing good coming out of Hollywood.

Is it a sequel for Blade runner or just a remake? I think they should have left that movie alone anyway.

It'll probably be a prequel, and yes they should have left it alone.

[vta]

Is it a sequel for Blade runner or just a remake? I think they should have left that movie alone anyway.

Ridly Scott calls it "A total reinvention," but it's being called a follow up.

[MetalHead]

They ran out of ideas long time ago.
They have made King Kong 3 times,Dances with Wolves twice(they just called them "Pocahontas" and "Avatar"...same plot),they made a CGI movie about Marmaduke,think about it,Marmaduke.
What's next?..."Friday" based on Rebecca Black's song?..."Fright Night"?...oh wait,they just did that.

Remember that movie with Nicholson and Dicaprio?The Departed.
It is a carbon copy of a chinese film called "Infernal Affairs".

The well is all dried out.

[Yeagermeister]

They ran out of ideas long time ago.
They have made King Kong 3 times,Dances with Wolves twice(they just called them "Pocahontas" and "Avatar"...same plot),they made a CGI movie about Marmaduke,think about it,Marmaduke.
What's next?..."Friday" based on Rebecca Black's song?..."Fright Night"?...oh wait,they just did that.

Remember that movie with Nicholson and Dicaprio?The Departed.
It is a carbon copy of a chinese film called "Infernal Affairs".

The well is all dried out.

Next thing you know they will remake Nightmare on Elm Street....oh wait :(

[StevenOtero]

Next thing you know they will remake Nightmare on Elm Street....oh wait :(and Fright Night....oh wait
Red Dawn....oh wait

on and on and on and on

Yeah, the worst part of it all is there are so many people out there young and old that have no idea they're remakes.

[peplaw06]

IMO the problem is that fewer studios are wanting to take risks. I think there are plenty of new ideas out there, just to get a studio to back it takes an amazing script or some big name actors. They're risk averse right now, not wanting to spend money on a new idea to have it bomb.

[Hoofbite]

I think all these studios think they can take an older movie and give it the attention it deserves and come out with a hit.

Problem is, most of the time the reason the older movie is popular is because it is an older movie and was ahead of it's time, at the time.

[notherbob]

I read somewhere that another factor is copyrights and copyright infringement. It is apparently safer to do a remake than an original movie with parts of it that may bear some resemblence to some scene in some other movie decades ago and then expensive lawsuits pop up.

It made sense to me.

[Teren_Kanan]

:rolleyes:We decide what movies to make with our money.

We make a lot of bad choices and have for years. When we choose garbage day in and day out, garbage is whats going to be produced en mass.

How many Spoof movies did the guys who did Scary Movie 3+ make? Date Movie.. Meet the Spartans, Superhero Movie? Seriously? Why are these terrible movies made? cause they make money.

Stop going to see bad movies, and stop taking your kids. Maybe one day they'll focus more on quality.

People who think the Transformers movies are good, is why Hollywood sucks.

Now I'm gonna go spend Money on Spy Kids 4D!!! Or wait, maybe I'll see Final Destination 16.
....:rolleyes::rolleyes:

[MonsterD]

They need to stop any prequels sequels re-imaginings or re-boots. If they do a Bladerunner, just a non-connected parallel story, that won't clustermuck the whole characters and environment.

[theogt]

Blade Runner was based on a book, not an original idea. I'm sure that book borrowed a lot of ideas from previous works. And so on.

[CowboyMcCoy]

Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?

[CowboyMcCoy]

Blade Runner was based on a book, not an original idea. I'm sure that book borrowed a lot of ideas from previous works. And so on.

It was loosely based off of a book, but Phillip K Dick made a name for himself. He was just before his time. His books are really good if you haven't read them. I've read a couple. Blade Runner wasn't as good as the book, imo.

[kmp77]

I saw where they were talking about a new Blade Runner movie coming out. It got me to thinking. With remakes of classics coming out left and right (and I'm a fan of most of them) or prequels, how many of y'all are fans? Or is there a remake that you would like to see that Hollywood hasn't thought of yet?

I think it's either a sequel or prequel with the original director. He's also making a new Aliens prequel also called "Prometheus".

[rkell87]

it has been like this for a while now, even the most 'original' movie of the last decade(inception) was ripped off on donald duck comic in the 40s(i think)

http://comicbookmovie.com/fansites/blinkuldhc/news/?a=21055

[TheCount]

it has been like this for a while now, even the most 'original' movie of the last decade(inception) was ripped off on donald duck comic in the 40s(i think)

http://comicbookmovie.com/fansites/blinkuldhc/news/?a=21055

Who on earth ever said Inception was the most original movie in the last decade?! :laugh2:

[Kangaroo]

I very choosey at what movies I see in the theater now days it cost to freakin much anymore. If I take my wife and kids it is usually around $24 dollars that is with no drink popcorn nothing.

So my options is wait for pvp hey I can get 4-5 movies on my 52" tv for that cost. Or if I wait a little more hey I can get it at red box for a $1 that is 24 of the movies.

Hey I may be able to stream

[TheCount]

I very choosey at what movies I see in the theater now days it cost to freakin much anymore. If I take my wife and kids it is usually around $24 dollars that is with no drink popcorn nothing.

So my options is wait for pvp hey I can get 4-5 movies on my 52" tv for that cost. Or if I wait a little more hey I can get it at red box for a $1 that is 24 of the movies.

Hey I may be able to stream

I'm much more choosy about the places I watch movies in as well these days. If I'm paying so much, I refuse to go to a crappy theater with sticky floors, bad smells, uncomfortable seats and nasty bathrooms.

[Teren_Kanan]

Rottentomatoes is one of the best review sites around. I tend to agree with them on most movies (not all).

Normally any type of Hollywood blockbuster is out of the question for me, especially during the summer. They are almost always bad.

I always read about a movie and lots of different reviews from different places before seeing a movie.

Any movie worthwhile I actually buy on DVD, I have about 50 DVD's that I haven't even taken the plastic wrapping off of. The other half of not spending money on garbage, is actually spending money on the quality movies you find. Speak with your pocket folks =p

Don't give Michael Bay anymore money please. STOP IT!!!!

[rkell87]

Who on earth ever said Inception was the most original movie in the last decade?! :laugh2:
just about every critic ever

[TheCount]

just about every critic ever

I've heard it called a lot of things, but "the most original movie in the last decade" was certainly not one of them.

[rkell87]

I've heard it called a lot of things, but "the most original movie in the last decade" was certainly not one of them.
well then what was the most original movie of the last decade?

[TheCount]

well then what was the most original movie of the last decade?

How should I know?

More than likely a movie that barely anyone saw because it didn't have an a-list celeb and explosions in it.

Hell, it might be Brokeback Mountain if we're taking guesses.

[rkell87]

How should I know?

More than likely a movie that barely anyone saw because it didn't have an a-list celeb and explosions in it.

Hell, it might be Brokeback Mountain if we're taking guesses.
well your the one disputing inception being really original so i thought you had a better example

[CowboyMcCoy]

well your the one disputing inception being really original so i thought you had a better example

He gave you his answer.

[rkell87]

He gave you his answer.
did he? i didnt feel like he he was serious about brokeback mountain but here you go-It is a film adaptation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Film_adaptation) of the 1997 short story of the same name (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brokeback_Mountain_%28short_story%29)

[CowboyMcCoy]

did he? i didnt feel like he he was serious about brokeback mountain but here you go-It is a film adaptation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Film_adaptation) of the 1997 short story of the same name (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brokeback_Mountain_%28short_story%29)

:laugh2: like i said...

[Passepartout]

They are also making "Footloose" due to hit on October 14th. As they bombed with the recent "Conan the Barbarian" movie. So yeah, Hollywood is running out of ideas.

[TheCount]

did he? i didnt feel like he he was serious about brokeback mountain but here you go-It is a film adaptation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Film_adaptation) of the 1997 short story of the same name (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brokeback_Mountain_%28short_story%29)

I'm not sure that stops it from being an original movie, but as I said, I have no idea. If you're looking for a movie with ideas no other movie has touched on, then chances are said movie is an incomprehensible mess.

[CowboyMcCoy]

Hollywood Babylon?

[Illini88228]

Hollywood has always made lots of remakes. There are fewer good ideas than there is money to be made from the movies. So, when a good idea comes along they will make it several times over. It seems like maybe the '90s were a particularly low decade for remakes and that has given people the impression that the current remake/prequel/sequel craze is something new as opposed to a resumption of the way that things have been for most of film history.

Heck before TV there were several movie series with multiple sequels.

[Reality]

It comes down to risk-vs-reward and the risks are greater with a new IP based movie even if the book it is based on sold well. Rebooting an old movie is not always a bad thing especially with today's technology. However, I draw the line at rebooting recently rebooted movies. Every so often, a reboot of a reboot will be successful so it pushes the movie studios to make more of them instead of original stories or movies off popular books. They are counting on the sheep (us) to go see the new reboot if we liked the last reboot.

#reality

[CowboyMcCoy]

It comes down to risk-vs-reward and the risks are greater with a new IP based movie even if the book it is based on sold well. Rebooting an old movie is not always a bad thing especially with today's technology. However, I draw the line at rebooting recently rebooted movies. Every so often, a reboot of a reboot will be successful so it pushes the movie studios to make more of them instead of original stories or movies off popular books. They are counting on the sheep (us) to go see the new reboot if we liked the last reboot.

#reality

I agree with this. I really have grown tired of Hollywood. Sure, there are some good movies out there. But for every one good one it seems like there are two are three bad ones.

I still prefer documentaries over movies most times, but I'm always a sucker for a good 3D flick at the IMax theatre. Those are awesome. I'm not a Pirates of the Caribbean fan, but my wife is. And technology has really made the potential to make great movies. They just don't have the best scripts, it seems.

But yeah, it sort of gets old after the 4th reboot. LOL

[rkell87]

Blade Runner was based on a book, not an original idea. I'm sure that book borrowed a lot of ideas from previous works. And so on.

I'm not sure that stops it from being an original movie, but as I said, I have no idea. If you're looking for a movie with ideas no other movie has touched on, then chances are said movie is an incomprehensible mess.
if you agree with theo it does(which in this case i do)