How would you feel if we drafted a RB in the 1st round?

[AMERICAS_FAN]

Given that we have several needs, how would you feel if we drafted a RB in the first round, let's say with the #20 pick (assuming we're going LB/DE with our first 1st round pick)?

Yes I know we need FS and perhaps WR but we doid add to the secondary this free-agency-season at CB and we already have Pete Hunter and Lynn Scott to provide depth at CB and FS. We also do have good depth at WR (supposedly Glenn has made a full recovery). We've also added to the DL and OL and have some young, previosly-injured players coming back at OL.

So then, why not draft a RB to build a young, formidalble 1-2 punch with Julius Jones and a new draftee? After all, Parcell's offense is build on a run-first mentality - using the run to set up the pass - and succeding at this can only help Bledsoe, by taking the pressure off of him and opening things up for the TEs and WRs we already have.

What are your thoughts? I personally think this wuld be the best move we can make.

AF

[crakinskulls]

I can see where u are comming from but we have far bigger needs than a backup RB

[Avery]

Well, if we're drafting a RB at #20, it would have to be either Caddy, Brown or Benson. Next in line is Fason and he's a borderline first rounder that will probably go in the 2nd.

So unless it's one of those three at #20, I don't see it happening.

[Natedawg44]

I wouldn't mind it if it was one of the big three, because we would be drafting BPA (a novel concept) seemed to work well for the Saints when they already had Ricky Williams and Duece McAllister fell.

[jobberone]

Well, if we're drafting a RB at #20, it would have to be either Caddy, Brown or Benson. Next in line is Fason and he's a borderline first rounder that will probably go in the 2nd.

So unless it's one of those three at #20, I don't see it happening.

Exactamondo

[WoodysGirl]

I'd be against it. I wouldn't be opposed to drafting a RB on the 2nd day, but not in the first round. I think we need to apply those premium draft picks to positions of need if there's a guy there to be had. We can always get one of the many UFAs we seem to find to play back up.

[Madzo]

Don't like the idea in the 1st round, maybe in the 2nd,but we need LB's , DE, FS, WR, We could still use Lee as a backup or find a formidable back up in FA or in the june cuts. But I wouldn't draft one, we have far greater needs.

[Eskimo]

I would take Ronnie Brown if he fell to #20 but that is never going to happen. In fact, he probably won't even fall to #11.

As for the others, no to any of them in the first round.

I wouldn't be averse to drafting Shelton in the 2nd round, though. He could be a serious complement to Julius with his power.

[Fletch]

Cowboys definitely won't be drafting a RB in the first round.

[Big Country]

I agree with crakinskulls... we can get a RB anytime because players from every position are going to come and go for every team from training camp, pre-season, all the way up until September of this year... why worry about RBs in April when you have much more pressing needs to fill and we would have plenty of chances to pick one up at any time after the draft.

Plus, as long as you're talking offense, we are much more in need of a gamebreaking WR and a RT. BUT, who knows what they will do.

[Sarge]

Given that we have several needs, how would you feel if we drafted a RB in the first round, let's say with the #20 pick (assuming we're going LB/DE with our first 1st round pick)?

Yes I know we need FS and perhaps WR but we doid add to the secondary this free-agency-season at CB and we already have Pete Hunter and Lynn Scott to provide depth at CB and FS. We also do have good depth at WR (supposedly Glenn has made a full recovery). We've also added to the DL and OL and have some young, previosly-injured players coming back at OL.

So then, why not draft a RB to build a young, formidalble 1-2 punch with Julius Jones and a new draftee? After all, Parcell's offense is build on a run-first mentality - using the run to set up the pass - and succeding at this can only help Bledsoe, by taking the pressure off of him and opening things up for the TEs and WRs we already have.

What are your thoughts? I personally think this wuld be the best move we can make.

AF

If we didn't draft a RB in the 1st last year - why in the world would we do it this year?

[JackMagist]

I would feel that it was unnecessary and would likely end up being a disruption to the team (see Cory Dillion / Rudi Johnson or McGahee / Travis Henry among others). This is not the old days of running fullbacks where two running backs could play at the same time ala Calvin Hill and Duane Thomas. Also, it would be a waste in that the pick could be better used to fill a position of more dire need.

All of that being said, if Benson, Brown or C. Williams fell to us at #11 and Merriman, D. Johnson and M. Williams are off the board they might be so clearly the BPA as to make it almost impossible to pass on them. That being the case, however, I would think we would and should look for a trade at that point. It would be the perfect opportunity to move down a few spots and pick up a 2nd.

So in any circumstance actually drafting the RB and bringing him onto the team would be a mistake for many reasons.

[AMERICAS_FAN]

I'd be against it. I wouldn't be opposed to drafting a RB on the 2nd day, but not in the first round. I think we need to apply those premium draft picks to positions of need if there's a guy there to be had. We can always get one of the many UFAs we seem to find to play back up.

Ok, but what if we address main positions of need like LB/DE in the draft (with the first of our first round picks) and/or free agency (with bensen and other free agents we've added)? Are you mplying that RB is not a need position? With Julius Jones out we had no running game. And with him in we were still hampered because when we had to spell him we had little to spell him with.

Yes we do have other needs on defense, like at Fs, but I'd hessitate to waste a high pick at that position when we could instead add to other more key positions.

Given that our offense is based on a run-first ascheme I would contest that additng serious talent that complemets Julius Jones will take our running game - and as a resuklt our offense - to the next level.

AF

[Howboutdemcowboys31]

ide definitly be against it if we didnt know what to do at #20 trade down

[JackMagist]

Ok, but what if we address main positions of need like LB/DE in the draft (with the first of our first round picks) and/or free agency (with bensen and other free agents we've added)? Are you mplying that RB is not a need position? With Julius Jones out we had no running game. And with him in we were still hampered because when we had to spell him we had little to spell him with.

Yes we do have other needs on defense, like at Fs, but I'd hessitate to waste a high pick at that position when we could instead add to other more key positions.

Given that our offense is based on a run-first ascheme I would contest that additng serious talent that complemets Julius Jones will take our running game - and as a resuklt our offense - to the next level.

AFI think it is not a first round need. More of a 4th round need.

[Dale]

If he's the best guy on the board, then take him. The Cowboys would find a way to get him in the game and make him productive. You also never know about injuries and it certainly wouldn't hurt to have a Plan B for Julius.

With that said, clearly running back would be near the bottom of my list of "hopeful" picks. But it's been proven time and time again that the best strategy is to just take the best guy available and not reach for need. Worst case scenario, he could always be traded for a productive player in a season or two once Julius proves consistently to be our guy.

[WoodysGirl]

Ok, but what if we address main positions of need like LB/DE in the draft (with the first of our first round picks) and/or free agency (with bensen and other free agents we've added)? Are you mplying that RB is not a need position? With Julius Jones out we had no running game. And with him in we were still hampered because when we had to spell him we had little to spell him with.

Yes we do have other needs on defense, like at Fs, but I'd hessitate to waste a high pick at that position when we could instead add to other more key positions.

Given that our offense is based on a run-first ascheme I would contest that additng serious talent that complemets Julius Jones will take our running game - and as a resuklt our offense - to the next level.

AF

It's not to say we don't need a RB to go with Julius, but RB is not as high on the list of importance as FS or LB. I agree when Julius went down last year, we were running in mud. But I disagree with investing a high pick in another RB.

At FS, we have no identifiable starter. Davis? Scott? Just question marks. At LB, who replaces Dex? Again no identifiable starter. Just more question marks. We know what we have in Julius, so I don't think it's necessary to draft that high for a backup.

[chinch]

it would be idiotic.

tuna would never waste a #1 on a RB... he feels he can get productive ones like C.Martin, JJ in later rounds ;)

[AMERICAS_FAN]

It's not to say we don't need a RB to go with Julius, but RB is not as high on the list of importance as FS or LB. I agree when Julius went down last year, we were running in mud. But I disagree with investing a high pick in another RB.

At FS, we have no identifiable starter. Davis? Scott? Just question marks. At LB, who replaces Dex? Again no identifiable starter. Just more question marks. We know what we have in Julius, so I don't think it's necessary to draft that high for a backup.

Good points! Actually since it now seems we're keeping Dat Nguyeen, I think we'll further address LB at #11 where we'll pick up a guy like Merriman (sp?). So by the time we draft at #20 we'll have addreesed LB. It's tough to say where we'd be at DE without knowing what's going on with Howard and what we'll give up if we land him.

I can see how FS may look like a need position but I don't see Dallas using a high pick to address that position. Keith Davis is in position to do this year what Hunter did last year - play for a starting job - at FS. And hunter can always play FS. Previously he played very well as a nickel CB for us and those skills translate to FS. And lyn Scott - while he gets an bad wrap on this board - provides good depth at FS. With those guys I think we have better depth in our defensive backfield than we do in our offensive backfield, which is why I think RB may be more of a need area than what appears at face value. But then again, if we don't land Howard in free agency, we may be looking for DE at the #20 spot.

AF

[kmp77]

What did Lee ever do to not earn Bill's trust or whatever? He looked impressive at times as the # 2......but he rarely got the ball.

[Future]

How would you feel if we drafted a RB in the 1st round?

In a word...PISSED! Jones seems to be a stud RB, no need to get one anywhere before the 4th round. We just need somebody to fill in every now and again, JJ is going to get the ball if he is breathing...

[Jarv]

RB and PK would piss me off equally in the 1st.

[dargonking999]

Given that we have several needs, how would you feel if we drafted a RB in the first round, let's say with the #20 pick (assuming we're going LB/DE with our first 1st round pick)?

Yes I know we need FS and perhaps WR but we doid add to the secondary this free-agency-season at CB and we already have Pete Hunter and Lynn Scott to provide depth at CB and FS. We also do have good depth at WR (supposedly Glenn has made a full recovery). We've also added to the DL and OL and have some young, previosly-injured players coming back at OL.

So then, why not draft a RB to build a young, formidalble 1-2 punch with Julius Jones and a new draftee? After all, Parcell's offense is build on a run-first mentality - using the run to set up the pass - and succeding at this can only help Bledsoe, by taking the pressure off of him and opening things up for the TEs and WRs we already have.

What are your thoughts? I personally think this wuld be the best move we can make.

AF

so we draft a RB in the 1st round to back up our second round pick. yea thats some genious thinking, lets take away the really needed picks on Defense for a 1-2 pounch you can get with another guy in late rounds

[Sandman52]

If one of the BIG Three RB is sitting at either of our 1st's (w/o DJ, Merrimen, MW, or Barron/Brown), you've gotta believe there's gonna be a team out there just dying to trade up. It could be like Buffalo's trade for the JP Losman pick all over again.

[MichaelWinicki]

We draft a RB in round 1 and I'll break something of substantial value in Juke's house... and I can do it too!

Why all the concern about a backup RB?

Get us a guy in round 4, bring in a cut vet from June 1 and we'll be fine. We've got bigger problems on this team.

What 1st or 2nd round picks were spent on backs when Tony D or Emmitt were here? And we're talking a span of over 20 seasons.

[Sarge]

We draft a RB in round 1 and I'll break something of substantial value in Juke's house... and I can do it too!

Why all the concern about a backup RB?

Get us a guy in round 4, bring in a cut vet from June 1 and we'll be fine. We've got bigger problems on this team.

What 1st or 2nd round picks were spent on backs when Tony D or Emmitt were here? And we're talking a span of over 20 seasons.


Good luck finding something of substantial value in Jukes house.

[LoneStar22]

It's hard to imagine how it would feel because it's not going to happen.... you could like depth at the RB position, however a true 3rd down back like Travis Henry would be more idea than anyone in the top end of the draft....In other words, I like Julius as a full-time RB.

[MichaelWinicki]

Good luck finding something of substantial value in Jukes house.


ROFLMAO!

Oh Sarge that was too good!

Evening Sarge!

[Juke99]

Good luck finding something of substantial value in Jukes house.


Well, it looks like the two of you are already breaking two things in Juke's house...and as far as I am concerned, they are of substantial value..

[jobberone]

If one of the BIG Three RB is sitting at either of our 1st's (w/o DJ, Merrimen, MW, or Barron/Brown), you've gotta believe there's gonna be a team out there just dying to trade up. It could be like Buffalo's trade for the JP Losman pick all over again.

Not that's a possible scenario.

[Avery]

Luckily, this won't be an issue in April so none of us should be wasting keystrokes on this subject since the big three will be gone before #11 anyway.

[Novacek84]

My response is many of you on this board really don't know Parcells' tendencies. I am from the northeast and I have watched his career unfold while with the Giants, Pats & Jets. This is a defensive coach, when he sees a need to draft defense he does it. Defense is obviously a need. We will pick a defensive player with both the #11 and #20 picks if both are kept. Bank on it. We don't need a RB. This is not the 70's with Dorsett and Newhouse in the same back field. NFL offenses today are designed with a single feature back in mind. We will be OK with Lee or someone else backing up Julius. Julius is our focal point. If he gets hurt, like last year, that's part of the game and you live with it. If not Lee, Parcells will find someone to help out Jones. If Julius is the next NFL star, you don't bring in another top guy to split carries. Just look around the league. Last year's Jets are a great example of a team with a starting caliber backup that hardly ever saw the field. That is not what we need here. You can't waste a first round pick when you have so many other needs for starters as well as roster depth.

[mr.jameswoods]

I don't really think the 1-2 RB punch model works in the NFL as well as it does in college. We all know the Auburn situation but in the NFL, ego unfortunately plays into the scene. A great RB just doesn't want to share the spotlight with a guy who is equally good and could potentially replace him.

I would hate it if we drafted a RB because it would threaten Julius Jones and ignore other needs on the team.

[BIGDen]

"How would you feel if we drafted a RB in the 1st round?"

:puke: :ralph: :nervous: :angry: :cry3: :abuseme: :blech: :bang2:

[MichaelWinicki]

I don't really think the 1-2 RB punch model works in the NFL as well as it does in college. We all know the Auburn situation but in the NFL, ego unfortunately plays into the scene. A great RB just doesn't want to share the spotlight with a guy who is equally good and could potentially replace him.

I would hate it if we drafted a RB because it would threaten Julius Jones and ignore other needs on the team.


Nail on the head James...

It doesn't work at all.

Like I said before, I've sat through two great running back era's with both Tony D. and Emmitt and we've never drafted any back in the first round with either of those two on the roster.

[Verdict]

I wouldn't mind it if it was one of the big three, because we would be drafting BPA (a novel concept) seemed to work well for the Saints when they already had Ricky Williams and Duece McAllister fell.

Great post. Never draft for need. Always take the best player available. If you reach you get burned. This year reminds me of the past 10. We are still looking for a defensive end. If we draft one we will likely reach if it is a first round pick. Bad Idea.

[hendog]

If we're talking of using a 4th rder on a RB then why don't we just send our 5th to Pittsburgh for Verron Hayes. He's not a risk like a draft pick would be and we already know that BP likes him. He would be the perfect compliment to JJ and wouldn't command alot of carries.

[Jester33]

Bad move! We still have Bickerstaff and Kincaid ( NFLE) both should be able to provide adequate back-up for julius. Bickerstaff has showed flashes here and there, now if we can keep him healthly.

[conner01]

we could take benson and play him at lb.someone has to replace coakley so i guess he's the man.

you don't spend a 1st rnd pick on a spot you don't need.there way to expensive to set on the bench

[TX Cowboy]

That would be the dumbest move ever we are not in search of a starter with Julius
carrying the load. all we need is a back that can be a reciever out of the backfield
and a pass blocker, with speed on short down situations, I hope we find a FB that
can be that kind of player we need