103.3 making it sound like Dat is back on the table

[jksmith269]

Espn radio 103.3 is making it sound like Dat is back on the table with a second round pick for Howard.......Do they know something we don't or are they just speculating?

They said "NOW with Dat and a second on the table for Howard" so is he on the block or not?????????

[Champsheart]

Espn radio 103.3 is making it sound like Dat is back on the table with a second round pick for Howard.......Do they know something we don't or are they just speculating?

They said "NOW with Dat and a second on the table for Howard" so is he on the block or not?????????

I doubt it.
Since it has been out there before they are probably bringing it back up because it would probably close the deal.

I did not hear it though, but just reading what they said it just sounds like a hypothetical.

[dstew60105]

Espn radio 103.3 is making it sound like Dat is back on the table with a second round pick for Howard.......Do they know something we don't or are they just speculating?

They said "NOW with Dat and a second on the table for Howard" so is he on the block or not?????????

Sounds like they are just trying to fill air time.

[RCowboyFan]

Espn radio 103.3 is making it sound like Dat is back on the table with a second round pick for Howard.......Do they know something we don't or are they just speculating?

They said "NOW with Dat and a second on the table for Howard" so is he on the block or not?????????


No, both of them are usually bozos when coming to credible sources. The guy called Nue Dawg (nuey Scruggs ?) is the guy who said BP and Carthon had a huge fight and thats why he was released.

Anyway, they are just speculating not actual news or have a source.

[Mike 1967]

Espn radio 103.3 is making it sound like Dat is back on the table with a second round pick for Howard.......Do they know something we don't or are they just speculating?

They said "NOW with Dat and a second on the table for Howard" so is he on the block or not?????????

This would depend on NO IMO.

If the Saints are actually willing to hold onto Howard for another year....then I could see us putting Dat back on the table.

That was the original reported offer from Jones and Jones.......and I believe that they pulled Dat off the table because they thought they could stong arm NO.

Men's pride can be a very hard thing to predict.....all logic aside.

Perhaps the power brokers at NO have decided that they are not going to get the short end of the stick.....even if it costs them in the long run.

[Doomsday101]

No, both of them are usually bozos when coming to credible sources. The guy called Nue Dawg (nuey Scruggs ?) is the guy who said BP and Carthon had a huge fight and thats why he was released.

Anyway, they are just speculating not actual news or have a source.

I agree and I don't think Dallas is looking to lose yet another LB this off-season. Yes we need to fill a hole but you don't want to create another hole in the process.

[dmq]

I have been listening to these guys for about 2 weeks now. I have come to the conclusion that they know little to nothing. In fact, fake Jurry probably is more insightful.

[Nors]

Dat, a #2 and we have to pay Winstrom money?

No thanks -

[Avery]

I really have a tough time with two things:

1. N.O's fascination with Dat
2. JJ and the FO adamantly speaking out against trading Dat

It'd be really tough for them to go back on their word once it's been printed like that. They would have stated 'No comment' if it had a snowball's chance.

Maybe they're just reading message boards...

[StoneyBurk]

Newy is friends with several Cowboys , and they tell him what is really going on in the locker room. I he said Mo and Bill had a fight , I would beleive him.

[OldButDeadly]

I really have a tough time with two things:

1. N.O's fascination with Dat
2. JJ and the FO adamantly speaking out against trading Dat

It'd be really tough for them to go back on their word once it's been printed like that. They would have stated 'No comment' if it had a snowball's chance.

Maybe they're just reading message boards...

Well...if they are fascinated with Dat...take him and a later pick...

I like Dat and all....But I think I would like to see Bill's Big LBs in action...

Kev

[Mike 1967]

Newy is friends with several Cowboys , and they tell him what is really going on in the locker room. I he said Mo and Bill had a fight , I would beleive him.

Who is Newy ?

[Mike 1967]

Well...if they are fascinated with Dat...take him and a later pick...

I like Dat and all....But I think I would like to see Bill's Big LBs in action...

Kev

I hear ya...I would like bigger LB's to so long as we did not lose speed at the position.........but which big LB's are you talking about ?

[Doomsday101]

Well...if they are fascinated with Dat...take him and a later pick...

I like Dat and all....But I think I would like to see Bill's Big LBs in action...

Kev

And who would these LB be? rookies with no experiance or you go out in FA and pay out big bucks. I think Dallas would be making a mistake letting yet another LB go.

[Hollywood Henderson]

Lets all HOPE tiny Dat is part of the deal, its addition by subrtaction there!

[Erik_H]

Espn radio 103.3 is making it sound like Dat is back on the table with a second round pick for Howard.......Do they know something we don't or are they just speculating?

They said "NOW with Dat and a second on the table for Howard" so is he on the block or not?????????

The impression I got was that Dat was never on the table to begin with.

The Saints said: "How bout putiing Dat on the table?"

The Cowboys said: "No."

One team asking and the other rejecting doesn't make it a trade option, which this apparently never was.

[RCowboyFan]

Newy is friends with several Cowboys , and they tell him what is really going on in the locker room. I he said Mo and Bill had a fight , I would beleive him.

Ok, yeah, I guess BP and Carthon are one of the biggest liars, since they denied they had a fight. No wonder all his former players don't trust BP :rolleyes:

[jterrell]

Dat, a #2 and we have to pay Winstrom money?

No thanks -
exactly my take.

if u r paying free agent money then giving up much in picks or players is begging for trouble.

[Everlastingxxx]

The impression I got was that Dat was never on the table to begin with.

The Saints said: "How bout putiing Dat on the table?"

The Cowboys said: "No."

I think the Cowboys paused and scratched their head, then said "No."

[Kittymama]

Newy is friends with several Cowboys , and they tell him what is really going on in the locker room. I he said Mo and Bill had a fight , I would beleive him.
I wouldn't believe a word he says. Parcells, just 2 weeks ago, was talking about how much he missed Mo but was glad he had an opportunity to "spread his wings." He knew Mo needed a chance to do something on another team. Now either Parcells was lying thru his teeth (altho why he would talk about Mo at all, unless this was a genuine feeling, is a mystery) or Newey tends to grasp at straws. And how would players know what went down between Mo & BP?

[Doomsday101]

I wouldn't believe a word he says. Parcells, just 2 weeks ago, was talking about how much he missed Mo but was glad he had an opportunity to "spread his wings." He knew Mo needed a chance to do something on another team. Now either Parcells was lying thru his teeth (altho why he would talk about Mo at all, unless this was a genuine feeling, is a mystery) or Newey tends to grasp at straws. And how would players know what went down between Mo & BP?

I agree, If Bill and Mo had a falling out the most you would get out of Parcells is "No Comment"

[Erik_H]

I think the Cowboys paused and scratched their head, then said "No."
:laugh2:

[Chief]

Lets all HOPE tiny Dat is part of the deal, its addition by subrtaction there!

He's 240 pounds, or close to it.

Are you talking about height?

That's like wanting a tall running back. Height is overrated for several positions and MLB is one of those.

[Shotgun Dave]

I went on record earlier as saying I thought the deal would still get done but that it would be for Dat and not a 2nd round pick. I will amend that in light of recent events and say the deal is for Dat and a 5th round pick either this year or next.

Remember...YOU SAW IT HERE FIRST!

[ddh33]

I would really like for this deal to get done, but I obviously want the Cowboys to get the best deal possible.

I think Dat, the player, is replaceable. You can find MLBs willing to hit and make tackles. What would be missed, in my opinion, is the leadership and intangibles. I honestly think that's what the Cowboys are more worried about.

Out of curiosity, why do you think the deal will be centered around Dat instead of a pick, Dave?

[Shotgun Dave]

I would really like for this deal to get done, but I obviously want the Cowboys to get the best deal possible.

I think Dat, the player, is replaceable. You can find MLBs willing to hit and make tackles. What would be missed, in my opinion, is the leadership and intangibles. I honestly think that's what the Cowboys are more worried about.

Out of curiosity, why do you think the deal will be centered around Dat instead of a pick, Dave?

I think Dat will be part of the deal because...

1 - He does not fit the mold of what BP wants in a LB (productivity aside).
2 - We have at least 2 LB's that ARE more in that mold (James, Singleton)
3 - NO wants Dat.
4 - Pick #11 has a good shot at DJ or Merriman.
5 - Dat's value is relatively high right now so strike while hot.

That's basically it. I think JJ and BP are trying to "freeze" NO right now with the deadline looming on the Franchise tag for NO. However, they will add a low round pick to the deal to "play nice". Notice we don't trade with Minny these days after we ripped them wide open on the Herschel trade. Giving them Dat AND a draft pick (even a low one next year) allows NO to save face.

I really do think this will be done by tomorrow - Dat and a low round pick (prolly a 5th).

[Mike 1967]

I think Dat will be part of the deal because...

1 - He does not fit the mold of what BP wants in a LB (productivity aside).
2 - We have at least 2 LB's that ARE more in that mold (James, Singleton)
3 - NO wants Dat.
4 - Pick #11 has a good shot at DJ or Merriman.
5 - Dat's value is relatively high right now so strike while hot.

That's basically it. I think JJ and BP are trying to "freeze" NO right now with the deadline looming on the Franchise tag for NO. However, they will add a low round pick to the deal to "play nice". Notice we don't trade with Minny these days after we ripped them wide open on the Herschel trade. Giving them Dat AND a draft pick (even a low one next year) allows NO to save face.

I really do think this will be done by tomorrow - Dat and a low round pick (prolly a 5th).

I like your thoughts on this. Makes a lot of sense.