WP: Stephen Bowen: Phil Costa is ‘lying’ about fake snap counts

[Juke99]

Stephen Bowen: Phil Costa is ‘lying’ about fake snap counts
By Mike Jones

Washington Redskins defensive end Stephen Bowen took offense to accusations made by the Dallas Cowboys that he and his fellow linemen simulated Tony Romo’s snap counts in an attempt to throw off Cowboys center Phil Costa during Monday night’s game.

Costa struggled with several of his snaps during the game and multiple times hiked the ball before Romo was ready. Romo was visibly upset during the game, giving the center repeated tongue-lashings.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/football-insider/post/stephen-bowen-phil-costa-is-lying-about-fake-snap-counts/2011/09/28/gIQALmhB5K_blog.html

[Joshmvii]

That's bush league of Costa if he really made that up. Honestly, the Cowboys should've gone to a silent count even at home after the 2nd berserker snap he pulled. We'll never know if they were really doing it or not, so hopefully it's just not an issue going forward.

[stasheroo]

That's bush league of Costa if he really made that up. Honestly, the Cowboys should've gone to a silent count even at home after the 2nd berserker snap he pulled. We'll never know if they were really doing it or not, so hopefully it's just not an issue going forward.

If - as Shanahan mentioned - the center is in fact mic'd, it should be pretty easy to get to the bottom of it.

And I for one look forward to that happening and getting a definitive word on the matter.

[Reality]

Not take the homer side here .. but since Costa was mic'ed, don't you think he would have considered that fact before claiming that the other side was calling out the cadence?

I mean I'm with Garrett on this .. you need to find a way to deal with it because even if it is true, you've basically announced to the entire league, if the game is on the line and you have nothing to lose and it is 4th down, call out the cadence to get Costa to mess up.

So in other words, whether it is true or not really is irrelevant.

#reality

[dfense]

Stephen Bowen: Phil Costa is ‘lying’ about fake snap counts
By Mike Jones

Washington Redskins defensive end Stephen Bowen took offense to accusations made by the Dallas Cowboys that he and his fellow linemen simulated Tony Romo’s snap counts in an attempt to throw off Cowboys center Phil Costa during Monday night’s game.

Costa struggled with several of his snaps during the game and multiple times hiked the ball before Romo was ready. Romo was visibly upset during the game, giving the center repeated tongue-lashings.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/football-insider/post/stephen-bowen-phil-costa-is-lying-about-fake-snap-counts/2011/09/28/gIQALmhB5K_blog.html Shut up, traitor.

[Cowboys22]

Well, reports are that Dallas sent a tape to the league. Does anyone believe they would send a tape without first watching and listening to it and does anyone really think they would send it in if they was nothing on it. Logic says that if they sent a tape to the league, it clearly shows what was going on. Unless the league sweeps this under the rug which is highly likely, we will find out soon enough who is lying. If the league covers it up or ignores it in the media, I contend thats further proof that the skins were doing it. If there is no proof, the league will quickly come out and say there was no cheating.

[Reality]

Shut up, traitor.

Now Juke is a lot of things, but I wouldn't call him traitor .. angry, maybe .. psychopath, maybe .. but traitor? well .. mayb.. nah .. definitely not. :D

#reality

[Yakuza Rich]

When I was watching the game, there was one play, that was blatantly obvious that the RDE for the Redskins was calling out the cadence. I saw that when the game was live.

Re-watching it...and looking out for it, there were a couple of other obvious times. In fact, there was one play that Romo was trying to use it against the Redskins to get them to jump offsides. It looked like they were going to have Costa fake it like he was going to snap and then slowly snap the ball to Romo under center. But, the Skins didn't bite and Costa was flagged for an illegal snap.

I see Reality's point, although it's obviously going to be asked by the media when a guy screws up the snap 4 times in 1 game. By then, the media will probably get the idea that Romo was telling the refs about the Skins yelling out the cadence.

But, Costa has to work around it.







YR

[Chocolate Lab]

If - as Shanahan mentioned - the center is in fact mic'd, it should be pretty easy to get to the bottom of it.

And I for one look forward to that happening and getting a definitive word on the matter.

Yeah, what is this about the center being mic'd? I've never heard this before. Mic'd for whom? NFL Films? The league?

[stasheroo]

Not take the homer side here .. but since Costa was mic'ed, don't you think he would have considered that fact before claiming that the other side was calling out the cadence?

I mean I'm with Garrett on this .. you need to find a way to deal with it because even if it is true, you've basically announced to the entire league, if the game is on the line and you have nothing to lose and it is 4th down, call out the cadence to get Costa to mess up.

So in other words, whether it is true or not really is irrelevant.

#reality

I don't think it's irrelevant at all.

If it is true, then the Redskins were cheating and the refs weren't doing their jobs - both of which should be cleaned up.

And if it wasn't true, our new center really needs to get his 'act' together.

[Hostile]

I don't think it's irrelevant at all.

If it is true, then the Redskins were cheating and the refs weren't doing their jobs - both of which should be cleaned up.

And if it wasn't true, our new center really needs to get his 'act' together.Echo this.

[StarHead69]

Whether they were cheating or not, Costa gets the blame for crazy snaps #2,#3,and #4.

Gurode used to do that and now Costa. Maybe I'm not watching enough football on tv (my wife would disagree :eek: ), but I cannot remember seeing this happen to other teams. It seems like Hudson Houck, or John Garrett have to accept some accountability here as well. Wild Snaps are either a coaching issue, or a serious lack of focus by the player. IMO it doesn't matter how well you block if you are going to put the ball on the ground (lost yardage or a turnover) several times a game. It's a great way to get your QB killed as well.

[Phrozen Phil]

hopefully a full week (albeit shortened) will help Costa and the receivers. These are young guys, hopefully, coachable guys.

[JohnsKey19]

I actually believe Bowen.

[Manwiththeplan]

you've basically announced to the entire league, if the game is on the line and you have nothing to lose and it is 4th down, call out the cadence to get Costa to mess up.

that's actually a situation where the defense has a lot to lose :p:

would give the team on 4th down, an auto 1rst +15 yards, if you get caught

[adbutcher]

I actually believe Bowen.

Of course you do, I mean why would he lie?:rolleyes:

[DallasGirl50]

I'm a Cowboys fan...I choose to believe our coach, QB & center over somebody else. I simply cannot fathom why they would bother the league over something like this unless they believed it had merit. And wasn't Shanny known for having teams in Denver that used illegal blocks on the OL? I am asking about that..seems I read once that his OL players were dirty..out to hurt.

[newlander]

I actually believe Bowen.


.....100% and have from the get go. Just a PATHETIC attempt by Red and Tony to cover for this kid...somewhat noble but definately pathetic. He's brutal and is gonna get Romo hurt: probably as early as this Sunday.:bang2:

[urface59]

.....100% and have from the get go. Just a PATHETIC attempt by Red and Tony to cover for this kid...somewhat noble but definately pathetic. He's brutal and is gonna get Romo hurt: probably as early as this Sunday.:bang2:

over react much?

[BHendri5]

Bowen's lying

[Skin]

.....100% and have from the get go. Just a PATHETIC attempt by Red and Tony to cover for this kid...somewhat noble but definately pathetic. He's brutal and is gonna get Romo hurt: probably as early as this Sunday.:bang2:

I have to believe that the other offensive linemen have ears too. I can't believe they would allow a fellow linemen to lie about this, because they'd be covering for him as well, right?

I think it happened, but I also believe the Cowboys failed to deal with it effectively during the game. If was happening and the refs weren't dealing with it, the coaches and players need to change things up.

One more thing, I don't know him personally, but I have a hard time believing that Jason Garrett would put his reputation on the line with the league and in the media if he believed Costa was lying.

[RoyTheHammer]

When I was watching the game, there was one play, that was blatantly obvious that the RDE for the Redskins was calling out the cadence. I saw that when the game was live.

Re-watching it...and looking out for it, there were a couple of other obvious times. In fact, there was one play that Romo was trying to use it against the Redskins to get them to jump offsides. It looked like they were going to have Costa fake it like he was going to snap and then slowly snap the ball to Romo under center. But, the Skins didn't bite and Costa was flagged for an illegal snap.

I see Reality's point, although it's obviously going to be asked by the media when a guy screws up the snap 4 times in 1 game. By then, the media will probably get the idea that Romo was telling the refs about the Skins yelling out the cadence.

But, Costa has to work around it.









YR


You can't fake a snap in the NFL.. and its not Costa's problem if they actually were doing it. IMO, the coaches need to step up there and make an adjustment, go to a silent count, whatever.. just get it taken care of and stop whining about what the defense was doing.

[Hostile]

over react much?
http://www.smallworldbeauty.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/haterade.gif

:grin:

[DallasGirl50]

It makes no sense for Tony or Jason to lie...it's not as though we've had centers in the past who haven't played poorly. I can't recollect them lying to the league to cover those bad performances. Big deal if the guy had a bad game. You coach him up & hope he improves. Romo played last Monday with some serious health issues & earned some major respect leaguewide by doing so. So he's going to lie about a center's play to the league to spare what? His feelings? I am not buying that...

[JohnsKey19]

Of course you do, I mean why would he lie?:rolleyes:

I could be wrong. I know more about Bowen personally than i do Costa. Bowen could've easily declined comment publicly. He said he didn't do it and seems pretty adamant about it. Friends of Bowen's who are currently Cowboys believe him. It could've been someone else on the Skins D.

[ABQCOWBOY]

Doesn't matter if he's lying or not. This happens in the NFL and if you can't learn to over come this, then you can't start in the NFL. It's really as simple as that. This has to get fixed and I mean now. Doesn't matter who is barking calls on the other side. Figure it out or lets get the next guy ready. I like Costa. He's one of the guys I'm really pulling for to make it but we can't have this.

[MichaelWinicki]

I'm not sure why Garrett and other members of the Cowboys would go to such an extent to "cover" it up.

If there weren't any shenanigans involved by the Redskins, all Garrett would have needed to say was, "It was a communication problem between Romo and Costa" and that would have been it. No sense lying about it in order to make Costa look better.

[Chocolate Lab]

Doesn't matter if he's lying or not. This happens in the NFL and if you can't learn to over come this, then you can't start in the NFL. It's really as simple as that. This has to get fixed and I mean now. Doesn't matter who is barking calls on the other side. Figure it out or lets get the next guy ready. I like Costa. He's one of the guys I'm really pulling for to make it but we can't have this.

:hammer:

[Hostile]

http://www.dallascowboys.com/multimedia/multimedia_center.cfm?id=B6BC2BEB-E5B1-03D4-F2343DD1BE7521B8

I love Garrett's response to the media about this issue.

It's at about the 8:40 minute mark and he says it has always been around in football. He makes me so proud. There are no excuses allowed.

[DallasGirl50]

I still play armchair QB with some of Jason's decisions (dumb me..he's forgotten more football than I will ever know) but I love his demeanor...the way the team has responded to him.

[proline]

that's actually a situation where the defense has a lot to lose :p:

would give the team on 4th down, an auto 1rst +15 yards, if you get caught

Love your pic and sig :)

[aleator]

Yeah, what is this about the center being mic'd? I've never heard this before. Mic'd for whom? NFL Films? The league?
This is what's not believable: that they would Mic a young center over Dez, Witten, or Romo (just imagine the grunts and gasps of pain as he throws with broken ribs.... Ratings!)

[Risen Star]

So in other words, whether it is true or not really is irrelevant.

#reality

I think it's very relevant. Because if it isn't true, then Costa has other issues besides teams baiting him into mistakes.

A little hard to correct the problem until you know what exactly is the problem.

[gimmesix]

I could be wrong. I know more about Bowen personally than i do Costa. Bowen could've easily declined comment publicly. He said he didn't do it and seems pretty adamant about it. Friends of Bowen's who are currently Cowboys believe him. It could've been someone else on the Skins D.

OK, I can agree with you here. It might not have been Bowen that did it.

BUT the Redskins have every reason in the world to deny it if they did it ... because it is illegal.

I think it's pretty clear that at some point one of their players did it. On the play where Costa moved the ball then snapped it to Romo. Romo was adamantly shouting that the Redskins caused that.

I think after they saw they could get away with it, they probably did it again. But it's possible that was the only time and it rattled Costa.

When Romo was asked about it immediately after the game, he didn't hesitate in saying that Costa said they were calling the count. In fact, he said it very matter-of-factly, not like someone who was looking for an excuse.

[BraveHeartFan]

For some reason I'm inclined to believe Bowen because, even as bad as the ref job was on monday night, I'm having a hard time believing they were continuing to call out the cadence like that and weren't getting caught and flagged for it.

[EGG]

For some reason I'm inclined to believe Bowen because, even as bad as the ref job was on monday night, I'm having a hard time believing they were continuing to call out the cadence like that and weren't getting caught and flagged for it.

So, for some inexplicable reason an NFL center totally spaced out how to recognize when his QB wanted the ball,,,, 5 times,,, after being yelled at after each time and visiting the sidelines and talking to the coaches and the QB...?

No freaking way.

The ump is no longer near the LOS to police that kind of thing, something they need to remedy.

[DanteEXT]

http://espn.go.com/dallas/nfl/story/_/id/7038987/nfl-issues-reminder-d-mimic-cadence

So if the league sends out a memo to all the teams not to mimic the offensive cadence, does that validate the Cowboys argument?

[erod]

Why didn't our other four lineman jump?

And how do you fall for that FOUR times in one game?