Hey Texas A&M Fans question for you

[Kangaroo]

Does Sherman make it another year ? This was suppose to be their turn to shine in the Big12 before bolting to the SEC and having two back to back Epic collapses by the team.

I was just wondering what the Almuni rumblings are like and if he will be out after this year.

[The30YardSlant]

He's safe as long as he wins 8 or 9 games. A 7-5, 6-6 type year would put him on the hot seat big time. Anything less and he probably gets canned.

The problem isnt that he's a bad coach, he has proven he is capable of developing a winning gameplan, beat two top 10 teams last year and has dominated two top 15 teams for entire halves this year. For whatever reason though, he doesnt seem to adjust to the other team's adjustments. We beat OU and Nebraska last year because Pelini and Stoops are stubborn coaches who believe in their system and don't alter the plan, and Sherman can beat people like that. Bobby Petrino is not that kind of coach, and we saw the result.

[Doomsday101]

Does Sherman make it another year ? This was suppose to be their turn to shine in the Big12 before bolting to the SEC and having two back to back Epic collapses by the team.

I was just wondering what the Almuni rumblings are like and if he will be out after this year.

Not an A&M alumni nor even a big fan but I will say Mike Sherman is the best thing that has happened to Texas A&M in a while and has helped get program back on course and respectability

[Cythim]

Not an A&M alumni nor even a big fan but I will say Mike Sherman is the best thing that has happened to Texas A&M in a while and has helped get program back on course and respectability

I completely agree. I think he could help himself by bringing on an offensive coordinator, but I haven't been this excited about watching the Aggies since Slocum was canned. I am far removed from the alumni base, so I don't know what rumblings may be going on, but I hope he can stick around for a while.

[TheCoolFan]

No way they fire him after this season. You don't want to move to the SEC with a brand new coach and uncertainty, plus all the recruits they could possibly lose.

Sherman is a good recruiter. His in-game coaching is horrible though. An offensive coordinator is definitely a must (but of course, like Garrett, once you get that power in your hands, it's hard to give it up). The college game is so busy that you need to devote your full attention to overseeing the team and let your offensive coordinator and defensive coordinator spend their time devising the gameplan.

Out of all the successful programs in the country, I don't know of any coaches that pull double duty and serve as coordinators too. It may work for some teams in the NFL, which is what Sherman is used to but it's just too much to handle in college.

[trickblue]

Sherman is a fine coach... as he was in Green Bay...

His problem is not finishing games...

[Aikbach]

Sherman is a fine coach and a decent man, the Aggie problem is not Coach Sherman, it is the culture of the school's expectations when pitted against reality that undoes them. It is a program that fields the talent and abilities of Mississippi State but has it in their mind they are on par with and should command the respect of Oklahoma.

A&M isn't simply ambitious, they're foolhardy about what they can actually achieve but enter games with the bravado of a crown wearer, that folly is ingrained in the fanbase and culture of it all, I doubt Sherman can exercise the obnoxiousness that ultimately works as an intangible against them and deflates them when they can't meet their own self aggrandized press clippings.

[The30YardSlant]

Sherman is a fine coach and a decent man, the Aggie problem is not Coach Sherman, it is the culture of the school's expectations when pitted against reality that undoes them. It is a program that fields the talent and abilities of Mississippi State but has it in their mind they are on par with and should command the respect of Oklahoma.

A&M isn't simply ambitious, they're foolhardy about what they can actually achieve but enter games with the bravado of a crown wearer, that folly is ingrained in the fanbase and culture of it all, I doubt Sherman can exercise the obnoxiousness that ultimately works as an intangible against them and deflates them when they can't meet their own self aggrandized press clippings.

A&M has fielded elite talent in the lifetime of every poster on this site. No reason we can't expect to one day return to being a staple in the top 10-15 every year.

Nice Baylorfans talking points, though.

[Aikbach]

A&M has fielded elite talent in the lifetime of every poster on this site. No reason we can't expect to one day return to being a staple in the top 10-15 every year.

Nice Baylorfans talking points, though.
Let's see Dat Nguyen in 1999 was a solid starter but not 'elite", since then what, Sammy Davis? Lots of failed pros and backups and players hyped by the Aggie faithful to be Heisman candidates.

Before Nguyen there were royal busts like Quinten Coryatt to speak of or unfortunate injuries to the once solid Kevin Smith.

By elite i assume you must mean the great Bucky Richardson at quarterback? Or the runningback phenomenon called Leeland McElroy.

Bottomline A&M is a fine school, but it needs a lesson or two in humility, gracious sportsmanship and dialing down the homer obnoxiousness.

A program that's last bowl victory was the Galleryfurtiture.com bowl in the decrepit Astrodome at the end of the last century isn't in much position to condescend against anyone about any supposed talking points.

Point out which ones are in error and I'll gladly retract them.

[The30YardSlant]

Let's see Dat Nguyen in 1999 was a solid starter but not 'elite", since then what, Sammy Davis? Lots of failed pros and backups and players hyped by the Aggie faithful to be Heisman candidates.

Dat Nguyen was a two-time all-american, won the Lombardi and Bednarik awards, finished fourth all-time in the NCAA in tackles and was first-team all-pro with the Cowboys. He is one of the most decorated linebackers in college football history.

And what does pro success have anything to do with anything? Tommy Frazier was one of the great college football players of all-time, are you prepared to say he and the endless list of other greats who didnt do anything in the NFL werent talented?

Before Nguyen there were royal busts like Quinten Coryatt to speak of or unfortunate injuries to the once solid Kevin Smith.

By elite i assume you must mean the great Bucky Richardson at quarterback? Or the runningback phenomenon called Leeland McElroy.

Bottomline A&M is a fine school, but it needs a lesson or two in humility, gracious sportsmanship and dialing down the homer obnoxiousness.

A program that's last bowl victory was the Galleryfurtiture.com bowl in the decrepit Astrodome at the end of the last century isn't in much position to condescend against anyone about any supposed talking points.

Point out which ones are in error and I'll gladly retract them.

You have a seriously warped sense of talent. A&M fielded five straight national top 5 defenses from 1990 to 1994, won more conference titles from 1985 to 1999 than anyone not named Nebraska and finished ranked in 13 of 15 years. We had great runs in the late 70s and throughout the 80s and 90s, and before that we were a male only military school with an athletic budget one-tenth the size of Texas'. Since 1970 we have the eleventh most wins of any current FCS school and are nineteeth all-time even with our serious disadvantage over the first 80 years of our existence.

Are we OU or Texas? No, but we have the resources, the fanbase, the recruiting base and, contrary to your belief, the precedent to believe we will be a great program again someday.

[Aikbach]

Dat Nguyen was a two-time all-american, won the Lombardi and Bednarik awards, finished fourth all-time in the NCAA in tackles and was first-team all-pro with the Cowboys. He is one of the most decorated linebackers in college football history.

And what does pro success have anything to do with anything? Tommy Frazier was one of the great college football players of all-time, are you prepared to say he and the endless list of other greats who didnt do anything in the NFL werent talented?



You have a seriously warped sense of talent. A&M fielded five straight national top 5 defenses from 1990 to 1994, won more conference titles from 1985 to 1999 than anyone not named Nebraska and finished ranked in 13 of 15 years. We had great runs in the late 70s and throughout the 80s and 90s, and before that we were a male only military school with an athletic budget one-tenth the size of Texas'. Since 1970 we have the eleventh most wins of any current FCS school and are nineteeth all-time even with our serious disadvantage over the first 80 years of our existence.

Are we OU or Texas? No, but we have the resources, the fanbase, the recruiting base and, contrary to your belief, the precedent to believe we will be a great program again someday.You also have the black spot of Jackie Sherrill cheating in those 80s clubs (ironically he went to Miss. St later), but let's not get that in the way of the bravado, afterall you were reminiscing about the 70s, 80s and early 90s.

If that's the standard then i could point to top ten and 25 Baylor teams in that era too, and if you want to talk about a budget miniscule compared to the competition, well you simply don't impress me then. But i won't, you're too busy being ornery, which is really the point, thanks for making it.

[The30YardSlant]

You also have the black spot of Jackie Sherrill cheating in those 80s clubs (ironically he went to Miss. St later), but let's not get that in the way of the bravado, afterall you were reminiscing about the 70s, 80s and early 90s.

Everyone was cheating in the 1980s. Every single SWC program except Rice was on probation at least once from 1978 to 1990. A&M, Texas, SMU, Baylor, UH and Tech all had at least two major or minor violations.

And speaking of bravado, this is big talk from a fan of a program that would give anything to have one single season like A&M's 2010 campaign. Even in our worst decade in the modern era, A&M has still had three years that rival some of Baylor's best years ever. Baylor has won three conference titles since the 20s (and one was a six way tie in 1994 when undefeated A&M was ineligible for the title), meanwhile A&M has won 8 conference titles since 1985 alone.

If that's the standard then i could point to top ten and 25 Baylor teams in that era too, and if you want to talk about a budget miniscule compared to the competition, well you simply don't impress me then. But i won't, you're too busy being ornery, which is really the point, thanks for making it.

No you can't. Baylor hasnt finished ranked since the 80s, and has finished in the top 25 just six times in the history of the AP poll.

[Aikbach]

Everyone was cheating in the 1980s. Every single SWC program except Rice was on probation at least once from 1978 to 1990. A&M, Texas, SMU, Baylor, UH and Tech all had at least two major or minor violations.

And speaking of bravado, this is big talk from a fan of a program that would give anything to have one single season like A&M's 2010 campaign. Even in our worst decade in the modern era, A&M has still had three years that rival some of Baylor's best years ever. Baylor has won three conference titles since the 20s (and one was a six way tie in 1994 when undefeated A&M was ineligible for the title), meanwhile A&M has won 8 conference titles since 1985 alone.



No you can't. Baylor hasnt finished ranked since the 80s, and has finished in the top 25 just six times in the history of the AP poll.See you are so petty your projecting is hysterical. Cheating is ok if it's working is your thesis, no dishonor.

Hysterical that you want moral victories for funding and overcoming odds but don't want to grant that benefit to even smaller programs that perform even more impressive feats with less considering their resources.

Just goes to show what a chicken hawk A&M is, and that was the point and that is what plagues them, they think they're a lion and not a lobotomized house cat.

Keep providing the whining, it's humorous.

Cheers

[The30YardSlant]

See you are so petty your projecting is hysterical. Cheating is ok if it's working is your thesis, no dishonor.

Hysterical that you want moral victories for funding and overcoming odds but don't want to grant that benefit to even smaller programs that perform even more impressive feats with less considering their resources.

Just goes to show what a chicken hawk A&M is, and that was the point and that is what plagues them, they think they're a lion and not a lobotomized house cat.

Keep providing the whining, it's humorous.

Cheers

What impressive feats? Winning a conference road game every ten years?

[Cythim]

Sherman is a fine coach and a decent man, the Aggie problem is not Coach Sherman, it is the culture of the school's expectations when pitted against reality that undoes them. It is a program that fields the talent and abilities of Mississippi State but has it in their mind they are on par with and should command the respect of Oklahoma.

A&M isn't simply ambitious, they're foolhardy about what they can actually achieve but enter games with the bravado of a crown wearer, that folly is ingrained in the fanbase and culture of it all, I doubt Sherman can exercise the obnoxiousness that ultimately works as an intangible against them and deflates them when they can't meet their own self aggrandized press clippings.

Is that how you explain A&M averaging a 20th ranked recruiting class over the last decade? We had a coaching problem, but we got rid of him and replaced him with someone who can do much better. I remember you ragging on Sherman last year saying he wasn't the answer but you hoped he would stay in College Station for a long time.

Recruiting Class Rank:

2011 - A&M 27 MissSt 44
2010 - A&M 17 MissSt 38
2009 - A&M 22 MissSt 25
2008 - A&M 16 MissSt 44
2007 - A&M 43 MissSt 39
2006 - A&M 26 MissSt 46
2005 - A&M 8 MissSt 33
2004 - A&M 13 MissSt UNR
2003 - A&M 10 MissSt 9
2002 - A&M 17 MissSt 23
Avg - A&M 20 MissSt 40

[Aikbach]

Is that how you explain A&M averaging a 20th ranked recruiting class over the last decade? We had a coaching problem, but we got rid of him and replaced him with someone who can do much better. I remember you ragging on Sherman last year saying he wasn't the answer but you hoped he would stay in College Station for a long time.

Recruiting Class Rank:

2011 - A&M 27 MissSt 44
2010 - A&M 17 MissSt 38
2009 - A&M 22 MissSt 25
2008 - A&M 16 MissSt 44
2007 - A&M 43 MissSt 39
2006 - A&M 26 MissSt 46
2005 - A&M 8 MissSt 33
2004 - A&M 13 MissSt UNR
2003 - A&M 10 MissSt 9
2002 - A&M 17 MissSt 23
Avg - A&M 20 MissSt 40How cute, you took the time to think this makes a point, fact is the analogy stands, Mississippi State plays more ranked teams than A&M did in that time frame and with less whiny political clout that A&M bounces about.

Ultimately talking sense to Aggies is pointless, you guys need hugs, great big hugs and special olympic medals, perhaps that's a conference where you can feel like a winner and not get hurt when someone points out you're not so special as you think you are.

Afterall your bosom buddy compadre just spent long winded posts gabbing about how triumphant A&M's miniscule funded program has done wonders, I guarantee you they have more cash than Miss St so really your apples and oranges attempt at redeeming a not so incredulous comparison is void of the nuances of the differing programs and schedules; another irony as your compadre also spent gabs of air begging one not to be simplistic with approaching A&M's "successes". But here you are trying to think a non contextualized group of numbers as a case closed home run that A&M wasn't anything more than the Miss State of the Big 12.

I wanna show you a really interesting stat though, Aggy: Goose Egg SEC: 7 in the 21st Century, here you come, roarrrrr!

PS you have an attitude problem that causes a coaching problem, Slocum wasn't good enough for you guys after he gave respectability back from the cheating days of Sherrill, Francione was supposed to be a savior stolen from Alabama, Sherman is now supposed to win the Big 12 and roar into the SEC, you aren't realistic with the good guys / hire bozos in reaction to them not meeting unreasonable demands and over estimated talent levels.

[Cythim]

How cute, you took the time to think this makes a point, fact is the analogy stands, Mississippi State plays more ranked teams than A&M did in that time frame and with less whiny political clout that A&M bounces about.

Ultimately talking sense to Aggies is pointless, you guys need hugs, great big hugs and special olympic medals, perhaps that's a conference where you can feel like a winner and not get hurt when someone points out you're not so special as you think you are.

Afterall your bosom buddy compadre just spent long winded posts gabbing about how triumphant A&M's miniscule funded program has done wonders, I guarantee you they have more cash than Miss St so really your apples and oranges attempt at redeeming a not so incredulous comparison is void of the nuances of the differing programs and schedules; another irony as your compadre also spent gabs of air begging one not to be simplistic with approaching A&M's "successes". But here you are trying to think a non contextualized group of numbers as a case closed home run that A&M wasn't anything more than the Miss State of the Big 12.

I wanna show you a really interesting stat though, Aggy: Goose Egg SEC: 7 in the 21st Century, here you come, roarrrrr!

PS you have an attitude problem that causes a coaching problem, Slocum wasn't good enough for you guys after he gave respectability back from the cheating days of Sherrill, Francione was supposed to be a savior stolen from Alabama, Sherman is now supposed to win the Big 12 and roar into the SEC, you aren't realistic with the good guys / hire bozos in reaction to them not meeting unreasonable demands and over estimated talent levels.

That is a lovely rant but it has nothing to do with what you originally stated and I responded to. You said TAMU fields the talent and ability of Miss State and I proved it wrong with recruiting class rankings. Now you want to revise it with TAMU being the Big 12 equivalent of Miss State but that argument is intellectually dishonest. Over the last 15 years TAMU has had 10 winning seasons while Miss State has had 5. Ole Miss or Arkansas would be better comparisons.

Your position is clearly biased against TAMU as you've clearly been on a vendetta against the university. I've talked to several fans of the Pac-12 (whose only bias is against the formation of a Pac-16) and their view is much closer to mine (comparing to Arkansas or Ole Miss) than yours. You should just give up the discussion as you clearly cannot keep an objective view on the topic.

[Aikbach]

That is a lovely rant but it has nothing to do with what you originally stated and I responded to. You said TAMU fields the talent and ability of Miss State and I proved it wrong with recruiting class rankings. Now you want to revise it with TAMU being the Big 12 equivalent of Miss State but that argument is intellectually dishonest. Over the last 15 years TAMU has had 10 winning seasons while Miss State has had 5. Ole Miss or Arkansas would be better comparisons.

Your position is clearly biased against TAMU as you've clearly been on a vendetta against the university. I've talked to several fans of the Pac-12 (whose only bias is against the formation of a Pac-16) and their view is much closer to mine (comparing to Arkansas or Ole Miss) than yours. You should just give up the discussion as you clearly cannot keep an objective view on the topic.Keep whining, one thing you're good at apparently, way too easy to get under your skin. Happens when you critique a cult.

[Cythim]

Keep whining, one thing you're good at apparently, way too easy to get under your skin. Happens when you critique a cult.

:laugh2:

Slinging mud when you get burned with the truth will not win you any fans.

[Aikbach]

:laugh2:

Slinging mud when you get burned with the truth will not win you any fans.
You sure do posture a lot but say little, go ahead and have the last childish word, aggies like to pretend they have moral victories even when they get beat down.
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[Cythim]

You sure do posture a lot but say little, go ahead and have the last childish word, aggies like to pretend they have moral victories even when they get beat down.
http://www.gifsforum.com/images/gif/lol/grand/freak_lol_gif.gif

You pretend to be the bigger person yet continue with the personal attacks and childish images. Do you not see the irony in your own posting?

[Aikbach]

You pretend to be the bigger person yet continue with the personal attacks and childish images. Do you not see the irony in your own posting?Um, take a look around this forum and look at what a mockery A&M is to everyone, you're a laughing stock and you're apparently a run of the mill whiner, grow up already, sheesh. you're not respected and you keep proving why.

I don't think you know the definition of the word irony.

[The30YardSlant]

Um, take a look around this forum and look at what a mockery A&M is to everyone, you're a laughing stock and you're apparently a run of the mill whiner, grow up already, sheesh. you're not respected and you keep proving why.

I don't think you know the definition of the word irony.

This board is full of Texas fans. If the roles were reversed the sentiments would still be the same, everyone would be siding with Texas on the issue. It's the nature of the beast. This isnt an issue of circumstance, it's an issue of loyalty. Regardless of the circumstances, just about everyone here would be siding with Texas.

[Aikbach]

This board is full of Texas fans. If the roles were reversed the sentiments would still be the same, everyone would be siding with Texas on the issue. It's the nature of the beast. This isnt an issue of circumstance, it's an issue of loyalty. Regardless of the circumstances, just about everyone here would be siding with Texas.Yes you're clearly being bullied.:rolleyes: ESPN is doing it, Sports illustrated is doing it, bloggers are doing it, Texas is doing it, Baylor is doing it, Tech is doing it, OU is doing it, the rest of the Big 12 is doing it, outside observers are doing it, SEC fans are doing it, just a bunch of meanies one and all.

[The30YardSlant]

Yes you're clearly being bullied.:rolleyes: ESPN is doing it, Sports illustrated is doing it, bloggers are doing it, Texas is doing it, Baylor is doing it, Tech is doing it, OU is doing it, the rest of the Big 12 is doing it, outside observers are doing it, SEC fans are doing it, just a bunch of meanies one and all.

Who said anything about bullying? I never said it came as a shock or anything, it's just the way it is. The fact that you can't acknowledge it is the bigger issue here. You're bitter that Baylor has absolutely no say in any of this and has no power over where they ultimately end up and A&M was able to pave our own path, regardless of whether or not you agree with it. It's absolutely KILLING you and it shows.

[Aikbach]

Who said anything about bullying? I never said it came as a shock or anything, it's just the way it is. The fact that you can't acknowledge it is the bigger issue here. You're bitter that Baylor has absolutely no say in any of this and has no power over where they ultimately end up and A&M was able to pave our own path, regardless of whether or not you agree with it. It's absolutely KILLING you and it shows.No, your self importance is why it's fun to goad you, you overreact so as if it's persecution, as if you are martyrs for a cause instead of liars that just couldn't fess up and say you wanted to try something else, you tried to cloak your departure in faux nobility, so it's fun to needle you with the reality that is an absolute farce.

I couldn't care less the fate of A&M, I'm appreciative of having a distance from their delusional and myopic fanbase, they don't like to hear the fact they're perceived that way.

But no amount of protest changes the fact people just don't like A&M, it's not envy, it's not "powerlessness", it's the fact you are simply disliked universally by anyone ever associated with the school, end of story really.

[The30YardSlant]

No, your self importance is why it's fun to goad you, you overreact so as if it's persecution, as if you are martyrs for a cause instead of liars that just couldn't fess up and say you wanted to try something else, you tried to cloak your departure in faux nobility, so it's fun to needle you with the reality that is an absolute farce.

I couldn't care less the fate of A&M, I'm appreciative of having a distance from their delusional and myopic fanbase, they don't like to hear the fact they're perceived that way.

But no amount of protest changes the fact people just don't like A&M, it's not envy, it's "powerlessness", it's the fact you are simply disliked universally by anyone ever associated with the school, end of story really.

So can you sit here with a straight face and tell me that if the roles were reversed all the indignant Texas fans on this board would be siding with A&M and admonishing their own program?

[Aikbach]

So can you sit here with a straight face and tell me that if the roles were reversed all the indignant Texas fans on this board would be siding with A&M and admonishing their own program?The rolls were reversed? Texas didn't lie, A&M did, rhetorical fallacies won't let you squirm out of that reality, A&M LIED, period. Nor does the UT fanbase garner bad blood for obnoxiousness.

[The30YardSlant]

The rolls were reversed? Texas didn't lie, A&M did, rhetorical fallacies won't let you squirm out of that reality, A&M LIED, period. Nor does the UT fanbase garner bad blood for obnoxiousness.

As I thought. You know who butters your bread.

[Aikbach]

As I thought. You know who butters your bread.No, i just live in reality, where honesty and integrity and sportsmanship count a little for something, where I don't justify cheating by saying "Everyone was doing it" where I don't ignore facts and make up excuses for the fact a promise was made "An Aggie's word is their bond" and then bolt after simultaneously plotting with a public pledge as a veneer.

That is the Aggie way, blame everything on the outside, especially UT, as you're doing here now, no accountability for your own school's lack of integrity in their wheeling and dealing.

And thus after every loss opposing fans mock you with chants of support for whatever conference it is that you fell to, surely you don't think UT controls the SEC just as you seem to think they do the Big 12, yet there they are chanting "SEC" and not as a sign of support but as acknowledgement you don't belong.

[BrAinPaiNt]

Oddly enough..for those that really don't care or follow any of the Teams in texas...most of you sound like agenda driven, extremely biased and rude individuals arguing over stuff...not just those from ATM.

Seems like only one or two of you tend to be level headed and tend to TRY to be objective.

It's kind of funny for someone bashing ATM to try and lecture others on being easy to goad, childish and self important...when they fit the same description in these arguments.

Just an outsiders observation.:cool:

From an outsiders perspective it DOES seem like ATM has a little brother complex. It's fans do seem to have a cult like way about them (although to be fair most schools are like that...after all fan is short for fanatic). With that said it also seems like Texas and it's fans do exude we are better than all of you and we can do what we want attitude.

To that end...Texas does what it can to make sure it is doing what is Best for it's school. ATM is now doing what thinks is best for it's school.

I can't blame Texas for wanting the LHN. I can't blame ATM for wanting to go to the SEC. They are only doing what they think is best to make them better.

[The30YardSlant]

No, i just live in reality, where honesty and integrity and sportsmanship count a little for something, where I don't justify cheating by saying "Everyone was doing it" where I don't ignore facts and make up excuses for the fact a promise was made "An Aggie's word is their bond" and then bolt after simultaneously plotting with a public pledge as a veneer.

That is the Aggie way, blame everything on the outside, especially UT, as you're doing here now, no accountability for your own school's lack of integrity in their wheeling and dealing.

And thus after every loss opposing fans mock you with chants of support for whatever conference it is that you fell to, surely you don't think UT controls the SEC just as you seem to think they do the Big 12, yet there they are chanting "SEC" and not as a sign of support but as acknowledgement you don't belong.

Save your breath. After this...

The rolls were reversed? Texas didn't lie, A&M did, rhetorical fallacies won't let you squirm out of that reality, A&M LIED, period. Nor does the UT fanbase garner bad blood for obnoxiousness.


There is no point is discussing this issue with you anymore. You clearly have no ability to objectively look at the situation and apply a double standard when comparing the program that controls your fate and the one that doesnt. I can honestly sit here and say I wouldnt blame Texas for leaving if the roles were reversed, and you cannot put forth the same objectivity. Why? Because desperate times do not allow for such things.

[Aikbach]

Save your breath. After this...



There is no point is discussing this issue with you anymore. You clearly have no ability to objectively look at the situation and apply a double standard when comparing the program that controls your fate and the one that doesnt. I can honestly sit here and say I wouldnt blame Texas for leaving if the roles were reversed, and you cannot put forth the same objectivity. Why? Because desperate times do not allow for such things.Heed you own advice, the newspaper clippings haven't been empirically kind to your arguments, if you are the standard of "objectivity" then intellectual discourse is in trouble

[The30YardSlant]

Heed you own advice, the newspaper clippings haven't been empirically kind to your arguments, if you are the standard of "objectivity" then intellectual discourse is in trouble

As I thought. You know who butters your bread.


:starspin

[Aikbach]

:starspinYou need a hug.

[The30YardSlant]

You need a hug.

You need to tell Dodds to hurry up and finish, it's probably getting raw back there

[Aikbach]

You need to tell Dodds to hurry up and finish, it's probably getting raw back thereMust resist sheep jokes...

Speaking of raw, check out this Aggie joke that writes itself:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/07/22/texas-am-toilet-paper_n_655364.html :lmao2:

[Cythim]

Um, take a look around this forum and look at what a mockery A&M is to everyone, you're a laughing stock and you're apparently a run of the mill whiner, grow up already, sheesh. you're not respected and you keep proving why.

I don't think you know the definition of the word irony.

Are you done with the insults? I would like to get back to talking college sports if you do not mind.

[The30YardSlant]

Must resist sheep jokes...

Speaking of raw, check out this Aggie joke that writes itself:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/07/22/texas-am-toilet-paper_n_655364.html :lmao2:

I wouldnt admit to reading the Huffington Post if I were you

[Sam I Am]

Oddly enough..for those that really don't care or follow any of the Teams in texas...most of you sound like agenda driven, extremely biased and rude individuals arguing over stuff...not just those from ATM.

Seems like only one or two of you tend to be level headed and tend to TRY to be objective.

It's kind of funny for someone bashing ATM to try and lecture others on being easy to goad, childish and self important...when they fit the same description in these arguments.

Just an outsiders observation.:cool:

From an outsiders perspective it DOES seem like ATM has a little brother complex. It's fans do seem to have a cult like way about them (although to be fair most schools are like that...after all fan is short for fanatic). With that said it also seems like Texas and it's fans do exude we are better than all of you and we can do what we want attitude.

To that end...Texas does what it can to make sure it is doing what is Best for it's school. ATM is now doing what thinks is best for it's school.

I can't blame Texas for wanting the LHN. I can't blame ATM for wanting to go to the SEC. They are only doing what they think is best to make them better.

If you're not contributing to the argument, get the hell out! :laugh2:

[BrAinPaiNt]

If you're not contributing to the argument, get the hell out! :laugh2:

It's my way of saying...both sides sound like self serving blowhards accusing the other of the same things.

Divide...Conquer

<evil laugh>

[Aikbach]

Are you done with the insults? I would like to get back to talking college sports if you do not mind.
But we were talking about the insult to college sports that is A&M, it was perfectly pertinent.:D

[Aikbach]

I wouldnt admit to reading the Huffington Post if I were youAnd I wouldn't admit to going to A&M if I were you, what happened to the Charmin, did it all get used printing diplomas?:D