Little Ball of Hate strikes again: Jones' criticism of coach again crosses line

[DWhite Fan]

JFE thinks Jerry over stepped his bounds:

"Cowboys owner Jerry Jones embarrassed his first-year coach Jason Garrett on Sunday. And we simply giggled at the octogenarian who did the verbal equivalent of 49ers coach Jim Harbaugh …"

http://www.foxsportssouthwest.com/10/18/11/Jones-criticism-of-coach-again-crosses-l/landing_cowboys.html?blockID=584908&feedID=3742

[Beast_from_East]

JFE thinks Jerry over stepped his bounds:

"Cowboys owner Jerry Jones embarrassed his first-year coach Jason Garrett on Sunday. And we simply giggled at the octogenarian who did the verbal equivalent of 49ers coach Jim Harbaugh …"

http://www.foxsportssouthwest.com/10/18/11/Jones-criticism-of-coach-again-crosses-l/landing_cowboys.html?blockID=584908&feedID=3742

But JFE, Garrett did blow the game. So what do you want the man to do, lie about it? Everybody and their freaking Grandmother knew Garrett lost his balls and blew the game. Jerry was just being Captain Obvious here.


Jerry should have kicked the Boy Wonder right in the nads after the game and said "what the hell was that".

[dwarecwby311]

But JFE, Garrett did blow the game. So what do you want the man to do, lie about it? Everybody and their freaking Grandmother knew Garrett lost his balls and blew the game. Jerry was just being Captain Obvious here.


Jerry should have kicked the Boy Wonder right in the nads after the game and said "what the hell was that".



the mental image of that actually happening is hilarious

[5Stars]

That was complete trash...it was just HER interpretation of what Jerry was saying, not WHAT he was saying.

Plus, she's is one nasty looking woman!
:eek:

[bbgun]

So she's basically echoing what Jerry himself already admitted. How dare she. :rolleyes:

[rcaldw]

I'm sure I'll be in the minority, but as I already stated in a thread earlier in the week, I think she is right. Jerry was out of bounds on this and it won't help his team. Hopefully we start winning with this Sunday and it becomes a moot point and a non-issue.

[2233boys]

But JFE, Garrett did blow the game. So what do you want the man to do, lie about it? Everybody and their freaking Grandmother knew Garrett lost his balls and blew the game. Jerry was just being Captain Obvious here.


Jerry should have kicked the Boy Wonder right in the nads after the game and said "what the hell was that".

How about shut the **** up for a change. I wish JJ would just go away.

[5Stars]

So she's basically echoing what Jerry himself already admitted. How dare she. :rolleyes:

Tongue in cheek, bro.

Jerry does say stupid things, and he needs to stop it. But, he was right in what he did say...Garrett did not do a good job of game management at that point.

Garrett should have went for the kill...but?

What I don't like about articles like this is all the rhetoric that she uses for describing someone. She basically calls Jerry an old, with trash, fool who should keep his mouth shut, or Garret will turn out like other coaches that have failed.

I get it...

[Beast_from_East]

How about shut the **** up for a change. I wish JJ would just go away.

What did Jerry say that was not true?

If he is asked a question, is he not supposed to give an honest answer? He should just lie about it or talk around the question and never answer it like a politician?

Jerry said what 99% of the threads on this board was saying after the game.

[rcaldw]

What did Jerry say that was not true?

If he is asked a question, is he not supposed to give an honest answer? He should just lie about it or talk around the question and never answer it like a politician?

Jerry said what 99% of the threads on this board was saying after the game.

He should say what a professional owner and GM SHOULD SAY. "I support my head coach and those are his calls to make." That would be the absolute truth, and he could say whatever else he needs to say privately. But you see there are two problems with that, and two reasons why Jerry doesn't do that.

1. It takes self-control
2. It doesn't put Jerry in the spotlight

Enough said.

[Seven]

What did Jerry say that was not true?

Ethics, dude. Keeping the message in house. Would one expect a teammate to echo the same sentiment?

He should just lie about it or talk around the question and never answer it like a politician?

You mean jerry just should've been jerry? He does this ALL THE TIME.

Jerry said what 99% of the threads on this board was saying after the game.

Yeah and I'm sure what we say on this board has major bearing on the working relationship of the Dallas Cowboys. Go ahead and post "jerry is a ********". I betcha a million bucks he WON'T show up at your door to punch you in the face. Pathetically weak argument.

[2233boys]

What did Jerry say that was not true?

If he is asked a question, is he not supposed to give an honest answer? He should just lie about it or talk around the question and never answer it like a politician?

Jerry said what 99% of the threads on this board was saying after the game. Nothing

I told you what he should do. Do I need to post it again? He is a bag of wind and nothing of value ever comes out of his mouth.

The Cowboys play calling wouldn't be an issue if the moron GM would have tried to address the oline more then once or twice in the last 10 years. The only thing I want to hear out of his mouth is "I am stepping down as the GM of the Dallas Cowboys.". Other than that he shut his mouth.

[bbgun]

Tongue in cheek, bro.

Jerry does say stupid things, and he needs to stop it. But, he was right in what he did say...Garrett did not do a good job of game management at that point.

Garrett should have went for the kill...but?

What I don't like about articles like this is all the rhetoric that she uses for describing someone. She basically calls Jerry an old, with trash, fool who should keep his mouth shut, or Garret will turn out like other coaches that have failed.

I get it...

If you publicly undermine your head coach by second-guessing his decisions after a tough loss, expect to get slapped down. Yes, he had a point, but that wasn't the way to impart it.

[REDVOLUTION]

the mental image of that actually happening is hilarious


That is funny.




Jerry is a meddling, "look at me" clown.

We are never going to win with him running the show.


I thought he was giving all final say and such to Garrett, which may be true.
But talking this trash in the media is going to hurt more than help.



Thanks Jerry. Thanks for 3 SB's we won because you stayed out, well out of the first two. He sold his soul for the 3rd one.


The guy is a clown

[ScipioCowboy]

The axiom holds true. The more things change, the more they stay the same.

[casmith07]

How about shut the **** up for a change. I wish JJ would just go away.

It would be nice if the only time we saw him was in shots of him in the box during the game, and at press conferences introducing new players/coaches.

I can't wait until Stephen takes over.

[casmith07]

The Cowboys play calling wouldn't be an issue if the moron GM would have tried to address the oline more then once or twice in the last 10 years.

There is a ton of truth in this statement.

For the good moves Jerry has made, he's also made some horrific ones, or just outright omitted making any moves...like failing to go out and get a real safety after cutting Hamlin, either through the draft or free agency (until we got housed on a regular basis - then he signs Elam), and the complete and utter neglect of the offensive line over the years.

At this rate it's going to take at least a season or two more of us getting hammered in the running game for him to really go get an elite runner or top-tier talent for the interior line.

[ScipioCowboy]

It would be nice if the only time we saw him was in shots of him in the box during the game, and at press conferences introducing new players/coaches.

This is the key problem, in my opinion.

As a talent evaluator, Jerry has improved immensely over the past 15 years; however, his stubborn insistence on being the face of the franchise perpetuates this culture of mediocrity.

To whom do the players really answer? Who's really in charge?

[wileedog]

If you publicly undermine your head coach by second-guessing his decisions after a tough loss, expect to get slapped down. Yes, he had a point, but that wasn't the way to impart it.

I think it was made worse by the way he first praised the way the players had played, and then turned and pointed out the mistakes of the coach.

It's Wade's World all over again. Everything is the coaches fault, and meanwhile the players who actually had some of the dumbest mistakes I have seen in a while this game (an offside penalty returning a kick off? really?) are let off scott free by the owner.

[morasp]

JG can't win. One week we pass and lose the next we run, don't turn the ball over and we lose and he gets criticized for both. It's pretty easy to say after something didn't work that we should have done something else, we do it all the time, but it would be interesting to hear Jerry's thoughts before the running plays were called. I sure hope JG doesn't get into calling the game like he thinks Jerry wants him to or we are sunk.

That being said I remember back to the 49s game when Harper made that historic catch and sure wish we would have had something aggressive like that against the pats.

[Idgit]

I never read JFE anymore. Not sure why I opened this. Has all her stuff become this bad?

"This game was decided right down there at the end, and I am so proud of these players, the way they competed tonight," Jones said after his team lost another last-second game to New England. "We rolled the dice at the end and went conservative rather than try to get some points and it bit us."

You may hear what Jones said 50 times and not understand the gravity of what he did, why it is a big deal and why this has potential to doom whatever the Cowboys may be building.

Fortunately, for you, I do.

Excuse me, stewardess … I speak Jerry.

Translation: I am proud of my players. You, Jason Garrett? Not so much. Your sorry conservative play calling in the final minutes cost us moreso than, say, a shoddily constructed offensive line or our three ineffectual running backs, or the fact that we no longer trust our quarterback with the winning portion of the game.


Excuse me, stewardess, I speak Jerry? Really? And then you're free to just twist the words however you see fit? This story pales the importance of Handshakegate in Detroit? Really.

This is crap. And it's a shame, too, because there was meat for an actual article here.

[dooomsday]

What a joke. Of course she's right. This isnt about your Garrett agendas ladies. This is about our team and nowhere in the NFL does a coach have to deal with added scrutiny of being questioned by a clueless drunk who doesnt win.

Coach killer #1: Romo
And only slightly behind at #2: Jerry

All Wad fans, now Garrett haters, used to hate when Jerry undermined Uncle wad. Now its no problem., since its aimed at Garrett.

**** and GM like a real GM. Someone should call him out for failing at his job much worse. Whats he supposed to say? "Who do I make your checks out to?" And thats about I all want to hear from this buffoon.

[Eddie]

But JFE, Garrett did blow the game. So what do you want the man to do, lie about it? Everybody and their freaking Grandmother knew Garrett lost his balls and blew the game. Jerry was just being Captain Obvious here.


Jerry should have kicked the Boy Wonder right in the nads after the game and said "what the hell was that".

No Jones doesn't have to lie about it, he should just keep his mouth shut.

[BraveHeartFan]

the mental image of that actually happening is hilarious


I have to admit that I cracked up at the mental image of that happening.

[Zimmy Lives]

I'm sure I'll be in the minority, but as I already stated in a thread earlier in the week, I think she is right. Jerry was out of bounds on this and it won't help his team. Hopefully we start winning with this Sunday and it becomes a moot point and a non-issue.

I think she's right as well.

Jerruh's biggest problem is he is still living in the past. This isn't Troy behind a great o-line with HOF players at key positions. Going for the kill isn't so easy these days.

[tyke1doe]

He should say what a professional owner and GM SHOULD SAY. "I support my head coach and those are his calls to make." That would be the absolute truth, and he could say whatever else he needs to say privately. But you see there are two problems with that, and two reasons why Jerry doesn't do that.

1. It takes self-control
2. It doesn't put Jerry in the spotlight

Enough said.

^ this ^

[tyke1doe]

I never read JFE anymore. Not sure why I opened this. Has all her stuff become this bad?



Excuse me, stewardess, I speak Jerry? Really? And then you're free to just twist the words however you see fit? This story pales the importance of Handshakegate in Detroit? Really.

This is crap. And it's a shame, too, because there was meat for an actual article here.

Again, posters are confusing an article with a commentary.

[Idgit]

Again, posters are confusing an article with a commentary.

Yeah, but shouldn't commentary at least be interesting? Is it ok to just throw out Jerry-bait and see what happens?

[Seven]

Yeah, but shouldn't commentary at least be interesting? Is it ok to just throw out Jerry-bait and see what happens?

How is it that jerry himself chums constantly yet it's wrong when it's pointed out by a member of the media?


We would not have these conundrums if jerry didn't hold himself so highly in the coaching end of football.


What does he want? Football or big business? He can't seem to handle both well at all.

[Idgit]

How is it that jerry himself chums constantly yet it's wrong when it's pointed out by a member of the media?

We would not have these conundrums if jerry didn't hold himself so highly in the coaching end of football.

What does he want? Football or big business? He can't seem to handle both well at all.

That's a false dichotomy. Jerry was wrong (and obviously regretted it), and LBH is just baiting with stupid-bait, and her work is bad as a result. Now, it might be effective, I don't know. I have a hard time seeing it even being effective when it's this transparently bad, but then believing that requires a higher regard for Dallas Cowboys fans that I actually have, so I'm torn.

[Chocolate Lab]

All Wad fans, now Garrett haters, used to hate when Jerry undermined Uncle wad. Now its no problem., since its aimed at Garrett.

And vice-versa.

Which includes JFE. If Jerry had said this about a Wade team, she'd be screaming that see, even Jerry is smarter than this waste of a coach. But since it's someone she's already professed her love for, then Jerry is undermining him and should keep his mouth shut.

The truth is that Jerry *should* be quiet regardless of who the coach is, but it's just a fact that he's not going to.

And JFE is still a pathetic hack.

[Seven]

That's a false dichotomy. Jerry was wrong (and obviously regretted it), and LBH is just baiting with stupid-bait, and her work is bad as a result. Now, it might be effective, I don't know. I have a hard time seeing it even being effective when it's this transparently bad, but then believing that requires a higher regard for Dallas Cowboys fans that I actually have, so I'm torn.

Nice post. I'll have to disagree with you, one of the very few times I have btw.

There are some things in the business world he transpires in the football arena and are quite frankly, unacceptable. His salesman approach to just about every aspect, via his thought process, has him stumbling at every turn when not directed at the business end of his career. He's not a coach. He's not a talent evaluator and he's not a GM of football. JMO, of course.


He still struggles wearing the two hats, IMO. He's much more competent at one gig than he's at the other. Much more.