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cowboyjoe
10-25-2011, 09:25 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lHcdOp6HqA&feature=player_embedded

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Idgit
10-25-2011, 09:56 AM
Somehow, I don't think this comment gets the same reaction this week. We've gotten so much better the last seven days.

Doomsday101
10-25-2011, 10:08 AM
Murray actually never used the word unbeatable. I will say in the Cowboys losses we have done more to beat ourselves than what the opposing team did to us.

stasheroo
10-25-2011, 10:13 AM
Murray actually never used the word unbeatable. I will say in the Cowboys losses we have done more to beat ourselves than what the opposing team did to us.

That's the term I took issue with, using the term 'unbeatable'. If someone wants to say that the Cowboys have done themselves in with stupid mistakes, I would agree and have no problem with the assessment.

But I don't like using that term to describe a 3-loss team, especially from a player who is not doing everything they can to be as good as they can be.

Doomsday101
10-25-2011, 10:45 AM
That's the term I took issue with, using the term 'unbeatable'. If someone wants to say that the Cowboys have done themselves in with stupid mistakes, I would agree and have no problem with the assessment.

But I don't like using that term to describe a 3-loss team, especially from a player who is not doing everything they can to be as good as they can be.

I just want to see them go out play hard and win games. As I have said before what players say does not bother me at all unless they are attacking other teammates and throwing them under the bus then I have a big issue with that. I think Dez saying that does no harm and if he motivates him to play harder to back his statement up then great

RoyTheHammer
10-25-2011, 11:58 AM
Murray actually never used the word unbeatable. I will say in the Cowboys losses we have done more to beat ourselves than what the opposing team did to us.

If you focus on what Dez was actually trying to say, instead of just taking one word out of it and focusing on that out of context, he and Murray said the same thing.

Doomsday101
10-25-2011, 12:01 PM
If you focus on what Dez was actually trying to say, instead of just taking one word out of it and focusing on that out of context, he and Murray said the same thing.

Pretty much the same meaning behind it and frankly that has been the case where games we have lost have been more about our own mistakes.

As I mentioned I don't care what players are saying until it turns into finger pointing. If Dez or Murray or any of the Cowboy players believe that by cutting down on their own mistakes that we can win ball games then good because it is true

Idgit
10-25-2011, 12:33 PM
Murray actually never used the word unbeatable. I will say in the Cowboys losses we have done more to beat ourselves than what the opposing team did to us.

He was asked directly about Dez's quote, paraphrased, that the only team that can beat the the Cowboys *is* the Cowboys. To which he said "I definitely feel the same way." I'm not sure there's any significant difference between that and 'unbeatable' in the context that Dez used it.

What's different is that he said it a week after a totally predictable blowout win over the Rams instead of after a close road loss to the Patriots. The team is no better week than they were last week, and the only thing that changed is we have evidence that both Dez and Murray were right when it comes to playing a bad team like the Rams.

People overreacted to the Dez quote, without really reading it, whether they're willing to admit it or not. Welcome to CZ after a loss.

Doomsday101
10-25-2011, 12:36 PM
He was asked directly about Dez's quote, paraphrased, that the only team that can beat the the Cowboys *is* the Cowboys. To which he said "I definitely feel the same way." I'm not sure there's any significant difference between that and 'unbeatable' in the context that Dez used it.

What's different is that he said it a week after a totally predictable blowout win over the Rams instead of after a close road loss to the Patriots. The team is no better week than they were last week, and the only thing that changed is we have evidence that both Dez and Murray were right when it comes to playing a bad team like the Rams.

People overreacted to the Dez quote, without really reading it, whether they're willing to admit it or not. Welcome to CZ after a loss.

and the question goes back to and so what? He is not bad mouthing any team and the fact is we can win when we are not shooting ourselfs in the foot. If knowing this and saying this helps them pay closer attention to detail and work harder to stop making negitive plays then great because the fact is we have been our worst enemy in terms of the games we have lost.

RoyTheHammer
10-25-2011, 12:37 PM
He was asked directly about Dez's quote, paraphrased, that the only team that can beat the the Cowboys *is* the Cowboys. To which he said "I definitely feel the same way." I'm not sure there's any significant difference between that and 'unbeatable' in the context that Dez used it.

What's different is that he said it a week after a totally predictable blowout win over the Rams instead of after a close road loss to the Patriots. The team is no better week than they were last week, and the only thing that changed is we have evidence that both Dez and Murray were right when it comes to playing a bad team like the Rams.

People overreacted to the Dez quote, without really reading it, whether they're willing to admit it or not. Welcome to CZ after a loss.

Idgit seconded a point i made.. i guess i should start preparing for the next ice age now.

RoyTheHammer
10-25-2011, 12:39 PM
and the question goes back to and so what? He is not bad mouthing any team and the fact is we can win when we are not shooting ourselfs in the foot. If knowing this and saying this helps them pay closer attention to detail and work harder to stop making negitive plays then great because the fact is we have been our worst enemy in terms of the games we have lost.

You had said that Murray didn't use the word "unbeatable", as if that differentiated his statement from what Dez was trying to say.. when really, as you admit now, they said the same thing. That's all.

Doomsday101
10-25-2011, 12:41 PM
You had said that Murray didn't use the word "unbeatable", as if that differentiated his statement from what Dez was trying to say.. when really, as you admit now, they said the same thing. That's all.

Because he didn't, he said we would be in the game if we don't make mistakes and shoot ourselfs in the foot. That is what he said that is not saying unbeatable. But even if you take it that way so what, they say this for their benifet not yours or mine. If they go out and stop the dumb mistakes they can match up vs any team out there and if they don't believe that then the lost the game before they ever kicked off

RoyTheHammer
10-25-2011, 12:45 PM
Because he didn't, he said we would be in the game if we don't make mistakes and shoot ourselfs in the foot. That is what he said that is not saying unbeatable. But even if you take it that way so what, they say this for their benifet not yours or mine. If they go out and stop the dumb mistakes they can match up vs any team out there and if they don't believe that then the lost the game before they ever kicked off

Watch the clip again. He pretty clearly agreed with Dez.

"Dez said this.. do you agree?"

"Yes"

The only difference is the way the worded their answers, but what they were trying to say was the same. Again, you're focusing too much on one word of a response, rather than trying to understand the full meaning of what he was saying.

Doomsday101
10-25-2011, 12:47 PM
Watch the clip again. He pretty clearly agreed with Dez.

"Dez said this.. do you agree."

"Yes"

The only difference is the way the worded their answers, but what they were trying to say was the same.

Yes he said he agreed and his wording is different not exactly the same. I take it that in gerneral Murray agrees but by his own words he said we would be in the game that is different statement.

but again so what if it he means exactly the same thing Dez said?

Idgit
10-25-2011, 12:49 PM
and the question goes back to and so what? He is not bad mouthing any team and the fact is we can win when we are not shooting ourselfs in the foot. If knowing this and saying this helps them pay closer attention to detail and work harder to stop making negitive plays then great because the fact is we have been our worst enemy in terms of the games we have lost.

I'm with you, 100%. I brought it back up as a point of illustration of how differently comments like these are received after a loss v. how they're perceived after a win.

The first poster that tells Murray to shut up, pull up his pants, and focus on this playbook can prove me wrong. Until then, I think the point's clear that it doesn't matter at all what the players say when they're spitting out generic quotes about not beating themselves and the sky being the limit. These are harmless interviews with the players to fill in the time between games. They're fun to listen to, and nothing to overreact to.

RoyTheHammer
10-25-2011, 12:49 PM
Hell, even the guys at ESPN knew what Dez was trying to say and didn't blow it up like some of our fanbase is trying to. lol

Did they focus on the one word out of context? No. You can tell by how they asked Murray the question.

RoyTheHammer
10-25-2011, 12:51 PM
but again so what if it he means exactly the same thing Dez said?

The point is many were enraged at Dez when he said it, but i don't see anyone getting on Murray for having the same opinion.

People just want to jump on Dez because of his reputation, and it gets pathetic sometimes. He made a good point, we beat ourselves in those games we lost.

Doomsday101
10-25-2011, 12:53 PM
Hell, even the guys at ESPN knew what Dez was trying to say and didn't blow it up like some of our fanbase is trying to. lol

Did they focus on the one word out of context? No. You can tell by how they asked Murray the question.

Yes and Murray explained his view.

Because I may agree in general with another person statement does not mean I nessasarrly agree with the entire statement.

I'm basing my opinion on exactly what Murray said. To me had he said yeah we are unbeatable if we don't make mistakes I would not be offended in the least but I'm not going to put words in his mouth I head what he said period