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STSINAZ
03-20-2005, 02:28 PM
The best way IMO to take out your enemy is to take advantage of either their weaknesses or to strengthen the strongest part of your army to such an extent that nothing brought against it can withstand it.

Obviously this is not war but there is a battle that goes on every Sunday afternoon at about noon depending on what time zone you are in and it happens right there on every NFL football field. You are probably saying to yourself how does the opening paragraph pertain to me and the Cwboys...well...the strongest part of our team or in this case a part of our team that would be strengthened beyond all measure if we were to add a top notch player is at the receiver position. IMO if we were to add Mike Williams or Braylon Edwards that position would be the best on our team and no one would be able to defense our offense. Add that with an All Pro TE, an up and coming future probowl runningback, a probowl addition at guard and a Quarterback who just a few years ago threw for over 4,300 yards and you have a serious offense in the making. Now I know that we need a backup for JJ and we will get that. I also know that Rivera is going to have to be ok also but IMO and Lincoln Kennedy's opinion this is a minor surgery. One that most offensive linemen have one time or another in their career. Here is why I think this one move will put us over the top where most teams won't be able to defense us.

Keyshawn is getting older and this move will make him a #2 receiver. He is an OK one but as a #2 he would definitely be above average. Terry Glenn would be the ultimate #3 receiver. Maybe the best in the league. He can still play and this move would only put him on the field on passing downs. It would prolong his career. I guarantee you if we get one of these guys in the 1st round (Williams or Edwards), this will be Bill Parcell's speech to him. I have heard it before from him regarding 30+ players. Quincy Morgan is going to know the playbook this time around and he will be healthy. We would be able to go to 4 receiver sets if needed and dominate teams. Could you imagine these 4 receivers setting up out of the shotgun? Who do you cover? How about 5 receiver sets and no runningback with Witten in there? At least this gives up major options. Quincy also will be able to sub in for Keyshawn to help him out some as far as playing time so he will be able to be healthy down the stretch. If anyone of them gets injured we are covered. Crayton and Copper will have to play that much harder to make the team.

The main reason this will help is this. Williams or Edwards would eventually have to be doubleteamed and I dont have to tell you what Witten does to linebackers who try and cover him man up. I also dont have to tell you what Glenn would do in the slot singlemanned up against the 3rd best CB on the team. Don't forget the running lanes this will create for JJ who IMO, if he can stay healthy, is about to breakout with a 1500 yard season. This move would open everything up for him even more so. How could they bring a safety down in the box and leave Mike Williams singlecovered? They will have to pick their poison. The thing about the QB position...all the arguments about Bledsoe not having it in crunch time....with this move that would be put to rest because by the time crunch time comes along, as long as our Defense holds up, their would be nothing to win. The game will already have been won!

In closing I think we have it all wrong as far as what we think BP is going to do in this draft...the way most of us think is like this....we have certain holes, we dont necessarily need a WR, so why would we waste our first pick on one? and even the 2nd by having to trade up? Because as I said it's not about filling holes it's about totally getting one aspect of your game so lopsided that there is nothing your opponent can do. Then you have dominance! Mike Williams or Braylon Edwards would bring dominance back to the Dallas Cowboys.

dargonking999
03-20-2005, 02:30 PM
Great we ahve a great offense, but theres one thing your forgetting, see you knw trhe colts the best offense in the league, well they got beat by a great defense, we need a defense first offense second.

big dog cowboy
03-20-2005, 02:32 PM
Mike Williams or Braylon Edwards would bring dominance back to the Dallas Cowboys.
Only 1 problem.....neither can play defense. Last time I checked, that is what wins championships. Ask Indy or KC about having a non-stop offense.

Cowboys&Caps
03-20-2005, 03:11 PM
Our defense is so much better than Indianapolis or kansas city's, i agree with him, we need to trade up and get MIKE WILLIAMS, Braylon Edwards is trash.

dargonking999
03-20-2005, 03:14 PM
Our defense is so much better than Indianapolis or kansas city's, i agree with him, we need to trade up and get MIKE WILLIAMS, Braylon Edwards is trash.

so our defense lead the league in forced tournovers, pretty much creatd havioc on the OL, KC isnt anything but INdy has a good solid defense, people dont give them credity for what they do, nad yet they cant seem to win, really i think if we wanna win we need to solidy our defense first then our offense.

jterrell
03-20-2005, 03:18 PM
If we are to attack our biggest NFCE competition we want to run the ball. They have a problem with that.

We may have already done that with the signing of Rivera and continued development of Al Johnson. The RT position needs to be shored up somehow and a backup RB brought in.

I love Ryan Moats as the potential backup to JJ.

Cowboys&Caps
03-20-2005, 03:20 PM
i see what your saying, but IMO, we suffered very much from not having a 3rd CB after Pete Hunter, and got worse when he went down, teams exploited that, and we really will improve just by having signed a good big DT in Furguson, and a solid CB in Henry. JW...Dargonking what do u think our greatest defensive need is?

dargonking999
03-20-2005, 03:21 PM
Saftey and then LB and then DT

sybarite
03-20-2005, 03:26 PM
The only player in this draft that will be certain to stand out is Clayton. His ability to run after the catch will force defenses to rotate to his side in order to prevent long play after long play. His presence will open up lanes for other receivers and take pressure off the running game.

He will be somewhat like Rice, and that will make some team's offense very dangerous.

Cowboys&Caps
03-20-2005, 03:28 PM
i think we should try to trade #11 and 3rd round (#73 i think) to minny for #7 get Mike Williams then with #20 draft SS Davis out of Georgia

dargonking999
03-20-2005, 03:33 PM
i think we need to get more draft picks to get more depth and to get a better roster, one player is good, but more is better. WHy go after a #1 guy who can be a bust and sacrfice our other picks for a lotttery ticket, i say trade down and get more depth

2much2soon
03-20-2005, 03:33 PM
I love Ryan Moats as the potential backup to JJ.


Yes, Moats is a blur out there. I have watched him a couple of time in the last two years.

About Joe Morris/Dave Meggett size, too. Hmmm.....

followthestar
03-20-2005, 03:36 PM
i think we should try to trade #11 and 3rd round (#73 i think) to minny for #7 get Mike Williams then with #20 draft SS Davis out of Georgia

great idea except for 2 things: Minn isn't going to trade out of landing Williams themselves since Moss left, and we don't have a third round pick...

ghst187
03-20-2005, 03:38 PM
I think DE is the position that needs primary focus because if we have a pass rush, our secondary becomes all-pro and our LBs are at least serviceable but better with a great front 4. If we trade for Howard, I think it would stabilize our entire defense and any other players we add on d would be icing. Sure a FS and LB will be great too but a gamechanging, double team commanding, redzone terrorizing WR would take our offense to new heights. If we get MW, even though we'd essentially have two big possession-type WRs, we still have Glenn, Morgan, Crayton, and Copper that can go vertical. Its not like TO is beating people deep all the time. Throw in our underneath game tossing to Witten, JJ, and Anderson (insert pass catching FB here) and we have a pretty deadly offense that can beat you with the run, deep ball, or underneath passes to go with a very stout defense. Without a true #1 WR like MW, we can be decent on offense but IMO, not dramatic or methodical and probably not consistent enough to challenge for the SB. Think about it, if we don't get a true #1 this offseason how different will our offense be from last season? Not a lot, Bledsoe over Teste, Rivera over Gurode, and we get Campbell back...not causing anyone in our division any sleepless nights I assure you.
That said, even if we don't get Howard and DO get MW at 11, what DE is worth the 11 pick in this draft anyway...? maaaaaaaaybe Spears? I'd just as soon have Tuck or Pollack at 20 or with a slight trade down.
Overall, my point is that with a solid, sack producing DE and a legit #1 WR like MW (maybe Williamson can be this guy too i don't know) I think we are VERY dangerous team overall that could threaten anyone deep into the playoffs, much more dangerous than if we draft 3 defensive players on day one and don't get Howard or Abraham.

jterrell
03-20-2005, 03:41 PM
Yes, Moats is a blur out there. I have watched him a couple of time in the last two years.

About Joe Morris/Dave Meggett size, too. Hmmm.....
And he's from Dallas so it's not like they would have to fly him in, LOL

STSINAZ
03-20-2005, 06:05 PM
with the 20th pick in the draft we could either trade down to get that safety and RE....or pick a RE there,,hybrid type...that could standup in the 3-4...hunter or davis may prove to be ok at safety...how many other positions do we need fixed on D? we got our NT...we picked up our corner...safety, RE, and maybe ROLB are the only other three and they can do that with what is left in free agency...or after june 1st...or like I said the draft...our D will be ok...

so our defense lead the league in forced tournovers, pretty much creatd havioc on the OL, KC isnt anything but INdy has a good solid defense, people dont give them credity for what they do, nad yet they cant seem to win, really i think if we wanna win we need to solidy our defense first then our offense.

dargonking999
03-20-2005, 06:08 PM
with the 20th pick in the draft we could either trade down to get that safety and RE....or pick a RE there,,hybrid type...that could standup in the 3-4...hunter or davis may prove to be ok at safety...how many other positions do we need fixed on D? we got our NT...we picked up our corner...safety, RE, and maybe ROLB are the only other three and they can do that with what is left in free agency...or after june 1st...or like I said the draft...our D will be ok...


Yes it will untill we run into our injury bug lke lat year, then what, what do we do when our players start going down and we have no depth becauase we wasted out picks on ONE guy,

STSINAZ
03-20-2005, 06:16 PM
that could happen at WR if we pick no one up just like it did last year...when you have a chance to go after greatness and you know this will put you over the top on one side of the ball ....AND....you know your D will still be in good shape....YOU HAVE TO DO IT....it could the difference between going out in the first round or going to the NFC championship...or better...

Its not like we havent upgraded our defense with Ferguson and Henry...and if we get a starting DE in the 1st round at 20...there is another upgrade...my point is THERE ARE NO defensive players that would put us over the top on defense like Mike Williams or Braylon Edwards would on Offense....get my point?

Yes it will untill we run into our injury bug lke lat year, then what, what do we do when our players start going down and we have no depth becauase we wasted out picks on ONE guy,

big dog cowboy
03-20-2005, 06:28 PM
Saftey and then LB and then DT
There is no way a need list can be made for the defense without a pass rushing DE or OLB being the top priority. Period.

big dog cowboy
03-20-2005, 06:43 PM
my point is THERE ARE NO defensive players that would put us over the top on defense like Mike Williams or Braylon Edwards would on Offense....get my point?
Given the history of our offense the last few years, it is impossible for me to imagine any one player putting us put us over the top. At this point I think average offense would be impressive. Better than average would be awesome. Over the top seems like a big pipe dream to me.

dargonking999
03-20-2005, 06:53 PM
that could happen at WR if we pick no one up just like it did last year...when you have a chance to go after greatness and you know this will put you over the top on one side of the ball ....AND....you know your D will still be in good shape....YOU HAVE TO DO IT....it could the difference between going out in the first round or going to the NFC championship...or better...

Its not like we havent upgraded our defense with Ferguson and Henry...and if we get a starting DE in the 1st round at 20...there is another upgrade...my point is THERE ARE NO defensive players that would put us over the top on defense like Mike Williams or Braylon Edwards would on Offense....get my point?

I fully agree but is it worth giving up everything for one player that MIGHT put us over the top what happens if he gets hurt what happens if bledsuoe doesnt perform, what happens of our OL falls to pieces, why invest our whole future in one guy, we've done it twice with Henson and Gallowaste, not looking to do it again

dargonking999
03-20-2005, 06:53 PM
There is no way a need list can be made for the defense without a pass rushing DE or OLB being the top priority. Period.

First OLB is the same as aLB which is of course at the top of my list
second i'm of course using that list as if we had got Howard