Drew Pearson Going at Garrett

[Frozen700]

http://www.dallasnews.com/sports/dallas-cowboys/headlines/20111108-drew-pearson-if-i-was-a-cowboys-receiver-i-d-be-frustrated-what-s-going-on.ece

Pearson: I think he's a good offensive coordinator. I'm not so happy with his playcalling. If I was a receiver, I'd be frustrated. Tony Hill and I would be on the sidelines pissed. What's going on? Why are we running these same routes? Give us something to be successful on. What about a counter route? What about a deep turn-in? Help get this defensive back off me by quitting calling the same plays. I don't see that creativity in the offense and I think it is very stale right now.


I agree to an extent.

I don't know what it is, but we need to give our WR' a chance and be more creative.

Teams love to play us 2 man under...a good way to beat man, is to run a bunch formation, or snug tight formations. It confuses the man in coverage, and may cause a blown assignment, or forces a team to audible into a zone.

I would love to see us do more motions, Bunch, Trips ect.....

We just line str8 up/spread out every play. I love Garret but we need to be a bit more creative.

[Galian Beast]

There are a lot of things to do offensively that we don't do.

It all comes back to Garrett one way or another.

[Frozen700]

There are a lot of things to do offensively that we don't do.

It all comes back to Garrett one way or another.

Yeah i dont know if our players just can't run different formations or what, but damn, different formations can help a lot.

[Mash]

Its so frustrating......this year we blew games we should of won....

We have talent on this team....I look at our WR's and TE and I dont know if there is too many teams with a better trio

That being said....its our lack of redzone success that is killing us.

If its the playcalling...the execution....etc.....it all comes back to JG. Parctice...Practice...Practice....and if players fail to execute and your not willing to invent some other plays....then replace the players that cant execute your calls.

Hopefully we can get on a roll here and solve these issues....We need to string a bunch of wins together and then to be at the top of our game to beat the Eagles and Giants when its time to play them.

[Everlastingxxx]

You have to give Dez Bryant at least one jump ball inside the redzone. Give your wide outs an opportunity to make a play. I think Romo zeros into Witten too often when they are down there. Spaces are too tight and he is covered up. You can blame Garrett and he has to take some blame, but i think Romo has to pull the trigger and makes plays with his arm and legs. That’s why he gets paid the big bucks.

[EPL0c0]

i defense of Red.... some of the WRs don't know some of the current routes or frequently run them incorrectly. adding more or making them more complex isn't a plan for success...not right away

And I agree w/t MASH. If a guy can't run the right routes...bench him, no matter who he is and no matter how upset the GM gets. You have to send a messege.

[Little Jr]

Ray Lewis said in 08 that we run a very vanilla offense.

[CATCH17]

I agree with Drew Pearson but he is so wacky sometimes that I can't take him seriously.

[shockandroll]

i defense of Red.... some of the WRs don't know some of the current routes or frequently run them incorrectly. adding more or making them more complex isn't a plan for success...not right away

And I agree w/t MASH. If a guy can't run the right routes...bench him, no matter who he is and no matter how upset the GM gets. You have to send a message.

I don't think it's the players, because he's done with with every player he gets. I'm not too fond of Drew these days because it seems like all I ever hear is him calling people out and he comes across as feeling disrespected, imo. He seems jealous Dez is getting attention as a great 88, just my opinion on that.

However, I have to say I agree completely with him on this.

[rcaldw]

Please explain how you put up over 400 yards with a vanilla offense? I don't know, are we in the bottom half of offenses?

Or, if you want to go the other way....

Tell me who DIDN'T know what the 1992,93,94, and 95 Cowboys were doing?

Didn't know the slant was coming?
Didn't know the skinny post was a possibility?
Didn't know the comeback route to the sideline might show up?

Honestly, whether its Drew, or my all-time favorite Troy, or any of the other guys who played for us, I wish they would just support these guys rather than making their job more difficult.

[Frozen700]

Ray Lewis said in 08 that we run a very vanilla offense.

Bro we just have to switch it up once in a while...I'm dying for us to use a ton of motion...or bunch formations...it can really screw a zone up...or leave a corner/defender in man in a huge trail position.

[Givincer]

Pearson: I think he's a good offensive coordinator. I'm not so happy with his playcalling.

How does that make any sense?

[Galian Beast]

I don't think it's the players, because he's done with with every player he gets. I'm not too fond of Drew these days because it seems like all I ever hear is him calling people out and he comes across as feeling disrespected, imo. He seems jealous Dez is getting attention as a great 88, just my opinion on that.

However, I have to say I agree completely with him on this.

Exactly my thoughts. From Garrett to Drew.

If the players don't know what they're doing you coach them or replace them, but at the end of the day you're responsible for the product you put out there.

Ray Lewis did say we had a vanilla offense, and that to mean speaks to Garrett's inexperience. I don't think our offense has progressed since then.

We need to mix things up, that's how you beat defenses in the nfl. Execution AND Scheme.

But guess what, they're both on Garrett.

[CATCH17]

Please explain how you put up over 400 yards with a vanilla offense? I don't know, are we in the bottom half of offenses?

Or, if you want to go the other way....

Tell me who DIDN'T know what the 1992,93,94, and 95 Cowboys were doing?

Didn't know the slant was coming?
Didn't know the skinny post was a possibility?
Didn't know the comeback route to the sideline might show up?

Honestly, whether its Drew, or my all-time favorite Troy, or any of the other guys who played for us, I wish they would just support these guys rather than making their job more difficult.


They are paid to do a job and give their opinion's. Not to be homers.

It's so obvious Garrett struggles as an OC and I won't support it because I care more about W's than supporting something that is holding us back just because im a homer.


Between the 20's Garrett gets the job done. Situationally he is TERRIBLE.

[Reality]

How does that make any sense?

I was wondering that myself :D

#reality

[JonJon]

i defense of Red.... some of the WRs don't know some of the current routes or frequently run them incorrectly. adding more or making them more complex isn't a plan for success...not right away

And I agree w/t MASH. If a guy can't run the right routes...bench him, no matter who he is and no matter how upset the GM gets. You have to send a messege.

The deep-in pattern is one of the simplest to run,which is a pattern that Pearson is calling for, and a pattern that I also have wondered why we see so less of. It is highly effective and hard to defend unless you have zone support in the middle with excellent ILB's or safeties.

It doesn't seem like we game plan to exploit the weaknesses of other teams, but rather just take the plays that they "give us." I would like to see more plays attacking other teams weaknesses like they do us.

[Idgit]

I'm a bit confused by the OP. Is Drew criticizing the play calling? Or the play design? It sounds like he's mostly talking about the latter. And, honestly, I don't know that I'm able to see enough from the tv footage to know if the WR routes are uninspired or have become predictable. Judging from our production, I'd guess that we were doing alright in that department, but it's hard to say.

[Frozen700]

I'm a bit confused by the OP. Is Drew criticizing the play calling? Or the play design? It sounds like he's mostly talking about the latter. And, honestly, I don't know that I'm able to see enough from the tv footage to know if the WR routes are uninspired or have become predictable. Judging from our production, I'd guess that we were doing alright in that department, but it's hard to say.

He has another article on the Redzone. He's basically saying we run the same routes every damn time.

And that we don't do enough creativity on Offense

[baj1dallas]

Laurent Robinson isn't having any problems getting the DBs off of him or with the routes it seems. Maybe the other receivers should focus on sucking less instead of complaining.

[Stautner]

How does that make any sense?

That was my first thought too.

[Idgit]

Laurent Robinson isn't having any problems getting the DBs off of him or with the routes it seems. Maybe the other receivers should focus on sucking less instead of complaining.

Seriously? If only there were some way to know why Robinson's so open and the other WRs seem to suck so much. I wonder if it has anything to do with the coverage?

Honestly, I'm continually surprised how clueless *and* how vocal on some topics some of you guys are. There should be a light that goes off in your head when you think you've discovered a problem that nobody else has seen and nobody covering the team is complaining about. Either everybody else is missing something.....or you are.

[dboy214]

Please explain how you put up over 400 yards with a vanilla offense? I don't know, are we in the bottom half of offenses?

Or, if you want to go the other way....

Tell me who DIDN'T know what the 1992,93,94, and 95 Cowboys were doing?

Didn't know the slant was coming?
Didn't know the skinny post was a possibility?
Didn't know the comeback route to the sideline might show up?

Honestly, whether its Drew, or my all-time favorite Troy, or any of the other guys who played for us, I wish they would just support these guys rather than making their job more difficult.
yards dont mean ****

it's all about points.

garrett needs to fire himself as OC asap.

[McLovin]

Ray Lewis, Ed Reed, TO, Drew Pearson, couchscout, etc - have laid criticism at Garret's OC effectiveness as translated to Ws and Pts. (Stats tend to back it up).


Where does the buck stop?

[dboy214]

Ray Lewis, Ed Reed, TO, Drew Pearson, couchscout, etc - have laid criticism at Garret's OC effectiveness as translated to Ws and Pts. (Stats tend to back it up).


Where does the buck stop?
they're all wrong.

it's the receivers fault for running wrong routes.

:rolleyes:

[Idgit]

Ray Lewis, Ed Reed, TO, Drew Pearson, couchscout, etc - have laid criticism at Garret's OC effectiveness as translated to Ws and Pts. (Stats tend to back it up).

Where does the buck stop?

What we need is an OC that nobody criticizes. Then we'll be set.

[CATCH17]

Laurent Robinson isn't having any problems getting the DBs off of him or with the routes it seems. Maybe the other receivers should focus on sucking less instead of complaining.

Because the defenses try and take away other options and our offense lets the defense dictate all for better or worse.

Thats why Witten is always open underneath and why Robinson makes a lot of his plays as well.

[ninja]

If Drew Pearson and Joe Namath met, I'm sure they would have a nice conversation about the present Cowboys and Jets.:)

Remember back in the day when the Cowboys OL would all rise and then get set in unison, like synchronized swimming. Maybe all they need to do is bring that back.;)

[Airbag]

What we need is an OC that nobody criticizes. Then we'll be set.

Hilarious!:laugh2:

[jobberone]

i defense of Red.... some of the WRs don't know some of the current routes or frequently run them incorrectly. adding more or making them more complex isn't a plan for success...not right away

And I agree w/t MASH. If a guy can't run the right routes...bench him, no matter who he is and no matter how upset the GM gets. You have to send a messege.

I'm worried this is part of that particular problem. Miles is out. Robinson is new. Dez is ????. I'm not so sure running more complex routes or adding more routes to the plan is going to work right now although he should add one or two wrinkles in every game plan esp in the RZ and on the GL.

I think it's a complex problem with many variables. Romo hurt. OL new and at times porous. Running game inconsistent and unable to run the ball in at the GL which seriously hampers Garrett. WRs out too often and some apparently running the wrong routes often. Players not knowing all the playbook for various reasons. Poorly developed WRs possibly. Cannot rule out questionable drafting either although I don't give that much weight myself.

[Chocolate Lab]

I've heard Drew talking about this live, and it's not like an all-out attack on Garrett. He just thinks there are a few other routes we could be using to get guys open and he wonders why we never use them.

He was pretty much the first guy to point out Dez's ridiculous bunny hop off the line and he was totally right about that, so I wouldn't attribute this to being some bitter old player. He sounds to me like the rest of us who just want the team to win and gets frustrated when they bog down.

[The Emperor]

Ray Lewis said in 08 that we run a very vanilla offense.

Yet that vanilla offense put up 17 points on his defense in the fourth quarter.

Some of you don't realize it's common to trash someone's system once you beat it. But I guess you'll believe anything bad about the Cowboys without evaluating it.

[Don Corleone]

This is basically the same offense that Norv Turner runs, and the one that Garrett cut his teeth on in Norv's offense as a player. It is designed to be vanilla, as some call it. The key to the offense is precise route running and timing between QB and WR. So yes, if the WRs don't run good routes, then the offense can't work properly.

As far as Laurent Robinson goes, he spent some time in San Diego before coming to Dallas, so he has familiarity with the offense.

[visionary]

This is basically the same offense that Norv Turner runs, and the one that Garrett cut his teeth on in Norv's offense as a player. It is designed to be vanilla, as some call it. The key to the offense is precise route running and timing between QB and WR. So yes, if the WRs don't run good routes, then the offense can't work properly.

As far as Laurent Robinson goes, he spent some time in San Diego before coming to Dallas, so he has familiarity with the offense.

and Norv is the one who said that Garrett cant be an OC
because being an OC is aobut more than having plays and calling them, it is about keeping the defense guessing and off balance

JG does not seem to have that "feel"

give oyu an example, when Jimmy Johnson (DC of Eagles) passed away and they hired his assistant to run the defense, the defense stunk

dont you think they kept most of the same plays, the players were the same

so what changed?

the 'playcalling'
the feel of knowing what to call in which situation knowing your players, knowing the tendencies of the other DC and knowing what has happened in the game so far

JG does not seem to have a good grasp of this

i still think he can be a good HC just not a good OC

[Don Corleone]

and Norv is the one who said that Garrett cant be an OC
because being an OC is aobut more than having plays and calling them, it is about keeping the defense guessing and off balance

JG does not seem to have that "feel"

give oyu an example, when Jimmy Johnson (DC of Eagles) passed away and they hired his assistant to run the defense, the defense stunk

dont you think they kept most of the same plays, the players were the same

so what changed?

the 'playcalling'

the feel of knowing what to call in which situation knowing your players, knowing the tendencies of the other DC and knowing what has happened in the game so far

JG does not seem to have a good grasp of this

i still think he can be a good HC just not a good OC

Oh I don't disagree at all. I was merely addressing the "vanilla" offense comment. Garrett routinely goes away from the hot hand, and his offense fizzles. Even down by 21 at Philly, I could see that Murray was gashing the Eagles defense, and was poised to break one. Yet Garrett chose to go pass happy. There was still plenty of time left in the game at that time, and he could have helped his defense by running the ball some more.

[visionary]

Oh I don't disagree at all. I was merely addressing the "vanilla" offense comment. Garrett routinely goes away from the hot hand, and his offense fizzles. Even down by 21 at Philly, I could see that Murray was gashing the Eagles defense, and was poised to break one. Yet Garrett chose to go pass happy. There was still plenty of time left in the game at that time, and he could have helped his defense by running the ball some more.

good point

a great example of exactly that occured earlier the same sunday

ravens were down by something like 24 points to the cardinals at the half

in the second half, they ran the ball like crazy
ray rice 3 TDs
joe flacco 0 TDs

guess who won the game

Ravens

Difference is they did not panic
we did

running not only allowed them to score but to keep the ball away from the cardinals

[ThreeSportStar80]

Garrett's playcalling has been the downfall of the offense the past 3 or 4 years honestly.