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tupperware
11-14-2011, 07:36 PM
Let's see if Rodgers can best Romo and his awesome QB rating from yesterday :)

tupperware
11-14-2011, 07:43 PM
Nice punt return.

realtick
11-14-2011, 07:44 PM
Uh, wow.

Heisenberg
11-14-2011, 07:44 PM
Well, that's one way of keeping Rodgers off the field.

TheCoolFan
11-14-2011, 07:45 PM
Well that's game.

Galian Beast
11-14-2011, 07:47 PM
Don't know how you don't run it on 3rd and 2nd with Adrian Peterson...

Galian Beast
11-14-2011, 07:47 PM
Notice the lack of respect of Ponder. They stack the box to stop Adrian Peterson.

MichaelWinicki
11-14-2011, 07:48 PM
Well that's game.

That's about the size of it.

tupperware
11-14-2011, 07:49 PM
Murray and Peterson are physically built almost the same way.

Galian Beast
11-14-2011, 07:50 PM
It really shows you how different Dallas and Minnesota are.

and how lucky we are to have the personnel we do. They can't do anything, because Ponder can't do anything about the pass rush. He needs to get the ball out quickly and punish them for what they're doing.

MarionBarberThe4th
11-14-2011, 07:51 PM
Clay Mathews has 4 sacks this year? I thought he was ferocious?

tupperware
11-14-2011, 07:52 PM
Clay Mathews has 4 sacks this year? I thought he was ferocious?
His sacks aren't what make him ferocious, it's all the hair.

MichaelWinicki
11-14-2011, 07:52 PM
Clay Mathews had 4 sacks this year? I thought he was ferocious?

8:51PM EST and I'm already sick of hearing about Green Bay.

They go up by more that 7 and I'm switching channels.

forever22
11-14-2011, 07:52 PM
How come Ware hits the QB accidently with his helmet and it's roughing? Matthews does the same thing while diving on the QB...nothing.

dboy214
11-14-2011, 07:54 PM
How come Ware hits the QB accidently with his helmet and it's roughing? Matthews does the same thing while diving on the QB...nothing.

good question.

damnit allen gets a sack.

MichaelWinicki
11-14-2011, 07:54 PM
Jared Allen "invented" the term "sack".

Yeah, right Jaws.

dadymat
11-14-2011, 07:56 PM
doesnt Rodgers have to have the ball for it to be a sack?

Galian Beast
11-14-2011, 07:56 PM
Jared Allen "invented" the term "sack".

Yeah, right Jaws.


absolutely moronic commentary... I couldn't believe he said it.

Ren
11-14-2011, 07:56 PM
How come Ware hits the QB accidently with his helmet and it's roughing? Matthews does the same thing while diving on the QB...nothing.

His Fabio like hair swaying in the wind covers up where his helmet hits

Galian Beast
11-14-2011, 07:56 PM
doesnt Rodgers have to have the ball for it to be a sack?

He retrieved the ball, Allen was in vicinity they gave him the sack.

dadymat
11-14-2011, 07:57 PM
He retrieved the ball, Allen was in vicinity they gave him the sack.
he grabbed ball after he was down...i dont think it should be a sack

Doomsay
11-14-2011, 07:59 PM
GB defenders were mugging the Vikings receivers in that first series - punt....TD.

tupperware
11-14-2011, 07:59 PM
Man Green Bay looks good.

MichaelWinicki
11-14-2011, 08:00 PM
Well time to watch the Hoarders on A&E... Far more interesting.

Wayne02
11-14-2011, 08:01 PM
Let's see if Rodgers can best Romo and his awesome QB rating from yesterday :)

Don't ever compare Tony Romo to Aaron Rodgers again.

tupperware
11-14-2011, 08:01 PM
Well time to watch the Hoarders on A&E... Far more interesting.
Packers are gonna start hoarding all the points, same thing.

realtick
11-14-2011, 08:01 PM
Green Bay's passing attack is runs so efficiently. Reminds me of 49ers in the 90s.

tecolote
11-14-2011, 08:01 PM
Man Green Bay looks good.

Rodgers is simply amazing.

dadymat
11-14-2011, 08:01 PM
Well time to watch the Hoarders on A&E... Far more interesting.

that show is disgusting...lol

chip_gilkey
11-14-2011, 08:02 PM
Well time to watch the Hoarders on A&E... Far more interesting.

I know what you mean. I considered skipping my Latin homework tonight to watch this game but might as well just do it. This game is over.

tupperware
11-14-2011, 08:02 PM
Don't ever compare Tony Romo to Aaron Rodgers again.
Wow are you really that thick? No comparison at all. Tony Romo had one of his best outings and I asked if Rodgers could best his rating. That's a testament to how good Rodgers is if I'm even entertaining the thought that he could best a QB rating so high.

Rodgers is just a better QB, point blank. I think Romo has gotten the jitters or something played behind this OL with the injuries he has had. Romo just doesn't appear to be a prototypical QB and we have to accept that. He's a freelancer who does really well when the plays break down.

That better?

Galian Beast
11-14-2011, 08:02 PM
Man Green Bay looks good.


I don't get this.

Green Bay doesn't look good Vikings look bad.

Things you can see from this game:

1. Vikings appear one dimensional on offense.
2. Green Bay belives this so they stack the box.
3. Vikings have no solution for this because they ARE one dimensional.
4. Vikings get forced to punt deep, and can't cover.
5. Vikings defense can't play Rodgers deep if he has a lead... he will pick them apart.

MichaelWinicki
11-14-2011, 08:02 PM
that show is disgusting...lol

Well yeah, but watching GB do what it's doing to Minny... is sorta disgusting too. LOL!

Cowboys&LakersFan
11-14-2011, 08:03 PM
Man Green Bay looks good.

Yeah, but we'd look good against this terrible Vikings team too.

chip_gilkey
11-14-2011, 08:03 PM
Romo commercial!!:laugh2:

dadymat
11-14-2011, 08:03 PM
Well yeah, but watching GB do what it's doing to Minny... is sorta disgusting too. LOL!

good point...:laugh1:

fifaguy
11-14-2011, 08:04 PM
Pretty sure that was Clay Matthews first sack of the year. This game is over already btw...

realtick
11-14-2011, 08:04 PM
I don't get this.

Green Bay doesn't look good Vikings look bad.

Things you can see from this game:

1. Vikings appear one dimensional on offense.
2. Green Bay belives this so they stack the box.
3. Vikings have no solution for this because they ARE one dimensional.
4. Vikings get forced to punt deep, and can't cover.
5. Vikings defense can't play Rodgers deep if he has a lead... he will pick them apart.

:facepalm:

Yes, Green Bay has had the pure luck of having all their opponents just play bad. They rode that same wave of luck to a Super Bowl last year and to the championship game the previous year as well.

tupperware
11-14-2011, 08:05 PM
I don't get this.

Green Bay doesn't look good Vikings look bad.

Things you can see from this game:

1. Vikings appear one dimensional on offense.
2. Green Bay belives this so they stack the box.
3. Vikings have no solution for this because they ARE one dimensional.
4. Vikings get forced to punt deep, and can't cover.
5. Vikings defense can't play Rodgers deep if he has a lead... he will pick them apart.
They look good, period.

ST play, walked down the field and they're undefeated. I don't give 2 craps who they're playing. We've been in games we should dominate and we don't dominate. Green Bay is winning all of their games.

Galian Beast
11-14-2011, 08:06 PM
Pretty sure that was Clay Matthews first sack of the year. This game is over already btw...

They no answer for 8-9 in the box.

Adrian Peterson is getting the Romo treatment but in reverse.

It's sad to see.

Down 14, unable to run... they have no options..

Heisenberg
11-14-2011, 08:06 PM
Nice throw by Ponder.

Bluestang
11-14-2011, 08:06 PM
Did Ponder just make them pay on a blitz?

The Panch
11-14-2011, 08:06 PM
Rodgers is phenomenal, but that offense overall is so in tune with each other.

From what I've seen from them this year, they just dont screw up.

fifaguy
11-14-2011, 08:06 PM
They no answer for 8-9 in the box.

Adrian Peterson is getting the Romo treatment but in reverse.

It's sad to see.

Down 14, unable to run... they have no options..

A Shiancoe showing! Nice. Was Joe Webb in there briefly??

chip_gilkey
11-14-2011, 08:07 PM
A Shiancoe showing! Nice. Was Joe Webb in there briefly??

Yeah they said he was in.

Galian Beast
11-14-2011, 08:07 PM
:facepalm:

Yes, Green Bay has had the pure luck of having all their opponents just play bad. They rode that same wave of luck to a Super Bowl last year and to the championship game the previous year as well.


I'm not saying that they aren't good. I'm just saying that pretty much anyone could do this to the Vikings. They are 2-6 for a reason. They have no pass attack.

Ponder has to make a choice, sell out for the big passes, and take some hits in the pocket.

tupperware
11-14-2011, 08:07 PM
Big flag there. /Madden

MichaelWinicki
11-14-2011, 08:08 PM
I'd love to see the uncut versions of these hoarder shows, where the therapist comes in and says, "You lazy POS! Get off your arse and start cleaning!"

Bluestang
11-14-2011, 08:09 PM
Who wins Packers or Patriots?

fifaguy
11-14-2011, 08:09 PM
Sooner or later it's going to be up to Green Bay's running game to have to win them a game... Than Green Bay might actually lose.

chip_gilkey
11-14-2011, 08:10 PM
I'd love to see the uncut versions of these hoarder shows, where the therapist comes in and says, "You lazy POS! Get off your arse and start cleaning!"

What is up with the link for a cure for thrush in your sig? lol

tupperware
11-14-2011, 08:11 PM
Wow that's close but I want to see the angle of the ball before it touched the ground at the end.

realtick
11-14-2011, 08:11 PM
Lol, so someone earlier this season said Charles Woodson was declining...

The Panch
11-14-2011, 08:12 PM
Who wins Packers or Patriots?
Seriously?

Rodgers doesnt make mistakes, while Brady was a turnover machine vs Buffalo, Dallas, and the Giants. He would've had atleast 2 picks last night if the Jets secondary can hold on.


Both their defense are getting drug up the field, but I dont trust New England's D with the game on the line at all.


Saints>Patriots

MichaelWinicki
11-14-2011, 08:12 PM
What is up with the link for a cure for thrush in your sig? lol

Ah!

Back-links grasshopper!

You need for better search engine positioning. If I'm going to post a lot here, it might as well benefit me. ;)

Lodeus
11-14-2011, 08:13 PM
Aaron 'the machine' Rodgers is pretty much unstoppable.

perrykemp
11-14-2011, 08:13 PM
Lol, so someone earlier this season said Charles Woodson was declining...

He IS declining... he can be had in coverage these days....

However saying that, the dude is on pace for 10-11 interceptions this year because he is the quintessential junk yard dog CB/Safety/LB/Whatever they call him these days.

He is a future HOFer and I love watching him play the game.

fifaguy
11-14-2011, 08:13 PM
What's under review?

Cowboys&LakersFan
11-14-2011, 08:13 PM
Definitely not an interception.

realtick
11-14-2011, 08:14 PM
Ah!

Back-links grasshopper!

You need for better search engine positioning. If I'm going to post a lot here, it might as well benefit me. ;)

What is a back-link?

Texas_Pete
11-14-2011, 08:14 PM
I don't get this.

Green Bay doesn't look good Vikings look bad.

Things you can see from this game:

1. Vikings appear one dimensional on offense.
2. Green Bay belives this so they stack the box.
3. Vikings have no solution for this because they ARE one dimensional.
4. Vikings get forced to punt deep, and can't cover.
5. Vikings defense can't play Rodgers deep if he has a lead... he will pick them apart.

Good post. As great as AP is, if he even sniffs 100 yards tonight, I'm not believing all of the hype. Dallas is not one dimensional. Not by a long shot. Our running game is clicking and when that happens JG can open up the entire playbook. The Pack is 28th against the pass. I believe we will dominate time of possession and I trust that our receivers would have their way with their DBs. I'm not crowning them just yet.

fifaguy
11-14-2011, 08:15 PM
Definitely not an interception.

Good. I'd like the game to be at least competitive for awhile

MichaelWinicki
11-14-2011, 08:16 PM
What is a back-link?

It's a link that appears on someone else's website that back-links to your website.

For Internet marketing, it is a good thing.

fifaguy
11-14-2011, 08:17 PM
No good on the fg :o:

perrykemp
11-14-2011, 08:17 PM
. The Pack is 28th against the pass..

I believe they are #1 in interceptions and they are in the top 3rd league in QB rating allowed.

Yards are interesting but the interceptions and opposing QB rating are much more telling.

Galian Beast
11-14-2011, 08:17 PM
Sooner or later it's going to be up to Green Bay's running game to have to win them a game... Than Green Bay might actually lose.

Exactly.

Teams like Green Bay and New England dont worry me. It's teams like Houston and Pittsburgh.

perrykemp
11-14-2011, 08:22 PM
Exactly.

Teams like Green Bay and New England dont worry me. It's teams like Houston and Pittsburgh.

Seems to me the Packers were able to run the ball late in the season last year and in the playoffs when the wanted to / needed to due to weather.

Grant and Starks aren't All-Pro or anything, but they aren't bad. I believe Grant was the #2 rusher in the NFC from 2007-2009 and Starks was very good in the playoffs/Superbowl last year.

Wayne02
11-14-2011, 08:22 PM
Having Randall Cobb as their #5 WR is just wrong.

The Emperor
11-14-2011, 08:22 PM
I hate the Packers. They're what I thought our offense would be.

realtick
11-14-2011, 08:22 PM
It's a link that appears on someone else's website that back-links to your website.

For Internet marketing, it is a good thing.

How much extra income do you make off it? Do you get paid per click or is it just for marketing purposes?

realtick
11-14-2011, 08:23 PM
Having Randall Cobb as their #5 WR is just wrong.

We have AOA sir.

Cowboys&LakersFan
11-14-2011, 08:24 PM
Exactly.

Teams like Green Bay and New England dont worry me. It's teams like Houston and Pittsburgh.

Houston is done without Schaub. I agree Steelers are legit. Green Bay is clearly the best team. After that there's several teams who you can argue for being #2. San Francisco, New Orleans, New York Giants, Dallas, Pittsburgh, New England, and Baltimore.

mgcowboy
11-14-2011, 08:24 PM
I know Rodgers is really good and all that..
But you have to give credit to WRs and coaches

This offense is a well coached offense..It's amazing how WR keep getting
WIDE open and run their route very well

I'd say coaching 1..WRs 2, AR 3

When you have good coaching and play calling like them..WRs who get
wide open, not one mind you, two or three of them
Then...even Tim Tebow would look a great QB :laugh2:

:cool:

Cowboys&LakersFan
11-14-2011, 08:25 PM
Having Randall Cobb as their #5 WR is just wrong.

Having Laurent Robinson as your #3 is just wrong. Only way that happens is when you have Miles Austin and Dez Bryant.

Bluestang
11-14-2011, 08:25 PM
The Packers remind me of the Payton led Colts. They use the run game as to no be totally one dimensional but they use the pass to move the sticks. That being said even Payton had trouble when good teams weren't afraid of the playaction or run and took advantage.

jblaze2004
11-14-2011, 08:26 PM
I know Rodgers is really good and all that..
But you have to give credit to WRs and coaches

This offense is a well coached offense..It's amazing how WR keep getting
WIDE open and run their route very well

I'd say coaching 1..WRs 2, AR 3

When you have good coaching and play calling like them..WRs who get
wide open, not one mind you, two or three of them
Then...even Tim Tebow would look a great QB :laugh2:

:cool:

you must haven't heard tebow is a great QB:eek:

MichaelWinicki
11-14-2011, 08:27 PM
How much extra income do you make off it? Do you get paid per click or is it just for marketing purposes?

Just marketing purposes.

dboy214
11-14-2011, 08:28 PM
ugh jared allen keeps racking up sacks.

The Panch
11-14-2011, 08:29 PM
Rodgers is shook. The Vikings keep blowing this line up from every direction.

Bluestang
11-14-2011, 08:29 PM
So they go for it on 4th and 5 but not they kick the FG? If you want to be agressive stay agressive...

Wayne02
11-14-2011, 08:29 PM
Having Laurent Robinson as your #3 is just wrong. Only way that happens is when you have Miles Austin and Dez Bryant.

There's a big difference between a #3 and a #5 WR

The Emperor
11-14-2011, 08:30 PM
Houston is done without Schaub. I agree Steelers are legit. Green Bay is clearly the best team. After that there's several teams who you can argue for being #2. San Francisco, New Orleans, New York Giants, Dallas, Pittsburgh, New England, and Baltimore.

They got swept by the Ravens.

They're only going to cruise to good playoff positioning because A) the Ravens will blow it and B) the Steelers have a cupcake schedule right now.

perrykemp
11-14-2011, 08:36 PM
Rodgers is shook. The Vikings keep blowing this line up from every direction.

Packers OL is actually very very mediocre.

Bluestang
11-14-2011, 08:36 PM
The Steelers have problems along their offensive line. Their rushing game is non-existent because of those problems. Rothelisberger is having a bad year compared to last year and he has been sacked 31 times so far this year. Depsite their record they are 1-2 in the division, lots of red flags there.

dboy214
11-14-2011, 08:37 PM
ugh erik walden looks really good out there.

casmith07
11-14-2011, 08:38 PM
The Vikings are dreadful.

Bluestang
11-14-2011, 08:38 PM
ugh erik walden looks really good out there.


Rue!!!

reddyuta
11-14-2011, 08:40 PM
Allen and Ware are neck and neck for the new record.

dboy214
11-14-2011, 08:40 PM
Rue!!!

i cant help it! :(

especially when you consider we'll most likely be looking for a new OLB next year.

StylisticS
11-14-2011, 08:42 PM
Can the Vikings at least make this competitive. Or try.

The Panch
11-14-2011, 08:42 PM
Packers OL is actually very very mediocre.
They're not "very very mediocre". Id say below average


They are the one thing that can be the downfall of that offense. Rodgers mobility can only bail them out so many teams.

fifaguy
11-14-2011, 08:43 PM
Can the Vikings at least make this competitive. Or try.

I think they are trying... :confused:

Bluestang
11-14-2011, 08:44 PM
i cant help it! :(

especially when we'll most likely be looking for a new OLB next year.


Don't rule out Spencer being gone, the guy exceeds his responsiblities. This whole thing about Spencer being not good enough is nuts. He plays the run, contain, blitz in that order...think about that for a second.

Cowboys&LakersFan
11-14-2011, 08:45 PM
Man the Vikings have fallen off a cliff. Hard to believe this Vikings team destroyed us 34-3 just 22 months ago.

Lodeus
11-14-2011, 08:47 PM
I wonder when people will start to grow tired of the Packers and begin to hate them. Much like people hate Dallas and NE.

fifaguy
11-14-2011, 08:49 PM
How many rushes will AP have by the time this game is over? 35?

perrykemp
11-14-2011, 08:50 PM
I wonder when people will start to grow tired of the Packers and begin to hate them. Much like people hate Dallas and NE.

A lot of the hate for NE has to do with Bill Belinceck.

McCarthy is about as anonymous of a Superbowl winning coach I've ever seen.

Who is there to hate on the Packers?

anava
11-14-2011, 08:50 PM
Why do they try to feature Harvin when you have AP?

Clove
11-14-2011, 08:51 PM
Greenbay has a horrible offensive line. How they win, I have no clue.

cfin5256
11-14-2011, 08:52 PM
Discount Double Check!

Don't know why I'm thinking about that.

Bluestang
11-14-2011, 08:53 PM
Spread offense with a precise QB and great WR core.

perrykemp
11-14-2011, 08:53 PM
Greenbay has a horrible offensive line. How they win, I have no clue.

Rogers.

In 2009 he was the most sacked QB in the NFL. Normally that would equate to a bad year for a QB.

He had 30 TDs vs only 7 INTs that year...

Kinda crazy.

StylisticS
11-14-2011, 08:54 PM
Romo doing sportscenter commercials again.

The Panch
11-14-2011, 08:56 PM
Romo doing sportscenter commercials again.
Old one

jblaze2004
11-14-2011, 08:56 PM
jeez jared allen might get the sack title this year.:eek:

that guy is relentless. How many sacks do allen have?

Bluestang
11-14-2011, 08:57 PM
LOL good job Starks, Rodgers even yelled at you to stay inbounds.

MarionBarberThe4th
11-14-2011, 08:57 PM
Jared Allen hoping his celebrations will lead to someone incorrectly attributing a sack to him

casmith07
11-14-2011, 08:57 PM
Color me fairly unimpressed with the Packers tonight.

Lodeus
11-14-2011, 08:58 PM
A lot of the hate for NE has to do with Bill Belinceck.

McCarthy is about as anonymous of a Superbowl winning coach I've ever seen.

Who is there to hate on the Packers?

A lot of people hate Brady just because he's good. Same thing can happen to Rodgers.

casmith07
11-14-2011, 08:58 PM
Jared Allen hoping his celebrations will lead to someone incorrectly attributing a sack to him

Dude I thought they exact same thing!

perrykemp
11-14-2011, 08:58 PM
jeez jared allen might get the sack title this year.:eek:

that guy is relentless. How many sacks do allen have?

For whatever reason, the Packers can NEVER handle him.

Couple years ago I think he had 7.5 sacks vs Rogers in two games...

dboy214
11-14-2011, 08:58 PM
Don't rule out Spencer being gone, the guy exceeds his responsiblities. This whole thing about Spencer being not good enough is nuts. He plays the run, contain, blitz in that order...think about that for a second.

i actually appreciate Spencer more than most. i just dont trust him to play hard after receiving a big contract. i can easily see him relaxing once he gets paid.

Bluestang
11-14-2011, 08:59 PM
Color me fairly unimpressed with the Packers tonight.


I think the Pack are in cruise control.

dboy214
11-14-2011, 08:59 PM
Jared Allen hoping his celebrations will lead to someone incorrectly attributing a sack to him

:lmao2:

Galian Beast
11-14-2011, 09:01 PM
This is a good lesson for a lot of offenses...

When your defense can play well, you have to keep the game in front of you.

You can't turn the ball over, and you can't give up on the run.

Aikmaniac
11-14-2011, 09:01 PM
I think the Pack are in cruise control.

Exactly.

No use opening up the playbook unless they have to.

dadymat
11-14-2011, 09:02 PM
because we are all watching MNF cause we care about college BBall

MarionBarberThe4th
11-14-2011, 09:03 PM
jeez jared allen might get the sack title this year.:eek:

that guy is relentless. How many sacks do allen have?

In this game 1. Although he really just cleaned up what Kevin Williams started. Thought they could've shared it.

chip_gilkey
11-14-2011, 09:05 PM
Discount Double Check!

Don't know why I'm thinking about that.

that commercial has been stuck in my head for 3 days. Brilliant marketing for whatever reason it just sticks in your head.

Steve_Deadload
11-14-2011, 09:05 PM
In this game 1. Although he really just cleaned up what Kevin Williams started. Thought they could've shared it.
He might get half for the one Winfield finished.

perrykemp
11-14-2011, 09:22 PM
Anybody else find it surprising the Packers line up in wishbone?

I see them in every now and then and it just seems so out of place in the NFL.

jblaze2004
11-14-2011, 09:24 PM
packers are too good for penalties being called on them?

nelson pushes the cb to the ground no flag.

on the sack clay mathews had he was helmet to helmet with ponder.....no flag.

I guess some teams the refs swallow the whistles for.

fifaguy
11-14-2011, 09:25 PM
Anyone else dislike the Packers immensely?

Clove
11-14-2011, 09:26 PM
This is what you're supposed to do to trashy teams. Green bay, no problem for the new look Boys. (when we're on)

Aikbach
11-14-2011, 09:27 PM
Packers are set up for a huge face fall this season, I smell 2007 Cowboys or Patriots all over them.

Teague31
11-14-2011, 09:28 PM
haven't all heard? Gb is the greatest team ever.. rodgers is the best QB ever.

Lodeus
11-14-2011, 09:29 PM
Packers are set up for a huge face fall this season, I smell 2007 Cowboys or Patriots all over them.

I've been telling people that for a while now. I think they'll lose their first playoff game.

fifaguy
11-14-2011, 09:29 PM
haven't all heard? Gb is the greatest team ever.. rodgers is the best QB ever.

This is what is getting old. lol

fifaguy
11-14-2011, 09:30 PM
I've been telling people that for a while now. I think they'll lose their first playoff game.

Idk about the first but I don't see them winning the SB.

perrykemp
11-14-2011, 09:31 PM
I've been telling people that for a while now. I think they'll lose their first playoff game.

If it's at Lambeau (and it likely will be) in the elements, I'm not sure this Packers precision offense will operate effectively.

fifaguy
11-14-2011, 09:33 PM
I'd like to see them play a tough AFC team, like Wade Phillip's Texans D

gbrittain
11-14-2011, 09:34 PM
I think I just might laugh really hard when they win home field advantage throughout the playoffs and potentially have to play a grind it out game on the ground due to bad weather.

This Green Bay team the way they play strike me as a team that will be better on the road in a dome or great weather than at home in miserable weather.

Cold weather won't be a problem but anything that prevents them from slinging the ball around could be deadly.

perrykemp
11-14-2011, 09:35 PM
I'd like to see them play a tough AFC team, like Wade Phillip's Texans D

Who are we kidding here? They beat a very tough AFC Defense last year in the Superbowl (Pittsburg). They can beat you a lot of ways.

Are they perfect? No. They have weaknesses.

Frankly, they seem to be playing a bit below their talent level on defense.

perrykemp
11-14-2011, 09:38 PM
I think I just might laugh really hard when they win home field advantage throughout the playoffs and potentially have to play a grind it out game on the ground due to bad weather.

This Green Bay team the way they play strike me as a team that will be better on the road in a dome or great weather than at home in miserable weather.

Cold weather won't be a problem but anything that prevents them from slinging the ball around could be deadly.

That's my thought too.

2007 Packers lost the NFC Championship game to the Giants because, to a certain extent, their passing game was ineffective in the extremely miserable conditions.

Lodeus
11-14-2011, 09:38 PM
I'm also curious to see how long they can keep this team together. I mean with Rodgers they are gonna be really no matter what, but lose some major offensive and defensive weapons to free agency how good will they be?

dboy214
11-14-2011, 09:41 PM
mike mccarthy is an amazing OC.

perrykemp
11-14-2011, 09:41 PM
I'm also curious to see how long they can keep this team together. I mean with Rodgers they are gonna be really no matter what, but lose some major offensive and defensive weapons to free agency how good will they be?

They maniacally focus on resigning their own talent and almost completely eschew signing other team's Free Agents.

fifaguy
11-14-2011, 09:41 PM
I'm also curious to see how long they can keep this team together. I mean with Rodgers they are gonna be really no matter what, but lose some major offensive and defensive weapons to free agency how good will they be?

Good point. I think they did the least this offseason, keeping most everyone.. except for Cullen Jenkins.

dboy214
11-14-2011, 09:42 PM
wow these schemes are ridiculous.

perrykemp
11-14-2011, 09:44 PM
wow these schemes are ridiculous.

McCarthy doesn't get half of the credit of Sean Payton and IMHO, he is <probably> the better play caller.

dboy214
11-14-2011, 09:44 PM
I'm also curious to see how long they can keep this team together. I mean with Rodgers they are gonna be really no matter what, but lose some major offensive and defensive weapons to free agency how good will they be?

i dont think it really matters as long as they keep drafting the way they've been.

they said 57 of the 63 on the roster have only played for the Packers.

they have a top of the line GM and OC....two things we are lacking.

The Panch
11-14-2011, 09:46 PM
If it's at Lambeau (and it likely will be) in the elements, I'm not sure this Packers precision offense will operate effectively.

This.

And with that line, they're not grounding and pounding anybody.


That D is gonna have to win them atleast one game in the playoffs.

CowboysFanSince88
11-14-2011, 09:46 PM
That's my thought too.

2007 Packers lost the NFC Championship game to the Giants because, to a certain extent, their passing game was ineffective in the extremely miserable conditions.

and you forgot they had Brett INTERCEPTION Favre

dboy214
11-14-2011, 09:49 PM
McCarthy doesn't get half of the credit of Sean Payton and IMHO, he is <probably> the better play caller.

i agree. notice how on all of the dumpoff throws to the rbs, there is always a lead blocker in front. that's how they keep getting 10 yds on all of these dumpoffs.

ScipioCowboy
11-14-2011, 09:53 PM
Mystery solved, people.

The source of the extreme specialness of Lambeau Field is a woman named Bea Florcen.

perrykemp
11-14-2011, 09:57 PM
Mystery solved, people.

The source of the extreme specialness of Lambeau Field is a woman named Bea Florcen.

I wonder how many Cowboys fans walk to the stadium for each Cowboy's game?

ScipioCowboy
11-14-2011, 09:58 PM
I wonder how many Cowboys fans walk to the stadium for each Cowboy's game?

All of them?

I don't think anyone actually lives in the stadium. :D

ScipioCowboy
11-14-2011, 10:01 PM
I wonder how Aaron Rodgers splits his time between the Packers and NBC studios. Being the Packers quarterback and filming episodes of The Office must be exhausting.

ThreeSportStar80
11-14-2011, 10:05 PM
The Packers are definitely the team to beat no question about it...

perrykemp
11-14-2011, 10:08 PM
Looks like another 145+ QB Rating game for Rogers.

Lodeus
11-14-2011, 10:09 PM
Them Lambeau leaps are annoying.

Clove
11-14-2011, 10:09 PM
Monday night football is not what it used to be.

fifaguy
11-14-2011, 10:10 PM
Aaron padding his stats. Sometimes I wonder why they even play him the whole game. Mine as well save him for the playoffs. Didn't he get pretty hurt 2 years ago, Matt Flynn came in, Rodgers came back for the playoffs than he couldn't get it going and they lost?

ScipioCowboy
11-14-2011, 10:10 PM
Monday night football is not what it used to be.

The decline began in earnest once it left ABC.

The30YardSlant
11-14-2011, 10:10 PM
Aaron Rodgers is out of this world good. Nobody has ever played QB better than he is playing it right now. We are watching historic levels of greatness here.

I just don't see anybody beating them this year. Even the Colts and Patriots teams of the last decade that at times look unbeatable werent this efficient and deadly across the board.

Lodeus
11-14-2011, 10:10 PM
^I think its just the way the game is played these days.

Rob Gronkowski and Aaron Rodgers are amazing to have in fantasy football.

fifaguy
11-14-2011, 10:11 PM
Monday night football is not what it used to be.

It's been pretty horrible all year. These games aren't even competitive. Lions crushed the bears a few weeks back. Haven't the Colts been absolutely embarassed one or two times as well?

MarionBarberThe4th
11-14-2011, 10:12 PM
Peyton manning almost reluctantly took the 2009 colts to 16-0. Never forget.

The30YardSlant
11-14-2011, 10:16 PM
Peyton manning almost reluctantly took the 2009 colts to 16-0. Never forget.

Manning has never played QB as well as Rodgers has so far this season, and those Colts teams, good as they were, pale in comparison to what Green Bay is doing right now.

I don't think it's a stretch to say that this Packers team is the best the NFL has seen since the early-mid 90s Cowboys and 49ers teams. They'd already be a SB contender with Rodgers alone, but they have so many pass catching and defensive weapons as well.

TheCoolFan
11-14-2011, 10:18 PM
I don't see how you can stop them. The only way is to rough up their WRs early and often at the line of scrimmage. Don't be afraid to commit a penalty, as long as you get a good hit on them at the line of scrimmage, it will be worth it. Anything to disrupt the rhythm of their offense. As the game goes on, it will start to wear them down and they'll have less explosion coming out of their breaks.

dadymat
11-14-2011, 10:21 PM
Manning has never played QB as well as Rodgers has so far this season, and those Colts teams, good as they were, pale in comparison to what Green Bay is doing right now.

I don't think it's a stretch to say that this Packers team is the best the NFL has seen since the early-mid 90s Cowboys and 49ers teams. They'd already be a SB contender with Rodgers alone, but they have so many pass catching and defensive weapons as well.


just stop.....everyone needs to stop......Rodgers is having a phenomenal year....but he didnt invent football, he isnt better than Peyton , and he isnt the greatest ever.....

The30YardSlant
11-14-2011, 10:21 PM
I don't see how you can stop them. The only way is to rough up their WRs early and often at the line of scrimmage. Don't be afraid to commit a penalty, as long as you get a good hit on them at the line of scrimmage, it will be worth it. Anything to disrupt the rhythm of their offense. As the game goes on, it will start to wear them down and they'll have less explosion coming out of their breaks.

Except that Rodgers appears to make the right read every single play. You can play PERFECT defense and there will still always be at least one receiver open, if only for a moment, on every play. Defense is predicated on QBs being imperfect, and right now Aaron Rodgers is playing perfect football.

And of course, if you somehow do the impossible and cover every route, including the checkdowns, he'll just take off and run. Right now, he's as unstoppable as any player I've ever seen in any sport.

The30YardSlant
11-14-2011, 10:24 PM
just stop.....everyone needs to stop......Rodgers is having a phenomenal year....but he didnt invent football, he isnt better than Peyton , and he isnt the greatest ever.....

Right now, he is absolutely better than Peyton. He is playing better right now than Peyton or anyone else has ever played the position. Now, of course he is not the greatest ever...yet. If he keeps up this kind of play, or even something close to it, for a long period of time he will absolutely be in the greatest ever discussion one day.

I really don't think a lot of people truly grasp the extent of what he is doing when they watch him this year. Time always seems to be the thing that gives events their greatness, and years from now people will look back and say how they were there when Aaron Rodgers put on the greatest display of quarterbacking ever. Many people just don't seem to grasp greatness as it happens, though.

MarionBarberThe4th
11-14-2011, 10:25 PM
Manning has never played QB as well as Rodgers has so far this season, and those Colts teams, good as they were, pale in comparison to what Green Bay is doing right now.

I don't think it's a stretch to say that this Packers team is the best the NFL has seen since the early-mid 90s Cowboys and 49ers teams. They'd already be a SB contender with Rodgers alone, but they have so many pass catching and defensive weapons as well.

Its 2 years later , but still. From 16-0 to 0-16 without your QB.

I think Matt Flynn or Curtis painter could win some games with this packers team.

I'm not going to try and disparage the perfection of Rodgers this year. Just saying we've seen some sick QB play this era.

perrykemp
11-14-2011, 10:25 PM
just stop.....everyone needs to stop......Rodgers is having a phenomenal year....but he didnt invent football, he isnt better than Peyton , and he isnt the greatest ever.....

No, but he is in the midst of the greatest single season any QB has ever had in the history of the NFL.

dboy214
11-14-2011, 10:28 PM
idk how you beat this team guys. i dont want to sound like i'm in love with them, but the vikings got good pressure on rodgers today, but still got blown out.

realtick
11-14-2011, 10:31 PM
just stop.....everyone needs to stop......Rodgers is having a phenomenal year....but he didnt invent football, he isnt better than Peyton , and he isnt the greatest ever.....

What exactly would make Peyton better than Rogers?

fifaguy
11-14-2011, 10:31 PM
idk how you beat this team guys. i dont want to sound like i'm in love with them, but the vikings got good pressure on rodgers today, but still got blown out.

Vikes can't man cover on defense. And Vikes offense is very predictable with rookie Ponder in there.

The30YardSlant
11-14-2011, 10:32 PM
Its 2 years later , but still. From 16-0 to 0-16 without your QB.

I think Matt Flynn or Curtis painter could win some games with this packers team.

I'm not going to try and disparage the perfection of Rodgers this year. Just saying we've seen some sick QB play this era.

I agree, which makes the fact that this is as good as we've ever seen even more amazing.

Rodgers is now on pace to break almost every tangible single season passing record that exists. TDs, completion %, yards, rating...he may also tie Brady's record for fewest INTs and will threaten the average yards per attempt record.

Jammer
11-14-2011, 10:35 PM
From the Patriots first 8 games of their undefeated regular season compared to the Packers first 8 games of this year:

Yards: Rodgers: 2,619; Brady, 2,431

Touchdowns: Brady, 30; Rodgers, 24

Interceptions: Brady, 2; Rodgers, 3;

Completion percentage: Brady, 75.2; Rodgers, 72.5

OB rating: Brady, 131.1; Rodgers, 129.7

Yards per completion: Brady, 11.51; Rodgers, 9.88


It seems we've seen good QB play before not too far in the past. How soon we forget.

FloridaRob
11-14-2011, 10:38 PM
As a packers fan for 44 years and a football fan over yhat same
Period, I can tell you he has everything you want in a qb. I keep waiting for him to have a bad game and it doesn't happen. Since he has been a starter, the worse game he has played was against the bucs In Tampa. And in that game he made a number of wow throws. as someone said tonight, he is not on a roll, this is his game. only time will tell how great he is but I will tell you right now he is better than starr and favre and I loved favre before he became a buttered old goat.

perrykemp
11-14-2011, 10:38 PM
From the Patriots first 8 games of their undefeated regular season compared to the Packers first 8 games of this year:

Yards: Rodgers: 2,619; Brady, 2,431

Touchdowns: Brady, 30; Rodgers, 24

Interceptions: Brady, 2; Rodgers, 3;

Completion percentage: Brady, 75.2; Rodgers, 72.5

OB rating: Brady, 131.1; Rodgers, 129.7

Yards per completion: Brady, 11.51; Rodgers, 9.88


It seems we've seen good QB play before not too far in the past. How soon we forget.

True.

Don't forget Roger's rushing yards / rushing TDs.

Hoofbite
11-14-2011, 10:41 PM
just stop.....everyone needs to stop......Rodgers is having a phenomenal year....but he didnt invent football, he isnt better than Peyton , and he isnt the greatest ever.....

Up to this point, this is the best season any QB has ever had.

May have spoke too soon. Brady's first 9 were high as well. At this point though, we're splitting hairs.

The30YardSlant
11-14-2011, 10:42 PM
From the Patriots first 8 games of their undefeated regular season compared to the Packers first 8 games of this year:

Yards: Rodgers: 2,619; Brady, 2,431

Touchdowns: Brady, 30; Rodgers, 24

Interceptions: Brady, 2; Rodgers, 3;

Completion percentage: Brady, 75.2; Rodgers, 72.5

OB rating: Brady, 131.1; Rodgers, 129.7

Yards per completion: Brady, 11.51; Rodgers, 9.88


It seems we've seen good QB play before not too far in the past. How soon we forget.

The biggest difference is that Rodgers is a complete QB, he has great mobility that Brady lacks.

Jammer
11-14-2011, 10:43 PM
The biggest difference is that Rodgers is a complete QB, he has great mobility that Brady lacks.

This is the first time I've ever heard of Brady not being considered a complete QB.

tupperware
11-14-2011, 11:26 PM
Vikes can't man cover on defense. And Vikes offense is very predictable with rookie Ponder in there.
So in spite of some decent pressure opposing offenses have to score 35+ points? 45?

Unreal..

The30YardSlant
11-14-2011, 11:37 PM
This is the first time I've ever heard of Brady not being considered a complete QB.

Would you consider an outfielder with a great arm and a strong bat but poor base running skills complete?

TheCoolFan
11-15-2011, 01:16 AM
With Brady and Manning, they were always great in the pocket but the way to get to them was to pressure them early and often. Peyton used to have some trouble with 3-4 defenses and Brady's always gotten flustered after taking hits. With Brees, he is mobile in the pocket and knows how to avoid sacks but he's undersized and not as much of a threat to run as Rodgers is. Plus Rodgers is better at throwing on the run. He's just too good overall, there's no weakness in his game, individually. Until we see a team be able to beat him, there's no blueprint to stopping him yet so it's all just trial and error right now for defenses.

Sam I Am
11-15-2011, 07:30 AM
Did anyone actually watch that game?

The Vikings GM is an idiot.

burmafrd
11-15-2011, 07:48 AM
Rodgers is the flavor of the year this year. that is all.

ThreeSportStar80
11-15-2011, 10:34 AM
That team is scary good right now...

Hoofbite
11-15-2011, 10:52 AM
Rodgers is the flavor of the year this year. that is all.

This is not his only season of playing well. He's just playing insane right now.

Hoofbite
11-15-2011, 10:54 AM
Would you consider an outfielder with a great arm and a strong bat but poor base running skills complete?

I would if he hit the piss out of the ball and trotted the bases all the time.

Basically what Brady does. He reads and gets the ball out so quick his lack of mobility is basically a nonissue.

REDVOLUTION
11-15-2011, 12:29 PM
As a packers fan for 44 years and a football fan over yhat same
Period, I can tell you he has everything you want in a qb. I keep waiting for him to have a bad game and it doesn't happen. Since he has been a starter, the worse game he has played was against the bucs In Tampa. And in that game he made a number of wow throws. as someone said tonight, he is not on a roll, this is his game. only time will tell how great he is but I will tell you right now he is better than starr and favre and I loved favre before he became a buttered old goat.

I have to agree here.

I think he will surpass Favre in many ways. Dont even want to bother listing them. He is all business and Favre was drama and veiled "me me me-ism"

I really think that the Packers are primed to repeat.



This is not his only season of playing well. He's just playing insane right now.

He is. It looks like there is no end in sight.


I know, I know.. any given Sunday. But still...