Thursday Twitter Cowboys practice reports

[cowboyjoe]

espn_macmahonTim MacMahon
Akwasi Owusu-Ansah and Kevin Ogletree are also getting kick return reps.

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calvinwatkinsCalvin Watkins
AOA and Ogletree returning kickoffs.

espn_macmahonTim MacMahon
Head coaches Jason Garrett and Jerry Jones have said they don't plan to use Felix Jones on kick returns, but he's working there now.


calvinwatkinsCalvin Watkins
Montrae Holland back at practice. Missed things yesterday with the flu.

6 minutes ago

toddarcherTodd Archer
Chris Jones re-signed to practice squad: IRVING, Texas -- The Cowboys were able to sneak punter Chris Jones thro... http://es.pn/rKSNGY

7 minutes ago

[fifaguy]

espn_macmahonTim MacMahon
Akwasi Owusu-Ansah and Kevin Ogletree are also getting kick return reps.

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calvinwatkinsCalvin Watkins
AOA and Ogletree returning kickoffs.

espn_macmahonTim MacMahon
Head coaches Jason Garrett and Jerry Jones have said they don't plan to use Felix Jones on kick returns, but he's working there now.


calvinwatkinsCalvin Watkins
Montrae Holland back at practice. Missed things yesterday with the flu.

6 minutes ago

toddarcherTodd Archer
Chris Jones re-signed to practice squad: IRVING, Texas -- The Cowboys were able to sneak punter Chris Jones thro... http://es.pn/rKSNGY

7 minutes ago

What is with cutting that punter Chris Jones and Daniel Loper and resigning them 8 different times..

[cowboyjoe]

dont know buddy, its weird isnt it:

toddarcherTodd Archer
No sign of FB Tony Fiammetta at practice. Was sick yesterday. Also no Jon Kitna. Montrae Holland n Kyle Kosier back 2 work

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calvinwatkinsCalvin Watkins
Five-star: Cowboys run game will succeed: Five-star question: Will the Cowboys hit their average of 177.0 yards ... http://es.pn/rNKuu0

[chip_gilkey]

Man tons of people have been sick the past couple weeks.

[cowboyjoe]

Man tons of people have been sick the past couple weeks.

its the flu, wonder if the cowboys players took their flu shot:starspin

[cowboyjoe]

BryanBroaddusBryan Broaddus
Lee was back to the full hand and wrist cast today. Yesterday, he had one that was just protecting the wrist. Holland back at practice.

[JonJon]

espn_macmahonTim MacMahon
Head coaches Jason Garrett and Jerry Jones have said they don't plan to use Felix Jones on kick returns, but he's working there now.

I really don't see a reason why they wouldn't put him there. He has been explosive there in the past and the team needs to get him the ball in space. I think he is the best option we have.

[garrett316]

espn_macmahonTim MacMahon
espn_macmahonTim MacMahon
Head coaches Jason Garrett and Jerry Jones have said they don't plan to use Felix Jones on kick returns, but he's working there now.





:lmao2:

[03EBZ06]

espn_macmahonTim MacMahon
Head coaches Jason Garrett and Jerry Jones have said they don't plan to use Felix Jones on kick returns, but he's working there now.

Cute. :rolleyes:

[AbeBeta]

its the flu, wonder if the cowboys players took their flu shot:starspin

It continues to shock me that players are either too lazy or too stupid to get a freaking flu shot.

[zrinkill]

espn_macmahonTim MacMahon
Head coaches Jason Garrett and Jerry Jones have said they don't plan to use Felix Jones on kick returns, but he's working there now.

:rolleyes:

[jrumann59]

It continues to shock me that players are either too lazy or too stupid to get a freaking flu shot.

You do know some people do not believe in them. There are people that believe the human immune system is better when left to fend for itself for the most part.

[chip_gilkey]

You do know some people do not believe in them. There are people that believe the human immune system is better when left to fend for itself for the most part.

Also I've known a surprising amount of people who got the shot and actually ended up getting sick because they got the shot.

[ThreeSportStar80]

You do know some people do not believe in them. There are people that believe the human immune system is better when left to fend for itself for the most part.

Also I've known a surprising amount of people who got the shot and actually ended up getting sick because they got the shot.

I agree with both statements...

[shockandroll]

What is with cutting that punter Chris Jones and Daniel Loper and resigning them 8 different times..

Because our punter is battling nerve damage in his foot and we might need Jones again. They must see some potential in Loper but we don't need him at the moment so he gets cut when we need the roster spot.

[shockandroll]

Also I've known a surprising amount of people who got the shot and actually ended up getting sick because they got the shot.

Yeah, not true. It's a dead virus so you can't get the flu from it. But, they basically guess on the recipe so if they get it wrong, it's not very effective and you can get sick anyway. Not from the shot but because the shot does not protect you if they got the cocktail wrong.

The other issue is since you get the shot at a doctors office or clinic, people are coming in who are already sick and you might catch it while there. Again, not from the shot but cause some sick dude sneezed and did not wash his hands before grabbing the same door knob you did.

If they got sick after the shot, it could have been lots of reasons but it was not the shot itself.

[AbeBeta]

You do know some people do not believe in them. There are people that believe the human immune system is better when left to fend for itself for the most part.

That's a dumb argument. The human immune system is triggered by the flu shot. All you are doing is making sure you are exposed in a manner that allows your body to build the immunity with limit risk of getting sick.

[AbeBeta]

Also I've known a surprising amount of people who got the shot and actually ended up getting sick because they got the shot.

Getting sick from a dead virus? Gee that's a new one. More likely people fail to understand a few basics. First, flu shots happen during cold and flu season. They probably got a cold and called it the flu because many people do not understand the difference between the two. If they did have the flu, they were likely infected with before getting the shot or shortly thereafter. You need a couple of weeks to build immunity after the shot. But getting the flu from the shot? Not possible, no matter what people attribute their illness to.

[jrumann59]

That's a dumb argument. The human immune system is triggered by the flu shot. All you are doing is making sure you are exposed in a manner that allows your body to build the immunity with limit risk of getting sick.

Whether its dumb or not people still believe it. I never get the flu shot since I never get the flu. And like you said they are making an educated guess on how the common flu virus will mutate this year if they are wrong you get the flu so you are back at square one.

[AbeBeta]

Whether its dumb or not people still believe it. I never get the flu shot since I never get the flu. And like you said they are making an educated guess on how the common flu virus will mutate this year if they are wrong you get the flu so you are back at square one.

The flu does sometimes mutate and then a supplemental shot has to be developed (e.g., H1N1) but that doesn't mean that the shot does not provide protection. It provides protection against the common forms of the virus but not against the new ones. In that case there may be years that a 2nd dose is needed to supplement.

The idea that you are "back at square one" is completely wrong. The shot protects against all known strains of the flu. So you could be protected against the 12 common varieties but possibly not against a new one (i.e., 12 of 13 circulating viruses) or 0 of 13 circulating viruses.

[Risen Star]

Also I've known a surprising amount of people who got the shot and actually ended up getting sick because they got the shot.

You can't get the flu from a flu shot. It's an inactive, or killed, strand you get in the injection.

[Risen Star]

Getting sick from a dead virus? Gee that's a new one. More likely people fail to understand a few basics. First, flu shots happen during cold and flu season. They probably got a cold and called it the flu because many people do not understand the difference between the two. If they did have the flu, they were likely infected with before getting the shot or shortly thereafter. You need a couple of weeks to build immunity after the shot. But getting the flu from the shot? Not possible, no matter what people attribute their illness to.

Exactly right. I'm surprised by how many people believe that.

[Risen Star]

The flu does sometimes mutate and then a supplemental shot has to be developed (e.g., H1N1) but that doesn't mean that the shot does not provide protection. It provides protection against the common forms of the virus but not against the new ones. In that case there may be years that a 2nd dose is needed to supplement.

The idea that you are "back at square one" is completely wrong. The shot protects against all known strains of the flu. So you could be protected against the 12 common varieties but possibly not against a new one (i.e., 12 of 13 circulating viruses) or 0 of 13 circulating viruses.

The way I understand it is they project what strains will be active in the next flu season and create the vaccine for it. The effectiveness of the shot is depending on how accurate those projections are.

But each season is a different vaccine.

[realtick]

Man tons of people have been sick the past couple weeks.

Contagion

[john van brocklin]

:lmao2:

Yes I saw that too
" Head Coach Jones"

[dogberry]

Bring the flu shots to Valley Ranch. My guess is players are getting colds. I even got a cold this year. Can't remember my last one. Course, that may be my age.

[Wood]

It continues to shock me that players are either too lazy or too stupid to get a freaking flu shot.

i work in health care field and know many doctors and nurses who do not want the flu vaccine. If you wash your hands thru the day, don't pick your nose and obviously don't face someone who is sneezing...you really minimize your chances of getting the flu.

[AbeBeta]

The way I understand it is they project what strains will be active in the next flu season and create the vaccine for it. The effectiveness of the shot is depending on how accurate those projections are.

But each season is a different vaccine.

So because a projection isn't great one year you discount the entire vaccination process. Does it hurt you to get vaccinated if it is not a good match? No, actually you get far better protection even the there a poor match because immunity from exposure to one virus provides some immunity for other, related, strains.

Even in a worst case scenario you get better protection

[AbeBeta]

i work in health care field and know many doctors and nurses who do not want the flu vaccine. If you wash your hands thru the day, don't pick your nose and obviously don't face someone who is sneezing...you really minimize your chances of getting the flu.

If I'm a football player I am in direct contact with others in very close proximity. I can't wash my hands after every play now can I?

[Ren]

Also I've known a surprising amount of people who got the shot and actually ended up getting sick because they got the shot.

Flue shots are normally a weakened form of the virus so there's always a chance you get sick for a day or 2 while your immune system adapts but you won't get as sick as you would from catching the flue

[Picksix]

Because our punter is battling nerve damage in his foot and we might need Jones again. They must see some potential in Loper but we don't need him at the moment so he gets cut when we need the roster spot.

Also, Loper isn't eligible for the practice squad (I believe), so he keeps getting resigned to the 53. Either they see something in him, or feel like they need the depth, at least in practice.

[AbeBeta]

Flue shots are normally a weakened form of the virus so there's always a chance you get sick for a day or 2 while your immune system adapts but you won't get as sick as you would from catching the flue

In the US the shot is not a live virus. It is dead. Getting the flu from the flu shot would be about the same probability as getting bit by a dead dog

[AbeBeta]

Also, Loper isn't eligible for the practice squad (I believe), so he keeps getting resigned to the 53. Either they see something in him, or feel like they need the depth, at least in practice.

What we are doing with Loper is something that teams across the league do to expand their roster to 54. They find a guy who isn't PS eligible and re-sign and cut several times. Loper gets paid a game check each week, so he's fine with the situation

[Risen Star]

So because a projection isn't great one year you discount the entire vaccination process. Does it hurt you to get vaccinated if it is not a good match? No, actually you get far better protection even the there a poor match because immunity from exposure to one virus provides some immunity for other, related, strains.

Even in a worst case scenario you get better protection

Dude, I'm on your side here. I'm just saying, that's my understanding. I'm running it by you to see if you agree.

If what I said is true then I can understand why some people believe they got the flu from a flu shot. As incorrect as that is. They either have a cold, were infected prior to the shot taking effect or have a strain of flu not covered by the shot. They did not get it from the shot.

[Risen Star]

Flue shots are normally a weakened form of the virus so there's always a chance you get sick for a day or 2 while your immune system adapts but you won't get as sick as you would from catching the flue

Flu shots are inactive and dead. However, if you get the nasal spray vaccine, that is a weakened form.

[Gibby!]

In the US the shot is not a live virus. It is dead. Getting the flu from the flu shot would be about the same probability as getting bit by a dead dog

I don't know your background and I am not arguing with you, but I have had it explained to me a little differently.

While the above is the same as I was told, it was explained to me there is a short time after you get the flu-shot that your immune system ramps up to "attack" the dead virus. Most people never notice since the dead virus are dealt with fairly quickly, but some people take a day or two to deal with the virus, and will have a low grade fever, and some soreness, but by no means do they get the flu from the shot. I have occasionally had these symptoms myself.

[AsthmaField]

The US flu vaccine is, for all intents and purposes, simply the proteins from the virus which initiate an immune response. The 'dead' virus is incapable of replicating once inside the body, eliminating any chance of it creating problems. Once we are inoculated (injected), our immune system then creates antibodies in response to the foreign proteins and circulates them throughout the body.

Then, when a virulent strain enters the body, the virus will bind more strongly to the antibody than it will the body's cells... creating immunity from that particular variant of the flu.

No real downside there, in my eyes. The vaccine should take care of that season's flu, assuming you weren't already infected with it and in the middle of the incubation period when you got the shot.

[Funxva]

The US flu vaccine is, for all intents and purposes, simply the proteins from the virus which initiate an immune response. The 'dead' virus is incapable of replicating once inside the body, eliminating any chance of it creating problems. Once we are inoculated (injected), our immune system then creates antibodies in response to the foreign proteins and circulates them throughout the body.

Then, when a virulent strain enters the body, the virus will bind more strongly to the antibody than it will the body's cells... creating immunity from that particular variant of the flu.

No real downside there, in my eyes. The vaccine should take care of that season's flu, assuming you weren't already infected with it and in the middle of the incubation period when you got the shot.

Correct, it does in some cases cause cold-like symptoms, and can affect people differently, however. We did our flu shots about 2 months ago where I worked. Of 300 people about 10 - 15 we out for a day or two with low grade fevers.

[AsthmaField]

Correct, it does in some cases cause cold-like symptoms, and can affect people differently, however. We did our flu shots about 2 months ago where I worked. Of 300 people about 10 - 15 we out for a day or two with low grade fevers.


Right. However, that low grade temp is more a function of their own immune response, not of any natural behavior (replication) of the virus. No cell destruction.

So, in comparison to what a viable flu virus can do to a person... the mild symptoms are negligible.

[Funxva]

Right. However, that low grade temp is more a function of their own immune response, not of any natural behavior (replication) of the virus. No cell destruction.

So, in comparison to what a viable flu virus can do to a person... the mild symptoms are negligible.

Totally right, I didn't mean to imply that the dead virus was doing anything.

I think that it would be strange to have everyone taking flu shots this late in the flu season, but I'm not a doctor.

[aikemirv]

Getting sick from a dead virus? Gee that's a new one. More likely people fail to understand a few basics. First, flu shots happen during cold and flu season. They probably got a cold and called it the flu because many people do not understand the difference between the two. If they did have the flu, they were likely infected with before getting the shot or shortly thereafter. You need a couple of weeks to build immunity after the shot. But getting the flu from the shot? Not possible, no matter what people attribute their illness to.


It is the stuff they put with the shot that I am wary about.