Okay, So On Sunday Night Giants vs. Eagles

[Hostile]

I am so going to be rooting for the Eagles, so I hope like a mad monkey that Vince Young is at QB instead of Mike Vick.

Now, before anyone tells me they can't root for the Eagles no matter what, I understand. I hate them more than I hate Kickers, and you know how much I hate Kickers. But I always want what is best for Dallas, and right now, that is a Giants loss.

Yeah, I know their schedule becomes killer tough after this game. I know we face them twice and we can still be ahead of them without help from the Eagles. I do not care. Take every advantage now and later I say.

Was just reading a while ago that the Giants are probably going to be minus Michael Boley and Ahmad Bradshaw. If you could only see me dancing. I have rhythm for an old dude with bad knees.

If the Eagles show a little pride and we take care of business against the Washing Some Headskins, there better be nothing but jubilation across Cowboys nation.

For 24 hours anyway. A tough one against the Dolphins will be coming fast.


No Leon!!!

[Risen Star]

You lost me. Why would you be hoping Vince Young is playing instead of Vick?

[elcowboi]

I am so going to be rooting for the Eagles, so I hope like a mad monkey that Vince Young is at QB instead of Mike Vick.

Now, before anyone tells me they can't root for the Eagles no matter what, I understand. I hate them more than I hate Kickers, and you know how much I hate Kickers. But I always want what is best for Dallas, and right now, that is a Giants loss.

Yeah, I know their schedule becomes killer tough after this game. I know we face them twice and we can still be ahead of them without help from the Eagles. I do not care. Take every advantage now and later I say.

Was just reading a while ago that the Giants are probably going to be minus Michael Boley and Ahmad Bradshaw. If you could only see me dancing. I have rhythm for an old dude with bad knees.

If the Eagles show a little pride and we take care of business against the Washing Some Headskins, there better be nothing but jubilation across Cowboys nation.

For 24 hours anyway. A tough one against the Dolphins will be coming fast.


No Leon!!!

I hope the Eagles win also. I hate both teams equally but the Giants need to lose to help the Boys out. I'm looking foward to seeing the Giants to go down Sunday night!!!!!

[Risen Star]

I'm going to be starting a few 'Fly Eagles Fly!' singalongs in the game thread this week.

[Jimz31]

I can't stand the Eagles adn I have to hope they win as well, so I know what you are saying.

I'm really rooting for the injury bug on both sides....nothing career ending as it is just a sport.

[dfan32]

I am so going to be rooting for the Eagles, so I hope like a mad monkey that Vince Young is at QB instead of Mike Vick.

Now, before anyone tells me they can't root for the Eagles no matter what, I understand. I hate them more than I hate Kickers, and you know how much I hate Kickers. But I always want what is best for Dallas, and right now, that is a Giants loss.

Yeah, I know their schedule becomes killer tough after this game. I know we face them twice and we can still be ahead of them without help from the Eagles. I do not care. Take every advantage now and later I say.

Was just reading a while ago that the Giants are probably going to be minus Michael Boley and Ahmad Bradshaw. If you could only see me dancing. I have rhythm for an old dude with bad knees.

If the Eagles show a little pride and we take care of business against the Washing Some Headskins, there better be nothing but jubilation across Cowboys nation.

For 24 hours anyway. A tough one against the Dolphins will be coming fast.


No Leon!!!

If the Eagles are half as motivated against the Giants as they are against us, they just might pull an upset.

I have my doubts though. They seem content to beat the Cowboys and nothing else matters.

[Cowboys&LakersFan]

I'm sorry I can't root for the Eagles, I just can't.

[AZ_Cowboys_Fan]

I am so going to be rooting for the Eagles, so I hope like a mad monkey that Vince Young is at QB instead of Mike Vick.

Now, before anyone tells me they can't root for the Eagles no matter what, I understand. I hate them more than I hate Kickers, and you know how much I hate Kickers. But I always want what is best for Dallas, and right now, that is a Giants loss.

Yeah, I know their schedule becomes killer tough after this game. I know we face them twice and we can still be ahead of them without help from the Eagles. I do not care. Take every advantage now and later I say.

Was just reading a while ago that the Giants are probably going to be minus Michael Boley and Ahmad Bradshaw. If you could only see me dancing. I have rhythm for an old dude with bad knees.

If the Eagles show a little pride and we take care of business against the Washing Some Headskins, there better be nothing but jubilation across Cowboys nation.

For 24 hours anyway. A tough one against the Dolphins will be coming fast.


No Leon!!!


I'm with you on that, just not sure why you think VY at QB gives them a better chance to win...? You're thinking that VY at 100% is better than Vick at 60%?

[cowboys2233]

You lost me. Why would you be hoping Vince Young is playing instead of Vick?

Because Vick is a beaten down, broken shell of a QB. Vince Young might inject some life into that pathetic bunch. Maybe. I still think Vince Young could be a terrific QB in this league, provided he takes it seriously.

[Risen Star]

Because Vick is a beaten down, broken shell of a QB. Vince Young might inject some life into that pathetic bunch. Maybe. I still think Vince Young could be a terrific QB in this league, provided he takes it seriously.

Michael Vick is ten times the QB Vince Young will ever be.

[jimnabby]

I am so going to be rooting for the EaglesMe too. Usually I don't dare to root for the Eagles, ever - they've come back from "dead" too many times for that. But I'm making an exception, just this once. The Giants have a tough schedule, but the chances are higher that they'll eke out enough wins to stay ahead of us than that the Eagles will come back from 3-6. Go Eagles.

[realtick]

Giants are a bigger threat to us than the Eagles. Therefore, go Eagles!

[Jimz31]

Me too. Usually I don't dare to root for the Eagles, ever - they've come back from "dead" too many times for that. But I'm making an exception, just this once. The Giants have a tough schedule, but the chances are higher that they'll eke out enough wins to stay ahead of us than that the Eagles will come back from 3-6. Go Eagles.

Yep. :hammer:

[cowboys2233]

Michael Vick is ten times the QB Vince Young will ever be.

Maybe. Maybe not. Only time will tell if there is another chapter in the Vince Young story.

[Hostile]

You lost me. Why would you be hoping Vince Young is playing instead of Vick?Because I can't stand Vick.

[Risen Star]

Maybe. Maybe not. Only time will tell if there is another chapter in the Vince Young story.

Oh, there's another chapter. But unfortunately with Young it's a pop-up book.

[Risen Star]

Because I can't stand Vick.

He's a low life, so I understand.

I can't stand the whole team. From the owner on down.

When they kick off on Sunday, I'll get over it. Go Birds.

[Cowboys&LakersFan]

What is wrong with y'all? How can you root for Philfty? :banghead:

Just do what I'm doing root against the Giants.

[Frozen700]

Because I can't stand Vick.

yup if VY starts and lights them up he might be the new starter. Then we have to deal with VY instead of vick.

I rather that

[Frozen700]

I know we will sweep the Giants and the "Eli Prayer"

so idc if the giants win

[cowboys2233]

I know we will sweep the Giants and the "Eli Prayer"

so idc if the giants win

Some of his passes might look like prayers because he is throwing off his back foot and shying away from contact. But an inordinate amount of those "prayers" seem to be pretty damn accurate passes. I liken it more to Dirk Nowitzki's one-footed, off-balance shots. Yes, it doesn't look pretty when Eli is throwing those balls, but the results are pretty good. Sorry, these Giants are better than you're giving them credit for.

[Risen Star]

Some of his passes might look like prayers because he is throwing off his back foot and shying away from contact. But an inordinate amount of those "prayers" seem to be pretty damn accurate passes. I liken it more to Dirk Nowitzki's one-footed, off-balance shots. Yes, it doesn't look pretty when Eli is throwing those balls, but the results are pretty good. Sorry, these Giants are better than you're giving them credit for.

Ignore that. That's just a fan trying to discredit a rival.

Your rivals suck. Except when they win. Then they're lucky.

[Frozen700]

Some of his passes might look like prayers because he is throwing off his back foot and shying away from contact. But an inordinate amount of those "prayers" seem to be pretty damn accurate passes. I liken it more to Dirk Nowitzki's one-footed, off-balance shots. Yes, it doesn't look pretty when Eli is throwing those balls, but the results are pretty good. Sorry, these Giants are better than you're giving them credit for.

i hear you....

[roughneck266]

You lost me. Why would you be hoping Vince Young is playing instead of Vick?

Stronger suckage....

[5Stars]

I'm sorry I can't root for the Eagles, I just can't.

I hate the eagles too...but, sometimes you root for a team that can help you into the playoffs.

Don't hate the player, hate the game.

;)

[REDVOLUTION]

Because Vick is a beaten down, broken shell of a QB. Vince Young might inject some life into that pathetic bunch. Maybe. I still think Vince Young could be a terrific QB in this league, provided he takes it seriously.


I dont know if it will happen Sunday but VY went on a couple of runs as a Titan won 5-6 in a row just on his athleticism and "making plays" with his legs.

Would love to see some of that for this game.

[5Stars]

I dont know if it will happen Sunday but VY went on a couple of runs as a Titan won 5-6 in a row just on his athleticism and "making plays" with his legs.

Would love to see some of that for this game.

The eagles are pissed off. :D

The Giants better watch out.

[Juke99]

You lost me. Why would you be hoping Vince Young is playing instead of Vick?

Because he owns a dog and is madly in love with it. :D

[5Stars]

:dissgint: Because he owns a dog and is madly in love with it. :D

:eek:

:dissskin: = :disseags:




This game is going to be a dogfight, that's for sure.

[Eric_Boyer]

I'm rooting for the Eagles too.

a win not only hurts the giants, it hurts the Eagles draft position.

seems like a no-brainer to me.

[Risen Star]

I'm rooting for the Eagles too.

a win not only hurts the giants, it hurts the Eagles draft position.

seems like a no-brainer to me.

That's the other aspect we have to start thinking about.

I don't want the Eagles to have a top 5 or 10 pick.

[kmd24]

I'll be rooting for an Eagles win as well, but I still don't think it's going to matter. I think we'll have the division wrapped up in week 15 after destroying the Eagles in Dallas.

[Hostile]

Because he owns a dog and is madly in love with it. :DIt's mutual. She loves me too.

[Joe Realist]

If the Eagles win and go on some magical run, remember your words Hos. I want the Eagles out. We can take care of the Giants when we play them.

[CowboysFanSince88]

Because I can't stand Vick.

The Eagles have a better chance of losing if Vick does play sunday.

[Gemini Dolly]

We need all the help we can get. A Giants loss benefits us since they currently hold a one game lead. Fly Eagles, Fly.

[sonnyboy]

I don't understand the conflicting feelings here......

Now no one on the planet hates the eagles more than I do and this I'm certain of because I get around.;)

But I'll be pulling for them Sunday night and it's a no lose scenario as I see it. If they win, great helps the Cowboys. If they lose, just as good because I can wallow in their fans misery.:D

Am I missing something here? Where's the downside?

[CowboysFanSince88]

If the Eagles win and go on some magical run, remember your words Hos. I want the Eagles out. We can take care of the Giants when we play them.

Exactly, The faster they are out the better

[casmith07]

I don't understand the conflicting feelings here......

Now no one on the planet hates the eagles more than I do and this I'm certain of because I get around.;)

But I'll be pulling for them Sunday night and it's a no lose scenario as I see it. If they win, great helps the Cowboys. If they lose, just as good because I can wallow in their fans misery.:D

Am I missing something here? Where's the downside?

There is no downside!

[Hostile]

If the Eagles win and go on some magical run, remember your words Hos. I want the Eagles out. We can take care of the Giants when we play them.I don't believe in fairy tales JR. Their magical run is nothing more than making it to the toilet before the diarrhea paints their lace undies.

[Joe Realist]

I don't believe in fairy tales JR. Their magical run is nothing more than making it to the toilet before the diarrhea paints their lace undies.

You said that in 2008, when they were 5-5-1, you might even have said that in 2006 when they were 5-6 and we know they made runs. I dont get the same " feel ", yet I will not count them out unless they lose 8 games.

BTW = how do you know what Vick is wearing??

[CowboysFanSince88]

I don't believe in fairy tales JR. Their magical run is nothing more than making it to the toilet before the diarrhea paints their lace undies.

I feel if they ever get to .500, they will run the table. That's why that Bears win was so huge because they would have been 4-4. Now they have another opportunity to fall further below .500 so they can be out of the playoff picture. i don't want a Andy reid team sniffing .500 in December

[CowboysFanSince88]

You said that in 2008, when they were 5-5-1, you might even have said that in 2006 when they were 5-6 and we know they made runs. I dont get the same " feel ", yet I will not count them out unless they lose 8 games.

BTW = how do you know what Vick is wearing??

JR you know your history and understand why this team has to keep losing because of 2006 and 2008.

[Hostile]

You said that in 2008, when they were 5-5-1, you might even have said that in 2006 when they were 5-6 and we know they made runs. I dont get the same " feel ", yet I will not count them out unless they lose 8 games.

BTW = how do you know what Vick is wearing??Handcuffs?

[sonnyboy]

Exactly, The faster they are out the better

But even if they did, it wouldn't quite set up the worst case scenario.

This isn't likley, but it's plausible:

We win our next 6 games including the Eagle and Giant games.
We are 11-4.

The Giants win 5 of their next 6 games.
The Giants are 11-4.

The Bears and Lions are both 11-4 heading into week 17!

Now even after winning 8 straight games, we still have to win on the road in NY just to make the playoffs.

How'd you like to miss the playoffs at 11-5?


Now they're a number of different combinations that could play out where we have to win in NY to make the playoffs. I don't want to see any of them come to pass. Anything that makes that less likely to happen, is good for me.

[Joe Realist]

JR you know your history and understand why this team has to keep losing because of 2006 and 2008.


Yep and in 2006 on Christmas Night, The Eagles beat Cowboys to win the division and on the final game of 2008, the Eagles beat the Cowboys 44-6 to get the final wildcard spot.

No thank you - Go Giants, beat Philly.

[sonnyboy]

You said that in 2008, when they were 5-5-1, you might even have said that in 2006 when they were 5-6 and we know they made runs. I dont get the same " feel ", yet I will not count them out unless they lose 8 games.

BTW = how do you know what Vick is wearing??


This is all true but here's how I see it......

If we can't beat them at home, if we lose to them and lose a tiebreaker with them at 10-6 for the division, than so be it. We don't deserve the NFC East and wouldn't have a prayer in the playoffs anyway.

I can live with a must win scenario against them in Dallas. If we can't rise to that challange at HOME, than what's the point.

I just don't want to see a must win on the road in week 17 scenario to play out.

[Frozen700]

Ignore that. That's just a fan trying to discredit a rival.

Your rivals suck. Except when they win. Then they're lucky.

oh...

[CowboysFanSince88]

And futhermore, we don't know if we can root for the Eagles because the Cowboys have to beat the Skins at 1pm first.

So how many Cowboys fans will still be rooting for the Eagles to win on Sunday night if the Cowboys are 5-5 at 8pm???? So can we wait until 4pm on Sunday about rooting for the Eagles

[sonnyboy]

Yep and in 2006 on Christmas Night, The Eagles beat Cowboys to win the division and on the final game of 2008, the Eagles beat the Cowboys 44-6 to get the final wildcard spot.

No thank you - Go Giants, beat Philly.


Here's something to consider if you going to go off history....

The Patriots and Tom Brady are like friggen eagle cryptonite. (know i spelled that wrong)

They will not beat the Pats next week. They will get their 7th loss, next week if not this week.

[sonnyboy]

And futhermore, we don't know if we can root for the Eagles because the Cowboys have to beat the Skins at 1pm first.

So how many Cowboys fans will still be rooting for the Eagles to win on Sunday night if the Cowboys are 5-5 at 8pm???? So can we wait until 4pm on Sunday about rooting for the Eagles


In that scenario, I think a Giant loss is even more critical.

[CowboysFanSince88]

Here's something to consider if you going to go off history....

The Patriots and Tom Brady are like friggen eagle cryptonite. (know i spelled that wrong)

They will not beat the Pats next week. They will get their 7th loss, next week if not this week.

well belechick and Brady are 3-0 against the Eagles so you have a point.

[CowboysFanSince88]

In that scenario, I think a Giant loss is even more critical.


And have the Eagles on our tails at 4-6 while the Cowboys are 5-5. WHich would mean that Thanksgiving would be very STRESSFUL.

[Joe Realist]

Sorry, my mind wont be changed, plus I dont want a Christmas repeat of 5 years ago.

[Wimbo]

Cant it just end 0-0 and both of them be losers?

i like the ring of that.

The Eagles kicked our butt. They need to be eliminated. I would rather take on the Coughlin Giants 3 times again than face an Eagles team that figured out how to trample us.

[Hostile]

And futhermore, we don't know if we can root for the Eagles because the Cowboys have to beat the Skins at 1pm first.

So how many Cowboys fans will still be rooting for the Eagles to win on Sunday night if the Cowboys are 5-5 at 8pm???? So can we wait until 4pm on Sunday about rooting for the EaglesI still will be.

[Hostile]

In that scenario, I think a Giant loss is even more critical.
Co-sign.

[Risen Star]

In that scenario, I think a Giant loss is even more critical.

Definitely.

Color me an Eagles fan Sunday night.

[Hostile]

Definitely.

Color me an Eagles fan Sunday night.High 5.

[CCBoy]

High 5.

...and a fist tap....:) :starspin

Good film on how to abuse them is really important come December. And there should be good film available when they play a couple other teams between this Sunday and black 'n blue December.

[rathalarge]

I am so going to be rooting for the Eagles, so I hope like a mad monkey that Vince Young is at QB instead of Mike Vick.

Now, before anyone tells me they can't root for the Eagles no matter what, I understand. I hate them more than I hate Kickers, and you know how much I hate Kickers. But I always want what is best for Dallas, and right now, that is a Giants loss.

Yeah, I know their schedule becomes killer tough after this game. I know we face them twice and we can still be ahead of them without help from the Eagles. I do not care. Take every advantage now and later I say.

Was just reading a while ago that the Giants are probably going to be minus Michael Boley and Ahmad Bradshaw. If you could only see me dancing. I have rhythm for an old dude with bad knees.

If the Eagles show a little pride and we take care of business against the Washing Some Headskins, there better be nothing but jubilation across Cowboys nation.

For 24 hours anyway. A tough one against the Dolphins will be coming fast.


No Leon!!!
Me too!

[AMERICAS_FAN]

I'm rooting for a 0-0 tie.

[The30YardSlant]

I'm rooting for the large pothole under the New Meadowlands to finally give way.

[Nav22]

Some of his passes might look like prayers because he is throwing off his back foot and shying away from contact. But an inordinate amount of those "prayers" seem to be pretty damn accurate passes. I liken it more to Dirk Nowitzki's one-footed, off-balance shots. Yes, it doesn't look pretty when Eli is throwing those balls, but the results are pretty good. Sorry, these Giants are better than you're giving them credit for.

You have a short memory. Eli's been the NFL's interception king twice, and it's not by coincidence. Many of those "prayers" are, in reality, prayers.

When he chucks it up into coverage and his guy comes down with it or a PI flag goes against the DB, sorry, but those passes are usually not "pretty damn accurate". They are thrown in the general vicinity of his receiver and either his receiver makes a great play on the ball, OR the DB makes a horrendous play on the ball and commits a penalty. It's that simple... and he does that several times/game, every game.

I think it's a calculated risk on his part. By no means do I think he's a stupid player. Sometimes he gets away with them, sometimes he doesn't. But to classify those passes as "prayers" is not unfair in the least.

[LeonDixson]

I agree with your post, Hos. Whatever outcome is best for the Cowboys is what I want to happen. It's a no brainer; which is probably why you thought of it. I KID, I KID.:D

[Hostile]

I agree with your post, Hos. Whatever outcome is best for the Cowboys is what I want to happen. It's a no brainer; which is probably why you thought of it. I KID, I KID.:DI don't know whether that massaged my ego or bruised it?

[Doomsday101]

I am so going to be rooting for the Eagles, so I hope like a mad monkey that Vince Young is at QB instead of Mike Vick.

Now, before anyone tells me they can't root for the Eagles no matter what, I understand. I hate them more than I hate Kickers, and you know how much I hate Kickers. But I always want what is best for Dallas, and right now, that is a Giants loss.

Yeah, I know their schedule becomes killer tough after this game. I know we face them twice and we can still be ahead of them without help from the Eagles. I do not care. Take every advantage now and later I say.

Was just reading a while ago that the Giants are probably going to be minus Michael Boley and Ahmad Bradshaw. If you could only see me dancing. I have rhythm for an old dude with bad knees.

If the Eagles show a little pride and we take care of business against the Washing Some Headskins, there better be nothing but jubilation across Cowboys nation.

For 24 hours anyway. A tough one against the Dolphins will be coming fast.


No Leon!!!

I just want the Giants to lose but not pulling for the eagles. :laugh2:

My hope it is a physical and ugly looking game and in the end the Giants have 1 less point on the board than the eagles do.

[cowboy_ron]

I am so going to be rooting for the Eagles, so I hope like a mad monkey that Vince Young is at QB instead of Mike Vick.

Now, before anyone tells me they can't root for the Eagles no matter what, I understand. I hate them more than I hate Kickers, and you know how much I hate Kickers. But I always want what is best for Dallas, and right now, that is a Giants loss.

Yeah, I know their schedule becomes killer tough after this game. I know we face them twice and we can still be ahead of them without help from the Eagles. I do not care. Take every advantage now and later I say.

Was just reading a while ago that the Giants are probably going to be minus Michael Boley and Ahmad Bradshaw. If you could only see me dancing. I have rhythm for an old dude with bad knees.

If the Eagles show a little pride and we take care of business against the Washing Some Headskins, there better be nothing but jubilation across Cowboys nation.

For 24 hours anyway. A tough one against the Dolphins will be coming fast.


No Leon!!!
Rooting for the little eagles is fine in a game that helps the Boys if they win..I'm with ya hos

[LeonDixson]

I don't know whether that massaged my ego or bruised it?
Let me clear it up. You are a fine writer.

[187beatdown]

I will never root for the Eagles, EVER.

I'd much rather see their fan base sadder and miserable with another loss regardless how it helps the Cowboys just because they deserve it.

With that said, it's a win win anyway. I won't root for the Eagles, but if they win against the Giants I won't be upset about it.

[BraveHeartFan]

I get why you are Hos, and bless you for it, but I'm not gonna.

I'm going to put my chips on the Packers and Saints beating them the next two weeks and then on us taking care of business against them as well and that will more than take care of it for us.

I prefer to give Philly absolutely zero glimmer of hope and light by getting a W over the Giants.

[Gaede]

I will never root for the Eagles, EVER.

I'd much rather see their fan base sadder and miserable with another loss regardless how it helps the Cowboys just because they deserve it.

With that said, it's a win win anyway. I won't root for the Eagles, but if they win against the Giants I won't be upset about it.

:hammer:

[shockandroll]

I'll be happy either way because one of them looses, but I agree with your reasons. Giants loss is obviously better for us.

[Doomsday101]

I just like the idea that a Giants loss puts them 6-4 tied with Dallas and with a 1-2 mark in the division and a 3-4 mark in the conference

Dallas win give us 6-4 and a 2-1 for the division and a 5-2 conference record.

[StanleySpadowski]

A tie would be the best possible outcome.

[CATCH17]

I'm of the belief that if you aren't playing to get in the playoffs than the closer you get to the playoffs without making it only hurts you during draft time.

When Philly gets their 7th loss I hope they win out.

[sonnyboy]

I'm of the belief that if you aren't playing to get in the playoffs than the closer you get to the playoffs without making it only hurts you during draft time.

When Philly gets their 7th loss I hope they win out.


I'm 99% certain the 7th loss is all that's needed. The NFC east winner will have 10 or more wins as will the #6 wild card team.

As I've said, I'm hopeful for a week 16 matchup with them having been eliminated the week prior.

Historically speaking, teams do very poorly the week after they get eliminated from the playoffs. It's just human nature and it's hard as hell to fight.

Players come in on Monday and it's a different feel than what they've had all season. Very difficult to prepare and get up for that next game.

[cowboys2233]

You have a short memory. Eli's been the NFL's interception king twice, and it's not by coincidence. Many of those "prayers" are, in reality, prayers.

Hey, you don't like Eli, I get it. But the guy has shown the ability to bring his team back and no, he is not casting some mystical spell over refs and defenders alike. Many of those so-called prayers and ducks are well placed balls, even if he doesn't look pretty when throwing them. He has the seventh highest QBR rating this year and his team currently holds the division lead, despite the team's laundry list of injuries.

So if you want to paint him as this incompetent QB who throws up duck after duck, that's fine. But the numbers and his team's record don't support that, nor do my eyes when I watch him play. He's a damn good quarterback and while I despise the Giants more than anyone, I'll give credit where it's due.

[Outlaw Heroes]

I'm surprised people are taking the view that they can't support the Eagles on Sunday as a matter of principle. Aren't the Giants deserving of a great deal of hate themselves? As far as I'm concerned both teams are beneath contempt. Trying to choose which is worse is likely trying to decide whether excrement smells worse than vomit.

[Joe Realist]

I hate to say this but I think the Eagles win this game. Because Vince Young will play, the Eagles will run the ball more.

[Doomsday101]

I hate to say this but I think the Eagles win this game. Because Vince Young will play, the Eagles will run the ball more.

They will be breaking out Denver's play book. :laugh2:

[JonJon]

I'm rooting for the Eagles too.

a win not only hurts the giants, it hurts the Eagles draft position.

seems like a no-brainer to me.

This is my theory as well. I root for the Redskins, Giants, and Eagles to all end up 7-9 each year while the Cowboys end up at least 10-6. That way, the other 3 teams miss the playoffs but also don't get themselves in position to get a top player in the draft.

[Suave]

I hate to say this but I think the Eagles win this game. Because Vince Young will play, the Eagles will run the ball more.

You thinks so? I see them perhaps placing eight men in the box and daring Vince Young to beat them. I see Tom Coughlin unleashing that defensive line on Vince Young forcing him to get rid of the ball, which will in turn lead to turnovers. I see a lot of sacks in this game too.

I could be wrong though, but I envision Vince Young doing a lot of running for his life.

[Suave]

This is my theory as well. I root for the Redskins, Giants, and Eagles to all end up 7-9 each year while the Cowboys end up at least 10-6. That way, the other 3 teams miss the playoffs but also don't get themselves in position to get a top player in the draft.


I'll admit; that is a good way to look at it.

[Doomsday101]

You thinks so? I see them perhaps placing eight men in the box and daring Vince Young to beat them. I see Tom Coughlin unleashing that defensive line on Vince Young forcing him to get rid of the ball, which will in turn lead to turnovers. I see a lot of sacks in this game too.

I could be wrong though, but I envision Vince Young doing a lot of running for his life.

VY is capable of hitting the deep pass. Guy has a knack for making big plays down field.

[Joe Realist]

You thinks so? I see them perhaps placing eight men in the box and daring Vince Young to beat them. I see Tom Coughlin unleashing that defensive line on Vince Young forcing him to get rid of the ball, which will in turn lead to turnovers. I see a lot of sacks in this game too.

I could be wrong though, but I envision Vince Young doing a lot of running for his life.


The will run the ball 30 plus times, throw maybe 20. Young is alot harder to bring down than Vick. I am hoping the Giants win this game.

[Hostile]

I'm surprised people are taking the view that they can't support the Eagles on Sunday as a matter of principle. Aren't the Giants deserving of a great deal of hate themselves? As far as I'm concerned both teams are beneath contempt. Trying to choose which is worse is likely trying to decide whether excrement smells worse than vomit.Yes sir, yes sir, three bags full.

[DFWJC]

Giants are a bigger threat to us than the Eagles. Therefore, go Eagles!
Man, it's tough pulling for the Eagles. Maybe I can just say that I'm pulling against the Giants?
Either way, a Giants lose helps more.

[Cowboys&LakersFan]

The will run the ball 30 plus times, throw maybe 20. Young is alot harder to bring down than Vick. I am hoping the Giants win this game.

What is up with you and your fear of the Eagles? They're 3-6, they're done. They basically have to win out. They have NYG this week and the Pats next week. At best they finish 8-8.

[CowboysFanSince88]

I'm of the belief that if you aren't playing to get in the playoffs than the closer you get to the playoffs without making it only hurts you during draft time.

When Philly gets their 7th loss I hope they win out.

I would prefer them to have 8 losses before December 1st then they can win out.

[CowboysFanSince88]

What is up with you and your fear of the Eagles? They're 3-6, they're done. They basically have to win out. They have NYG this week and the Pats next week. At best they finish 8-8.

They are not done until they get their 8th loss

[Suave]

They are not done until they get their 8th loss

I still don't know if I agree with this. The Eagles have lost quite a few conference games to teams that are also fighting for a playoff spot. If the Eagles happen to finish at 9-7, and if teams like the Bears and Falcons also finish with a 9-7 record, then the Eagles would lose the tiebreaker to both teams because the Eagles lost to both teams. If they lose to the Giants again, and both teams have the same record at the end of the regular season, then the Giants would take precedence over them. The Eagles have placed themselves in a situation in which winning the division is likely the only way they will make the playoffs. They have lost too many games, and I think one more loss would be a knockout blow. At worst, I think the Giants, Bears, and Falcons will all finish 9-7.

[Cowboys&LakersFan]

They are not done until they get their 8th loss

Dude they're done. If they win out I'll eat crow in like a month and a half, but it ain't happening.

[kmd24]

The Eagles are not done by any means. They have four moderately difficult games left on their schedule, but it's not as difficult as the Giants' schedule. It's conceivable that they could win the division at 9-7 if they win the rest of their division games and beat the Seahawks, Dolphins, and one of the Jets or Patriots.

In that scenario, it's easy to get the Giants to 9-7: a split with Dallas, the loss to the Eagles mentioned above, and losses to NO and GB. Dallas could also easily be projected to 9-7 as we'd only need a loss to one of Miami, Arizona, Tampa Bay, or the Skins in addition to the split with the Giants and the loss to the Eagles.

I don't think that scenario is a highly likely scenario, but it's a little too early to say that they are done.

[Risen Star]

I still don't know if I agree with this. The Eagles have lost quite a few conference games to teams that are also fighting for a playoff spot. If the Eagles happen to finish at 9-7, and if teams like the Bears and Falcons also finish with a 9-7 record, then the Eagles would lose the tiebreaker to both teams because the Eagles lost to both teams. If they lose to the Giants again, and both teams have the same record at the end of the regular season, then the Giants would take precedence over them. The Eagles have placed themselves in a situation in which winning the division is likely the only way they will make the playoffs. They have lost too many games, and I think one more loss would be a knockout blow. At worst, I think the Giants, Bears, and Falcons will all finish 9-7.

The Eagles will need to be 10-6 to make the playoffs.

So they have to win out.

Not happening. They're done.

[CowboysFanSince88]

I still don't know if I agree with this. The Eagles have lost quite a few conference games to teams that are also fighting for a playoff spot. If the Eagles happen to finish at 9-7, and if teams like the Bears and Falcons also finish with a 9-7 record, then the Eagles would lose the tiebreaker to both teams because the Eagles lost to both teams. If they lose to the Giants again, and both teams have the same record at the end of the regular season, then the Giants would take precedence over them. The Eagles have placed themselves in a situation in which winning the division is likely the only way they will make the playoffs. They have lost too many games, and I think one more loss would be a knockout blow. At worst, I think the Giants, Bears, and Falcons will all finish 9-7.

I don't want it to come down to the last week of the season. I want their season to be over by Dec 11th.

[sonnyboy]

The Eagles are not done by any means. They have four moderately difficult games left on their schedule, but it's not as difficult as the Giants' schedule. It's conceivable that they could win the division at 9-7 if they win the rest of their division games and beat the Seahawks, Dolphins, and one of the Jets or Patriots.

In that scenario, it's easy to get the Giants to 9-7: a split with Dallas, the loss to the Eagles mentioned above, and losses to NO and GB. Dallas could also easily be projected to 9-7 as we'd only need a loss to one of Miami, Arizona, Tampa Bay, or the Skins in addition to the split with the Giants and the loss to the Eagles.

I don't think that scenario is a highly likely scenario, but it's a little too early to say that they are done.

I agree the eagles aren't done because they only have 6 loses.

IF they won out, I'd like their chances to win the east at 10-6. Don't like to Giants to finish better than 9-7 if they lose Sunday night and the Eagles would have sweept the Cowboys, who I still see finishing 10-6 with a loss the the eagles.

I have too much confidence in the Cowboys to finishing with at least 10 wins, to agree the eagles have a legit chance to win the east at 9-7.

I don't believe the Cowboys lose to Wash, Miami, Arizona or TB. I don't believe they won't win at least 1 of the 3 games against the Eagles and Giants.

I'm confident the Cowboys will be 8-4 going into the Giants game. I believe they will clinch the NFC east with a win in TB or more likely a win at home the next week against the eagles.

I also believe there's an excellent chance that the eagles and giants are eliminated from the playoffs in weeks 15 and 16. That sets up very favorable matchups with them in weeks 16 and 17.

Historically speaking, its always been very difficult for a team to stay motivated and play well the next week after its eliminated from the playoffs. Home or away, division rivalries all go out the window and that team usually plays it's worst game of the season.

[sonnyboy]

OMT I was just looking at the 4-5 Bucs upcoming schedule. I think there's an excellent chance they are eliminated week 13 in Jacksonville before our week 14 matchup.

When I checked out the Cowboys remaining schedule back in week 6, TB was one of those games I felt would look and actually be much easier when it was played than it did in week 6.

Now it looks like we may hit the playoff elimination trifecta to end the season.

[Kaika]

Hos I'm with ya on this one,Got no problem rooting for the iggles. I would root against the gints if they were playing the taliban (http://i39.tinypic.com/s6ukbl.gif)

That is the one team I dislike more than any other ,and no other teams are close. (http://i39.tinypic.com/s6ukbl.gif)
Especially Coughlin , I cannot stomach that man.http://i39.tinypic.com/s6ukbl.gif (http://i39.tinypic.com/s6ukbl.gif)

[CowboysFanSince88]

Hos I'm with ya on this one,Got no problem rooting for the iggles. I would root against the gints if they were playing the taliban (http://i39.tinypic.com/s6ukbl.gif)

That is the one team I dislike more than any other ,and no other teams are close. (http://i39.tinypic.com/s6ukbl.gif)
Especially Coughlin , I cannot stomach that man.http://i39.tinypic.com/s6ukbl.gif (http://i39.tinypic.com/s6ukbl.gif)

Remind me to look for you in January if the eagles win this game and get confidence that leads to 6 straight wins and finish ahead of the Cowboys

[Kaika]

Remind me to look for you in January if the eagles win this game and get confidence that leads to 6 straight wins and finish ahead of the Cowboys
Six in a row????Whatever your smoking I would like some.:cool:

[Joe Realist]

What is up with you and your fear of the Eagles? They're 3-6, they're done. They basically have to win out. They have NYG this week and the Pats next week. At best they finish 8-8.


Call me scarred from the ghosts of seasons past as well as Reid's tendency to get his teams on second half runs. I actually think they have better chance to beat Giants this week than if a hurt Vick played. However, if they would lose and fall to 3-7, I would pretty happy come late Sunday night.

[Suave]

I don't want it to come down to the last week of the season. I want their season to be over by Dec 11th.

It won't come down to the last week of the season if the Cowboys take care of business, and win their games.

[baj1dallas]

Michael Vick is ten times the QB Vince Young will ever be.

lol...no. Not even close. 1.5 times maybe.

[Hostile]

I fully expect the Giants to win this game.

Go Eagles.

:puke:



That was nasty.




:disseags::dissgint:

[CowboysFanSince88]

If the Eagles win tonight that would mean the NFL is scripted. The End

[realtick]

Dude they're done. If they win out I'll eat crow in like a month and a half, but it ain't happening.

Yeah, I highly doubt that.

You've been so wrong on pretty much everything and I have yet to see you relent once.

[TheSkaven]

Now, before anyone tells me they can't root for the Eagles no matter what, I understand. I hate them more than I hate Kickers, and you know how much I hate Kickers. But I always want what is best for Dallas, and right now, that is a Giants loss.

I can't root for the Eagles. You knew someone would say it. See my avatar. :D

I'm of the mindset that if the Cowboys take care of business, it won't matter. I am real excited - I bought tickets to the season finale in the Meadowlands from a Giants' season ticket holder (bet he's regretting the transaction now) and that game is shaping up to be the game for the division. It's 1992 again.

No Leon!!!

You just know they're going to show that replay again and again. At least we can be comforted by knowing how that season ended. :)

[AmishGangsta]

The Redskins aren't used to having a lead. I think you guys are going to have your hands full with em.


Don't think I posted in the right thread for this :(

[AmishGangsta]

Cowboys fans always talk about other teams envying their position, I must say, they are right.

I would love to watch a football game, where the referees always had our back.

I know Cowboys fans have experienced bad games with the referees - ie 5 yard holding calls etc... but it's nothing like what fans of other teams have to deal with - ie game changing calls; especially when playing "americas teams".

I'm actually suprised te skins ar still in it, with the calls they've made so far; I know Cowboys fans won't agree (obviously - nor would afan of of any other team), because tha'ts just how it is, when you're on the receiving end of a gift, you just accept it and defend it.

But it is what it is gg felllas.

[Romo_To_Dez]

Is there any chance that Vince Young will turn into the Good Vince for at least one night? :o:

[CATCH17]

That game just reminds me even more how small are margin for error is.


Go Eagles. Beat the crap out of the Giants!

[AmishGangsta]

Good game Cowboys, you guys showed you were leaps and bounds better than us.

Refs obviously cheating, keeping the skins in the game. What a bunch of cheaters - I hear they were making noises on the defensive line - omg the league needs to shut down stephen bowen, such a terrible player, and needs to be shot.

[Texas_Pete]

Go Eagirls!

[Ren]

Cowboys fans always talk about other teams envying their position, I must say, they are right.

I would love to watch a football game, where the referees always had our back.

I know Cowboys fans have experienced bad games with the referees - ie 5 yard holding calls etc... but it's nothing like what fans of other teams have to deal with - ie game changing calls; especially when playing "americas teams".

I'm actually suprised te skins ar still in it, with the calls they've made so far; I know Cowboys fans won't agree (obviously - nor would afan of of any other team), because tha'ts just how it is, when you're on the receiving end of a gift, you just accept it and defend it.

But it is what it is gg felllas.


You must have missed our first meeting this season :rolleyes:

[Ren]

Good game Cowboys, you guys showed you were leaps and bounds better than us.

Refs obviously cheating, keeping the skins in the game. What a bunch of cheaters - I hear they were making norses on the defensive line - omg the league needs to shut dan snyder down, he uses chat codes.


U mad bro? :lmao:

[AmishGangsta]

U mad bro? :lmao:

No, I'm just sayin, those stinking Redskins had no chance.

Should have been a blow out, and it would have been, had their team not been cheating.

Think they need to change their name, then the refs would have more respect for them.

[Hostile]

No, I'm just sayin, those stinking Redskins had no chance.

Should have been a blow out, and it would have been, had their team not been cheating.Don't sweat it man. We both knew it was going to be a rough year for your team. They started out hot, played out of their minds today. Don't hate the effort they gave you today. Honestly, if you keep Shanny and stay the course this is going to come back right. Gotta draft your QB. I am hoping it won't be Landry Jones.

[Ren]

No, I'm just sayin, those stinking Redskins had no chance.

Should have been a blow out, and it would have been, had their team not been cheating.

Think they need to change their name, then the refs would have more respect for them.

Nothing like those moral victories huh? If only there was a separate standing for those, you'd be 10-0

[Ren]

Don't sweat it man. We both knew it was going to be a rough year for your team. They started out hot, played out of their minds today. Don't hate the effort they gave you today. Honestly, if you keep Shanny and stay the course this is going to come back right. Gotta draft your QB. I am hoping it won't be Landry Jones.

I'd much rather see him there then RG3

[cowboyuptx]

Because Vick is a beaten down, broken shell of a QB. Vince Young might inject some life into that pathetic bunch. Maybe. I still think Vince Young could be a terrific QB in this league, provided he takes it seriously.

Everybody is on Tebow right now, because "he just wins", even though his stats are putrid...

If Vince Young were also judged on win-loss record (30-17 as a starter), then he would deserve similar praise, plus he can throw and probably even run better than Tebow...

I don't know if Young is better than Vick right now, but I don't think there's much separating the two....

[Hostile]

I'd much rather see him there then RG3I think Jones is going to be a better pro QB. I like both very much.

[The30YardSlant]

I think Jones is going to be a better pro QB. I like both very much.

Jones shows every indication of being a bust IMO. He is rarely very good away from Norman, holds the ball way too long at times and even in an offense designed to put up great QB numbers he has many games with low completion %'s. To me, he's Ryan Leaf without the attitude problems.

I would almost hope they draft him if they want a QB, because guys like Luck, Griffin and even Barkley have more potential IMO.

[dexternjack]

I see Jones being a bust too. I still like Kase Keenum in the pro game, but what do I know :(

[MC KAos]

vick is 49-37 in his NFL career, including 11-9 with the eagles. Vince is 30-17, 1 more game above .500 than vick in a lot less games. all you vince (prob UT) haters out there can talk all you want, but the guy wins games, and he did it against us last year too dont forget!

I think the Eagles will play better with Vince, and as a UT fan i will always cheer for him (unless he plays or it affects the cowboys). So im more than happy to cheer for him tonight despite my hate for the eagirls!

i wont say go eagles, but ill say GO VINCE!

[Novacek84]

Sorry, I can't ever root for the Eagles either. I want the Giants to knock them out and we'll deal with Giants on our own. If we can't take care of our own business we don't deserve the East. I always want Eagle fans crying in their beer because they are the most classless group in the NFL.

[5Stars]

Sorry, I can't ever root for the Eagles either. I want the Giants to knock them out and we'll deal with Giants on our own. If we can't take care of our own business we don't deserve the East. I always want Eagle fans crying in their beer because they are the most classless group in the NFL.

Don't hate the player, bro...hate the game.

We need the eagles to beat the Giants...it only helps us. And, if the eagles do win, then you and I can go back to hating that "Dream Team".


;)

[Galian Beast]

I'm rooting for the Eagles hard to win this game. This is a huge game in the division race.

[Gemini Dolly]

Me too. Hopefully Vince Young displays some of that inner LongHorn.

[tomson75]

I just threw up.


You don't have to actively root for them....you know?

Just hope they don't let the Gints win.

[iowast8rs]

rooting for the Gnats, we buried the Skins, they will bury the Eagals, we'll take care of the Giants on our own.

[StevenOtero]

I don't see how any true Cowboys fan cannot root for the Eagles. A Giants win is a disadvantage to Dallas.

[5Stars]

I don't see how any true Cowboys fan cannot root for the Eagles. A Giants win is a disadvantage to Dallas.

Stupid Cowboy fans, bro!


:D ;)

[DallasInDC]

Def rooting for a giants loss. Didn't get any help today from the Lions or Chicago, so the least that can go right is we move into the NFC east lead with a giants loss.

[AmishGangsta]

I knew I had posted somewhere, but couldn't find it lol

Sorry, I was a little tipsy on Sunday, good game :D