What are your thoughts on Newman

[Henson7]

Top draft pick with decent rookie season till the playoff game, had a horrible second season...at least the 1st 10 games or so. Do you think he'll bounce back or do you reckon he'll be labeled a bust by the end of this season?

[peacockaja]

I think he will be a Pro Bowler/All-Pro

[dargonking999]

I think he will come as close to a shut down corner as you can get these days, rough 2nd season coming back with a fury, i see pro bowls

[Mike 1967]

Top draft pick with decent rookie season till the playoff game, had a horrible second season...at least the 1st 10 games or so. Do you think he'll bounce back or do you reckon he'll be labeled a bust by the end of this season?

I definitely want him to succeed.

But I would not lay a bet either way at this point.

I am very interested to see how he performs this year. Especially if we are able to create a consistent pass rush.

[Rack Bauer]

He's better then any CB on the Eagles roster and one of their CBs made the probowl.


Amazing what a pass rush can do for a CB.

[Henson7]

He's better then any CB on the Eagles roster and one of their CBs made the probowl.


Amazing what a pass rush can do for a CB.

come on I don't think he's better than lito or brown, those two are studs. sometimes last season Newman looked really bad. now if that's because of a lack of a pass rush i don't know..but from what i've seen I'll trade him for any of the eagles corners in a heartbeat

[ghettogandhi]

He's better then any CB on the Eagles roster and one of their CBs made the probowl.


Amazing what a pass rush can do for a CB.


I would like to know what games you guys have been watching- obviously not cowboys games- at the very best Newman has been an average corner to date- he played good his first year but this past year his technique and confidence disappeared-

He did seem to grow up and improve as the year went on.

part of the problem is not with him but the defensive scheme that either accepts 0 pressure on the quarterback from the front four(using Zimmers engage techniques) or send a blitz which in our system puts the corners on an island without a serviceable fs to cover any ground-

Does Newman have the potential to be a good corner? without a doubt- he has good size, speed etc but has he been- absolutely not

If he regains his confidence,utilizing his size and speed, and his technique than he will be ....if not he is another draft pick that doesnt quite live up expectations.

[ghettogandhi]

come on I don't think he's better than lito or brown, those two are studs. sometimes last season Newman looked really bad. now if that's because of a lack of a pass rush i don't know..but from what i've seen I'll trade him for any of the eagles corners in a heartbeat

Newman has been average at best

[Reed]

many forget he was injured first half of season and played through it, and he really stepped up second half of season

[Portland Fanatic]

Top draft pick with decent rookie season till the playoff game, had a horrible second season...at least the 1st 10 games or so. Do you think he'll bounce back or do you reckon he'll be labeled a bust by the end of this season?

Before you make blind statements look at some tape...T-new had three BAD games last year...the other games he basically shut his side of the field down. Three games made his overall stats look ugly...without those games he had pro-bowl numbers....nuff said.

[ghettogandhi]

many forget he was injured first half of season and played through it, and he really stepped up second half of season

injured or hurt? what injury did he have? lakofconfidenceitis-

[Everlastingxxx]

Top draft pick with decent rookie season till the playoff game, had a horrible second season...at least the 1st 10 games or so. Do you think he'll bounce back or do you reckon he'll be labeled a bust by the end of this season?

I reckon he will do well if he stays healthy. Not to be negative (ok, i like to be negative) but he has been injury free so far in the NFL. 3rd year jinx?

Newman is a top corner.

[Henson7]

Before you make blind statements look at some tape...T-new had three BAD games last year...the other games he basically shut his side of the field down. Three games made his overall stats look ugly...without those games he had pro-bowl numbers....nuff said.

if you're being honest I think you'll find he had more than 3 bad games. and pro bowl numbers... you must be joking

[ghettogandhi]

Before you make blind statements look at some tape...T-new had three BAD games last year...the other games he basically shut his side of the field down. Three games made his overall stats look ugly...without those games he had pro-bowl numbers....nuff said.

to be fair fanatic I saw the same thing over the first 10 or so games also-
he got turned around on slants ....he couldnt find the ball deep and got beat deep.

My contention is that Newman did not get any help from his free safety- who sucked- dixon and scott- and the pass rush was average most games and relied on blitzes the other half -thus leaving Newman on an island by himself

Would I take Newman over the Eagles corners- Im not sure- Can Newman be good- absolutely
WIll he -I hope so

[followthestar]

the cliff notes: newman himself has stated he was having a confidence crises for about the first 10 games - he was pushing too hard to make plays, as was the entire secondary. then he read an article where smoot got torched for a couple TDs, and newman realized he had to play looser. everyone gets beat from time to time, or has a particularly bad day. he shook off his funk and started playing with more confidence as the season wore on.
he will be back stronger than ever this year, confident that he'll have some help back there from a true FS and the addition of henry, not to mention a pass rush perhaps. i think it will be a race between henry and newman for most INTs, both grabbing at least 5 IMO...

[Chocolate Lab]

come on I don't think he's better than lito or brown, those two are studs.
Uh, no, they aren't. No way.

And that has nothing to do with what one thinks of Newman, either.

[Muhast]

Think about it, he had NO ONE helping him last year. Show me ONE cornerback in the league who had to cover each team's best with NO HELP the entire game, and show me how well he did. Champ bailey cant play 1 on 1 an entire game with no help, why are we expecting Terrance to? He played pretty well as a rookie when he had woodson helping out. Last year he went solo. Wait untill we have a safety and any haters will bite there tongue after you see him shine in the pro-bowl. :o)

[Muhast]

to all those that are so high on the eagles corners... they had 2 probowlers with vincent and Taylor leave, and now 2 probowlers with sheppard and brown... Are there corners THAT deep that backups and rookies make the pro-bowl? I doubt it. Look behind them, that's what is putting them there. Show me some names of all star corners who have no fs help, and no pass rush. Well.... anyone? Dont all speak at the same time. lol

[Portland Fanatic]

if you're being honest I think you'll find he had more than 3 bad games. and pro bowl numbers... you must be joking

OK...for those to lazy to find stats themselves here ya go...posted by Adam in January...

Here are the catches and yards Newman allowed each game, with the length of each TD catch --

Minnesota -- 4-37 (3-yard TD, 1-yard TD)

Cleveland -- 1-12; interception

Washington -- 6-49 (15-yard TD)

N.Y. Giants -- 1-16

Pittsburgh -- 9-104 (5-yard TD)

Green Bay -- 4-102 (33-yard TD)

Detroit -- 1-29

Cincinnati -- 1-2

Philadelphia -- 1-13

Baltimore -- 1-1

Chicago -- 0-0; interception

Seattle -- 11-139 (2-yard TD)

New Orleans -- 2-42 (31-yard TD)

Philadelphia -- 0-0; interception

Washington -- 4-15; interception

N.Y. Giants -- 1-7


TOTAL -- 47-568, seven touchdowns

Avg. per game -- 2.9 catches, 35.5 yards, 0.4 touchdowns



Last season, he allowed 39 catches for 580 yards and one TD. So he actually allowed fewer yards this season than he did last season. Also, he had nine games this season in which he allowed one catch or less. Last year, he had only three games when he allowed one catch, and he never had a shutout.


You were saying??????

[Chief]

Think about it, he had NO ONE helping him last year. Show me ONE cornerback in the league who had to cover each team's best with NO HELP the entire game, and show me how well he did. Champ bailey cant play 1 on 1 an entire game with no help, why are we expecting Terrance to? He played pretty well as a rookie when he had woodson helping out. Last year he went solo. Wait untill we have a safety and any haters will bite there tongue after you see him shine in the pro-bowl. :o)

Well said.

Champ Bailey, regarded by some as the best corner in the game, got embarrassed a couple of games last year. It happens, especially when you have no deep help and no pass rush.

Newman had some rough outings, but he'll be alright. The new DB coach might help, too.

[bsheeern]

OK...for those to lazy to find stats themselves here ya go...posted by Adam in January...



You were saying??????

Nothing, or atleast that is what everyone should say after seeing those stats!!!!!!!!!!!!! Unless they want to talk about how good Newman will be for the next 8-10 years!!

[btcutter]

come on I don't think he's better than lito or brown, those two are studs. sometimes last season Newman looked really bad. now if that's because of a lack of a pass rush i don't know..but from what i've seen I'll trade him for any of the eagles corners in a heartbeat

Look at Eagles secondary last few yrs. Almost the entire 2ndary have gone to the PRO Bowl. That'b because of the pressure they generate up front. When their CB's leaves, I don't heard them going to pro bowls every yr. They are decent CB's but they benifit from the system. I have absolutely no doubt that if Newman plays in that system, he'll be an annual probowler.

[ABQCOWBOY]

I watched all Cowboy games last season and I did not think Newman played badly. He had isolated games where he didn't look good but I would not say he had a terrible season.

My opinion of Newman has not changed since before the draft. He is not a shut down corner back. He is a very nice player but he is not Deion. He will struggle with physical players but by and large, he's going to cover whomever you put him on. I do not, and did not think he was worth the pick we used on him but that' water under the bridge. He's a Cowboy now and that's all that matters to me.

[Rack Bauer]

Some of you people have less knowledge about football then my dog.

Give Newman the same pass rush the Eagles have and he's an all-pro. Period. Put any of the Eagles CBs in a cowboys uniform last year and he gets toasted just like Newman and whoever lined up at RCB did. A CB is NOTHING w/o a pass rush. ALL CBs WILL GET TOASTED IF YOU DON'T PRESSURE THE QB.

[Mike 1967]

OK...for those to lazy to find stats themselves here ya go...posted by Adam in January...



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THANKS !

This is excellent information. I was wishing we had access to this kind of info last week.

[Mike 1967]

OK...for those to lazy to find stats themselves here ya go...posted by Adam in January...



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Man I wish Adam would revise this to include pass attempts as well :- )

Pretty please :D

[jimmy40]

OK...for those to lazy to find stats themselves here ya go...posted by Adam in January...



You were saying??????How many times was he thrown at? How many times was Dallas other coner thrown at?

[Mike 1967]

to all those that are so high on the eagles corners... they had 2 probowlers with vincent and Taylor leave, and now 2 probowlers with sheppard and brown... Are there corners THAT deep that backups and rookies make the pro-bowl? I doubt it. Look behind them, that's what is putting them there. Show me some names of all star corners who have no fs help, and no pass rush. Well.... anyone? Dont all speak at the same time. lol

I know exactly what your saying here.

I used to be a huge proponent of both Vincent and Taylor. I often put forth the hypothesis that the strength of the Eagles defense lay in these two corners......and that the defense would fade as these guys faded with age.

So....either I was wrong....or the Eagles have excellent talent evaluation on corners.

The odds are I was wrong. Who hits 4 home runs in a row ????

Right now I believe that the Philly corners are a product of the system. Which is ironic because the first thing you notice in that system is that they the corners are put on an island in bump and run coverage.

But....there is still the outside possibility that the Eagles did hit 4 homeruns in a row on corners. But the odds are against it definitely.

Only time will tell. And time definitely will give us the full story.

[Hollywood Henderson]

NO Cowboy Defensive player will ever be as good as they can be as long as zimmy WUSS is here...

Clearly the worst DC in the NFL, he needs to be dumped in the Rio Grande!

I expect the DB's to play somewhat better because we now have an actual DB coach in Bowles, but until we get a DC who is innovative and can create a pass rush, we will lose games we should win!

Unless Parcells takes over on D with a 3-4, we will be burnt on D!

[Mike 1967]

Some of you people have less knowledge about football then my dog.


You must have a very smart dog :D

[jimmy40]

Some of you people have less knowledge about football then my dog.

Give Newman the same pass rush the Eagles have and he's an all-pro. Period. Put any of the Eagles CBs in a cowboys uniform last year and he gets toasted just like Newman and whoever lined up at RCB did. A CB is NOTHING w/o a pass rush. ALL CBs WILL GET TOASTED IF YOU DON'T PRESSURE THE QB.I have enough football knowledge to know you can't blitz every play if your corners can't cover.

[BrAinPaiNt]

I think he smells like fish and I don't like the way he smiles.

Ok on a serious note...Although he has had some rough times, he has played pretty well considering we have a lack of a pass rush and sacks and he did not have much support at RCB and FS.

People are still too caught up in the term lock down or shut down corner in the NFL now...the last true shut down CB in the league IMO was when Deion Sanders was still healthy, and that was a year before he left the cowboys....that's been quite a long time since there has been a true shut down CB in the league IMO....plus add in the new rules that favor the WRs and passing game....I doubt we will ever see another true shut down corner back.

[Portland Fanatic]

Man I wish Adam would revise this to include pass attempts as well :- )

Pretty please :D

Don't have time today, but hoping to find the same stats for Champ Bailey...I know he got torched in several games last year...I'd bet T-news stats still look better.

Harrison alone I think torched him big time all game long...I watch Porter light him up...few other games too.

[Mike 1967]

Don't have time today, but hoping to find the same stats for Champ Bailey...I know he got torched in several games last year...I'd bet T-news stats still look better.

Harrison alone I think torched him big time all game long...I watch Porter light him up...few other games too.

Speaking for myself....I'm definitely feeling better about Newman after reading some of the point on this post.

Except for Hollywoods....his has me completely depressed :D

[The30YardSlant]

He has world class speed and a 38'' vertical, I think he'll be fine :D

[Hoov]

I think Newman will be fine. The whole defense suffered through a rough year. When your worried about the guy next to you and you start thinking do i need to cheat over a little to help out here or there and you lose focus of your "game" because you want to do more to help the team win and you just don't know about some of the other guys, then you start playing bad, second guesing things. sure, i saw some good receivers abuse newman at the goal line for what looked like easy TD's, but i think he was off his game a lot due to lack of consistency and leadership in secondary. Loosing Woodson was no small thing.

[The30YardSlant]

NO Cowboy Defensive player will ever be as good as they can be as long as zimmy WUSS is here...

Clearly the worst DC in the NFL, he needs to be dumped in the Rio Grande!

I expect the DB's to play somewhat better because we now have an actual DB coach in Bowles, but until we get a DC who is innovative and can create a pass rush, we will lose games we should win!

Unless Parcells takes over on D with a 3-4, we will be burnt on D!

The bigger question is: Can someone be banned for just being so obliviously stupid?

[Rack Bauer]

You must have a very smart dog


He's smart, but he doesn't watch much football. :D


I have enough football knowledge to know you can't blitz every play if your corners can't cover.


The Eagles have been blitzing less and less over the last couple of years. They weren't a big blitzing team last year.

By the way, we were a blitz happy team in 2003, when we finished with the #1 defense in the NFL. Is Mario Edwards a probowl caliber CB now too?

[Novacek84]

I'm not sure what Newman will do this year. With improved help in the secondary and D-line I would expect to see more of his rookie year performance as opposed to last year. But as I posted in another thread, he is one of the guys that must step up to a high level in 2005 if we are to be a serious contender. He was the #5 overall pick 2 drafts ago and bad NFL rules for CBs or not he must show he is worthy of that status this year.

[ghettogandhi]

He's smart, but he doesn't watch much football. :D





The Eagles have been blitzing less and less over the last couple of years. They weren't a big blitzing team last year.

By the way, we were a blitz happy team in 2003, when we finished with the #1 defense in the NFL. Is Mario Edwards a probowl caliber CB now too?

no but he is also the reason we stopped blitzing that year- he kept getting beat deep and getting called for PI.

Edwards is mediocre

[kapolani]

I wouldn't worry.

He's going to be a stud.

I don't care who you put out there - with the help the safeties provided this year (or lack there of) they would have been burnt too.

The stats that were posted show that he wasn't that bad...

The guy has incredible speed. I see him being a pro bowler in years to come.

[MichaelWinicki]

OK...for those to lazy to find stats themselves here ya go...posted by Adam in January...



You were saying??????


That sir was a slap!

[MichaelWinicki]

The bigger question is: Can someone be banned for just being so obliviously stupid?


LOL!

:D

[jimmy40]

He's smart, but he doesn't watch much football. :D





The Eagles have been blitzing less and less over the last couple of years. They weren't a big blitzing team last year.

By the way, we were a blitz happy team in 2003, when we finished with the #1 defense in the NFL. Is Mario Edwards a probowl caliber CB now too?Blitz happy? I remember us being blitz happy against Drew Bledsoe, of course it worked against him and I do remember seeing Dat flat on his back quite a few times so I guess we did try to blitz a little more then. We were the #1 defense(lol) with Edwards and we weren't without him and we just spent a lot of money to try to replace him so maybe he wasn't that bad after all. I know we were missing Woody but we don't seem to be too worried about replacing him.

[Rack Bauer]

Blitz happy?


It's an expression. Means we blitzed a lot. And we did, in 2003.

[jimmy40]

It's an expression. Means we blitzed a lot. And we did, in 2003.We still didn't get to the QB though so I guess Edwards wasn't that bad.

[BlueStar II]

Let's all hope that Newman will benefit from an increased pass rush, and "hopefully"...the pass rush will increase. While I'm hoping to see Newman show us all just why we picked him when we did, however...at this point, I'm not going to make any bets on it that he will though. I would like to think that he will, but his performance last year gave me a reason to be cautious about what we can hope to see from him this year.

[jimmy40]

He's better then any CB on the Eagles roster and one of their CBs made the probowl.


Amazing what a pass rush can do for a CB.You guys keep propping up Dallas' players by talking down Philly's players but they keep kicking our ***. Maybe they aren't as bad as you guys would like to believe.

[Seven]

I have enough football knowledge to know you can't blitz every play if your corners can't cover.

Who the hell said anything about blitzing?? A pass rush is the down linemen.......... a blitz is a blitz. Rack never said blitz. The entire defense stunk it up and it is completely unfair to judge a single athlete playing on that side of the ball, for Dallas, as of last year. Because of the entire group sucking there will be 10 million reasons for any one guy stinking up the joint and not 1 truly valid one. Just can't do it. IMO.