View Full Version : The Giants' schedule gets dangerously easier after the Packers game.
Red Dragon
11-26-2011, 10:41 AM
After the Giants play the Cowboys in Arlington, they essentially get three consecutive home games to close out the season.
They host the Redskins.
They play "at" the Jets, but it's all at the Meadowlands, so it's really a home game.
They host the Cowboys to close out the season.
The Giants will never have to leave New York again, after visiting Dallas for their last road game. And the Redskins and Jets will probably be very defeatable opponents indeed.
The Cowboys have absolutely no margin for error, moving forward.
superonyx
11-26-2011, 10:46 AM
Redskins Jets and Cowboys doesn't sound very easy to me.
Red Dragon
11-26-2011, 10:48 AM
Redskins Jets and Cowboys doesn't sound very easy to me.
The 3-8 Redskins have been owned by the Giants in recent years, and have nothing to play for.
The Jets look very beatable of late.
And the Cowboys - if you're an NY fan, you've got to like your chances, at home, against Dallas.
Heisenberg
11-26-2011, 10:50 AM
The 3-8 Redskins have been owned by the Giants in recent years, and have nothing to play for.
The Jets look very beatable of late.
And the Cowboys - if you're an NY fan, you've got to like your chances, at home, against Dallas.
The 3-8 Redskins beat the Giants to open the season.
The Jets will be tough.
The Cowboys will be tough.
Venger
11-26-2011, 10:51 AM
Cowboys need to take care of business and just split with the Giants. That should get 'er done.
Tricericon
11-26-2011, 10:52 AM
They play "at" the Jets, but it's all at the Meadowlands, so it's really a home game.
I always thought that if the NFL insists on playing those silly London games that, at least in the years the New York teams play each other, the team designated "away" for the New Jersey Bowl should be the team to lose a home game to the London matchup. That way, everyone still has eight.
superonyx
11-26-2011, 10:53 AM
The 3-8 Redskins have been owned by the Giants in recent years, and have nothing to play for.
The Jets look very beatable of late.
And the Cowboys - if you're an NY fan, you've got to like your chances, at home, against Dallas.
I'm not a ny fan. I'm a Dallas fan and there is no such thing as a divisional game that's scary easy.
Do you really think the jets won't be playing for anything.
It's the battle of ny . It matters.
Remember the redskins team we just barely beat?
Not easy
SDogo
11-26-2011, 10:55 AM
After the Giants play the Cowboys in Arlington, they essentially get three consecutive home games to close out the season.
They host the Redskins.
They play "at" the Jets, but it's all at the Meadowlands, so it's really a home game.
They host the Cowboys to close out the season.
The Giants will never have to leave New York again, after visiting Dallas for their last road game. And the Redskins and Jets will probably be very defeatable opponents indeed.
The Cowboys have absolutely no margin for error, moving forward.
Did anyone see the Giants losing to the Eagles last week with Vince Young at QB?
You never know, 1 week at a time.
Suave
11-26-2011, 10:59 AM
The 3-8 Redskins beat the Giants to open the season.
The Jets will be tough.
The Cowboys will be tough.
Yep, because the Jets are also fighting for a playoff spot; they will play just as desperately as the Giants.
The Giants' next three games will pretty much decide their season; if the Giants lose all three, and the Cowboys win their next three, then the Cowboys could clinch the division. Of course, the Eagles losing to the Patriots tomorrow would help.
If the Giants go 0-3 in their next three games, then their so-called "easy schedule" to close the season won't matter because even if they win their last three games, the best they could do is finish second in the division.
Risen Star
11-26-2011, 11:04 AM
Redskins Jets and Cowboys doesn't sound very easy to me.
I agree. Two divisional opponents that almost always give them a hard time and their comparable New York counterparts that share the home field.
Not easy in the least.
Red Dragon
11-26-2011, 11:23 AM
I always thought that if the NFL insists on playing those silly London games that, at least in the years the New York teams play each other, the team designated "away" for the New Jersey Bowl should be the team to lose a home game to the London matchup. That way, everyone still has eight.
Good thought.
GloryDaysRBack
11-26-2011, 11:28 AM
this thread is retarded
2 games vs us in itself make their schedule not "dangerously easy"...this isnt even mentioning a jets team who is at worst, equal to the giants..
/thread
dargonking999
11-26-2011, 11:37 AM
So even though they just lost to a Philly team minus Vick at home you're saying that it should be easy to beat the Redskins (who beat them earlier in the year) and the Cowboys (who beat them last year? And have actually beaten the Giants 3 of the last 5 times in NY.)
You 'fans' are just silly.
The 3-8 Redskins have been owned by the Giants in recent years, and have nothing to play for.
The Jets look very beatable of late.
And the Cowboys - if you're an NY fan, you've got to like your chances, at home, against Dallas.
They still have to get trough the packers and saints they could easily be down to game to us going into our home game
StylisticS
11-26-2011, 12:00 PM
The Jets could be our best friend next month. They are going to be desperate all next month and could knock out both teams from playoff contention. Those being Eagles and Giants.
CowboysFanSince88
11-26-2011, 12:12 PM
Redskins Jets and Cowboys doesn't sound very easy to me.
Redskins does
tecolote
11-26-2011, 12:13 PM
So even though they just lost to a Philly team minus Vick at home you're saying that it should be easy to beat the Redskins (who beat them earlier in the year) and the Cowboys (who beat them last year? And have actually beaten the Giants 3 of the last 5 times in NY.)
You 'fans' are just silly.
And not to mention the fact that Eli absolutely sucks playing at home.
CowboysFanSince88
11-26-2011, 12:14 PM
And not to mention the fact that Eli absolutely sucks playing at home.
Yeah I noticed that, he plays his worst when he is in NY-lol
Cowboys&LakersFan
11-26-2011, 12:16 PM
After the Giants play the Cowboys in Arlington, they essentially get three consecutive home games to close out the season.
They host the Redskins.
They play "at" the Jets, but it's all at the Meadowlands, so it's really a home game.
They host the Cowboys to close out the season.
The Giants will never have to leave New York again, after visiting Dallas for their last road game. And the Redskins and Jets will probably be very defeatable opponents indeed.
The Cowboys have absolutely no margin for error, moving forward.
Easy schedule? :laugh2:
First of all they're gonna lose to New Orleans and Green Bay so that definitely gives Dallas a margin for error. Second of all in what world is playing the Jets, Cowboys, and Skins an easy schedule? They could easily lose all three of those games. We just saw how the Skins nearly knocked off the rival Cowboys. No reason why they can't upset their other rival the Giants especially considering the fact they already beat them once this year. As far as the Jets they just need Sanchez to get back on track. Doesn't have to be great, but just stop giving the ball away and if he does they can still make the playoffs.
Our magic number to win this division is 10 IMO. If we beat Zona, beat Philly, and Tampa Bay then we probably don't even have to win either of the games against NYG.
CowboysFanSince88
11-26-2011, 12:25 PM
Easy schedule? :laugh2:
First of all they're gonna lose to New Orleans and Green Bay so that definitely gives Dallas a margin for error. Second of all in what world is playing the Jets, Cowboys, and Skins an easy schedule? They could easily lose all three of those games. We just saw how the Skins nearly knocked off the rival Cowboys. No reason why they can't upset their other rival the Giants especially considering the fact they already beat them once this year. As far as the Jets they just need Sanchez to get back on track. Doesn't have to be great, but just stop giving the ball away and if he does they can still make the playoffs.
Our magic number to win this division is 10 IMO. If we beat Zona, beat Philly, and Tampa Bay then we probably don't even have to win either of the games against NYG.
The Giants seem to play better on the road which means a win on monday night at New orleans wouldn't surprise me at all. Now they will probably lose to GB at home but I see them playing the Saints tough on MNF
I could care less about their schedule or the Eagles schedule. Our team just needs to handle it's own business and win games. If we do that, nothing else matters. Plus, I don't want to back in to the playoffs.
Galian Beast
11-26-2011, 12:42 PM
And not to mention the fact that Eli absolutely sucks playing at home.
Let's not allow facts to get in the way, but his career QB rating is 81.6.
81.4 at home, 81.8 away. He is pretty much exactly the same guy. All of his numbers are right down the middle, it's actually pretty eerie.
He is 3-0 against Buffalo and NYJets combined.
tecolote
11-26-2011, 01:07 PM
Let's not allow facts to get in the way, but his career QB rating is 81.6.
81.4 at home, 81.8 away. He is pretty much exactly the same guy. All of his numbers are right down the middle, it's actually pretty eerie.
He is 3-0 against Buffalo and NYJets combined.
Ok, so he sucks both home and away. :D
I don't know what his numbers are late in the year in high pressure games at home but he seems to fold a lot in those situations.
Except their SB year of course. Freaking Crayton.
Eddie
11-26-2011, 01:32 PM
The Jets will probably be playing for their playoff lives.
They will not lay down.
Rex will do a lot of talking.
Cowboys&LakersFan
11-26-2011, 01:38 PM
I'd be shocked if the Giants finish better than 8-8. The Iggles are not winning out. At best they finish 9-7. All we have to do is finish 3-2 to win the division. It really is ours to lose. We shouldn't settle for the division. If we can win out which is very possible I could easily see us catching the 9ers who still have Pittsburgh and we would just need one of their division foes to pull an upset. Aints have a somewhat easy schedule, but there's a few lose able games on there for them. Lions and Falcons could pull of an upset. #2 seed is not out of reach.
Galian Beast
11-26-2011, 01:39 PM
Yep, because the Jets are also fighting for a playoff spot; they will play just as desperately as the Giants.
The Giants' next three games will pretty much decide their season; if the Giants lose all three, and the Cowboys win their next three, then the Cowboys could clinch the division. Of course, the Eagles losing to the Patriots tomorrow would help.
If the Giants go 0-3 in their next three games, then their so-called "easy schedule" to close the season won't matter because even if they win their last three games, the best they could do is finish second in the division.
The Jets have to go 6-0 just to sniff the playoffs. Rex Ryan is probably coaching for his job at this point. He really made a huge mistake hitching his boat to Sanchez. A bad QB can DESTROY a head coaches career.
BanditHiro
11-26-2011, 01:51 PM
What are you trying to do Red? trying to ruffle the feathers of all the chicken littles on the site?
Mansta54
11-26-2011, 01:55 PM
I could care less about their schedule or the Eagles schedule. Our team just needs to handle it's own business and win games. If we do that, nothing else matters. Plus, I don't want to back in to the playoffs.
Exactly!!!
Risen Star
11-26-2011, 02:05 PM
The Jets have to go 6-0 just to sniff the playoffs. Rex Ryan is probably coaching for his job at this point. He really made a huge mistake hitching his boat to Sanchez. A bad QB can DESTROY a head coaches career.
http://www.clicksmilies.com/s1106/lachen/laughing-smiley-004.gif Rex Ryan is coaching for his job.
I guess you have to make your conference championship game every year or you're out.
The30YardSlant
11-26-2011, 02:15 PM
I agree the Giants are still very much in it, but their schedule is NOT easy. They will be underdogs in each of their next three and possibly in four of their final six. IMO, best case scenario is they go 4-2 the rest of the way, and depending on which four they win and which games we win we might only have to go 3-2 to win the division.
NextGenBoys
11-26-2011, 02:33 PM
Did anyone see the Giants losing to the Eagles last week with Vince Young at QB?
You never know, 1 week at a time.
It is the NFC East after all. That and the AFC North probably have the best divisional games top to bottom. Although the NFC North has really stepped its game up of late haha.
tomson75
11-26-2011, 02:56 PM
There is absolutely NOTHING easy about the Giants schedule for the remainder of the year.
If they make the playoffs, they'll have damn sure earned it....
Suave
11-26-2011, 03:09 PM
The Jets have to go 6-0 just to sniff the playoffs. Rex Ryan is probably coaching for his job at this point. He really made a huge mistake hitching his boat to Sanchez. A bad QB can DESTROY a head coaches career.
The point I was making is that they are a desperate team, and I think they are still a good team that should not be taken lightly. They are not an easy team to play by any stretch.
IheartRomo
11-26-2011, 03:27 PM
We split with the Giants, we win the division. I'm pretty confident with that assessment.
The Emperor
11-26-2011, 04:37 PM
I love your threads, Red Dragon. They expose the foibles of some of the posters around here.
For instance, some of the same realistists who continually downgrade our team are suddenly elevating us in our matchups against the Giants just so they can disagree with you specifically!
If they give out a Voltaire award here, you should win it.
The30YardSlant
11-26-2011, 04:39 PM
I love your threads, Red Dragon. They expose the foibles of some of the posters around here.
For instance, some of the same realistists who continually downgrade our team are suddenly elevating us in our matchups against the Giants just so they can disagree with you specifically!
If they give out a Voltaire award here, you should win it.
Regardless of what someone thinks of our team, nobody would call a road game against a division rival that will probably be 8-4 "easy". Even the most ardent of haters doesnt believe we make the Giants schedule easy.
sonnyboy
11-26-2011, 05:08 PM
After the Giants play the Cowboys in Arlington, they essentially get three consecutive home games to close out the season.
They host the Redskins.
They play "at" the Jets, but it's all at the Meadowlands, so it's really a home game.
They host the Cowboys to close out the season.
The Giants will never have to leave New York again, after visiting Dallas for their last road game. And the Redskins and Jets will probably be very defeatable opponents indeed.
The Cowboys have absolutely no margin for error, moving forward.
The Giants last three games only appear easy when you compare them to the next three.
But there's nothing easy about them. Go try and find a three game stretch among the 10 they've already played that's "harder".
Playing the Jets in a road game in your own stadium is an advantage, but it doesn't make that game easy. I'll bet the Giants would prefer to travel to Arizona and play the Cards that week.
Either way, it really won't matter. I'm guessing they lose the next three and and find themselves eliminated from the playoffs with 7 losses in week 15 or 16 regardless of what they do.
Sarge
11-26-2011, 05:30 PM
Did anyone see the Giants losing to the Eagles last week with Vince Young at QB?
You never know, 1 week at a time.
:signmast:
JoeCorrado
11-26-2011, 05:30 PM
Redskins Jets and Cowboys doesn't sound very easy to me.
My thoughts exactly. :cool:
Primetime42
11-26-2011, 06:53 PM
Who cares?
Take care of your own business and you wont have to worry about "Little blue"
Jimz31
11-26-2011, 06:56 PM
I still think the winner of this division comes down to the last week.
gimmesix
11-26-2011, 07:07 PM
Did anyone see the Giants losing to the Eagles last week with Vince Young at QB?
You never know, 1 week at a time.
That's what I was thinking. Or how about that loss to Seattle at the Meadowlands?
Nothing is easy for the NFC East this year, which is one reason it's ripe for the taking.
sonnyboy
11-26-2011, 07:34 PM
I still think the winner of this division comes down to the last week.
Maybe. My money's on the Cowboys clinching it in TB or back home against the eagles.
If it does go down to the last week, chances are it won't be the Cowboys winning it.
ChldsPlay
11-26-2011, 09:52 PM
The Jets have to go 6-0 just to sniff the playoffs. Rex Ryan is probably coaching for his job at this point. He really made a huge mistake hitching his boat to Sanchez. A bad QB can DESTROY a head coaches career.
You really think they'll have to go 6-0 to overcome being back by 1 game when the team that is ahead of them has a rookie QB and games against Baltimore, Pittsburgh, and Houston?
trickblue
11-26-2011, 10:52 PM
Bottom line... we win... we go to the playoffs... it's all on us...
At this point, we control our destiny...
Red Dragon
11-26-2011, 10:59 PM
I love your threads, Red Dragon. They expose the foibles of some of the posters around here.
For instance, some of the same realistists who continually downgrade our team are suddenly elevating us in our matchups against the Giants just so they can disagree with you specifically!
If they give out a Voltaire award here, you should win it.
Thanks man. Appreciate it.
Red Dragon
11-26-2011, 11:03 PM
There is absolutely NOTHING easy about the Giants schedule for the remainder of the year.
If they make the playoffs, they'll have damn sure earned it....
I'm not saying the Giants' last 3 games will be an absolute piece of cake - no.
But they will be playing all three of their games at home, and they will most likely be favored in every single matchup on an individual basis.
It's also well plausible that the Giants steal one of the Saints and Packers games. NY is an extremely up and down team. When they're up, they beat the Patriots at Gillette. When they're down, they lose to the Seahawks at home. Of course, hopefully they'll be in their "down" mode for one of their last three games.
Mansta54
11-26-2011, 11:10 PM
I'm not saying the Giants' last 3 games will be an absolute piece of cake - no.
But they will be playing all three of their games at home, and they will most likely be favored in every single matchup on an individual basis.
It's also well plausible that the Giants steal one of the Saints and Packers games. NY is an extremely up and down team. When they're up, they beat the Patriots at Gillette. When they're down, they lose to the Seahawks at home. Of course, hopefully they'll be in their "down" mode for one of their last three games.
They haven't played well at home this season at all..
Cowboys&LakersFan
11-26-2011, 11:12 PM
I'm not saying the Giants' last 3 games will be an absolute piece of cake - no.
But they will be playing all three of their games at home, and they will most likely be favored in every single matchup on an individual basis.
It's also well plausible that the Giants steal one of the Saints and Packers games. NY is an extremely up and down team. When they're up, they beat the Patriots at Gillette. When they're down, they lose to the Seahawks at home. Of course, hopefully they'll be in their "down" mode for one of their last three games.
:laugh2:
The G-Girls are a terrible home team.
CowboysFanSince88
11-26-2011, 11:13 PM
:laugh2:
The G-Girls are a terrible home team.
Which means they will beat the Saints on Monday and the Cowboys in dallas
Mansta54
11-26-2011, 11:16 PM
Which means they will beat the Saints on Monday and the Cowboys in dallas
No, it doesn't mean that at all. It means what it says, they're a terrible team at home..:rolleyes:
CowboysFanSince88
11-26-2011, 11:20 PM
No, it doesn't mean that at all. It means what it says, they're a terrible team at home..:rolleyes:
But that means they play better on the road right?
On the Road
Beat Eagles
Beat Pats
At Home
loss to seahawks
barley beat dolphins
loss to eagles
barley beat bills
SaltwaterServr
11-27-2011, 12:49 AM
But that means they play better on the road right?
On the Road
Beat Eagles
Beat Pats
At Home
loss to seahawks
barley beat dolphins
loss to eagles
barley beat bills
Really? :laugh2:
On the road:
Loss at Washington
Loss at San Francisco
Barely beat Arizona
Cowboys&LakersFan
11-27-2011, 01:01 AM
Which means they will beat the Saints on Monday and the Cowboys in dallas
Not a snowball's chance in hell that happens.
dargonking999
11-27-2011, 07:13 AM
But that means they play better on the road right?
On the Road
Beat Eagles
Beat Pats
At Home
loss to seahawks
barley beat dolphins
loss to eagles
barley beat bills
I love how you ignored there loss the 49ers and redskins, and the almost loss against the cardinals ...all on the road.
Hoofbite
11-27-2011, 08:46 AM
Not entirely sure why it matters what their schedule looks like. They're in the trailing position and need to get through this early stretch and beat Dallas both times in all likelihood.
Red Dragon
11-27-2011, 09:16 AM
Not a snowball's chance in hell that happens.
Why is there "not a snowball's chance in hell" that the Giants could manage to defeat the 7-3 Saints in New Orleans and the 7-5 or 8-4 Cowboys in Dallas?
Certainly much more implausible feats have been pulled off by NFL teams in the past, in history.
Risen Star
11-27-2011, 09:19 AM
Not entirely sure why it matters what their schedule looks like. They're in the trailing position and need to get through this early stretch and beat Dallas both times in all likelihood.
Because the more they lose the greater our margin for error.
It's be nice to only have to split with the Giants to win the division without having to hope we win a tiebreaker. We need help for that to happen.
Red Dragon
11-27-2011, 09:20 AM
The 3-8 Redskins beat the Giants to open the season.
Yes, but it was the season opener and the Redskins had significant motivation and stuff to play for. Back then, it was a wide-open season and the Redskins had all kinds of possibilities (finish 10-6, 8-8, 4-12.)
Now the Skins are 3-8 and have little if anything to play for.
fifaguy
11-27-2011, 09:52 AM
After the Giants play the Cowboys in Arlington, they essentially get three consecutive home games to close out the season.
They host the Redskins.
They play "at" the Jets, but it's all at the Meadowlands, so it's really a home game.
They host the Cowboys to close out the season.
The Giants will never have to leave New York again, after visiting Dallas for their last road game. And the Redskins and Jets will probably be very defeatable opponents indeed.
The Cowboys have absolutely no margin for error, moving forward.
They play the Jets, and us twice. We just need to keep winning and playing well. I never understood worrying about what other teams do. We've done that before and failed if I remember correctly. Just take care of our business...
sunbum
11-27-2011, 10:04 AM
I'm not saying the Giants' last 3 games will be an absolute piece of cake - no.
I don't know.....calling the remainder of the schedule after the Packers game dangerously easy sounds like "a piece of cakes to me". Also, 2 of those 4 games are against the Cowboys so your OP, which is silly, sounds like there's no aim other than shock value and getting a rise outta folks.
CowboysFanSince88
11-27-2011, 11:54 AM
Why is there "not a snowball's chance in hell" that the Giants could manage to defeat the 7-3 Saints in New Orleans and the 7-5 or 8-4 Cowboys in Dallas?
Certainly much more implausible feats have been pulled off by NFL teams in the past, in history.
Exactly.
CowboysFanSince88
11-27-2011, 11:55 AM
I love how you ignored there loss the 49ers and redskins, and the almost loss against the cardinals ...all on the road.
I could have put the niners up there since they played them tight. And I didn't include the skins because whatever happens in week 1 means nothing now
Red Dragon
11-27-2011, 11:58 AM
I don't know.....calling the remainder of the schedule after the Packers game dangerously easy sounds like "a piece of cakes to me". Also, 2 of those 4 games are against the Cowboys so your OP, which is silly, sounds like there's no aim other than shock value and getting a rise outta folks.
The main idea is that the Cowboys will not be able to count on any outside help.
The only teams that the Giants will play after Green Bay, other than the Cowboys, are the Redskins and Jets.
Neither the Redskins nor Jets can be reliably counted on to beat the Giants for us.
Also, it's not just a matter of New York's schedule. While the Giants are playing the Redskins and Jets, Dallas will be playing the Buccaneers and Eagles. Granted, that's not a much harder schedule. But I do think it's reasonable to say that after the Pack@Giants game is over, the ball will be in Dallas' court.
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