PFW: Cowboys preparing for Rob Ryan's potential exit

[Arch Stanton]

Cowboys preparing for Rob Ryan's potential exit

Posted Dec. 02, 2011 @ 3:10 a.m. ET
By Eric Edholm
We hear that, quietly behind closed doors at Valley Ranch, the Cowboys' powers-that-be already are canvassing potential defensive coordinator candidates around the league and already on staff who could replace Rob Ryan if he's given an opportunity to be a head coach elsewhere

Read more:http://www.profootballweekly.com/2011/12/02/cowboys-preparing-for-rob-ryans-potential-exit

[CCBoy]

Business as usual in the NFL...and Jason Garrett would survive this change, if it were to occur. I don't know, Rob Ryan might want a while in the Dallas environment before actually plodding off in the middle of the night, so to speak.

[Risen Star]

Business as usual in the NFL...and Jason Garrett would survive this change, if it were to occur. I don't know, Rob Ryan might want a while in the Dallas environment before actually plodding off in the middle of the night, so to speak.

He'll take the first head coaching job he's offered.

[DCBoysfan]

He'll take the first head coaching job he's offered.

As he should

[CosmicCowboy]

Dom Capers.....:pray:

[Heisenberg]

As he should

Yup. I don't think it's ever a good idea to pass up head coaching gigs since you never know when you'll get another opportunity.

I guess it worked out in Jason Garrett's case though. :D

[hmcorp]

As he should

The only place he could realistically go is San diego.

Maybe philly.

Other than that it is a dead end.

[Risen Star]

As he should

Oh, definitely. I'm not criticizing him. He's got to look after himself.

Sucks, but it is what it is. We knew he wasn't for long here. I'm hoping we get one more season.

[DBOY3141]

The only place he could realistically go is San diego.

Maybe philly.

Other than that it is a dead end.

Jacksonville. No experienced coach will go there, knowing they will be moving and lack of fan support. Ryan make bring some exposure with him being a "character".

[CCBoy]

He'll take the first head coaching job he's offered.

Yep, sure thing, all young soldiers aspire to retire The General of the Armed Forces....only thing is, some settle in at some point, and enjoy that. Once upon a time, in a mythical kingdom known as the Land of the Eagles....a fine Defensive Coordinator tended to the business of war for his Head Coach, Dan Reid. Oh, that was the Arch Bishop - Jim Johnson. Thus endith the reading from the Oracles....

No, one doesn't chose the grit another man chooses for his own career. Not all people have glory as their rewards. Pride in job is a real motivator...even today. And no, all peoples aren't suddenly removed off the field at age thirty as well....for there is now Federal Legislation that defines that as Age Descrimination as well.

This call is Rob's...and Jerry doesn't stand in the way on these matters.

[ThreeSportStar80]

Hmmm there are a lot of good young 3-4 coaches out there... I'm sure Jason and Jerry will snatch one up.

[Hostile]

Dom Capers.....:pray:I believe so, but I am not convinced Ryan is leaving yet. If we make a deep run, he won't be. Teams are not willing to wait that long for Head Coaches to emerge from the winners.

[hmcorp]

Jacksonville. No experienced coach will go there, knowing they will be moving and lack of fan support. Ryan make bring some exposure with him being a "character".

No. If they are idiots they bring a 3-4 coach in to try to alter a 4th ranked 4-3 defense when it is the offense that sucks and needs improving in jacksonville. the owner would have to be a moron to take a top 5 defense and change it with rob ryan rather than bring in an offensive minded coach like billick or something like that.

[Don Corleone]

I believe so, but I am not convinced Ryan is leaving yet. If we make a deep run, he won't be. Teams are not willing to wait that long for Head Coaches to emerge from the winners.

This. Most teams name new head coaches shortly after week 17. If there is a long playoff run for Dallas (hopefully ending in Feb), then he stays. That would be a whole month lost for another team to wait on him. Most teams name new HCs by mid January.

[burmafrd]

that is BS about taking any HC job offered. Danny Boy anyone?

[DCBoysfan]

The only place he could realistically go is San diego.

Maybe philly.

Other than that it is a dead end.

Not really there will be more openings in the off-season. It also depends on Gurden and Cowher.

[DCBoysfan]

Oh, definitely. I'm not criticizing him. He's got to look after himself.

Sucks, but it is what it is. We knew he wasn't for long here. I'm hoping we get one more season.


I would love to see him get another year and a full training camp with us.

[Chocolate Lab]

We hear that, quietly behind closed doors at Valley Ranch, the Cowboys' powers-that-be already are canvassing potential defensive coordinator candidates around the league and already on staff who could replace Rob Ryan if he's given an opportunity to be a head coach elsewhere

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[hmcorp]

Not really there will be more openings in the off-season. It also depends on Gurden and Cowher.


I think spags gets one more year in st. louis.

wisenhunt another year.

caldwell is up in the air cause the owner likes him and feels he has had a bad rap with the peyton thing but thats a 50/50 thing.

norv is gone.
cincinattis coach is going nowhere. titans coach nowhere. bucs coach is going nowhere the glazers love him and will give him another year. minnesota just got that coach so nope. giants? I think they give coughlin one more year. reid in philly? one more year (that d cord is fired).

sparano? tough call if he goes 7-9 or better he may stay.
buffalo? first year no way they fire him.
jets? no way even if he ruined sanchez.

houston? no.
cleveland? no.
washington? no he will give him another year.

I think there wont be as many coaching changes as people think. this offseason wil protect a few guys.

[CCBoy]

that is BS about taking any HC job offered. Danny Boy anyone?

:D :suxskins:

[tomsanders921]

Don't look now, but Wade Phillips and the Texans have the top ranked defense in the league!!!!

[hmcorp]

Don't look now, but Wade Phillips and the Texans have the top ranked defense in the league!!!!


still wont win when it matters per the usual.

[ABQCOWBOY]

Jacksonville. No experienced coach will go there, knowing they will be moving and lack of fan support. Ryan make bring some exposure with him being a "character".

I don't really see Jacksonville going for a coach like Ryan, although I could be completely wrong there. Jacksonville already has a decent Defensive staff in place. Now, that doesn't mean they will keep those guys but I would think that it might be logical for them to do so and then maybe go after an offensive coach as HC. That's where they need massive improvement. They are dead last in the NFL offensively. They are top 5 defensively.

[Carolina Cowboy]

I believe so, but I am not convinced Ryan is leaving yet. If we make a deep run, he won't be. Teams are not willing to wait that long for Head Coaches to emerge from the winners.

... but why would he leave GB for the same role in Dallas? Money?

[jimnabby]

still wont win when it matters per the usual.Well, yeah, but Schaub going down isn't Wade's fault.

[jimnabby]

Cowboys preparing for Rob Ryan's potential exitWell, duh. I would hope they're working on succession plans for every coach.

[hmcorp]

Well, yeah, but Schaub going down isn't Wade's fault.


there is always an excuse built in too.

always for him. 40 years of excuses.

[REDVOLUTION]

Business as usual in the NFL...and Jason Garrett would survive this change, if it were to occur. I don't know, Rob Ryan might want a while in the Dallas environment before actually plodding off in the middle of the night, so to speak.


He wants his shot. He is out the door if its offered.



He'll take the first head coaching job he's offered.

The only place he could realistically go is San diego.

Maybe philly.

Other than that it is a dead end.


If he does leave and take a head coaching job and its San Diego over Philly (if both availabe to him).

I will stop posting for 1 year if he chooses SD over Philly.




I believe he is dying to take over in Philly and get the job done (ode to pappa buddy)

[BraveHeartFan]

I hope he stays at least one more year. Give himself a full offseason to really put his defense to work with a team.

But I won't blame him in the least for leaving if he gets an offer that he likes.

[kTXe]

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[Idgit]

If Nolan's available, should we make a move anyway, to upgrade that coaching position with someone who's also likely to be longer-term?

[JoeCorrado]

He'll take the first head coaching job he's offered.

Which will not come this year. Ryan stays in Dallas for another season at the least. Guaranteed.

Much ado about nothing folks.

[AbeBeta]

I still think Rob is going to be less hot a candidate than the quality of his work would suggest. His look and his mouth ... well, his overall image. These things just don't jibe with what many owners want for the guy who lead their club.

I continue to be shocked that he ever got away from the Raiders. In any team and their fans would embrace him it would be the Raider Nation

[Idgit]

I still think Rob is going to be less hot a candidate than the quality of his work would suggest. His look and his mouth ... well, his overall image. These things just don't jibe with what many owners want for the guy who lead their club.

I continue to be shocked that he ever got away from the Raiders. In any team and their fans would embrace him it would be the Raider Nation

I think he'll be about as hot a candidate as he work will suggest. In other words, I think he's sticking around another year. There are better coordinators ahead of him on both sides of the ball, and his brother not making headlines doesn't help him. You're right, too, that on the PR front, there are a lot of teams who will avoid a candidate like that.

He may get a few interviews, and at some point he'll get his shot, but he doesn't, honestly, deserve to be a hot commodity at this point.

[Manwiththeplan]

Cowboys preparing for Rob Ryan's potential exit

Posted Dec. 02, 2011 @ 3:10 a.m. ET
By Eric Edholm
We hear that, quietly behind closed doors at Valley Ranch, the Cowboys' powers-that-be already are canvassing potential defensive coordinator candidates around the league and already on staff who could replace Rob Ryan if he's given an opportunity to be a head coach elsewhere

Read more:http://www.profootballweekly.com/2011/12/02/cowboys-preparing-for-rob-ryans-potential-exit

I doubt he gets an offer. I think there will be openings in

Jacksonville, Miami and Kansas City. IMO, Jacksonville will likely go with an offensive guy to help Gabbert. Miami will too imo, since they will likely go QB in round 1. If KC fired Haley, they could go after Rob Ryan. Him and Pioli were in NE together, but I'd say Haley getting fired is 50/50.

If Rob Ryan goes, I'd put my money on Mike Nolan, whom I'd prefer only because he won't get HC interviews.

[casmith07]

Won't hurt my feelings if he leaves.

[chip_gilkey]

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Don't even joke like that.

[Eskimo]

I believe so, but I am not convinced Ryan is leaving yet. If we make a deep run, he won't be. Teams are not willing to wait that long for Head Coaches to emerge from the winners.

I think Garrett has to act knowing that Ryan will show us no loyalty should a HC spot become available and we should show no loyalty if a good DC candidate without major HC aspirations becomes available.

In short, if a top DC who was a former HC becomes available then we should make the move to get some stability at the spot going into the future. I'm thinking of a guy like Nolan from Miami or Capers from GB. We need to aggressively recruit them if they are available at the end of the year. If Ryan doesn't get a shot maybe he can come back as a position coach (? secondary) or pursue DC elsewhere.

[Arch Stanton]

If Nolan's available, should we make a move anyway, to upgrade that coaching position with someone who's also likely to be longer-term?

Capers or Nolan would work for me.

[Randy White]

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SOMEBODY is asking for a public pepper spray shower..

[Cowboys&LakersFan]

Really hope he returns to Dallas. He's been the main reason our defense went from awful to solid.

[Cowboys&LakersFan]

Double post.

[Randy White]

sparano? tough call if he goes 7-9 or better he may stay. .

Excuse me, no personal offense, but: :lmao2: :lmao2: :lmao2:

I have a better shot at going out on all expenses paid, week long date in a secluded tropical island with ALL of the Dallas Cowboys cheerleaders with nothing but food, drinks, and an air conditioned extra large beach hut where the only guy is ME.

[jterrell]

Dallas likely makes the playoffs but not a deep run.

Odds were always extremely high Rob was one and done here.

He wants a head coaching gig and cares not about the situation. He is cocky enough to think he'll turn them into winners regardless.

And teams will want a guy who can sale tickets. Rob can do that.

We should appeal quite a lot to DCs though. Asst's here get head jobs if we win and you have the best pass rusher in football.

[jterrell]

I doubt he gets an offer. I think there will be openings in

Jacksonville, Miami and Kansas City. IMO, Jacksonville will likely go with an offensive guy to help Gabbert. Miami will too imo, since they will likely go QB in round 1. If KC fired Haley, they could go after Rob Ryan. Him and Pioli were in NE together, but I'd say Haley getting fired is 50/50.

If Rob Ryan goes, I'd put my money on Mike Nolan, whom I'd prefer only because he won't get HC interviews.

We are far enough way from the end of the season to have no idea how many openings there will be but to know Ryan will be on the short list for most jobs.

He is very likely going to be gone. Always was the case.

[Bigdog]

... but why would he leave GB for the same role in Dallas? Money?

Because Capers have been rumored that he likes working with Garrett. I believe his contract is up after this year. If I remember straight this was talked about to death last year regarding when his contract expire.

[Idgit]

Dallas likely makes the playoffs but not a deep run.

Odds were always extremely high Rob was one and done here.

He wants a head coaching gig and cares not about the situation. He is cocky enough to think he'll turn them into winners regardless.

And teams will want a guy who can sale tickets. Rob can do that.

We should appeal quite a lot to DCs though. Asst's here get head jobs if we win and you have the best pass rusher in football.

I'd be surprised if he gets more than two interviews this offseason. Or if he's the front-runner for either of the interviews he does get.

Where'd he interview last offseason as HC? CAR, where he lost out to a guy who'd been rumored to have bombed every HC interview he'd had prior. And at OAK, was it?

He might end up with an offer--and he's put in his time and has a track record that definitely makes him worthy of consideration--but I think it's far from a given that he'll be gone.

And, for the record, I think DeCamillis is more likely to get an interview for JAX than Ryan is. And I think he'd be a better HC, frankly.

[AbeBeta]

I think he'll be about as hot a candidate as he work will suggest. In other words, I think he's sticking around another year. There are better coordinators ahead of him on both sides of the ball, and his brother not making headlines doesn't help him. You're right, too, that on the PR front, there are a lot of teams who will avoid a candidate like that.

He may get a few interviews, and at some point he'll get his shot, but he doesn't, honestly, deserve to be a hot commodity at this point.

I haven't been terribly impressed with him this year. He plays a very aggressive D. That is fun to watch. I'll take that any day over a Parcells D. However, unless you are really really good, you are going to get burned over and over in that D. And we've been getting burned, often by QBs who really have no business burning us.

He has, of course, been limited by our already somewhat questionable DB crew being hurt and an injured Sean Lee - it seemed that in previous stops he had less talent but made more of it.

[CoCo]

Capers, Nolan and perhaps Eberflus would presumably be the front-runners.

And I tend to agree that both Ryan's are a bit overrated as both DC's and HC's. Their teams/units can look impressive as all getout at times but something about Buddy & Rex that makes me think in the end they don't get it done and wear out their welcome in the process. A bit too controversial for their own good.

[RW Hitman]

Yup. I don't think it's ever a good idea to pass up head coaching gigs since you never know when you'll get another opportunity.

I guess it worked out in Jason Garrett's case though. :D

honestly, I may be alone in thinking I would not even consider a HC'ing job in the NFL if I was a coordinator, but that would be the case if that was me. HC's get shown the door more and more often, expected to produce results with crappy teams and must be done today. Just too unstable.

Coordinators jobs on the other hand I think are more universal in that you can do it anywhere without being in the spotlight like a HC, without being a scapegoat.

[JonJon]

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[JonJon]

I've been wanting to ask this question for a while, but never got around to it. But it is one I would like to hear different opinions on:

Does anyone think that Ryan may have intentionally called that game bad against the Eagles? Think about it: His dad coached there, so I'm sure he has some sort of loyalty to that team. The Cowboys defense has never looked that bad this entire season. I've never seen so many players out of place like they were in that game. I don't think he would ever do that, but then again, he is a Ryan. Thoughts?

[Mash]

I've been wanting to ask this question for a while, but never got around to it. But it is one I would like to hear different opinions on:

Does anyone think that Ryan may have intentionally called that game bad against the Eagles? Think about it: His dad coached there, so I'm sure he has some sort of loyalty to that team. The Cowboys defense has never looked that bad this entire season. I've never seen so many players out of place like they were in that game. I don't think he would ever do that, but then again, he is a Ryan. Thoughts?

Very unlikely.....I cant see a coach ever doing that. In fact...I think Ryan wanted nothing more then to shut down the Eagles.

JMHO

[newlander]

I haven't been terribly impressed with him this year. He plays a very aggressive D. That is fun to watch. I'll take that any day over a Parcells D. However, unless you are really really good, you are going to get burned over and over in that D. And we've been getting burned, often by QBs who really have no business burning us.

He has, of course, been limited by our already somewhat questionable DB crew being hurt and an injured Sean Lee - it seemed that in previous stops he had less talent but made more of it.



...with Abe and Idgit on this:he's creative in terms of scheming but overall.....we're just solid, not special. I REALLY don't see him going anywhere. Philly will go for someone much more experienced and established IF they have an opening:see Jon Gruden. J-ville will not look at him IMO because it's a new ownership group and they can NOT afford to gamble with a guy that's a loose cannon quite frankly. He'll be here one more year, I really believe that.

[CoCo]

I've been wanting to ask this question for a while, but never got around to it. But it is one I would like to hear different opinions on:

Does anyone think that Ryan may have intentionally called that game bad against the Eagles? Think about it: His dad coached there, so I'm sure he has some sort of loyalty to that team. The Cowboys defense has never looked that bad this entire season. I've never seen so many players out of place like they were in that game. I don't think he would ever do that, but then again, he is a Ryan. Thoughts?

I am always shocked when people ask questions like this. I am so non-conspiracy theory by nature. I just can't believe that people actually consider things like this.

[Don Corleone]

I am always shocked when people ask questions like this. I am so non-conspiracy theory by nature. I just can't believe that people actually consider things like this.

If anything, he would want to prove that he is a good d-coordinator in front of the Eagles and their home crowd.

[landryscorner]

I don't think we'll miss him. And, for the most part I don't think fans and media have been that impressed so far.

[landryscorner]

And, really how does this season secure him an official head coaching position?

Sure, he has somewhat improved the defense a bit but who's to know we wouldn't of had a good year with another DC I mean Cowboys D had an off year last year. Teams that are taking in all the hype about him will be disappointed I think but seriously if he leaves "so what".

[AmishCowboy]

I've been wanting to ask this question for a while, but never got around to it. But it is one I would like to hear different opinions on:

Does anyone think that Ryan may have intentionally called that game bad against the Eagles? Think about it: His dad coached there, so I'm sure he has some sort of loyalty to that team. The Cowboys defense has never looked that bad this entire season. I've never seen so many players out of place like they were in that game. I don't think he would ever do that, but then again, he is a Ryan. Thoughts? I can't even believe you would say something like this.

[Eskimo]

Because Capers have been rumored that he likes working with Garrett. I believe his contract is up after this year. If I remember straight this was talked about to death last year regarding when his contract expire.

Yes those rumours were rampant last year but it turned out Capers had an extra year on his deal.

I'd love to bring that guy here and he really should have been our DC since 2008 but Wade didn't want him because he was a Garrett guy. Instead we got Brian Stewart who was demoted mid-season and then run out of town. Wade really messed this franchise up. It is shameful how much further along we could be right now if Jerry had just had the courage to hire Garrett as HC back in 2007. All he had to do was hire himself a former HC to act as asst HC to help Garrett learn the ropes.

[theogt]

Anyone but Dom Capers. Good thing is, he has no reason to leave Green Bay. Nolan would be awesome and potentially available if they decide to shake up that staff.

[Eskimo]

Anyone but Dom Capers. Good thing is, he has no reason to leave Green Bay. Nolan would be awesome and potentially available if they decide to shake up that staff.

The thing is it is more likely to be Capers than anyone else because Garrett has already petitioned for him in the past, his contract is up and he apparently has a good relationship with Garrett.

I would like Nolan, too.

What do you have against Capers? He seems to do a good job in GB despite a constant array of injuries.