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CCBoy
12-03-2011, 10:38 AM
Robinson gets another chance to show he deserves long-term deal
Posted on 12/03/2011 by torsborn


http://blog.mysanantonio.com/nfl/2011/12/robinson-gets-another-chance-to-show-he-deserves-long-term-deal/



With Miles Austin out again with a hamstring injury, the receiving spotlight once again falls on the Laurent Robinson.

Robinson has flourished during Austin’s absence, catching an NFL-best seven touchdown passes in the last five games.

It’s a performance that could result in him receiving a hefty raise next season. He signed a one-year deal with Dallas in September.

“I let my agent take care of that stuff,” Robinson told reporters in Irving. “I don’t really want to think like that. I’m just happy to be on a team that’s winning and I’m able to contribute. It’s early for me to think like that. But I’m sure my agent is figuring all that stuff out.”

This much is certain: Robinson has earned the trust of Tony Romo, which could be the determining factor in whether the Cowboys re-sign him after the season....

big dog cowboy
12-03-2011, 12:42 PM
Robinson gets another chance to show he deserves long-term deal


Does he really need it? An NFL-best seven touchdown passes in the last five games and you need more evidence?

bbailey423
12-03-2011, 01:34 PM
why is the local media on a weekly basis now campaigning for Robinson to get a new deal? We got this guy off the street 8 weeks ago....and we know EVERYTHING we need to know about this guy to make him a fixture for the next 4 or 5 years? I never trust the Dallas media and I always feel like they have an agenda against Jerry Jones. Had Jerry given this guy a deal when the media was NOT asking for it...they would have said he has jumped the gun on Robinson. So because Jerry has not given this guy a new deal, they are writing articles that in an indirect way are criticzing Jones for not giving this guy a new deal. So in other words, no matter WHAT Jerry decides to do, they will say he should do the opposite.

AKATheRake
12-03-2011, 01:40 PM
If Demarcus Ware could wait on his deal, which he did. Than anyone could in my eyes.

Eddie
12-03-2011, 01:41 PM
We lucked out big time with Robinson. But I think Romo makes him a better WR as well.

AKATheRake
12-03-2011, 01:47 PM
If Robinson like's it here and isn't just looking for the pay day, he'll get something done with Jerry.

Other teams gave up on him because of his injury history and we gave him a chance. He's stepping up and making the best of it. That's what it is all about. Getting the opportunity and seizing it.

Not as drastic as Marc Columbo was injury wise, but Columbo was forever loyal to this team and gave us his heart. Rewarded us for as long as he was physically capable of.

This may be a similar reward. Just has to be at a realistic price. A Patrick Crayton type of deal.

Eskimo
12-03-2011, 02:17 PM
If Robinson like's it here and isn't just looking for the pay day, he'll get something done with Jerry.

Other teams gave up on him because of his injury history and we gave him a chance. He's stepping up and making the best of it. That's what it is all about. Getting the opportunity and seizing it.

Not as drastic as Marc Columbo was injury wise, but Columbo was forever loyal to this team and gave us his heart. Rewarded us for as long as he was physically capable of.

This may be a similar reward. Just has to be at a realistic price. A Patrick Crayton type of deal.

It depends on the cost because we are already on the hook for Miles and Dez is on a 5-year rookie deal so the two starter positions are locked up. We do have to keep in the mind the budget with Robinson as you shouldn't spend too much of your cap dollars at WR.

I do agree with the price tag - Patrick Crayton type money. I think 4 years $14M would be fair to all parties. Jones should have done this deal 1 month ago. Right now I see Robinson testing FA and getting an offer we will choose not to match. It is unfortunate because he works well here with Romo on an improvisational basis to get big plays. That will not happen anywhere else in the league and he will go back to being a nobody and on the street instead of playing here, putting up 800 - 1000 yards per year and contending for SBs.

Wood
12-03-2011, 05:46 PM
Does he really need it? An NFL-best seven touchdown passes in the last five games and you need more evidence?

thats actually a pretty small window to lay down a long term contract for. Those types of deals have tendency to handcuff teams who jump too quickly. The max should be 3 year deal heavy in incentives and hope Robinson has some loyalty to stay. This team needs much more help on back-end of their defense...and Miles and Dez should be fine going forward. I would be great if Robinson stayed at reasonable rate. If Robinson gets a big deal - I think Dallas almost has to move Dez and get a pass-rusher or CB.

Idgit
12-03-2011, 05:55 PM
thats actually a pretty small window to lay down a long term contract for. Those types of deals have tendency to handcuff teams who jump too quickly. The max should be 3 year deal heavy in incentives and hope Robinson has some loyalty to stay. This team needs much more help on back-end of their defense...and Miles and Dez should be fine going forward. I would be great if Robinson stayed at reasonable rate. If Robinson gets a big deal - I think Dallas almost has to move Dez and get a pass-rusher or CB.

What are you talking about? We'll sign our third WR easily and still have plenty of room for the offseason, much less without 'moving Dez'. That's a complete no-brainer.

Chuck 54
12-03-2011, 05:56 PM
We definitely need to keep Robinson. Unlike crayton and others, he has proven he can be big time as a starter. Right now Dez has not proven that he can be a legit starter...yet. I'm not worried about the Dez contract...when his rookie deal is up, we'll know who is the best WR and worry what to do then. Right now it would be foolish to let Robinson walk.

Wood
12-03-2011, 05:58 PM
What are you talking about? We'll sign our third WR easily and still have plenty of room for the offseason, much less without 'moving Dez'. That's a complete no-brainer.

if Robinson wants #2 money...dallas isn't signing him...Dallas would have to much money tied up in three receivers.

Eddie
12-03-2011, 06:06 PM
if Robinson wants #2 money...dallas isn't signing him...Dallas would have to much money tied up in three receivers.

If he wants #2 money, I say give it to him.

Imagine playing the last 4 or 5 games with Ogletree as the #2 WR? Not worth being cheap.

8FOR!3
12-03-2011, 07:42 PM
Do whatever it takes to sign him, he's an overachiever. At the beginning of the season we thought Philly's receiving core was going to be unstoppable, now we look at them as a bunch of underachievers.

Jeremy Maclin - DeSean Jackson - Steve Smith <<< Dez Bryant - Miles Austin - Laurent Robinson this year. And it's not even close. As a matter of fact I can argue Laurent's outplaying all three of those guys. Maclin's got 8 more catches and about 50 more yards, but he's also got 3 less touchdowns with more touches. DeSean's got more catches and yards (better than I expected the way they talk about him on BSPN) but he's only seen the endzone twice. Steve Smith has been a joke.

Eskimo
12-03-2011, 08:41 PM
If Demarcus Ware could wait on his deal, which he did. Than anyone could in my eyes.

Ware got a larger rookie deal so he was already very comfortable.

The second thing is Ware got $12M/yr.

The third thing is that Ware knew he would never hit FA. The Cowboys were going to franchise him if they couldn't get an extension done.

JoeCorrado
12-03-2011, 11:24 PM
What are you talking about? We'll sign our third WR easily and still have plenty of room for the offseason, much less without 'moving Dez'. That's a complete no-brainer.

True. With the injuries we experience at the wr spot, our third receiver can be considered as our third cb, a starter. We should expect to pay him as suich.

Can't agree with any who see it any other way - remove Robinson AND Austin Sunday and see how comfortable we feel - then tell me if Robinson is valuable to this team enough for a merit deal.

Eskimo
12-04-2011, 12:09 AM
True. With the injuries we experience at the wr spot, our third receiver can be considered as our third cb, a starter. We should expect to pay him as suich.

Can't agree with any who see it any other way - remove Robinson AND Austin Sunday and see how comfortable we feel - then tell me if Robinson is valuable to this team enough for a merit deal.

It doesn't matter what we feel about the situation. You can only lock up so many cap dollars in any one position. We already pay lots of money to our receiving threats because of Witten and Miles both making around $8M/yr. There may not be enough money to pay Robinson a similar deal given how much investment we have to make at OL and on the defensive side of the ball.

Cowboys&LakersFan
12-04-2011, 12:22 AM
If he continues playing the way he has the rest of the season including the playoffs then resigning him/giving him an extension is a no brainer.

Idgit
12-04-2011, 02:19 AM
We're going to get Robinson signed. As usual, people are worrying for the sake of worrying if they think he's going to walk.

SaltwaterServr
12-04-2011, 03:44 AM
We're going to get Robinson signed. As usual, people are worrying for the sake of worrying if they think he's going to walk.

Yup. Totally agree.

We've got $18.6 million in cap room for this year that gets rolled into next year. Yes we have $20 million in dead money in 2012, but we also have additional contracts we can restructure to give us further room. Come 2013, we should have a chunk of change to burn through since drafting at the very end of the first round the next two years is going to possibly leave us a little thin with franchise player draftees.

Folks worrying about money should really think about how we were going after Nnamdi. If the front office thought we were able to swing that deal, 4 years for 18 million for Laurent is no big deal.

As Joe pointed out very astutely, take Robinson and Miles off the field and then how do you feel going into this game?

Outlaw Heroes
12-04-2011, 07:55 AM
As Joe pointed out very astutely, take Robinson and Miles off the field and then how do you feel going into this game?

Like the Cowboys should still roll. Romo, Dez, Witten, Murray and Felix. We ought to be able to take care of business with that kind of talent at the skill positions. Even allowing that things are made a bit easier when Miles and/or Robinson are out there too.

CCBoy
12-04-2011, 11:44 AM
Like the Cowboys should still roll. Romo, Dez, Witten, Murray and Felix. We ought to be able to take care of business with that kind of talent at the skill positions. Even allowing that things are made a bit easier when Miles and/or Robinson are out there too.

Exactly, and carrying this a step more....with a lower round draft pick, choose the positional group that is stronger there. Take an interior offensive lineman, and then either an inside linebacker or defensive lineman next.

Keep building a strong box now.

Eskimo
12-04-2011, 12:46 PM
Exactly, and carrying this a step more....with a lower round draft pick, choose the positional group that is stronger there. Take an interior offensive lineman, and then either an inside linebacker or defensive lineman next.

Keep building a strong box now.

Yes, it is a matter of asset location and benefit vs. cost analysis.

We should be okay with a half-decent #3 given what we have at #1 and #2 plus Witten. There are only so many balls to go around.

However, we have a gigantic hole at edge rusher opposite Ware and a gigantic hole upcoming at CB with TNew's age and Jenkins contract up at the end of next season. After our top 3 we have nothing. We don't even have a developmental guy on the roster right now (stupid move to release Josh Thomas) at CB with Ball a ST player and Walker a journeyman vet who we picked up off the street.

If we can get Laurent for the going rate of a good #3 I'd be fine with it - Jordy Nelson money (3 years $13M, I think). Anything much more than that and we should invest the cap dollars elsewhere. We really should have inked the kid about a month ago. Even if we sign him now, we are probably going to be paying double what we would have paid a month ago. It is obvious the kid has great chemistry with Romo on those scrambling situations. He may not have that with anyone else but because he has it it really bumps up his TD rate and raises his asking price.

Redball Express
12-04-2011, 01:43 PM
If Robinson like's it here and isn't just looking for the pay day, he'll get something done with Jerry.

Other teams gave up on him because of his injury history and we gave him a chance. He's stepping up and making the best of it. That's what it is all about. Getting the opportunity and seizing it.



AGREED. His past injure history combined with Miles Austin's hamstring injury problems forcing him out of the lineup every season it seems, would give me pause before ponying up a big contract.

And then how are you going to pay him based on half-a-season's work..? And pay him as what, a #3 slot receiver or as a starter..like Austin and Bryant..?

It's a situation where our QB and the offensive system has certainly helped Robinson show his skills and everybody needs to let things play out. It's one thing for Robinson to be doing this against poor defenses in mid-season games.

The defenses ahead thru the end of the season are surely going to start rolling more double coverage his way and taking him away in certain situations and can he beat that..?

We'll see.

:starspin RedBaLL ExPreSS:starspin

Eskimo
12-04-2011, 11:41 PM
Robinson made a couple of tough catches today but he generally could not beat tight coverage. He got a couple of long gains when Romo extended the play.

I hope we don't pay this guy big money. He is a very good #3 guy and should be paid as such.

We need to save money to fix our real problem areas: OL and secondary.