2 offensive lineman with the first two picks is a possibility

[ghettogandhi]

I would not be surprised at all if we drafted two offensive tackles with our first two picks-
a draft of Alex Barron at 11 , khalif Barnes at 20 would be a coup of sorts- if these guys are the quality tackles for the next 10 years than it would be a steal.

In the second round a speedy wr like the kid from a&m could be had.

In the latter rounds we can find a free safety and add linebacking depth.

Just a thought- what do you guys think.

[T-Newman41]

I am not sure if it would be wise to spend our 1sts two picks both on offensive tackles. One would be fine with me, but we have other areas that need to be addressed as well.

[blindzebra]

1 is a possibility at #20, 2 is INSANE. :rolleyes:

[Hollywood Henderson]

I am with u there BZ...

I think our focus remains getting QB killers (At least one of Merriman or Ware) Impact game changing players!

A game changing WR would also help the offense not have to sustain long drives!

I still think Hunter is our day 1 starter at FS but depth is needed at many spots...

I think Tucker still can & will develop, my bet is he is our starting RT again, and while Vollers will never be all pro, he did show he can play well in a couple game span...

[ghettogandhi]

1 is a possibility at #20, 2 is INSANE. :rolleyes:

how many years does flozell have left- will rogers retire?

lots of questions. we know we need one - in a few years we ll probably need one more- why not get them both now -if the value is there.

[AdamJT13]

how many years does flozell have left

At least three.

will rogers retire?

No. Someone just made up that rumor.

[DLCassidy]

Both first rounders? When pigs fly.

[The Curly One]

Our offensive line is terrible but even as bad as it is I would not use our first 2 draft picks on O linemen. The reason for that is it usually takes 3 or 3 years before linemen really start to perform in the NFL. We do not have that long, right now we have to get a pass rush and O line from free agancy. Plus some of the younger guys may just be all right this year, Peterman, Tucker and Vollers.
At this point we do not have many choices, we have to draft players who can make an immediate impact. Curly

[FWBCowboy]

lots of questions. we know we need one - in a few years we ll probably need one more- why not get them both now -if the value is there.

Because this team has way too many holes to be drafting for the future. New England can do that. Philly can do that. Dallas can't. We need to get starters out of these picks. Impact players. People who are going to play a lot. And not only on special teams. I think there would be riots in the streets if the Cowboys took two OL in the first round.

[jobberone]

how many years does flozell have left- will rogers retire?

lots of questions. we know we need one - in a few years we ll probably need one more- why not get them both now -if the value is there.

There would be nothing wrong with it. I've been touting Barron for some time. However remember Dallas hasn't drafted a first round OL in sometime. But that was pre-Parcells.

I think it's possible for Dallas to pick either esp Barron at 11 or 20. He would be ok at 11 and a good pick at 20. Neither would be bad.

I just don't think with all the defensive holes to fill they would draft two OTs in the first esp since they need only one. Plus they have too many other holes to fill.

JMO.

[Eddie]

I think we draft two kickers for our first two picks!!!

We'd have the best kickers in the NFL !!!

[jobberone]

Well Brown does play inside or outside and I think Barron can play LT or RT.

But it's mute as we aren't going to spend two first rounders on OTs.

There's no telling who we'll draft at what position with how many picks.

[dargonking999]

I would not be surprised at all if we drafted two offensive tackles with our first two picks-
a draft of Alex Barron at 11 , khalif Barnes at 20 would be a coup of sorts- if these guys are the quality tackles for the next 10 years than it would be a steal.

In the second round a speedy wr like the kid from a&m could be had.

In the latter rounds we can find a free safety and add linebacking depth.

Just a thought- what do you guys think.


NO NO NO NO, i would be absulotey furious at that, FIST ROUND PICKS ON A FRIGGIN OL, no our needs our much greater in our defense and WR< we have to give these guys a chance and maybe in later round(3-6) look at a OL i will not sit here and look at players who could help our team, go away because we want an friggin RT BS

[phildominator]

I'm a trusting fellow and have and will give our current Cowboys braintrust the benefit of the doubt. However, if we spend both 1st rounders on OL, I'll be upset. If these two linemen were truly can't-miss bluechippers, I could be persuaded. However, everyone's got knocks in this year's draft and we have bigger needs.

If the chips fell in which the best players available at our draft slots were OL, trade down and get more picks. That's my suggested route.

[jobberone]

NO NO NO NO, i would be absulotey furious at that, FIST ROUND PICKS ON A FRIGGIN OL, no our needs our much greater in our defense and WR< we have to give these guys a chance and maybe in later round(3-6) look at a OL i will not sit here and look at players who could help our team, go away because we want an friggin RT BS

That depends on how Parcells feels about Rivera coming back and who can do what at RT now.

If he doesn't trust Rivera to come back, Gurode to bust, and doesn't trust Vollers or Tucker esp with poor RG play as well....then he may go after one and I don't know whether Barron or Brown or with 11 or 20.

So it could happen. But not two IMO.

If they don't protect Bledsoe and block for JJ then poor offense and defense will be pressured.

Parcells needs luck with Rivera and to pull the rabbit out of the hat with this draft.

[Muhast]

yes that is a possibility... its also a possibility he may draft me and you. not likely, but theres a chance. lol

[5mics]

In two words: hell no..... :puke:

[dmq]

Cowboys Still Looking To Upgrade At Right Tackle

Nick Eatman
DallasCowboys.com Staff Writer
March 23, 2005, 5:37 p.m. (CST)

IRVING, Texas - Soon after the Cowboys signed Pro Bowl guard Marco Rivera two weeks ago at the start of the free-agent signing period, several questions started pouring in.

While some of them centered on Rivera's age, and others on what the move would mean to Andre Gurode, most of them had nothing to do with Rivera so much, but just who would be lining up to his right.

While most Cowboys fans were generally happy with acquiring a veteran guard with experience, it seems there is more concern at right tackle.

And justifiably so, considering the Cowboys tried a few things at the position since the start of training camp last summer to the end of the season, and nothing has actually stuck.

Torrin Tucker beat out second-round pick Jacob Rogers for the starting spot in preseason and ended up starting 13 games at right tackle before the Cowboys replaced him with Kurt Vollers, who finished the season.

The Cowboys have currently moved Rogers back to left tackle, his position in college, and will give the former Southern Cal standout a look there this summer. If he shows promise, the Cowboys might move Pro Bowl left tackle Flozell Adams to the right side, but that is only a possibility at this point.

But whether the Cowboys start veteran Drew Bledsoe at quarterback or Drew Henson, their backsides will need to be protected. So it's rather unlikely the Cowboys will end up moving Adams to the right side.

So if no additions are made between now and the start of camp, then Tucker and Vollers would likely compete for the starting job at right tackle. But for that reason alone, expect there to be at least some acquisitions at right tackle, either through the draft or from what is left in an already-thin free-agent market.

One of the top tackles to sign was former Packers guard Mark Whale, who played tackle near the end of the season, and that was enough for Carolina to sign him to a multi-year deal to play right tackle.



One name linked to the Cowboys at one time was former Jets tackle Kareem McKenzie, a solid right tackle with size and experience. But the Cowboys never gave strong consideration to sign McKenzie, who wound up signing with the Giants instead.

Other tackles signed in free agency were former Cowboys draft pick (1998) and Steelers starter Oliver Ross, who signed with the Cardinals, Adrian Klemm (Packers) and Jonas Jennings (49ers).

The Cowboys might keep an eye on recently-released Chris Terry, who started all eight games he played in last year with the Seahawks. The six-year veteran who has 80 career starts has been injury-prone, missing half the season in 2004 and 11 total games in the past two years.

But at 6-5, 295 and experience at right tackle, signing Terry could serve as a nice insurance policy if either Tucker, Vollers, or even Rogers doesn't cut it on the right side.

Also keep an eye on Barry Stokes, another recently-released veteran with experience. Stokes was cut by the Giants this week after missing all of last year on injured reserve after undergoing back surgery. Stokes, a seven-year veteran with 32 career starts, has bounced around to nine different teams during his career, with a few multiple stops to teams along the way. But like Terry, Stokes has some experience to fall back on if needed.

But at this point, it might make more sense to wait until after the draft to sign a veteran. Although the Cowboys have only drafted one offensive tackle in the first round (Howard Richards, 1981) before, it's not out the question that trend could end this year.

With two first-round picks (11th and 20th overall), and a pressing need for a right tackle, don't be surprised if the Cowboys at least give it some consideration. Now this isn't a strong draft class for offensive tackle, but there are at least two, and maybe three, who could get picked in the first round.



Heading the list is Florida State's Alex Barron, a projected Top 15 pick, who possesses a combination of mammoth size (6-7, 316) and quick feet. Barron started the past two years for the Seminoles and plays with a mean streak needed to become a perennial Pro Bowl player at his position. While Barron will likely end up as a left tackle, he has played both sides and if he's still available when the Cowboys are picking at No. 11, he'll be someone to consider.

Two more offensive linemen who might be around when the Cowboys are picking at No. 20 are Oklahoma's Jammal Brown and Washington's Khalif Barnes, who started the last 42 consecutive games of his college career for the Huskies. At 6-5, 305, Barnes is another big-bodied player with a large wingspan, capable of engulfing smaller defenders.



As for Brown, last year's Outland Trophy winner, the former Sooner standout played right tackle and college and should be able to play right away on the right side. He is being projected as a mid-to-late first-round pick and the Cowboys could have some interest in Brown, with the 20th overall pick, and maybe later in the first round if they decide to trade the pick and move down a few spots.

Other prospects at tackle include Syracuse's Adam Terry, who played four seasons for new Cowboys tight ends coach Paul Pasqualoni, Mississippi's Marcus Johnson, who can also play guard, and Logan Mankins of Fresno State.

[ravidubey]

I would not be surprised at all if we drafted two offensive tackles with our first two picks-
a draft of Alex Barron at 11 , khalif Barnes at 20 would be a coup of sorts- if these guys are the quality tackles for the next 10 years than it would be a steal.

In the second round a speedy wr like the kid from a&m could be had.

In the latter rounds we can find a free safety and add linebacking depth.

Just a thought- what do you guys think.

1988 Draft.

1st round, 10th pick, and the Giants are on the clock Michael Irvin is available... Young and Parcells draft:
Eric Moore, OT, soon to be OG and overall bust

BUT...

2nd round, 9th pick, and the Giants are on the clock Thurman Thomas, Flipper Anderson, Brett Perriman, Pierce Holt, Ken Norton Jr., and Brian Blades are available... Young and Parcells draft:
John "Jumbo" Elliot, OT

Parcells used his OL in Superbowl XXIV to play ball control and keepaway like it has never been done before in such a game; winning 20-19.

[dargonking999]

That depends on how Parcells feels about Rivera coming back and who can do what at RT now.

If he doesn't trust Rivera to come back, Gurode to bust, and doesn't trust Vollers or Tucker esp with poor RG play as well....then he may go after one and I don't know whether Barron or Brown or with 11 or 20.

So it could happen. But not two IMO.

If they don't protect Bledsoe and block for JJ then poor offense and defense will be pressured.

Parcells needs luck with Rivera and to pull the rabbit out of the hat with this draft.

well i'll agree with that, but lets not forget we have our draft pick form last year, in the wings to, i mean i'm all for an OL, but lets fix up our other needs to. i'll take one with #20 or if we trade down, but not two.

[ABQCOWBOY]

Not gonna happen. You would have a better chance of winning the Latto. Now I could see us using one of the two first round picks on an OT but not both. As was mentioned, Adams is under contract, Rogers was drafted last year so it doesn't make sense. Now maybe our second round pick on a buy like Bass. That I could see.

[AsthmaField]

I just can't see that happening. Maybe 1 in the first round... but no way two of them.


I think both 1st rounders will come from these 3 positions:

DE
LB
WR

[Pooz]

I say we draft a Kicker and deep snapper with first two pix

[dbair1967]

I would not be surprised at all if we drafted two offensive tackles with our first two picks-
a draft of Alex Barron at 11 , khalif Barnes at 20 would be a coup of sorts- if these guys are the quality tackles for the next 10 years than it would be a steal.

In the second round a speedy wr like the kid from a&m could be had.

In the latter rounds we can find a free safety and add linebacking depth.

Just a thought- what do you guys think.

I think you might be wasted...

seriously, there is no way in hell we're drafting two OL's with the first two picks...I wouldnt be surprised if we didnt draft an OL till the 2nd day

David

[mschmidt64]

I wish we'd go ahead and knock out RT and FS already in free agency. There are names out there like Chris Terry and Arturo Freeman. Both would be relatively cheap.

Instead we're going to go into the draft again needing to fill a bunch of holes and we'll reach on a safety in the second. Just frickin' great.

[dbair1967]

I wish we'd go ahead and knock out RT and FS already in free agency. There are names out there like Chris Terry and Arturo Freeman. Both would be relatively cheap.

Instead we're going to go into the draft again needing to fill a bunch of holes and we'll reach on a safety in the second. Just frickin' great.

Chris Terry might be suspended or in the big house before the season starts...waste of money

Arturo Freeman just sux...

David

[ghettogandhi]

My contention here is that if they are the bpa when we draft then we should take them-based on several factors-
1) our rt is below average-we need more from that position-especially with drew at qb
2) Flozell is getting up there in age, wear and tear- his replacement would already be entrenched and ready to go in 2/3 years when he retires/moves on and when he is injured
3) you can never have enough good lineman on offense and defense.

I - also believe we have more pressing needs at fs,lb but rt is definitely a need position -especially with Jacobs injury history.

As most of you know my preference is a draft of
merriman
williamson and
tuck in round 2 -
fs in latter rounds-

I would not be furious if we drafted two starters on the offensive line for the next 10 years with our first two picks- we would of course need a different course of action next year

[Sandman52]

After giving Flo and Rivera big contracts and using 2nd rd picks on Johnson, Rogers, and Peterman, I don't think the Cowboys are in position to dump two 1st rd monies into the OL mix.

[big dog cowboy]

Just a thought- what do you guys think.
I think you are in the minority here. You gotta admit, it just doesn't sound like something we would do with all the other needs on this team.

[ghettogandhi]

I think you are in the minority here. You gotta admit, it just doesn't sound like something we would do with all the other needs on this team.

agreed- minority doesnt mean Im wrong though-

most people on this board mention bpa in their discussions about the draft fairly often though- just curious as to who really believes it-

as for me Im not sure I d do it either-just wondering because they probably will be available when we pick-

thanks for the feedback guys- conclusion gandhi has lost him mind

[HeHateMe]

"Worst draft prediction ever."

-Comic Book Guy

[ghettogandhi]

"Worst draft prediction ever."

-Comic Book Guy

funny - albeit inaccurate- was never a prediction but a suggestion for discussion

[big dog cowboy]

conclusion gandhi has lost him mind
there are worse things to lose. ;)

[Avery]

We just drafted an OT and OG last year in the 2nd and 3rd round respectively (Rogers, Peterman). Neither played at all really.

If Barron is there at #20 then it's a possibility; otherwise, not going to happen.

We're mounting a full scale attack on the QB next year. Time to get the soldiers.

[Cbz40]

We just drafted an OT and OG last year in the 2nd and 3rd round respectively (Rogers, Peterman). Neither played at all really.

If Barron is there at #20 then it's a possibility; otherwise, not going to happen.

We're mounting a full scale attack on the QB next year. Time to get the soldiers.

Well it's about time we mounted that full scale attack on the QB.

I certainly hope it happens.

[MichaelWinicki]

I would not be surprised at all if we drafted two offensive tackles with our first two picks-
a draft of Alex Barron at 11 , khalif Barnes at 20 would be a coup of sorts- if these guys are the quality tackles for the next 10 years than it would be a steal.

In the second round a speedy wr like the kid from a&m could be had.

In the latter rounds we can find a free safety and add linebacking depth.

Just a thought- what do you guys think.


I think you're insane.

[jobberone]

well i'll agree with that, but lets not forget we have our draft pick form last year, in the wings to, i mean i'm all for an OL, but lets fix up our other needs to. i'll take one with #20 or if we trade down, but not two.

I wasn't suggesting it or saying it would happen. The point was it wouldn't be a bad pick to take Barron at 11 or 20. I don't have strong feelings about this draft and can't miss players nor about taking an OL in the first.

[Silverstar]

A lot depends on whether we get Darren Howard or not. If we sign Howard, then a pass rusher is no longer a priority. This opens the door for a lot of possibilities come draft day.

A pass rusher is still priority IMO.