CP3 & Dwight To The Lakers? [Archive] - Dallas Cowboys Forum

Cowboys&LakersFan

12-05-2011, 11:38 PM

It was just reported on ESPN by Chris Broussard that the Lakers are in serious discussions to not only acquire Dwight Howard, but also acquire CP3. Broussard said the Lakers are willing to trade anybody on the roster not named Kobe Bryant.

Sources say Lakers have plans to go after Dwight Howard AND CP3. Everyone not named Kobe is available.

https://twitter.com/#!/chris_broussard

The30YardSlant

12-06-2011, 12:13 AM

They'll HAVE to trade everyone on the roster but Kobe to be able to afford it essentially. With those three guys (Kobe, Howard and Paul), any ONE of Odom, Bynum, Gasol, Artest or Fisher puts them way over the cap. They won't be able to resign Barnes or Brown either.

Cowboys&LakersFan

12-06-2011, 01:53 AM

BraveHeartFan

12-06-2011, 08:35 AM

Interesting. Blow up a team with a solid core of players in order to have a team with 3 players.

I guess it worked great for Miami.

ABQCOWBOY

12-06-2011, 09:59 AM

I don't think that the Lakers intend to trade or cut all of their players. If this happens, it probably means that the Lakers are over the cap and have to pay for Luxury Tax penalties. I suspect that the Lakers may be planning on using the new Time Warner Cable deal to offset these expenses. You figure that the penalty would be short lived. The cap will continue to rise so the Lakers will receive relief on a deal such as this with each passing year.

Rogah

12-06-2011, 10:35 AM

It was just reported on ESPN by Chris Broussard that the Lakers are in serious discussions to not only acquire Dwight Howard, but also acquire CP3. Broussard said the Lakers are willing to trade anybody on the roster not named Kobe Bryant.

https://twitter.com/#!/chris_broussardYes but ESPN said they likely would not be able to get both players because they just don't have the trade bait to get both of them.

Sam I Am

12-06-2011, 10:58 AM

No way in hell they can do that with the garbage on their roster after Kobe.

They would have to trade all of them plus the next 20 1st round draft picks.

ESPN is a bunch of page-view whores.

Cowboys&LakersFan

12-06-2011, 11:06 AM

No way in hell they can do that with the garbage on their roster after Kobe.

They would have to trade all of them plus the next 20 1st round draft picks.

ESPN is a bunch of page-view whores.

Bynum, Gasol, and Odom are garbage? :laugh2:

Bynum is one of the best centers in the NBA, Gasol is one of the best power forwards in the NBA, and Odom is the best 6th man in the NBA.

Keep in mind Chris Broussard is a legit source. As legit of a source as there is. He was the first to report LeBron James would sign with the Miami Heat and obviously that's what happened. Not saying it's gonna happen, but for those of you who act like it's impossible just take a look at the history of the Los Angeles Lakers. They have a notorious history of going after and acquiring big name stars. Wilt Chamberlain, Kareem Abdul Jabbar, Kobe Bryant, Shaquille O'Neal, and most recently in 2008 Pau Gasol.

MarionBarberThe4th

12-06-2011, 02:40 PM

0.0

Nobody wants Pau Gasol.

Dash28

12-06-2011, 02:48 PM

Cowboys&LakersFan

12-06-2011, 07:13 PM

0.0

Nobody wants Pau Gasol.

:laugh1:

Of course people want him. He's the second best power forward in the game behind only Dirk.

ThreeSportStar80

12-06-2011, 07:16 PM

If the Lakers get CP3 and D. Howard I'd be one happy S.O.B.

MarionBarberThe4th

12-06-2011, 07:28 PM

Man all these awesome players to trade and yet the Lakers got SWEPT by the Mavericks

CATCH17

12-06-2011, 08:08 PM

If I were the Magic I'd trade Howard for Bynum straight up.

You're going to lose Dwight and end up with nothing. Trade him for a top 3 center who is young.

casmith07

12-06-2011, 08:20 PM

As much as it's being bandied about, there's no way.

Los Angeles will get Dwight. They won't get CP3. It's down to the Knicks or the Clippers for Chris Paul.

casmith07

12-06-2011, 08:22 PM

Bynum, Gasol, and Odom are garbage? :laugh2:

Bynum is one of the best centers in the NBA, Gasol is one of the best power forwards in the NBA, and Odom is the best 6th man in the NBA.

Keep in mind Chris Broussard is a legit source. As legit of a source as there is. He was the first to report LeBron James would sign with the Miami Heat and obviously that's what happened. Not saying it's gonna happen, but for those of you who act like it's impossible just take a look at the history of the Los Angeles Lakers. They have a notorious history of going after and acquiring big name stars. Wilt Chamberlain, Kareem Abdul Jabbar, Kobe Bryant, Shaquille O'Neal, and most recently in 2008 Pau Gasol.

Broussard is what sports journalism should be. Dude was saying Miami looong before anyone else.

My guess is they deal Bynum to Orlando for Dwight and Hedo, to absorb Hedo's contract for a year. They still need a PG.

MegaMagick

12-06-2011, 08:37 PM

Paul to the Warriors lookin' likely? Hearing Curry and some other players will be sent to NO for him.

rantanamo

12-07-2011, 01:39 AM

this seems to be the only board on the internet that thinks Broussard knows anything.

Cowboys&LakersFan

12-07-2011, 01:41 AM

Broussard is what sports journalism should be. Dude was saying Miami looong before anyone else.

My guess is they deal Bynum to Orlando for Dwight and Hedo, to absorb Hedo's contract for a year. They still need a PG.

If we don't get CP3 we could sign Barea.

Barea/Blake
Kobe/Barnes
Artest/Turkoglu
Gasol/Caracter
Dwight/Filler

Not too shabby at all. Not a great bench, but you don't need one when you have 3 all stars in your lineup.

this seems to be the only board on the internet that thinks Broussard knows anything.

Did you not read the OP correctly? Chris is the same guy who reported LeBron would sign with Miami and he did. I'm not gonna lie he can annoy the hell out of me when is making lame excuses for LeBron, however there's no question Broussard is a very credible source.

MarionBarberThe4th

12-07-2011, 03:06 AM

Brousard is known in nba circles to throw everything against the wall.

ABQCOWBOY

12-07-2011, 08:14 AM

This rumor is picking up speed. I am doubtful that the Lakers get both and I am a Laker fan. However, there are a lot of folks who seem to think that it has a chance to happen. IDK.

Temo

12-07-2011, 08:46 AM

I DO know. That it's not happening. The numbers don't work. They could probably pull off a trade for one or the other though.

ABQCOWBOY

12-07-2011, 09:10 AM

I DO know. That it's not happening. The numbers don't work. They could probably pull off a trade for one or the other though.

I don't think anybody knows. The Lakers are not stupid. They would not be spending resources to try and put a deal together if there were no chance of making it happen. I am confident that they have the resources to do this. I just don't believe that they will be able to because I believe that another team will likely block one or both of the moves by offering more.

Manwiththeplan

12-07-2011, 09:15 AM

Paul to the Warriors lookin' likely? Hearing Curry and some other players will be sent to NO for him.

The GS deal is unlikely to happen, unless they are willing to just rent Paul. With only Monta Ellis and David Lee, they are very unlikely to be able to keep Paul long term and w/o that assurance, probably won't pull the trigger.

The Clippers deal as it is now, no Gordon or Jordan isn't very likely either. If they can keep their assets, Paul would likely sign an extension there, but with those 2 guys off the table, any perspective deal is a lot less attractive.

As a Knicks fan, the only team that worries me is the Lakers. If they want him, the have the assets to trade and to keep Paul.

Manwiththeplan

12-07-2011, 09:16 AM

I DO know. That it's not happening. The numbers don't work. They could probably pull off a trade for one or the other though.

The Lakers certainly can pull it off. It may not be likely, but it's certainly possible.

JackWagon

12-07-2011, 09:43 AM

The NBA is salivating over a Heatles vs Kobe finals. They will allow whatever it takes to get kobe back to the finals and the ratings up.

casmith07

12-07-2011, 09:49 AM

Brousard is known in nba circles to throw everything against the wall.

You're just mad LeBron ended up going to Miami and not New Jersey, as if it was ever a realistic chance. :D

As for the Lakers, even if they get Dwight they still need a point guard and I don't think Berea is the kind of guy they want.

You want a guy like Goran Dragic. Someone that's going to be able to dish the ball to your scorers in Kobe, Dwight, and maybe Gasol. Not take away touches like CP3. Dragic's also about a 40% 3 point shooter, something the Lakers desperately need.

ABQCOWBOY

12-07-2011, 10:59 AM

You're just mad LeBron ended up going to Miami and not New Jersey, as if it was ever a realistic chance. :D

As for the Lakers, even if they get Dwight they still need a point guard and I don't think Berea is the kind of guy they want.

You want a guy like Goran Dragic. Someone that's going to be able to dish the ball to your scorers in Kobe, Dwight, and maybe Gasol. Not take away touches like CP3. Dragic's also about a 40% 3 point shooter, something the Lakers desperately need.

You know, I would actually like to see the Lakers make a play for Brandon Roy rather then Paul. He is a guy who can play either SG or PG and he is an excellent ball handler. If you get a guy like Roy, you can use either Kobe or Roy as the PG and the other as the SG. That brings a lot of pressure to an opposing defense because you can't identify where the offense is going to come from. Roy has had some injury problems but if you share the duties of bringing the ball up the floor with Kobe, you basically take ware and tear of both players and create a nice situation for your offense. Roy doesn't turn the ball over much when he plays PG because he runs a more traditional offense. Portland doesn't really push the ball up the floor much so Roy's TO ratio is good. This is the style that the Lakers will play this season. Up and down is not What I expect to see out of Mike Brown's offense. This style fits Roy perfectly IMO. I think Portland might be willing to consider a trade and I think that Roy would be much cheaper then CP3. I would love to see a lineup with Roy, Howard, Gasol, Kobe and another SF with skills.

casmith07

12-07-2011, 11:56 AM

ABQ, I agree on Brandon Roy. He would also be asked to do much less in Los Angeles, and even though he's got bad knees it would help to extend his career and take some of the stress off his body.

Roy would make a good point guard too...I think he was more of a point guard coming out of college.

Cowboys&LakersFan

12-07-2011, 03:11 PM

I don't why people are acting like Pau Gasol is weak trading chip. The guy is a top 20 NBA player and a top 5 big man. One bad playoffs doesn't define a player. He had probably the best regular season of his career. He's a great player. There's no better player out there that can be offered. No one realistically anyway.

Temo

12-07-2011, 03:30 PM

CP3 is a distributor, I have no idea where you'd get that he'd take away touches.

Dragic would have been a great PG for a triangle, but I thought the Lakers were going to go away from that now.

Temo

12-07-2011, 03:35 PM

I don't think anybody knows. The Lakers are not stupid. They would not be spending resources to try and put a deal together if there were no chance of making it happen. I am confident that they have the resources to do this. I just don't believe that they will be able to because I believe that another team will likely block one or both of the moves by offering more.

How is this different from what I said? They have the pieces to bid for one guy, but that would leave them short on resources for the other, and someone will top their package. The pieces just don't add up to me.

ABQCOWBOY

12-07-2011, 04:01 PM

CP3 is a distributor, I have no idea where you'd get that he'd take away touches.

Dragic would have been a great PG for a triangle, but I thought the Lakers were going to go away from that now.

Chris Paul is a Scorer. That is why he said that. The Lakers are not going to need scoring as much as they are going to need a guy who breaks down the defense and creates for his team mates. Williams is much better at that then Paul is IMO but they are both pretty good.

ABQCOWBOY

12-07-2011, 04:05 PM

Chris Paul is a Scorer. That is why he said that. The Lakers are not going to need scoring as much as they are going to need a guy who breaks down the defense and creates for his team mates. Williams is much better at that then Paul is IMO but they are both pretty good.

Well, what you said was "I DO KNOW."

I said I didn't think that anybody new for sure.

You said the numbers didn't work.

I said the numbers do work to make it possible.

You said they could do one or the other but not both.

I said I doubt other teams would allow them to do both or possibly even one but the Lakers could absolutely pull this off. They have the money and I think that they have some players as well. People are not just talking about this to talk. The Lakers are trying to put something together here.

Can they do it? I don't know but I would not surprised either way.

Cowboys&LakersFan

12-07-2011, 04:12 PM

jcollins28

12-07-2011, 04:22 PM

I hate the Lakers. Cant wait to see them lose in the first round of the playoffs.

ABQCOWBOY

12-07-2011, 04:34 PM

Paul is a great scorer, but he's just as good of a distributor.

No, I agree that he is very good at making assists but he has a scoring mentality. Williams is much more of an assist mentality. I think that they are different. Williams fits better but I don't think the Lakers have a chance for Williams. Sounds like hes staying put. Paul is not a bad option though.

Cowboys&LakersFan

12-07-2011, 04:36 PM

I hate the Lakers. Cant wait to see them lose in the first round of the playoffs.

:lmao2:

Yeah because a team that has Dwight Howard, Kobe Bryant, and either Pau Gasol or CP3 is gonna lose in the 1st round. :rolleyes:

Even if they don't get CP3 or Dwight which is unlikely they'll get one of them, they still have Kobe, Gasol, Bynum, and Odom. A few tweaks here in there and that's a championship contender. Last year's playoff loss was a fluke they were just tired from 3 straight Finals. With Chandler likely gone it's hard to see Dallas beating us again and OKC simply doesn't have the bigs to compete with us down low. They have a great player in Durant, but Artest has proven in year's past he can slow him down. Westbrook has been a Lakers killer when going up against Fish, but the Lakers have been able to slow him down by putting Kobe on him.

Heat/Lakers would be a great series. They have the advantage on the perimeter we have the advantage down low. Neither bench is very good. It's a toss up.

jcollins28

12-07-2011, 04:47 PM

:lmao2:

Yeah because a team that has Dwight Howard, Kobe Bryant, and either Pau Gasol or CP3 is gonna lose in the 1st round. :rolleyes:

Even if they don't get CP3 or Dwight which is unlikely they'll get one of them, they still have Kobe, Gasol, Bynum, and Odom. A few tweaks here in there and that's a championship contender. Last year's playoff loss was a fluke they were just tired from 3 straight Finals. With Chandler likely gone it's hard to see Dallas beating us again and OKC simply doesn't have the bigs to compete with us down low. They have a great player in Durant, but Artest has proven in year's past he can slow him down. Westbrook has been a Lakers killer when going up against Fish, but the Lakers have been able to slow him down by putting Kobe on him.

Heat/Lakers would be a great series. They have the advantage on the perimeter we have the advantage down low. Neither bench is very good. It's a toss up.

Last years playoff loss was a fluke?...ahhh Laker fans.....:rolleyes:

Cowboys&LakersFan

12-07-2011, 04:55 PM

Last years playoff loss was a fluke?...ahhh Laker fans.....:rolleyes:

Yes it was. How many teams have 3 peated in the last decade. 1 the Lakers in 2002. Guys were tired from 3 straight Finals. Now they've got some great extra rest and you better believe they will be back.

Temo

12-08-2011, 04:50 PM

No, I agree that he is very good at making assists but he has a scoring mentality. Williams is much more of an assist mentality. I think that they are different. Williams fits better but I don't think the Lakers have a chance for Williams. Sounds like hes staying put. Paul is not a bad option though.

I think you're wrong on Paul. He's the best passer in the league when healthy.

And I'm a Nets fan with Deron Williams on my team.

Cowboys&LakersFan

12-08-2011, 05:03 PM

*** Lakers? :banghead:

Not Bynum!!!!!!!!!!

We need him to land D12.

The Hornets are near a deal to send Chris Paul to the Lakers for Andrew Bynum and Lamar Odom, league source tells Y! Sports.

The30YardSlant

12-08-2011, 05:04 PM

*** Lakers? :banghead:

Not Bynum!!!!!!!!!!

We need him to land D12.

Like we've all been saying, LA can have one but not both.

Cowboys&LakersFan

12-08-2011, 05:06 PM

Like we've all been saying, LA can have one but not both.

I'd rather have Dwight this a stupid move.

MegaMagick

12-08-2011, 05:07 PM

Yeesh, that move really isn't going to make the lakers a contender, that actually might make them worse.

Good luck keeping CP3 healthy throughout this shortened season.

Cowboys&LakersFan

12-08-2011, 05:12 PM

https://mobile.twitter.com/#!/WojYahooNBA/status/144915833947291649

Correction it's Gasol and Odom for CP3. Damn just nearly had my heart stop.

Cowboys&LakersFan

12-08-2011, 05:39 PM

David Aldridge is saying Lamar is not in deal.

ABQCOWBOY

12-08-2011, 05:52 PM

*** Lakers? :banghead:

Not Bynum!!!!!!!!!!

We need him to land D12.

The is an article on NBA.com that says it's Paul for Gasol and Odom. IDK.

Cowboys&LakersFan

12-08-2011, 05:54 PM

The is an article on NBA.com that says it's Paul for Gasol and Odom. IDK.

Yeah I just breathed a huge sigh of relief. There's a feeling around the league that Dwight Howard is next. I wouldn't be shocked if we see the big of CP3, Kobe, and Dwight playing on Christmas Day.

viman96

12-08-2011, 06:09 PM

ESPN is reporting it done.

http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/7333285/los-angeles-lakers-agree-trade-pau-gasol-lamar-odom-chris-paul-sources-say

The Los Angeles Lakers have agreed to surrender Pau Gasol and Lamar Odom in a trade for New Orleans Hornets point guard Chris Paul, sources tell ESPN.com's Marc Stein.

Doomsday

12-08-2011, 06:15 PM

Cowboys&LakersFan

12-08-2011, 06:20 PM

Wow, this is an interesting trade. People might think I am nuts but Id rather have Gasol, it is a lot harder to find good big men than it is point guards. I guess if Bynum can actually stay on the court this could a really good pick up for the Lakers as well.

Chris Paul is the best point guard in basketball and it's not even close, it sucks to give up Pau and LO, but it's worth it. No way Lakers make this trade if they didn't think Dwight would be a Laker.