Lamar Odom traded to Dallas

[CATCH17]

Not sure of the details but he is a Mav.

[Yeagermeister]

I wonder how much the Mavs gave up for Khloe? :laugh1:

[03EBZ06]

Not sure of the details but he is a Mav.
Odom was traded for unspecified draft choices so that Lakers can go after Howard with more assets.

[GloryDaysRBack]

Lakers received the TPE Dallas received from NY (tyson chandler)

clearly LA is giong after Howard

[MC KAos]

damn! the mavs got odom, the lakers are going to get howard! this sucks!

[Cowboys&LakersFan]

Lakers received the TPE Dallas received from NY (tyson chandler)

clearly LA is giong after Howard

And they're going to get him. Told you guys.

[The30YardSlant]

Can we require that he dump that Kardashian ***** first?

[MC KAos]

And they're going to get him. Told you guys.

while he is prob going to LA now, you "told us" he would be here along with CP3

Can we require that he dump that Kardashian ***** first?

she hasnt affected his play, the kardashians seem to be good luck to teams anyway

[Gemini Dolly]

Out of all the Kardashians, Khloe is the most tolerable, IMO.

[The30YardSlant]

she hasnt affected his play, the kardashians seem to be good luck to teams anyway

But I live in Dallas and don't want her wasting my oxygen supply

[MC KAos]

But I live in Dallas and don't want her wasting my oxygen supply

:lmao:

[casmith07]

Out of all the Kardashians, Khloe is the most tolerable, IMO.

She's much more than tolerable. She's the only one with a decent head on her shoulders. Helped Lamar clean up his finances.

[The30YardSlant]

Out of all the Kardashians, Khloe is the most tolerable, IMO.

That's like saying Taylor was the most talented of the Hanson brothers

[Gemini Dolly]

That's like saying Taylor was the most talented of the Hanson brothers

mmmm bop. LOL. No, really I dont think shes that bad. She actually can think for herself and her personality is more real.

So, if a Kardashian had to invade Dallas, I much rather it be KHOLE. But of course, the whole family will probably frequent here. Hopefully, Miles Austin stays away from the newly single KIM. ;)

[Heisenberg]

Somewhat quietly, the Mavs are putting together a good team for this year.

Plus, I doubt they're done.

[The30YardSlant]

Somewhat quietly, the Mavs are putting together a good team for this year.

Plus, I doubt they're done.

Agreed. Kidd, Terry, Marion, Fernandez, Odom, Dirk, Carter, Haywood and hopefully and emerging RoddyB isnt a bad group.

[kristie]

Can we require that he dump that Kardashian ***** first?

yes we can.

[juck]

Lakers gonna have just old Kobe and D12. They are gonna lose Bynum and Pau. Mavs still better. Also this means DWILL wont stay with Nets and come home and play for Dallas.

[ThreeSportStar80]

Wow this might actually set up a trade for the Lakers to get D. Howard.

[dboy214]

Wow this might actually set up a trade for the Lakers to get D. Howard.

and?

cuban's whole issue was not letting L.A. get cp3 AND howard.

by allowing howard to go to L.A., he essentially makes deron williams decision very easy next year. if Howard went to the Nets, i think d-will resigns with them. not anymore.

mark cuban is playing chess with the lakers.

[kristie]

Wow this might actually set up a trade for the Lakers to get D. Howard.

maybe. maybe not.

[Heisenberg]

Dallas appears to be going for veteran depth again. That worked really well last year. This is what the lineup looks like from what I understand:

Kidd/Roddy/DoJo
JET/Rudy/Carter
Marion/Brewer/Odom
Dirk/Wright/Cardinal
Haywood/Mahinmi

That's not bad.

[The30YardSlant]

and?

cuban's whole issue was not letting L.A. get cp3 AND howard.

by allowing howard to go to L.A., he essentially makes deron williams decision very easy next year. if Howard went to the Nets, i think d-will resigns with them. not anymore.

mark cuban is playing chess with the lakers.

I agree, Cuban REALLY wants to pair Williams and Dirk for a few years while Dirk still has it.

[Thick 'N Hearty]

Agreed. Kidd, Terry, Marion, Fernandez, Odom, Dirk, Carter, Haywood and hopefully and emerging RoddyB isnt a bad group.

I think Dalembert from Sac is still on our radar. Haywood is a serviceable backup, but Dalembert would provide similar numbers that Chandler had in '10-'11:

Chandler: 74 games; 27:48 min/game; 10.1 pts; 9.4 rebs; 1.1 blks
Dalembert: 80 games; 24:11 min/game; 8.1 pts; 8.2 rebs; 1.5 blks

So, the starting 5 would be:
Kidd
Rudy
Dirk
Marion
Dalembert

Off the bench:
Two Sixth Man award winners in JET and Odom
Vinsanity
Haywood
Brewer

I really like the depth we could potentially have.

[big dog cowboy]

But I live in Dallas and don't want her wasting my oxygen supply

That's like saying Taylor was the most talented of the Hanson brothers
The two best lines I've heard all weekend.

[DFWJC]

This was what I was referring to yesterday but could not say anything.
Plus it was not a given this would go down, but I was sworn to secrecy nevertheless.

Anyway
Go Mavs.

BTW, the Lakers are not done folks....neither are the Nets.

[Cowboys&LakersFan]

Lakers gonna have just old Kobe and D12. They are gonna lose Bynum and Pau. Mavs still better. Also this means DWILL wont stay with Nets and come home and play for Dallas.

Lakers aren't losing Pau. I know Orlando is asking for them, but L.A. isn't giving up both they're not stupid. I see a trade like this.

Mavs TPE
Vujacic TPE
Bynum
Ebanks
Caracter

For

Howard
Turkoglu

Then I see the Lakers still trying to make a trade for CP3. Stern wants some draft picks. Lakers can trade Gasol and throw in some 1st rounders. Maybe they try another 3 team trade. Idk I still see us getting Paul if we can keep Gasol from Orlando.

[MC KAos]

Lakers aren't losing Pau. I know Orlando is asking for them, but L.A. isn't giving up both they're not stupid. I see a trade like this.

Mavs TPE
Vujacic TPE
Bynum
Ebanks
Caracter

For

Howard
Turkoglu

Then I see the Lakers still trying to make a trade for CP3. Stern wants some draft picks. Lakers can trade Gasol and throw in some 1st rounders. Maybe they try another 3 team trade. Idk I still see us getting Paul if we can keep Gasol from Orlando.

sorry, but the lakers can only use one of the TPE's in a trade, this was discussed last night by marc stein i believe on twitter. as it stands right now the lakers cant make a trade for both hedo and howard without including both gasol and bynum

[Manwiththeplan]

sorry, but the lakers can only use one of the TPE's in a trade, this was discussed last night by marc stein i believe on twitter. as it stands right now the lakers cant make a trade for both hedo and howard without including both gasol and bynum

they could if LA convinced ORL to take Luke Walton's $5.6 million dollar deal with 2 seasons left. That would be a decent tradeoff for Hedo's contract, especially if Walton retires for medical reasons.

[Sam I Am]

Without a real center, Dallas can't defend their championship.

I don't see any way Dallas can swing the Howard trade. Only place I see him going is the Nets.

[The30YardSlant]

Without a real center, Dallas can't defend their championship.

I don't see any way Dallas can swing the Howard trade. Only place I see him going is the Nets.

Dallas is targeting Dalembert, who qualifies as a real center

[DFWJC]

Without a real center, Dallas can't defend their championship.

I don't see any way Dallas can swing the Howard trade. Only place I see him going is the Nets.
You mean LA?

Anyway, it hard to predcit ANY team will repeat. But I would say Dallas at least has a fighting chance. Like last year, they are maybe 1 of 7-8 teams capable of winning it.

[WoodysGirl]

I wonder how much the Mavs gave up for Khloe? :laugh1:
ESPN_Caplan (http://twitter.com/#%21/ESPN_Caplan): BREAKING NEWS: Rick Carlisle: "But I will say this, Khloe’s my favorite Kardashian. She’s the coolest." You heard it here.

[Cowboys&LakersFan]

sorry, but the lakers can only use one of the TPE's in a trade, this was discussed last night by marc stein i believe on twitter. as it stands right now the lakers cant make a trade for both hedo and howard without including both gasol and bynum

No they can use Sasha's trade TPE but it only lasts till the 16th

[MegaMagick]

Looking at the way this roster is shaping up, people are overlooking how deep and versatile this mavs team will be going into a condensed, lockout shortened season.

I would love to have another piece added at C, but if Haywood is motivated then he can be really good, Mahinimi can also be serviceable at C.

Kidd/Roddy/Jones
Carter/Terry/Fernandez
Marion/Odom/Brewer
Dirk/Odom/Cardinal/Wright
Haywood/Mahinimi/Odom

I think that's more than enough to get back to the finals this year, people are hyping the Thunder up way too much.

[RoyTheHammer]

Lakers received the TPE Dallas received from NY (tyson chandler)

clearly LA is giong after Howard

The TPE isn't big enough.

Wonder if Cuban will veto this trade, btw. Odom for nothing. Seems legit.

[casmith07]

The TPE isn't big enough.

Wonder if Cuban will veto this trade, btw. Odom for nothing. Seems legit.

Dan Gilbert's writing an email as we speak.

[The30YardSlant]

Looking at the way this roster is shaping up, people are overlooking how deep and versatile this mavs team will be going into a condensed, lockout shortened season.

I would love to have another piece added at C, but if Haywood is motivated then he can be really good, Mahinimi can also be serviceable at C.

Kidd/Roddy/Jones
Carter/Terry/Fernandez
Marion/Odom/Brewer
Dirk/Odom/Cardinal/Wright
Haywood/Mahinimi/Odom

I think that's more than enough to get back to the finals this year, people are hyping the Thunder up way too much.

The shortened season also means the Mavericks age won't be much of a factor. Kidd, Carter, Marion, etc. won't get worn down as easily.

[DFWJC]

The TPE isn't big enough.

Wonder if Cuban will veto this trade, btw. Odom for nothing. Seems legit.
Cuban vetoed nothing so far.

[RoyTheHammer]

Cuban vetoed nothing so far.

Oh, he didn't whine and cry about the trade that Stern nixed?

[DFWJC]

Oh, he didn't whine and cry about the trade that Stern nixed?
No, Roy, he didn't.

It was the the Cleveland GM (and supposedly a couple of other "small market GMs" who whined when the trade went down.

Now after the trade fell through, then Cuban offered an explanation why. But not beforehand.
There is a huge difference there.

[RoyTheHammer]

No, Roy, he didn't.

It was the the Cleveland GM (and supposedly a couple of other "small market GMs" who whined when the trade went down.

Now after the trade fell through, then Cuban offered an explanation why. But not beforehand.
There is a huge difference there.

Please.. he didn't want the deal to happen. If you don't think he expressed his opinion to the other owners and the league before Stern made his decision you're crazy.

He didn't want the deal to happen because he doesn't want LA to take the title from them. Fair enough, but still a pathetic move.

He claims its because he wants small market teams to be able to keep their stars. Bull. Now that they didn't make this trade, they are not only going to lose their star, but get nothing in return for him either when he walks.

[DFWJC]

Please.. he didn't want the deal to happen. If you don't think he expressed his opinion to the other owners and the league before Stern made his decision you're crazy.

He didn't want the deal to happen because he doesn't want LA to take the title from them. Fair enough, but still a pathetic move.

He claims its because he wants small market teams to be able to keep their stars. Bull. Now that they didn't make this trade, they are not only going to lose their star, but get nothing in return for him either when he walks.
So....what you are saying is all speculation. And based on your speculation as being fact, he was whiner. You had his phone tapped or something, I suppose.

I thought the deal should have gone through. If someone didn't want it to go through, that's fine. They have a total right to not want something to happen.
But saying that Cuban, in particular, tried to undermine the process is purely speculation.

[RoyTheHammer]

So....what you are saying is all speculation. And based on your speculation as being fact, he was whiner. You had his phone tapped or something, I suppose.

I thought the deal should have gone through. If someone didn't want it to go through, that's fine. They have a total right to not want someting to happen.
But saying that Cuba, in particualr, tried to undermine the process is purely speculation.

He came out and stated that he was against it. Its a league owned team.

Do the math.

BTW, you saying he didn't whine about it and make his opinion known to the league and to other owners before the trade was nixed is speculation as well. Im just being realistic. He didn't want it to go down because he feared the competition it would bring his team. Bottom line. Its not about small market teams at all, because even John John in his beanbag chair eating cheetos knows that by not being allowed to trade CP3 and get some talent in return, its hurting that team more than helping because he'll just walk when his contract is up anyway and then they'll get nothing for losing him.

[Dash28]

No, Roy, he didn't.

It was the the Cleveland GM (and supposedly a couple of other "small market GMs" who whined when the trade went down.

Now after the trade fell through, then Cuban offered an explanation why. But not beforehand.
There is a huge difference there.
Cuban *****ed about it.

[CATCH17]

I love how you guys think Cuban could actually sway Stern into stopping this trade.

[The30YardSlant]

I love how you guys think Cuban could actually sway Stern into stopping this trade.

Exactly. David Stern HATES Mark Cuban, no way he would allow him to effect a decision for him.

[cowboyeric8]

It appears someone is still sore about Lebron getting owned in the finals.

[casmith07]

Reports out of LA is that Kobe is quite unhappy with the Lakers trading Odom. Odom apparently requested a trade after they tried to deal him to New Orleans.

[CATCH17]

Reports out of LA is that Kobe is quite unhappy with the Lakers trading Odom. Odom apparently requested a trade after they tried to deal him to New Orleans.

I think Kobe is just being a good teammate.

Kobe has to be happy that they are eventually going to get Howard.

[Cowboys&LakersFan]

I think Kobe is just being a good teammate.

Kobe has to be happy that they are eventually going to get Howard.

He won't be happy if we give up both bigs.

Also can people please stop saying Dallas isn't a threat to repeat? People act like Chandler is prime Shaq lol.

Dallas is stacked.

J-Kidd/Roddy B.
VC/Terry
Matrix/Rudy
Dirk/LO
Haywood/Mahimi

[CATCH17]

He won't be happy if we give up both bigs.

Also can people please stop saying Dallas isn't a threat to repeat? People act like Chandler is prime Shaq lol.

Dallas is stacked.

J-Kidd/Roddy B.
VC/Terry
Matrix/Rudy
Dirk/LO
Haywood/Mahimi

Dallas is more of a threat now with Odom but Chandler was amazing for us down the stretch.

The 1 year Dallas stops allowing easy patios they win the NBA title.

I don't like our chances without him but we'll still be a threat.

[Cowboys&LakersFan]

Dallas is more of a threat now with Odom but Chandler was amazing for us down the stretch.

The 1 year Dallas stops allowing easy patios they win the NBA title.

I don't like our chances without him but we'll still be a threat.

Well the 1 thing that would worry me about Lamar is he's pretty damaged physiologically. He's been through some tough **** in his career. Losing his son obviously was the toughest and he wasn't treated fairly at all by the team he helped win 2 titles. He was crushed by the trade he was crying on a radio show. I feel bad for him. He's a really good player though when his mind is right. I'm just glad we didn't trade him to some rebuilding team at least he has a legit shot at winning ring #3.

[DFWJC]

Reports out of LA is that Kobe is quite unhappy with the Lakers trading Odom. Odom apparently requested a trade after they tried to deal him to New Orleans.
I was trying to tell these guys that Odum to Dallas did not really come up until AFTER the CP3 deal was nixed. They were not even pursuing Odom but seized the opportunity when it presented itself.

[DFWJC]

Well the 1 thing that would worry me about Lamar is he's pretty damaged physiologically. He's been through some tough **** in his career. Losing his son obviously was the toughest and he wasn't treated fairly at all by the team he helped win 2 titles. He was crushed by the trade he was crying on a radio show. I feel bad for him. He's a really good player though when his mind is right. I'm just glad we didn't trade him to some rebuilding team at least he has a legit shot at winning ring #3.
That's the spirit!

[DFWJC]

Dallas is more of a threat now with Odom but Chandler was amazing for us down the stretch.

The 1 year Dallas stops allowing easy patios they win the NBA title.

I don't like our chances without him but we'll still be a threat.
That's how I see it.
It looks better today than two days ago.

[casmith07]

I was trying to tell these guys that Odum to Dallas did not really come up until AFTER the CP3 deal was nixed. They were not even pursuing Odom but seized the opportunity when it presented itself.

You're correct. After the 2nd CP3 deal fell apart, Odom requested to be traded and the Lakers moved him to Dallas.

[TheCowboy]

Interesting pick up. I think he'll be a success in Dallas.

[UVAwahoos]

Lakers frantically scrambling to make moves after getting their *** swept by the Mavs last season. D Will is gonna end up in Dallas now. We're playing chess and winning here. Picked up Odom for absolutely nothing.

Also, continue to LOL @ any Lakers fans who also root for the Cowboys. If you're not a hot girl that's just dumb and cute, then do not get on message boards and try to talk sports. You have zero credibility as a human. I'm sure you're also a Yankees fan.

[kristie]

Lakers frantically scrambling to make moves after getting their *** swept by the Mavs last season. D Will is gonna end up in Dallas now. We're playing chess and winning here. Picked up Odom for absolutely nothing.

Also, continue to LOL @ any Lakers fans who also root for the Cowboys. If you're not a hot girl that's just dumb and cute, then do not get on message boards and try to talk sports. You have zero credibility as a human. I'm sure you're also a Yankees fan.

love the cowboys. no fan of either the yankees(red sox fan here) or the lakers.

[Ren]

Still need a decent C, would hate going into the season with Haywood

[Cowboys&LakersFan]

Still need a decent C, would hate going into the season with Haywood

He's not a bad center. Good defender/rebounder and a decent finisher around the rim. That's all the Mavs need. You guys seriously overrate Chandler. He's nothing without a good point guard. He's simply a product of playing with good point guards like CP3 and Kidd. He's struggled when playing with an average point guard. I don't see him making much of an impact in New York. By the time this season is over whether Dallas repeats or not all y'all will be saying Thank Gkd we didn't overpay for Chandler.

[trickblue]

Odom is a very decent player... Cuban is playing Chess...

I'm pretty sure he is going after Dalembert...

I applaud his efforts...

[UVAwahoos]

Odom is a very decent player... Cuban is playing Chess...

I'm pretty sure he is going after Dalembert...

I applaud his efforts...

lol

Did you figure this out by reading any article written about Dalembert in the last week? It's not some breaking news. They're trying to sign him to a one year deal to have cap space in 2012. Houston is also going after him.

[RoyTheHammer]

I love how you guys think Cuban could actually sway Stern into stopping this trade.

That wasn't really the point.. although yes, its a league owned team so i think the league owners have a say for sure in how the league manages that team.

The point was Cuban whined that the LA trade was unfair, yet this one seems perfectly fair to him?

I get that he's trying to do what's best for his team at any means necessary, but this is a pathetic look for him.

It would have been best for that franchise if that deal had gone through. Now they're going to lose CP3 anyway, and they'll get nothing for it.

[RoyTheHammer]

Lakers frantically scrambling to make moves after getting their *** swept by the Mavs last season. D Will is gonna end up in Dallas now. We're playing chess and winning here. Picked up Odom for absolutely nothing.

Also, continue to LOL @ any Lakers fans who also root for the Cowboys. If you're not a hot girl that's just dumb and cute, then do not get on message boards and try to talk sports. You have zero credibility as a human. I'm sure you're also a Yankees fan.

:rolleyes:

[ABQCOWBOY]

Interesting. Cuban doesn't seem to be protesting the trade.

Also:

Chris_Broussard Chris Broussard
Hearing rumblings that league may have pulled out of CP deal
14 minutes ago

[CATCH17]

Interesting. Cuban doesn't seem to be protesting the trade.

Also:

Chris_Broussard Chris Broussard
Hearing rumblings that league may have pulled out of CP deal
14 minutes ago

Good. Just helps the Mavs chances of getting Williams/Paul.


Hopefully Howard doesn't go to LA so all 3 guys will be an option next year.

[ABQCOWBOY]

Good. Just helps the Mavs chances of getting Williams/Paul.


Hopefully Howard doesn't go to LA so all 3 guys will be an option next year.

The trade to Dallas makes sense for LA. Nobody likes it but the truth is that Odom fits the triangle but not a conventional post game. He is an open court guy and he would fit in an offense that slashes to the basket. That's not the Lakers this coming season. It also saves the Lakers 32 Million over the next two years.

As far as a Williams, Paul and Howard, well, if Howard doesn't get traded this year, he will likely sign an extension with Orlando and he is not going to be an option for next off season IMO, if that happens. I don't know about Paul. I think he's headed for a legal battle with the league and if he wins that, he will be a Laker I think. If he doesn't, he may end up in Orlando next year.

Williams has stated that he is going back to the Nets. I am not sure where that leaves him for next year.

[Cowboys&LakersFan]

^ There is no way Dwight signs an extension with Orlando. He knows he can't win there. They don't have any assets to try acquire another star to help him out nor do they have cap space.

[kristie]

^ why don't the hornets just trade paul to orlando & have him play with howard?

[ABQCOWBOY]

^ why don't the hornets just trade paul to orlando & have him play with howard?

Orlando doesn't have the cap nor the players to trade for him. Because he is still under contract, it would have to be a trade scenario.

[Cowboys&LakersFan]

Another thing I just noticed the Mavs have one of the best benches in NBA history.

Lamar - Current reigning 6th man of the year
Jet - Former 6th man of the year and without question the best bench scorer
Carter - While he's not even close to the Carter we saw in Toronto he can still get you 15-20 ppg.
Roddy B - He was injured last year, but when he was healthy he proved to be very dynamic point guard who can score in bunches,

They have one again the best bench in the NBA.