View Full Version : what if alex smith falls to #11?
RoysAHitta
03-27-2005, 06:39 PM
i know it's highly unlikely, but if he falls to #11 it would be hard to overlook him with our qb troubles dating back since aikman. its becoming more and more obvious that we are looking for a superbowl win now, but still he could be the future. would you take him?
peacockaja
03-27-2005, 06:40 PM
Trade the pick to the highest bidder
blindzebra
03-27-2005, 06:41 PM
How about we find out about Henson first. :rolleyes:
Trade the pick to the highest bidder
Cha-ching, we have a winner !!!
jksmith269
03-27-2005, 06:44 PM
Take him and you still have Henson as a backup........
dargonking999
03-27-2005, 06:47 PM
i know it's highly unlikely, but if he falls to #11 it would be hard to overlook him with our qb troubles dating back since aikman. its becoming more and more obvious that we are looking for a superbowl win now, but still he could be the future. would you take him?
trade the pick for 3rd and a 2nd and a 7 or 6. whoever is the highest, we dont need another oung QB< BP said he still has faith in henson, why ruin his confidece by bringing in another QB.
Fletch
03-27-2005, 06:49 PM
Trade the pick! Stockpile.
blindzebra
03-27-2005, 06:50 PM
Take him and you still have Henson as a backup........
Henson has more talent and a year in the system, he would not be 3rd string.:rolleyes:
The30YardSlant
03-27-2005, 06:54 PM
Take him
Smith > Henson
dargonking999
03-27-2005, 06:56 PM
Take him
Smith > Henson
How do you know, how do you judge a QB who comes from college, to a QB who's been in the system for a year and already has game experince. If BP didnt want to throw Henson into the Fire why would he throw this rookie into the fire. SHow me that SMith is gonna be better than henson then i'll agree untill then thats just an opinion and i doubt BP feels the same way.
jobberone
03-27-2005, 06:59 PM
Trade the pick to the highest bidder
Ditto.
The30YardSlant
03-27-2005, 07:00 PM
How do you know, how do you judge a QB who comes from college, to a QB who's been in the system for a year and already has game experince. If BP didnt want to throw Henson into the Fire why would he throw this rookie into the fire. SHow me that SMith is gonna be better than henson then i'll agree untill then thats just an opinion and i doubt BP feels the same way.
Alex Smith = Heisman candidate, very athletic, 3 years of college, smartest QB Ive seen in a LONG time.
Drew Henson = 8 games in college, not near as athletic, unproven
Ill take Smith, thanks
dargonking999
03-27-2005, 07:02 PM
Alex Smith = Heisman candidate, very athletic, 3 years of college, smartest QB Ive seen in a LONG time.
Drew Henson = 8 games in college, not near as athletic, unproven
Ill take Smith, thanks
i'll take a NFL QB over college, how many times have i heard a player get all these acclaims and come into the NFL and fail
blindzebra
03-27-2005, 07:06 PM
Alex Smith = Heisman candidate, very athletic, 3 years of college, smartest QB Ive seen in a LONG time.
Drew Henson = 8 games in college, not near as athletic, unproven
Ill take Smith, thanks
He played more than 8 games.
He was a good enough athlete to play in two professional sports.
Smith has system QB BUST written all over him.
How is a rookie QB proven? :rolleyes:
Chuck 54
03-27-2005, 07:09 PM
Frankly, I think Smith will take longer to get ready, though he has a huge upside.
Personally, I'd rather have Rodgers, who's supposed to be a very accurate passer...I saw his game against USC this year, and he was incredible.
StonetheCrow77
03-27-2005, 07:11 PM
It's been too long since people have seen Henson play in college... the effect of his play has worn off... Smith is the new kid on the block... the one with the shiny bike that everyone likes... Henson's bike is all rusty and used... I'll take the used one, since he's already ours... let someone else scratch up the shiny bike...
RoysAHitta
03-27-2005, 07:14 PM
i'd take smith and not think twice personally.
Typhus
03-27-2005, 07:16 PM
Cha-ching, we have a winner !!!
Winner Winner Chicken Dinnnnnnner.............
There will be leverage handed over to the lucky franchise that Rogers or Smith drops down to.
Could that team be the Cowboys? Maybe, but it all depends on who is willing to trade up and at what point they feel that player will be taken.
If that scenario falls into our lap at 11, and either is still their, I think there will be some signifigant offers on the table.
I would take a 3rd and 5-7 slot drop from where we are at 11,, but no more. We hold possibly one of the last impact slots in this draft.
Rack Bauer
03-27-2005, 07:16 PM
Trade the pick to the highest bidder
Exactly.
How about we find out about Henson first.
We wanted to find out about Carter instead of drafting Leftwich. How'd that turn out? Not saying we should draft Smith, just giving you a view from the other side of the coin.
I wouldn't be upset if we drafted Smith, but I know it ain't gonna happen.
dbair1967
03-27-2005, 07:18 PM
i know it's highly unlikely, but if he falls to #11 it would be hard to overlook him with our qb troubles dating back since aikman. its becoming more and more obvious that we are looking for a superbowl win now, but still he could be the future. would you take him?
not even a question in my mind...trade down
we dont need a QB, especially one who is no more of a sure thing then the highly talented guy whos' already on the roster and wont cost a tremendous signing bonus
David
Fletch
03-27-2005, 07:18 PM
Too bad Leinart didn't enter the draft. That way the chances of 3 QB's going in the top 10 increase greatly, pushing players that we need further down the board. I just hope we stay put at #11.
I won't mind so much if we trade our #20 pick and move down to stockpile, and maybe get our 3rd rounder back.
dbair1967
03-27-2005, 07:19 PM
Take him
Smith > Henson
no, he isnt
David
jksmith269
03-27-2005, 07:19 PM
Maybe its the system but Smith had 47td's and less than 8 int's while a starter at Utah. He got his bachelors in less than 3 years....How many Qb's have received a standing O at their work out in history???????Very few.....I'm not saying give up on Drew Henson but cmon there is no real compairison.......and talking about QB's like Leaf and couch and others who were highly touted that came and were busts but I think you gotta look at the teams they played for Couch had the talent but not the supporting cast......Do you really think Troy would have done as well as he did here if he would have to had played in Cleveland????? NO
If Smith were available at 11 I think you gotta look at what can I get for the pick and who else is available......If you get someone like GB offering both of there seconds and there first I'd trade the pick
The30YardSlant
03-27-2005, 07:20 PM
He played more than 8 games.
He was a good enough athlete to play in two professional sports.
Smith has system QB BUST written all over him.
How is a rookie QB proven? :rolleyes:
No, Henson played 8 games in college
Smith is much faster and more agile than Henson
By that token, every college QB in a system has bust written all over him. Peyton Mannign was in a system in Tennessee, howd he turn out?
How is any QB worthy odf being drafted proven? They prove it through their Heisman runner up college talent.
The30YardSlant
03-27-2005, 07:20 PM
no, he isnt
David
Yes, he is
dbair1967
03-27-2005, 07:21 PM
Alex Smith = Heisman candidate, very athletic, 3 years of college, smartest QB Ive seen in a LONG time.
Drew Henson = 8 games in college, not near as athletic, unproven
Ill take Smith, thanks
Henson's Wonderlic was higher than Smith's...
Henson only started eight games, he played in more than 20...how many times does this have to be explained?
Smith reminds me too much of David Klingler...eerily similar in style, both also played in gimmicky offenses...its pretty much been proven that QB's from pass happy, defense poor, nintendo gimmick style offenses dont fare well in the NFL
David
dbair1967
03-27-2005, 07:22 PM
Yes, he is
maybe in your opinion...on the other hand had Henson played against the lackluster competition that Smith did for the couple of yrs he started there is no telling what number's he'd have put up
David
dbair1967
03-27-2005, 07:24 PM
No, Henson played 8 games in college
Smith is much faster and more agile than Henson
By that token, every college QB in a system has bust written all over him. Peyton Mannign was in a system in Tennessee, howd he turn out?
How is any QB worthy odf being drafted proven? They prove it through their Heisman runner up college talent.
what the hay does heisman status have to do with anything? Ty Detmer and Gino Torreta kinda shoot your idea down dont they?
and who cares how fast Smith is? last time I checked QB's rarely run 40 yd dashes...I care about throwing ability, release, accuracy, decision making and ability to throw under pressure and take hits
David
The30YardSlant
03-27-2005, 07:25 PM
Henson's Wonderlic was higher than Smith's...
Henson only started eight games, he played in more than 20...how many times does this have to be explained?
Smith reminds me too much of David Klingler...eerily similar in style, both also played in gimmicky offenses...its pretty much been proven that QB's from pass happy, defense poor, nintendo gimmick style offenses dont fare well in the NFL
David
Kinda like the system Peyton Manning was in at Tennessee and the offense Trpy Aikman was in at UCLA? They played in "nintendo" offenses. :rolleyes: They were pretty good last time I checked.
blindzebra
03-27-2005, 07:25 PM
No, Henson played 8 games in college
Smith is much faster and more agile than Henson
By that token, every college QB in a system has bust written all over him. Peyton Mannign was in a system in Tennessee, howd he turn out?
How is any QB worthy odf being drafted proven? They prove it through their Heisman runner up college talent.
The word CLUELESS comes to mind. ;)
dbair1967
03-27-2005, 07:27 PM
Kinda like the system Peyton Manning was in at Tennessee and the offense Trpy Aikman was in at UCLA? They played in "nintendo" offenses. :rolleyes: They were pretty good last time I checked.
please tell me you arnt serious...Manning and Aikman didnt play in shotgun, spread the field type offenses agains poorous opposition...they played in pro style attacks in major conferences with bigtime NFL talent all over the field on the opposing teams
I'm not saying Smith will suck, but the style of offense he played in combined with the poor competition he faced on a weekly basis definitely throws up a red flag IMO...honestly I dont even think he'd be a 1st rd pick in most drafts, its just that this one is so QB poor that he's being overvalued
David
The30YardSlant
03-27-2005, 07:30 PM
what the hay does heisman status have to do with anything? Ty Detmer and Gino Torreta kinda shoot your idea down dont they?
and who cares how fast Smith is? last time I checked QB's rarely run 40 yd dashes...I care about throwing ability, release, accuracy, decision making and ability to throw under pressure and take hits
David
No, but mobility sure helps.
blindzebra
03-27-2005, 07:31 PM
Exactly.
We wanted to find out about Carter instead of drafting Leftwich. How'd that turn out? Not saying we should draft Smith, just giving you a view from the other side of the coin.
I wouldn't be upset if we drafted Smith, but I know it ain't gonna happen.
Actually we had Carter and Hutchinson developing and neither is close to Henson's ability.
StonetheCrow77
03-27-2005, 07:32 PM
No, but mobility sure helps.
some players... Andre Ware?? How much did it help him? QC? Helped him a lot, but in the end where did it get him?
Fletch
03-27-2005, 07:32 PM
Pass on Alex. Let the Whiners take him. The Yorks will have him so screwed up that he'll eventually be the next Bubby Brister.
The30YardSlant
03-27-2005, 07:33 PM
please tell me you arnt serious...Manning and Aikman didnt play in shotgun, spread the field type offenses agains poorous opposition...they played in pro style attacks in major conferences with bigtime NFL talent all over the field on the opposing teams
I'm not saying Smith will suck, but the style of offense he played in combined with the poor competition he faced on a weekly basis definitely throws up a red flag IMO...honestly I dont even think he'd be a 1st rd pick in most drafts, its just that this one is so QB poor that he's being overvalued
David
Yes, they played against better talent. However, Aikman's offense was consisated of 5 yard outs to WRs and was a timing offense. Manning's offense was 4 and 5 WR sets all the time, he just didnt play shotgun all the time.
The30YardSlant
03-27-2005, 07:33 PM
some players... Andre Ware?? How much did it help him? QC? Helped him a lot, but in the end where did it get him?
Imagine if Peyton Manning ran a 4.5 40?
Rack Bauer
03-27-2005, 07:34 PM
Actually we had Carter and Hutchinson developing and neither is close to Henson's ability.
And you know this from watching half a game?
My god you're fantastic! :rolleyes:
Anyway... I wouldn't be against drafting him, but I'm not against giving Drew more time either. Same as it was in 2003. I wanted to give Carter time, but Leftwich was #1 on my draft list. That said, Alex Smith is no Byron Leftwich.
speedkilz88
03-27-2005, 07:35 PM
There is a long line of bust QBs who played in wide open shot gun attacks. Can't think of any that have succeeded.
The30YardSlant
03-27-2005, 07:35 PM
The word CLUELESS comes to mind. ;)
The words Poor evaluater of talent come to mind... ;)
dargonking999
03-27-2005, 07:36 PM
The words Poor evaluater of talent come to mind... ;)
the word over hyped comes to mind:)
blindzebra
03-27-2005, 07:37 PM
The words Poor evaluater of talent come to mind... ;)
That's what I've been saying since your first post.:D
RoysAHitta
03-27-2005, 07:41 PM
henson was playing against the worst d in the nfl for his 30 minutes of fame, and he threw a pick or two and was all in all horrible. i dont know how anyone from anywhere says hes got more talent than alex smith. im not saying the bears game was a precursor to hensons possible nfl success, but given hensons 8 college games compared to alex smiths impressive college career.. smith is the safer bet.
The30YardSlant
03-27-2005, 07:42 PM
That's what I've been saying since your first post.:D
:rolleyes:
dbair1967
03-27-2005, 07:43 PM
No, but mobility sure helps.
mobile run around QB's with lackluster passing skills-- zero super bowl rings
everyone else-- all super bowl rings
David
dbair1967
03-27-2005, 07:44 PM
Yes, they played against better talent. However, Aikman's offense was consisated of 5 yard outs to WRs and was a timing offense. Manning's offense was 4 and 5 WR sets all the time, he just didnt play shotgun all the time.
whatever man...its apparent you saw niether guy play in college
David
StonetheCrow77
03-27-2005, 07:46 PM
Smith is a safer bet?? Did you actually watch him play or did you just take this from what you read? The kid is good, but he looked nothing compared to the way Henson played in college... he would have got more playing time, but he was competing with Tom Brady... I'm sure everyone here thinks Brady is a horrible QB, right?? Who did Smith compete with? He was given the job pretty much and even then his coach didn't want to start him then... he had to...
dbair1967
03-27-2005, 07:46 PM
henson was playing against the worst d in the nfl for his 30 minutes of fame, and he threw a pick or two and was all in all horrible. i dont know how anyone from anywhere says hes got more talent than alex smith. im not saying the bears game was a precursor to hensons possible nfl success, but given hensons 8 college games compared to alex smiths impressive college career.. smith is the safer bet.
geez man you are so right...30 minutes of NFL football should easily tell us a guy is hopeless...what the hell were we thinking?
:rolleyes:
David
The30YardSlant
03-27-2005, 07:48 PM
mobile run around QB's with lackluster passing skills-- zero super bowl rings
everyone else-- all super bowl rings
David
Troy Aikman was mobile is his early years. Roger Staubach was mobile. You dont have to be Mike Vick to have mobility.
RoysAHitta
03-27-2005, 07:48 PM
should i even the mention the most important stat when comparing henson and smith?
henson - baseball player.
smith - football player.
how many baseball playing qb's have we tried since aikman? how many have worked out? how many have been successful in the nfl period?
thank you.
blindzebra
03-27-2005, 07:49 PM
henson was playing against the worst d in the nfl for his 30 minutes of fame, and he threw a pick or two and was all in all horrible. i dont know how anyone from anywhere says hes got more talent than alex smith. im not saying the bears game was a precursor to hensons possible nfl success, but given hensons 8 college games compared to alex smiths impressive college career.. smith is the safer bet.
He threw one pick, the game was tied, he played 27 games in college.
A guy in a wide-open offense that has not played a down in the NFL is a safer bet? Ever heard of Klinger or any of the recent Texas Tech QBs?
Come back when you have a clue.
The30YardSlant
03-27-2005, 07:49 PM
henson - baseball player.
smith - football player.
Bingo
blindzebra
03-27-2005, 07:50 PM
should i even the mention the most important stat when comparing henson and smith?
henson - baseball player.
smith - football player.
how many baseball playing qb's have we tried since aikman? how many have worked out? how many have been successful in the nfl period?
thank you.
Elway was a baseball player.
Aikman played baseball, too.
blindzebra
03-27-2005, 07:51 PM
Bingo
That Elway guy sure sucked. :rolleyes:
Research how he ended up in Denver.
The30YardSlant
03-27-2005, 07:51 PM
Elway was a baseball player.
Aikman played baseball, too.
Yes, but they didnt walk away for 3 years to do it.
The30YardSlant
03-27-2005, 07:52 PM
That Elway guy sure sucked. :rolleyes:
Research how he ended up in Denver.
Henson sucked at Baseball, and thats his best sport from what hes shown so far. He also completely walked away for 3 years.
blindzebra
03-27-2005, 07:53 PM
Yes, but they didnt walk away for 3 years to do it.
Yep, and Staubach came to Dallas right from college too. ;)
RoysAHitta
03-27-2005, 07:54 PM
hutch and quincy left far to sour of a taste in my mouth to take in another baseball player with open arms. apparently you guys deemed them successful.
StonetheCrow77
03-27-2005, 07:55 PM
Troy Aikman was mobile is his early years. Roger Staubach was mobile. You dont have to be Mike Vick to have mobility.
If you are using Aikman's mobility as an example (any time in his career), then you need to seriously start learning something about football... he had good footwork... he sidestepped well... but he was always a lumbering, blundering TALL pocket QB out of the pocket... he was not mobile...
Young, McNabb, Favre... those are the names you need to start using...
erosion of credibility starts with idiotic statements...
Cbz40
03-27-2005, 07:55 PM
Roger played Golf
Elway played Golf
Unitas played Golf
and on and on and on.
Take Merriman, Williams, Edwards, Barron.............if those guys are not there then I might consider Smith.
The30YardSlant
03-27-2005, 07:55 PM
Yep, and Staubach came to Dallas right from college too. ;)
Staubach was in the Navy, Henson played a whole nother sport. HUGE difference.
StonetheCrow77
03-27-2005, 07:56 PM
Henson sucked at Baseball, and thats his best sport from what hes shown so far. He also completely walked away for 3 years.
baseball was not his best sport... he simply choose it because there is less risk of injury and a good chance to make a lot of money... seriously man, quit talking while your ahead...
jobberone
03-27-2005, 07:57 PM
mobile run around QB's with lackluster passing skills-- zero super bowl rings
everyone else-- all super bowl rings
David
Not sure what you mean.
Young won a SB. That was a mobile QB.
The point was what would you do with the pick. First he isn't going to fall that far irregardless how well he turns out in the pros.
If he does u trade the pick.
The30YardSlant
03-27-2005, 08:00 PM
If you are using Aikman's mobility as an example (any time in his career), then you need to seriously start learning something about football... he had good footwork... he sidestepped well... but he was always a lumbering, blundering TALL pocket QB out of the pocket... he was not mobile...
Young, McNabb, Favre... those are the names you need to start using...
erosion of credibility starts with idiotic statements...
Boy, somebody needs to brush up on 1990s Cowboys football. Aikman's running diving TD against Denver in 1995 comes to mind. As does his 2 15+ yard runs for 1st downs in Supoer Bowl 27. His 10 career rushing TDs come to mind. His 24 runs of longer than 20 yards in his career come to mind. What was I thinking. :rolleyes:
Your right, erosion of credability does start with idiotic statements.
blindzebra
03-27-2005, 08:00 PM
Staubach was in the Navy, Henson played a whole nother sport. HUGE difference.
Let's see being in the Navy versus playing a professional sport, being under the pressure of being a Yankee, having to deal with a lot of money...hmmm...I'd say Henson has an ADVANTAGE in that comparison.
I'd rather have a mature and talented player that had to deal with all he's gone through with a year in our system than a talented rookie from a school that ran a gimmick offense.
The30YardSlant
03-27-2005, 08:01 PM
baseball was not his best sport... he simply choose it because there is less risk of injury and a good chance to make a lot of money... seriously man, quit talking while your ahead...
Youve already been proven wrong tweice in this thread by facts, you really want to make it another? Just making sure before I take your argument down once agaion.
StonetheCrow77
03-27-2005, 08:02 PM
Boy, somebody needs to brush up on 1990s Cowboys football. Aikman's running diving TD against Denver in 1995 comes to mind. As does his 2 15+ yard runs for 1st downs in Supoer Bowl 27. His 10 career rushing TDs come to mind. His 24 runs of longer than 20 yards in his career come to mind. What was I thinking. :rolleyes:
Your right, erosion of credability does start with idiotic statements.
Vinny had a rushing TD last year... I'm sure that cemented his legend as one the most mobile QB's in NFL History, right?
RoysAHitta
03-27-2005, 08:02 PM
just for fun, say henson with all his time away from football somehow entered this years draft. do you think he would even be a first day pick? he'd probably go 6th round and be practice squad material for a team. smith on the other hand is going to more than likely be a top 5 pick this year.
how exactly does that measure up to henson > smith? trust me i want a successful qb and dont care how or where we get him. but to say that taking smith would hurt the team is plain and simply idiotic. if henson couldnt beat out a 40 year old qb, i really doubt he would stand a chance against a young college stud.
how long of a project exactly is henson? at first we thought he'd start be starting by the end of last year, now its a good two years until he starts after bledsoe is gone. maybe its time we face reality.
The30YardSlant
03-27-2005, 08:02 PM
Let's see being in the Navy versus playing a professional sport, being under the pressure of being a Yankee, having to deal with a lot of money...hmmm...I'd say Henson has an ADVANTAGE in that comparison.
I'd rather have a mature and talented player that had to deal with all he's gone through with a year in our system than a talented rookie from a school that ran a gimmick offense.
Lets see: Guy whos faced the challenges, both physical and mental, of being in the service vs a guy who played baseball.....hmmmmm.....advantage Staubach. The Navy is more physically demanding, more mentally challenging, and requires more dedication than baseball ever could. Nturity wise, the navy is far superior to baseball.
The30YardSlant
03-27-2005, 08:04 PM
Vinny had a rushing TD last year... I'm sure that cemented his legend as one the most mobile QB's in NFL History, right?
Just choose to ignore the facts that dispute your inane comments, thats fine :rolleyes: Some RBs dont have 24 runs of 20 yards in their careers.
StonetheCrow77
03-27-2005, 08:05 PM
Youve already been proven wrong tweice in this thread by facts, you really want to make it another? Just making sure before I take your argument down once agaion.
go ahead and try to take it down... I'm sure you can't even tell me how Henson looked as a college baseball player... in fact I'm sure you can't tell me how he looks as an NFL QB... why? He hasn't had the chance to prove himself, yet... your making an argument that you can't support... quit making excuses, just say that you prefer Smith based on opinion and not fact... move on...
blindzebra
03-27-2005, 08:06 PM
Lets see: Guy whos faced the challenges, both physical and mental, of being in the service vs a guy who played baseball.....hmmmmm.....advantage Staubach. The Navy is more physically demanding, more mentally challenging, and requires more dedication than baseball ever could. Nturity wise, the navy is far superior to baseball.
Your lack of logic is only challenged by your lack of facts, I'm bored and you are not enough of a challenge to continue.
The30YardSlant
03-27-2005, 08:07 PM
go ahead and try to take it down... I'm sure you can't even tell me how Henson looked as a college baseball player... in fact I'm sure you can't tell me how he looks as an NFL QB... why? He hasn't had the chance to prove himself, yet... your making an argument that you can't support... quit making excuses, just say that you prefer Smith based on opinion and not fact... move on...
My choice is based on an opinion? No ****!!!! :banghead: The difference is, Im backing upo my opinion with valid arguments, you are just stating your opinion, like you just said Aikman wasnt mobile, I posted facts that he was. Notice you are the only one arguing that Aikman didnt have mobility early on? Theres a reason for it.
StonetheCrow77
03-27-2005, 08:08 PM
Lets see: Guy whos faced the challenges, both physical and mental, of being in the service vs a guy who played baseball.....hmmmmm.....advantage Staubach. The Navy is more physically demanding, more mentally challenging, and requires more dedication than baseball ever could. Nturity wise, the navy is far superior to baseball.
I was in the Navy... Cryptological Technician 2nd class (97 to 01)... I can promise you that the Navy is not physically challenging... what's so hard about it? Climbing up and down ladder wells? Falling out of your rack? Standing a 4 hour Officer of the Deck Watch? C'mon, come better than that...
The30YardSlant
03-27-2005, 08:09 PM
Your lack of logic is only challenged by your lack of facts, I'm bored and you are not enough of a challenge to continue.
You either have a underated respect for our armed service men or you vastly overate the challenges of baseball. Either way, your argument is screwed.
The30YardSlant
03-27-2005, 08:10 PM
I was in the Navy... Cryptological Technician 2nd class (97 to 01)... I can promise you that the Navy is not physically challenging... what's so hard about it? Climbing up and down ladder wells? Falling out of your rack? Standing a 4 hour Officer of the Deck Watch? C'mon, come better than that...
Whats so demanding about baseball? I played baseball in HS. Running 90 feet? Throwing a baseball across the field? Fielding? :rolleyes:
The30YardSlant
03-27-2005, 08:11 PM
BTW, what did Staubach do in the Navy? Because there is a difference between a technician and a guy who is planning on getting shot at....
StonetheCrow77
03-27-2005, 08:12 PM
You either have a underated respect for our armed service men or you vastly overate the challenges of baseball. Either way, your argument is screwed.
haha no, I have first hand experience... you have no idea what your talking about... the Marine Corps is physically demanding... the army is physically demanding... the Navy is not... go look at some of the Navy Chiefs... tell me how fit they look... I respect the job the Navy does, it's just a different mission... the Navy is there to put weapons on target... be that missles or jar heads... I know it doesn't take a 4 minute mile to run a Fire Control mission...
blindzebra
03-27-2005, 08:13 PM
You either have a underated respect for our armed service men or you vastly overate the challenges of baseball. Either way, your argument is screwed.
I have all the respect in the world for the armed services, but try as I might I can't see how being an officer in the Navy physically prepares you to play QB in the NFL?
I can't see how it teaches you to deal with the media.
I can't see how it prepares you to handle a large amount of money or fame.
Screwed, not hardly.
StonetheCrow77
03-27-2005, 08:14 PM
BTW, what did Staubach do in the Navy? Because there is a difference between a technician and a guy who is planning on getting shot at....
Exactly how many people do you think get shot at in the Navy?? I promise you, more sailors get shot at in Norfolk, VA by gang bangers than in Iraq...
ghst187
03-27-2005, 08:14 PM
i yawn and take someone else or trade down
The30YardSlant
03-27-2005, 08:16 PM
I have all the respect in the world for the armed services, but try as I might I can't see how being an officer in the Navy physically prepares you to play QB in the NFL?
I can't see how it teaches you to deal with the media.
I can't see how it prepares you to handle a large amount of money or fame.
Screwed, not hardly.
I would rather be playing QB than risk getting killed in the navy. Theres usually a little more pressure on someone whos country he is defending than someone who is playing QB.
StonetheCrow77
03-27-2005, 08:16 PM
I have all the respect in the world for the armed services, but try as I might I can't see how being an officer in the Navy physically prepares you to play QB in the NFL?
I can't see how it teaches you to deal with the media.
I can't see how it prepares you to handle a large amount of money or fame.
Screwed, not hardly.
I'll disagree there... you learn how to handle situations in extremely stressfull enviornments... if you can't think fast, you may get good soilders/sailors killed... try fighting an engine room fire once at sea...
MichaelWinicki
03-27-2005, 08:18 PM
That's what I've been saying since your first post.:D
Would you guys just stop! You're cracking me up! LOL!
The30YardSlant
03-27-2005, 08:24 PM
Would you guys just stop! You're cracking me up! LOL!
Come join us Winiki :D
blindzebra
03-27-2005, 08:25 PM
I'll disagree there... you learn how to handle situations in extremely stressfull enviornments... if you can't think fast, you may get good soilders/sailors killed... try fighting an engine room fire once at sea...
How does that mental stress PHYSICALLY prepare you. Read it again.:D
The30YardSlant
03-27-2005, 08:27 PM
How does that mental stress PHYSICALLY prepare you. Read it again.:D
Umm.....How do you need to physically prepare for money and fame? :shootfoot
MichaelWinicki
03-27-2005, 08:28 PM
Come join us Winiki :D
I would but you guys are having too much fun. I give you credit. You guys don't name call anyway.
StonetheCrow77
03-27-2005, 08:30 PM
How does that mental stress PHYSICALLY prepare you. Read it again.:D
your in the huddle, down 6 points with a minute:30 to go... Captain Comback is looking you in the eyes telling you the play calmly... you have no doubt in your mind that your going to win the game... why? Because Roger was that good... you don't think the Navy had something to do to prepare him in situations like that... football isn't all physical...
blindzebra
03-27-2005, 08:34 PM
Umm.....How do you need to physically prepare for money and fame? :shootfoot
It's pretty simple, you see there are things called sentences, and you put words together in them to express thoughts.
When switching thoughts one uses a new sentence, or another thing called a paragraph, to seperate these thoughts.
Perhaps you will learn it after spring break.
The30YardSlant
03-27-2005, 08:38 PM
It's pretty simple, you see there are things called sentences, and you put words together in them to express thoughts.
When switching thoughts one uses a new sentence, or another thing called a paragraph, to seperate these thoughts.
Perhaps you will learn it after spring break.
To bad you never distinguised them in that post of yours. :rolleyes:
Dpending on who is available, trade down. We have a young qb with potential already on the roster, and he has had a year and a half in the system (by the time the season starts)
HH, BZ, and Winicki, please shut up
:) just kidding...
or am i?
jobberone
03-27-2005, 08:43 PM
This thread would be hilarious but my kids fought all weekend.
The30YardSlant
03-27-2005, 08:44 PM
Dpending on who is available, trade down. We have a young qb with potential already on the roster, and he has had a year and a half in the system (by the time the season starts)
HH, BZ, and Winicki, please shut up
:) just kidding...
or am i?
I dont know, but let me turn on my blindzebra grammar smack mode:
1: That I should be capitalized
2: Theres another e in depending
3: There should be more periods in that post
:D
MichaelWinicki
03-27-2005, 08:45 PM
I dont know, but let me turn on my blindzebra grammar smack mode:
1: That I should be capitalized
2: Theres another e in depending
3: There should be more periods in that post
:D
LOL!
That's good!
I dont know, but let me turn on my blindzebra grammar smack mode:
1: That I should be capitalized
2: Theres another e in depending
3: There should be more periods in that post
:DQuiet you, I remember when I had to stop you from embarrassing (sp?...god I hate posting infront of you :() me with your lame grammar smack............................................. .....punk
LOL!
That's good!:banghead:
The30YardSlant
03-27-2005, 08:47 PM
Quiet you, I remember when I had to stop you from embarrassing (sp?...god I hate posting infront of you :() me with your lame grammar smack............................................. .....punk
To many periods in that post :D
MichaelWinicki
03-27-2005, 08:53 PM
Dpending on who is available, trade down. We have a young qb with potential already on the roster, and he has had a year and a half in the system (by the time the season starts)
HH, BZ, and Winicki, please shut up
:) just kidding...
or am i?
Tio... am I going to have to go get the REAL board king? :)
The30YardSlant
03-27-2005, 08:53 PM
This thread is borderline legendary :D
To many periods in that post :DNot enough periods in that post! Thats one for the good guys!!!
StonetheCrow77
03-27-2005, 09:00 PM
there are enough periods in my posts for everyone else... it'll be ok...
The30YardSlant
03-27-2005, 09:01 PM
Not enough periods in that post! Thats one for the good guys!!!
Wasnt a complete sentence, therefore does not require a period.
Tio... am I going to have to go get the REAL board king? :)I'll smoke that fool...
http://img41.exs.cx/img41/5568/king9nl.jpg
Wasnt a complete sentence, therefore does not require a period.In the word of Dwoodson at nfl-fans...
F U Hitler!!!!
The30YardSlant
03-27-2005, 09:04 PM
I'll smoke that fool...
http://img41.exs.cx/img41/5568/king9nl.jpg
??? :ohno:
The30YardSlant
03-27-2005, 09:05 PM
In the word of Dwoodson at nfl-fans...
F U Hitler!!!!
:D
Hey, how do you get that user title under your name? My profile doesnt have a section for that....
??? :ohno:Thats it? A failed attempt at an oh no emoticon? I expect fear and praise for my greatness. You are slipping man... What happened to the old hh?
:D
Hey, how do you get that user title under your name? My profile doesnt have a section for that....Its only for the greats like me. You will never know...unless you ask three times...I hate that...
http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:_e6TDvCVSOYJ:www.moviebadgirls.com/capimage/Spy_Who_Shagged_Me_05.JPG
sigh...pm hos HH...where did everyone go?
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