View Full Version : DMN: Rob Ryan: Terence Newman could play press coverage if 'his life was on the line'
WoodysGirl
12-30-2011, 03:39 PM
ByJon Machota / Special Contributor
jonmachota32@yahoo.com | Bio
3:13 PM on Fri., Dec. 30, 2011 | Permalink
IRVING -- Cowboys cornerback Terence Newman has been criticized for the large amount of cushion he's been giving opposing receivers this season.
However, when asked about the starting defensive back rarely playing press coverage, Cowboys defensive coordinator Rob Ryan said Newman could execute it, if needed.
"A lot of times it's a team game," Ryan said. "Sometimes we're playing off or a certain coverage. If they're man, he can go down there and press him. Sometimes he can go down there and press them and we'll play [cover] 2 behind him. There's a lot of different things with us. I know if he had to cover somebody and his life was on the line and it was a man coverage thing, I'm sure Terence would be down there pressing."
Does Ryan want him pressing more?
Read Ryan's response: http://cowboysblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2011/12/rob-ryan-terence-newman-could.html
Sportsbabe
12-30-2011, 06:10 PM
That's some frackle nackle bull!!! So my understanding of this statement is: football is not TNew's life. Well, that explains everything. What in the heck was I thinking. Too high of an expectation for a guy whose job is no where near a top priority in life. I can rest easy on Sunday night.
casmith07
12-30-2011, 07:14 PM
Sounds like scheme issues.
He plays better press. Let him play, Rob. No handcuffs.
Mansta54
12-30-2011, 07:20 PM
That's some frackle nackle bull!!! So my understanding of this statement is: football is not TNew's life. Well, that explains everything. What in the heck was I thinking. Too high of an expectation for a guy whose job is no where near a top priority in life. I can rest easy on Sunday night.
I think TNews confidence is shot and he's afraid of getting beat. Jenkins in a interview earlier in the year stated that it was the CB's choice to play off the reciever or press him, TNew chooses to play off. The guy has no confidence. Scared and no confidence, is bad news for a CB..
Newman would be a great FS.
Future
12-30-2011, 07:36 PM
I think TNews confidence is shot and he's afraid of getting beat. Jenkins in a interview earlier in the year stated that it was the CB's choice to play off the reciever or press him, TNew chooses to play off. The guy has no confidence. Scared and no confidence, is bad news for a CB..
This. I don't know what happened after his first 5 or so games to make that change, but he's lost any edge he had.
Canadian BoyzFan
12-30-2011, 08:27 PM
Newman would be a great FS.
I like my FS to be able to catch a ball.
No thanks.
JohnsKey19
12-30-2011, 08:40 PM
I think TNews confidence is shot and he's afraid of getting beat. Jenkins in a interview earlier in the year stated that it was the CB's choice to play off the reciever or press him, TNew chooses to play off. The guy has no confidence. Scared and no confidence, is bad news for a CB..
His confidence is absolutely shot. I thought maybe he was hiding an injury early on. But it appears he has lost some of his physical skills leading to a lack of confidence in his ability to cover.
Hostile
12-30-2011, 08:41 PM
Wow, is it just me or that title kind of sensationalistic?
Muhast
12-30-2011, 09:27 PM
Well Jenkins and Scandrick have both been playing pretty far off the last few weeks as well.
So I hope they can press "if their life depends on it" as well.
It has to be a scheme thing, I watch a lot of football, and it's not uncommon to see CB's play off the WR. It IS uncommon to see them do it on a regular basis which is what both of our starters do. Newman plays a little bit further than Jenkins( probably 9 yards off for Newman and 7 for Jenkins). A lot of times Jenkins starts out up close and backs off before the snap.
nalam
12-30-2011, 09:33 PM
Wow, is it just me or that title kind of sensationalistic?
It is sensationalising normal news :(
It is not rocket science to see Newman playing so far off the guy not to give up big plays and still get beat. Either he is not very confident on his speed (undisclosed injury?) or just passing time to milk the last few Mills from Jerry.
Risen Star
12-30-2011, 09:36 PM
I've always preferred off coverage with an active front seven. It allows the DBs to get their eyes into the backfield and break on throws from harrassed QBs.
Obviously the problem is our front seven isn't that disruptive.
Don Corleone
12-30-2011, 09:39 PM
It is sensationalising normal news :(
It is not rocket science to see Newman playing so far off the guy not to give up big plays and still get beat. Either he is not very confident on his speed (undisclosed injury?) or just passing time to milk the last few Mills from Jerry.
If he's milking it, then he should be benched immediately. I would lose respect for Garrett if he let players get away with that kind of stuff.
Hostile
12-30-2011, 10:02 PM
I've always preferred off coverage with an active front seven. It allows the DBs to get their eyes into the backfield and break on throws from harrassed QBs.
Obviously the problem is our front seven isn't that disruptive.I don't mind off coverage, but I hate it when it is 3rd and short. I want tight man, jam at the LOS.
Hostile
12-30-2011, 10:03 PM
It is sensationalising normal news :(
It is not rocket science to see Newman playing so far off the guy not to give up big plays and still get beat. Either he is not very confident on his speed (undisclosed injury?) or just passing time to milk the last few Mills from Jerry.I'm talking about the fact that nowhere in what Rob Ryan said is there any hint of a comment that he could play press coverage if his life depended on it.
Unless I miss it completely.
jblaze2004
12-30-2011, 10:29 PM
Newman would be a great FS.
maybe but he cannot get off a block to save his life. He would suck the big one vs the run....lol
AKATheRake
12-30-2011, 10:31 PM
I'm talking about the fact that nowhere in what Rob Ryan said is there any hint of a comment that he could play press coverage if his life depended on it.
Unless I miss it completely.
Totally agree. It's almost a shot at Newman from what I read.
I think Rob Ryan is trying to fire up an old corner that he knows probably won't be here next year.
A corner who also knows he won't be here next year.
A corner that has not been agressive enough in recent games. Not as aggressive as Rob needs him to be for this game.
So he's saying it in a way through the media that might have Newman play with a chip on his shoulder. As he should for this game.
Rob Ryan is clearly expecting this defense and more specifically the secondary to challenge and play with more intensity.
Although I usually don't like the method of calling people out through the media, I like the way Ryan is doing it here.
Eskimo
12-30-2011, 11:05 PM
I feel sorry for Rob - having to coach this loser has got to be tough. You've got a prima donna CB who thinks he is elite and is making elite money but plays scared. He is done - once you have fear as a CB you are a goner.
ninja
12-30-2011, 11:18 PM
So does the head coach Numbnuts Garrett lack the brains or cajones to go tell Ryan to have Newman to play closer than 9 yards away on 3rd and short? Or is Terri Newman out there doing whatever he pleases no matter what Garrett and/or Ryan say?
Either way, it doesn't sound good for the head coach. Either the strategy is flawed (and the head coach is too stupid to realize it) or the head coach lacks authority.
big dog cowboy
12-30-2011, 11:51 PM
Either the strategy is flawed (and the head coach is too stupid to realize it) or the head coach lacks authority.
:facepalm:
Good grief.
Sportsbabe
12-30-2011, 11:59 PM
I think TNews confidence is shot and he's afraid of getting beat. Jenkins in a interview earlier in the year stated that it was the CB's choice to play off the reciever or press him, TNew chooses to play off. The guy has no confidence. Scared and no confidence, is bad news for a CB..
I have a problem if a player is given a choice of how to play his position when he's getting beat constantly and it's not working. What do we need coaches for???
rocyaice
12-31-2011, 12:06 AM
I'm confused. Is Ryan saying its scheme or is he saying its on Newman and that he wants him to press? What does the defensive back's coach want? I don't know what to think of these comments.
Idgit
12-31-2011, 12:33 AM
I'm confused. Is Ryan saying its scheme or is he saying its on Newman and that he wants him to press? What does the defensive back's coach want? I don't know what to think of these comments.
Does Ryan want him pressing more?
"No," Ryan responded. "It just depends. Each week is different. Sometimes he'll be down there pressing the whole game, sometimes he won't. It's what we're trying to get done in our coverage."
He's saying it's scheme.
He's also indirectly saying that there are things that are dictated by what we're trying to do in coverage that don't show up when you're only looking at a clip of who's in the frame from the network broadcast, so there are reasons, sometimes, for Newman not playing more tight press coverage.
Has anyone seen Newman press a whole game???? Rob's just covering for the guy. Newman get's beat in man off, zone AND press coverage. It really does not matter - at least in man WAAAAY off, Newman has a chance of an INT or not getting burned for a TD. One can only hope anyway.
Zaxor
12-31-2011, 01:59 AM
Wow, is it just me or that title kind of sensationalistic?
yes...:p:;):D
Sarge
12-31-2011, 05:44 AM
Newman is not what he once was and it is getting worse. It needs to be addressed as a priority in the offseason IMO.
LeonDixson
12-31-2011, 06:34 AM
I'm talking about the fact that nowhere in what Rob Ryan said is there any hint of a comment that he could play press coverage if his life depended on it.
Unless I miss it completely.
It's here:
ByJon Machota / Special Contributor
jonmachota32@yahoo.com | Bio
3:13 PM on Fri., Dec. 30, 2011 | Permalink
IRVING -- Cowboys cornerback Terence Newman has been criticized for the large amount of cushion he's been giving opposing receivers this season.
However, when asked about the starting defensive back rarely playing press coverage, Cowboys defensive coordinator Rob Ryan said Newman could execute it, if needed.
"A lot of times it's a team game," Ryan said. "Sometimes we're playing off or a certain coverage. If they're man, he can go down there and press him. Sometimes he can go down there and press them and we'll play [cover] 2 behind him. There's a lot of different things with us. I know if he had to cover somebody and his life was on the line and it was a man coverage thing, I'm sure Terence would be down there pressing."
Does Ryan want him pressing more?
Read Ryan's response: http://cowboysblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2011/12/rob-ryan-terence-newman-could.html
CCBoy
12-31-2011, 07:30 AM
Wow, is it just me or that title kind of sensationalistic?
Lol, and the shine from the media coverage beckons. If I were front row seated with Rob Ryan, I think my question would be more...since Terence Newman is usually pretty strong when up front and in single coverage, what adjustments have you made instead, to reduce the number of other secondary players from blowing coverages and leaving exposed and unguarded receivers during a variety of blitz packages?
CCBoy
12-31-2011, 07:33 AM
yes...:p:;):D
He's on the same bar tab as is Galloway...:)
CCBoy
12-31-2011, 07:34 AM
:facepalm:
Good grief.
What does one expect from a ninja?:)
Marktui
12-31-2011, 09:48 AM
I've always preferred off coverage with an active front seven. It allows the DBs to get their eyes into the backfield and break on throws from harrassed QBs.
Obviously the problem is our front seven isn't that disruptive.
Problem is two fold there. No pressure and Newman doesn't drive on the ball when it's in the air. He is always a step too slow, how many times do we see the ball in the air and receiver catches it and Newman is 4 yards away from him. I do believe he is gun shy and does not want to give up the big play.
big dog cowboy
12-31-2011, 11:26 AM
Newman is not what he once was and it is getting worse. It needs to be addressed as a priority in the offseason IMO.
This is becoming more and more obvious as the season has went along. JMO but we really need two new CB's for next year. One to replace TNew and another to help when we play those teams that go four wide. If both GB and NO make to to the championship game, those are the two teams we need to think about when addressing our roster.
Sportsbabe
12-31-2011, 06:17 PM
So does the head coach Numbnuts Garrett lack the brains or cajones to go tell Ryan to have Newman to play closer than 9 yards away on 3rd and short? Or is Terri Newman out there doing whatever he pleases no matter what Garrett and/or Ryan say?
Either way, it doesn't sound good for the head coach. Either the strategy is flawed (and the head coach is too stupid to realize it) or the head coach lacks authority.
Co-sign.
Hoofbite
12-31-2011, 06:32 PM
I'd like to take out a life insurance policy on him if he were ever put in that place.
JonJon
12-31-2011, 08:05 PM
I've always preferred off coverage with an active front seven. It allows the DBs to get their eyes into the backfield and break on throws from harrassed QBs.
Obviously the problem is our front seven isn't that disruptive.
The problem is, the CB's rarely break on the ball, and if they do, they usually don't make the play.
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