Top 12 Order Set (Sort Of)

[SDogo]

1. Colts
2. Rams
3. Vikings
4. Browns
5. Bucs
6. Redskins
7. Jaguars
8. Panthers*
8. Dolphins*
10. Bills
11. Chiefs*
11. Seahawks*

*Coin flip to decide position

[GloryDaysRBack]

where do we pick if we lose?

[SDogo]

where do we pick if we lose?

13th or 14th, working on the scenario now.

I believe it will be 14th because of Arizona beating the Seahawks.

[SDogo]

The Rams and or Colts stand to get rich in this draft.

Look at the Top 12 log jam for Luck and Griffin!

Colts
Browns
Redskins
Panthers
Dolphins
Seahawks

[SDogo]

Yup 14th.

DeCastro area.......

[GloryDaysRBack]

panthers wont be taking a QB..even if luck is on board..i know it wont happen, just sayin

[gmoney112]

jaguars had to go win and take themselves out of the RG3 race

[SDogo]

jaguars had to go win and take themselves out of the RG3 race


Why would they go after RG3 after taking Gabbert?

[kevinhickey]

Indianapolis would be nuts not to draft Luck(Peyton's age and neck injury). So who is going to trade with Rams for Griffin. I would love to see Cleveland get him over Washington.

[Hostile]

1. Colts, 2-14, .539
2. Rams, 2-14, .590

3. Vikings, 3-13, .559

4. Browns, 4-12, .531
5. Buccaneers, 4-12, .551

6. Redskins, 5-11, .477
7. Jaguars, 5-11, .500

T8. Panthers, 6-10, .504
T8. Dolphins, 6-10, .504
10. Bills, 6-10, .520

T11. Chiefs, 7-9, .512
T11. Seahawks, 7-9, .512

13. Cardinals, 8-8, .469
14. Cowboys, 8-8, .473
15. Eagles, 8-8, .492
16. Jets, 8-8, .500
17. Raiders, 8-8, .504
18. Chargers, 8-8, .516
19. Bears, 8-8, .527

20. Titans, 9-7, .461

Here are how the 8 teams in the wildcard round land if they lose.

21. Broncos, 8-8, .520 (vs. Steelers)

22. Bengals, 9-7, .492 (@ Texans)
23. Giants, 9-7, .520 (vs. Falcons)

24. Texans, 10-6, .453 (vs. Bengals)
25. Falcons, 10-6, .480 (@ Giants)
26. Lions, 10-6, .535 (@ Saints)

27. Steelers, 12-4, .492 (@ Broncos)

28. Saints, 13-3, .441 (vs. Lions)

Then here are the top 2 seeds from each division on merit.

29. Ravens, 12-4, .461

T30. 49ers, 13-3, .449
T30. Patriots, 13-3, .449

32. Packers, 15-1, .473

[SDogo]

I don't like Arizona picking in front of us. Like us, they need help along the interior line and I know they have taken a real liking to DeCastro.

[gmoney112]

Why would they go after RG3 after taking Gabbert?

Because Gabbert is terrible and they need fans in the seats.

[SDogo]

Because Gabbert is terrible and they need fans in the seats.

Unless they can unload Gabbert it causes too many issues.

[MonsterD]

Ok then we have the 14th pick.

[gmoney112]

Unless they can unload Gabbert it causes too many issues.

What issues? With the rookie salary cap they can just have Gabbert as the backup and trade him once he shows any development.

[Picksix]

I don't like Arizona picking in front of us. Like us, they need help along the interior line and I know they have taken a real liking to DeCastro.

I'd like DeCastro, but this draft is deep for guards. Not so much for DE's and OLB's. I'll take Upshaw.

[SDogo]

I'd like DeCastro, but this draft is deep for guards. Not so much for DE's and OLB's. I'll take Upshaw.

You don't like Spencer your not going to like Upshaw. Basically getting the same thing.

[TheCount]

Take the best linemen and sign another in FA. This team will go nowhere till we take the trench players seriously.

[Natedawg44]

After watching this game I want them to draft 7 corners.

[Picksix]

You don't like Spencer your not going to like Upshaw. Basically getting the same thing.

Hmmm. I thought he was a better pass rusher. Oh well. So, if we don't get DeCastro, who would you take?

[JohnsKey19]

Oh well. At least we're gonna have a fairly high pick.

[cowboysfan31]

I really like Whitney Mercilus, but I don't know if he'll be worth the 14th pick. I watched him yesterday and he plays non-stop, uses his hands well, and was taking on double teams. They said that his college coach is the same one that Ware had, and the coach thinks they are similar players.

[SDogo]

Hmmm. I thought he was a better pass rusher. Oh well. So, if we don't get DeCastro, who would you take?

I would have said Ingram and it's who I want but I dont see how this team can pass on the top CB.

[casmith07]

I don't like Arizona picking in front of us. Like us, they need help along the interior line and I know they have taken a real liking to DeCastro.

Then we need to just go for Morris Claiborne.

[SDogo]

Then we need to just go for Morris Claiborne.

Claiborne, Kirkpatrick or Dennard.

Claiborne is likely to be gone before we pick. I think Kirkpatrick is the most likely.

[TheDallasDon]

Claiborne, Kirkpatrick or Dennard.

Claiborne is likely to be gone before we pick. I think Kirkpatrick is the most likely.

I would rather have Dennard.......there's something I really don't like about Kirkpatrick

[SDogo]

I would rather have Dennard.......there's something I really don't like about Kirkpatrick


It's funny, I feel the same way about Dennard but it's not strong enough to put Kirkpatrick that much ahead of him.

[supercowboy8]

I would rather have Dennard.......there's something I really don't like about Kirkpatrick

I would rather get a OLB like Ingram and then trade back up in the 1st and get Janoris Jenkins.

[TheDallasDon]

I would rather get a OLB like Ingram and then trade back up in the 1st and get Janoris Jenkins.

I would be down for that

[supercowboy8]

I would be down for that

yeah but it may take our 2nd and 1st next year to do it. But then you can go OL in the early 3rd.

[SDogo]

I would rather get a OLB like Ingram and then trade back up in the 1st and get Janoris Jenkins.

Jenkins is likely to be there in the 2nd round for us. I know his stock has slipped a little and he has the dreaded "Red Flag" hanging over his head.

We have scene in recent years, players like him and Burfict take a dive on draft day.

[super8]

I would rather get a OLB like Ingram and then trade back up in the 1st and get Janoris Jenkins.

I been saying that for a week now

not those guys

but Ingram an I go for C Minniefield at the top of the second

[TheDallasDon]

I been saying that for a week now

not those guys

but Ingram an I go for C Minniefield at the top of the second

This........but trade down in the 1st then pick Ingram

[Dash28]

Yup 14th.

DeCastro area.......
Plz! We need him badly.

[supercowboy8]

This........but trade down in the 1st then pick Ingram

yeah I thought about that too but I think Ingram will be the top 3-4 OLB in this draft and will kill the workouts and be a top 10-15 pick. Ingram is just as good as Aldon Smith is if not better as a prospect. Ingram reminds me alot of Terrell Suggs.

[super8]

This........but trade down in the 1st then pick Ingram

either way Don

[supercowboy8]

I been saying that for a week now

not those guys

but Ingram an I go for C Minniefield at the top of the second

I like Minnifield but Jenkins is a true future island CB. The guy can flip his hips, great backpedal and can stick on anyone like glue. I don't see Minnifield as a potential shutdown CB.

[super8]

I like Minnifield but Jenkins is a true future island CB. The guy can flip his hips, great backpedal and can stick on anyone like glue. I don't see Minnifield as a potential shutdown CB.

well the guy I like is Casey Hayward

hard telling who Jerry likes

[TheDallasDon]

I like Minnifield but Jenkins is a true future island CB. The guy can flip his hips, great backpedal and can stick on anyone like glue. I don't see Minnifield as a potential shutdown CB.

I know alot of people liked Haden when he came out, well I think Jenkins was the better DB at Florida

[supercowboy8]

well the guy I like is Casey Hayward

hard telling who Jerry likes

true but I watch alot of Vandy football since I live in Nashville and Heyward has to stiff hips to play man cover all game long. He can't take over an island. He is a zone or off man cover 2 CB. e would fit great in Tampa, Tennessee, or Indy style defense.

[supercowboy8]

I know alot of people liked Haden when he came out, well I think Jenkins was the better DB at Florida

yep, Haden has turned out to be a very good player and it was Ryan who was the DC in Cleveland when they drafted him.
Jenkins was the better CB on Florida that year.
Jenkins is a top 10 CB if not top 5 if it wasn't for his off the field concerns.

[cds99]

Thats the thing you never know, if he will end up another pac man jones. A wasted good top 1st round pick

yep, Haden has turned out to be a very good player and it was Ryan who was the DC in Cleveland when they drafted him.
Jenkins was the better CB on Florida that year.
Jenkins is a top 10 CB if not top 5 if it wasn't for his off the field concerns.

[supercowboy8]

Thats the thing you never know, if he will end up another pac man jones. A wasted good top 1st round pick

yep I know, but this year he has really matured and he says getting kicked out of Florida really woke him up and it has shown this year.

[burmafrd]

We need worst of all another Pass rusher; either OLB or DE
Then CB
Then O line

[SDogo]

We need worst of all another Pass rusher; either OLB or DE
Then CB
Then O line

We really could go any of those direction in round 1.

[Bigdog]

I want DeCastro in a big way. Jenkins is very talented but is concern about his off-field issues. Now if we could get him in the 2nd along with Decastro in the first, I would be a happy man. I don't think he would last to the 14th pick of the 2nd rd though.

[Eskimo]

I would say take the BPA at:

CB
OLB
DB

I will make a special exception if DeCastro is still on the board as some say he is really the #2 player available. If that is the case and he is still available then draft him. Otherwise I say go defense. If we have several players grouped close together and none are all that much better than another one, I would drop back to try and get an extra 3rd so we can get an extra OG. It is supposed to be a great OG draft according to Wes Bunting and I wouldn't mind trying to pick 2 of them - one in second and one in the third round. We can then use the other two picks on defense - hopefully one OLB/DE and one CB.

I still really hope we can find a good vet pass rusher who will play opposite Ware in the nickel in FA. Finding one such player will make a tremendous difference in our defense. If we can find said playe, add a CB to displace TNew and Bruce Carter can play ILB we may have a pretty good defense next year.

If we can add the two OGs we may have a pretty good offense next year.

We really need another great draft. We have been put in such a bind by the horror stories that were the drafts of 2007, 2008 and 2009.

[rkell87]

can somebody tell me what is so special about ingram? i've watched him and he looks like a second rounder to me, kinda like sergio kindle a few years ago

[cowboysfan31]

can somebody tell me what is so special about ingram? i've watched him and he looks like a second rounder to me, kinda like sergio kindle a few years ago

I think alot of it comes from one big game he had during the season. I believe it was against Georgia in one of the first games of the year. He had a 68-yard fake punt that he ran in for a TD, recovered a fumble for a TD, and recovered on onside kick at the end of the game.

[dboy214]

man these ******* cardinals are right in front of us again. and they seem to always have the same needs as us. :bang2:

[BrAinPaiNt]

We really could go any of those direction in round 1.

I guess that is the good and bad thing of this off season.

We need help in so many areas is the bad thing, but there are a number of players we could take in the draft that should be able to come in an contribute quickly...we just have to get the right guys.

[DFWJC]

Then we need to just go for Morris Claiborne.
Love this guy.

[Avery]

Love this guy.

Probably unattainable except in a trade up which would cost us a 2nd rounder at least. The other option is Kirkpatrick who would work at #14.

I wouldn't rule out the Cards taking a LB.

[casmith07]

How about Dont'a Hightower?

Dude on the field with Bruce Carter, Sean Lee, and DeMarcus wouldn't be fair.

[casmith07]

Probably unattainable except in a trade up which would cost us a 2nd rounder at least. The other option is Kirkpatrick who would work at #14.

I wouldn't rule out the Cards taking a LB.

I would trade up for Morris Claiborne. People say he's the better CB between he and Peterson, actually.

Claiborne is more of a pure, prototypical CB.

[Picksix]

I would trade up for Morris Claiborne. People say he's the better CB between he and Peterson, actually.

Claiborne is more of a pure, prototypical CB.

Depends on how far up you have to trade to get him. If he's projected to go around 5-8, I think we'd have to give up to much to get him. This is a deep draft for DB's, so we should get a good one, even if we don't take one till the 3rd round. It's also deep for guards, so where as I would love to get DeCastro, there will still be plenty of others to choose from.

I'd like to see us go DE/OLB with the first pick (assuming there's a good one there to take). We absolutely have to improve our pass rush.

[rkell87]

I think alot of it comes from one big game he had during the season. I believe it was against Georgia in one of the first games of the year. He had a 68-yard fake punt that he ran in for a TD, recovered a fumble for a TD, and recovered on onside kick at the end of the game.

yeah i saw that game and a few others and outside of that one i haven't been that impressed.

[SDogo]

How about Dont'a Hightower?

Dude on the field with Bruce Carter, Sean Lee, and DeMarcus wouldn't be fair.

I'll admit, the idea perks my interest. I'm not counting it out.