Tavon Austin/WVU

[BEwareDIZZLE]

Been watching this guy for a few years. He started at RB then moved to WR. This guy is deadly in space and will make people miss. He was on display last night in the Orange Bowl. Sammy Watkins got all the press coming into the game, but Austin stole the show.

He is also an electric return man. If this guy comes out Dallas should take a hard look at him. I only want to see Dez returning the occasional punt, we need someone to who can return kicks and punts. He would fit nice in the slot and is so quick that he is a nightmare for DB's to chase around. He is a yardage monster. I would love to see him with a star on his helmet. Please Jerry, or Ciskowski, or whoever. Let's make this happen.


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[Gaede]

I've wanted a guy like this on our team for the longest time.

[BEwareDIZZLE]

Think of Desean Jackson minus the ******baggery. He has a bit of that Victor Cruz wiggle in him too.

[shnagy]

Think of Desean Jackson minus the ******baggery. He has a bit of that Victor Cruz wiggle in him too.

Reminds me more of Percy Harvin, but that's just from watching the game last night.

[BrAinPaiNt]

You need to wait a year...pretty sure he is coming back and I am happy he is coming back.:D But I would love for the cowboys to get him when he does come out because he can play so many positions even if it is just getting a few touches a game.

[ceerrece]

That's what i'm talking about! we need this kind of player, insane skills, elusive, fast, good hands, nice play from the backfield... damn, maybe he can play CB too!

[BEwareDIZZLE]

If Warmack isn't there at 18 then take this guy. I would hate to pass him up

This is one game, against OU

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[BEwareDIZZLE]

Half Sproles, half Harvin. Stud.

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[JDSTAR]

I'm sold

[BAT]

I'm sold

Me too. Miles and a future pick for a late first? One Austin for another.

[XxTDxX]

This kid is great but the Cowboys have far too many holes to draft him.. And also anyone thinking Miles Austin can fetch anything better than a 5th is highly mistaken.

[Shneek814]

I dont know this kid but fom what I watched from the games but its tough getting a high character player out of WVU having gone there during the PacMan days. When I was there, football came behind alcohol, drugs, women from the players I knew. But hey, can ya blame em?

[JDSTAR]

Me too. Miles and a future pick for a late first? One Austin for another.

Wouldn't need the extra 1st. I'd be happy if he was the 18 th pick. He would make everyone better; Romo, the Oline, Murray , Dez. There is great value in 3-6 rds for OL

[DFWJC]

Hold it.
Are you guys saying for us to actually use our 18th pick on this guy?
:eek:
You mean 47th, right? I know he prob is not there at 47, but please, PLEASE don't say you want him at 18.

I'd love to have him, but we have gaping holes elsewhere and an outstanding opportunity to address some of them with good value.

[xwalker]

You need to wait a year...pretty sure he is coming back and I am happy he is coming back.:D But I would love for the cowboys to get him when he does come out because he can play so many positions even if it is just getting a few touches a game.

Edit: Nevermind.

[cowboysooner]

That was before the college season was over

[cowboysooner]

Hold it.
Are you guys saying for us to actually use our 18th pick on this guy?
:eek:
You mean 47th, right? I know he prob is not there at 47, but please, PLEASE don't say you want him at 18.

I'd love to have him, but we have gaping holes elsewhere and an outstanding opportunity to address some of them with good value.

I think the guy might be the best player on the board at a premium position. I'd rather have an offensive tackle or defensive lineman but I think there is more risk in several of those guys. I think tavon Austin's bust factor is very very low.

[DFWJC]

I think the guy might be the best player on the board at a premium position. I'd rather have an offensive tackle or defensive lineman but I think there is more risk in several of those guys. I think tavon Austin's bust factor is very very low.
Looks like a pet cat situation.

We all have them, so that's cool.

[BrAinPaiNt]

I am Tavon's biggest homer on the board. Would LOVE to see him with a Cowboys Star on his helmet.

With that said...we need to address the trenches...offense or defense.

IF we got good players in the trenches AND Tavon...that would be the best. However the cowboys have shown that they can't seem to find decent players in the oline trenches in the draft unless it is with a first round pick.

But man alive I would love to see Tavon in a Cowboys helmet...the kid is flat out electric.

This is one of those cases where my desire and love for the player is outweighing my logic of what we need instead of what I want.

[Maxmadden]

I am Tavon's biggest homer on the board. Would LOVE to see him with a Cowboys Star on his helmet.

With that said...we need to address the trenches...offense or defense.

IF we got good players in the trenches AND Tavon...that would be the best. However the cowboys have shown that they can't seem to find decent players in the oline trenches in the draft unless it is with a first round pick.

But man alive I would love to see Tavon in a Cowboys helmet...the kid is flat out electric.

This is one of those cases where my desire and love for the player is outweighing my logic of what we need instead of what I want.

I'm betting Jerry feels the same way.

[BrAinPaiNt]

I'm betting Jerry feels the same way.

Not so sure.

Tavon is a special athlete and could break the norm for Jerry and the Cowboys scouts.

However they normally like bigger WRs and do not normally go for the quick/fast smaller jitterbug types.

[Maxmadden]

Yeah, don't think T Austin could play outside, which what we need. We already have several of the small guys on the roster. But as an OC you could really create some havoc with TA.

[BEwareDIZZLE]

I realize we have issues in the trenches. But this guy is a game changer. Kick return and punt return game would be deadly and could mean 1 or 2 more wins. Plus he has great hands and can run the ball, he is deadly in space. He can run those Wes Welker type short routes which would take some stress off the line and Romo.

I say we don't think twice and snag this guy in the first. Then we can use the rest of the draft to add to the Oline and Dline, and a safety.

[DFWJC]

I realize we have issues in the trenches. But this guy is a game changer. Kick return and punt return game would be deadly and could mean 1 or 2 more wins. Plus he has great hands and can run the ball, he is deadly in space. He can run those Wes Welker type short routes which would take some stress off the line and Romo.

I say we don't think twice and snag this guy in the first. Then we can use the rest of the draft to add to the Oline and Dline, and a safety.
I'm just so happy that you aren't drafting for us this year.
So there's a silver linigng to found in this thread.

[BEwareDIZZLE]

Well I'm just so happy this is a message board that I can express my opinions on. I can dream right? I have watched every game this guy has played in, and I've never seen anyone like him. That silver lining might turn to s**t if one of our rivals picks this guy up. Our current crop of receivers could use some help, Romo had nobody to throw to in that last game of the season when Dez and Miles were out. Then he resorted to throwing lolly pops.

There are plenty of oline and dline players to be found outside the first round, especially this year. Mid round picks are where the draft is made.

[DFWJC]

Well I'm just so happy this is a message board that I can express my opinions on. I can dream right? I have watched every game this guy has played in, and I've never seen anyone like him. That silver lining might turn to s**t if one of our rivals picks this guy up. Our current crop of receivers could use some help, Romo had nobody to throw to in that last game of the season when Dez and Miles were out. Then he resorted to throwing lolly pops.

There are plenty of oline and dline players to be found outside the first round, especially this year. Mid round picks are where the draft is made.

He may end up being the 3-4-5th best WR in this draft...maybe very possibly lower.
Why on earth, with all of our needs, would you burn thre 18th pick on him?
Of course, he could end up being the best. If he was, I STILL am not sure it'd be worth the 18th pick.

Patterson, Allen, Hopkins, Hunter, Williams, Woods, Patten, etc...a lot of possibly very good WRs this year.

But you are right; this is a message board and we're all allowed to have favorites. He's a very good player.

[IAmLegend]

Love Tavon Austin. He's dynamic, there's no doubt about that. But, this team has way more pressing needs than WR in the 1st round. OL/DL only, or a S like Vacarro if he has the best value at 18.

[Chocolate Lab]

Yep. Total stud. Would love to get him. Everyone talks about the guy from Texas but this guy can actually play.

[DFWJC]

Yep. Total stud. Would love to get him. Everyone talks about the guy from Texas but this guy can actually play.
You would like to use our 18th pick on him?

it would be awesome to have him.
I'm not at all saying Harris is better than Austin by any means, but their senior receiving stats:

Austin: 114 rec, 1289 yards, 12 TDs
Harris: 101 rec, 1123 yards, 10 TDs

I want an outside threat.

I think Harris, Beasley, Coale, and our TEs can give us underneath catches without buring our #1 draft pick.
How about Cooper or Richardson in the 1st round and someone like Terrance Williams later in the draft if we must take a WR..or even the other WV receiver Bailey in the later rounds.

[Chocolate Lab]

No, not at 18. Maybe if we traded down a bit and used our second and, say, new third on OL/DL.

But I think he's vastly better than Harris. I know you love your East Carolina boys, but he's no Austin. :)

[DFWJC]

No, not at 18. Maybe if we traded down a bit and used our second and, say, new third on OL/DL.

But I think he's vastly better than Harris. I know you love your East Carolina boys, but he's no Austin. :)
Totally agree.

The point was that you can get Wrs later. Not 6th round late...but later. Especially when it's way down the list on need.

Somebody is probably going to grab Austin fairly early (late 1st round/early 2nd?) and get a real playmaker. I hope it's not on of our rivals, but you never know. Austin on the Skins, for example, could be a real pain.

For us it would be a luxury pick, for them it would hit a need dead on.

[JDSTAR]

The naysayers of Tavon Austin should also remember that we did not need another corner at the time of drafting Mo. We had signed Carr already, as well as having Scandrick and Jenkins under contract, even though it was a contract year for Jenks. In fact our needs last year were a Safety, DT, and maybe another OG to go with the two we picked up in FA. Where did we pick those up in the draft?; Safety in the 4th. Mo was the luxury pick that JJ could not pass up. He also seemed the safest pick to succeed. Watch tape of this kid Austin play and two things jump out about him other than his incredible talent.... 1- He looks like the safest success pick in this draft and 2- He looks like the ULTIMATE luxury pick the Cowboys could make.

The argument of drafting BPA over need will only make you more discouraged about Jerry's decisions. You know he's gonna do it his way, and I follow him for it. There is massive depth at OG, DL, and S in this draft, so why would Jerry limit himself to need in the 1st round. It may not be right, but it is Jerry.... And really?? Would you really be pissed off to have this mind blowing talent on our team?

[DFWJC]

The naysayers of Tavon Austin should also remember that we did not need another corner at the time of drafting Mo. We had signed Carr already, as well as having Scandrick and Jenkins under contract, even though it was a contract year for Jenks. In fact our needs last year were a Safety, DT, and maybe another OG to go with the two we picked up in FA. Where did we pick those up in the draft?; Safety in the 4th. Mo was the luxury pick that JJ could not pass up. He also seemed the safest pick to succeed. Watch tape of this kid Austin play and two things jump out about him other than his incredible talent.... 1- He looks like the safest success pick in this draft and 2- He looks like the ULTIMATE luxury pick the Cowboys could make.

The argument of drafting BPA over need will only make you more discouraged about Jerry's decisions. You know he's gonna do it his way, and I follow him for it. There is massive depth at OG, DL, and S in this draft, so why would Jerry limit himself to need in the 1st round. It may not be right, but it is Jerry.... And really?? Would you really be pissed off to have this mind blowing talent on our team?
I understand what you're saying.
Maybe the other naysayers are looking at it differently...ie need vs non-need.

I AM looking at it as BPA and I don't have Austin in my top 18 -20 BPAs this year.

So it makes the choice very simple. Not only is he not a huge need pick, but even if he was he would not be my pick at 18.

So with that thought process, I'm sure you cna see why of course I would never use this year's 18th pick on him. I have more uncertainly of his value for us than you compared to other players that would be available.

I like him, but just not as much as a couple of you guys do. No big deal though.

[JDSTAR]

I understand what you're saying.
Maybe the other naysayers are looking at it differently...ie need vs non-need.

I AM looking at it as BPA and I don't have Austin in my top 18 -20 BPAs this year.

So it makes the choice very simple. Not only is he not a huge need pick, but even if he was he would not be my pick at 18.

I like him, but just not as much as a couple of you guys do. No big deal though.

Very well said.. All of us on this forum could go back and forth over need vs BPA, but all of us can never be in agreement over what is our biggest need or who is higher on their BPA list, which returns us to, it is and always will be just our own opinions.... Neither right nor wrong.

[Frozen700]

I'm just so happy that you aren't drafting for us this year.
So there's a silver linigng to found in this thread.

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Nah, but TA is a game changer, wouldn't mind drafting hm....

With a guy like that, so quick, it takes pressure off the O-Line

[BEwareDIZZLE]

:lmao2: :lmao:

Nah, but TA is a game changer, wouldn't mind drafting hm....

With a guy like that, so quick, it takes pressure off the O-Line

So you laugh at the thought of drafting TA in the first round, then you go ahead and say he is a game changer and would help take pressure off the line. Your ambivalence is humorous to me [insert emoticon]

[AsthmaField]

You know, as much as I think we need OL and DL help, I couldn't be too upset with Dallas if they drafted Austin. The guy is a game changer and would creat problem after problem for opposing teams. He could help in so many ways.

Just add a G in free agency and nab Austin instead of going G in round 1. I could see why it would be tempting and how that might help win more games than just getting a G in round 1.

Would I do it? Probably not. I'd likely go DT or OG, but that's just me.

[DFWJC]

Austin does seem like a great fit, as we really don't have any blazers.
he's going to be a huge matchup nightmare for someone.
My issue was more about taking him with our 1st round pick at 18.
But I sure hope he doesn't end up in our division.

[cowboysooner]

Austin does seem like a great fit, as we really don't have any blazers.
he's going to be a huge matchup nightmare for someone.
My issue was more about taking him with our 1st round pick at 18.
But I sure hope he doesn't end up in our division.

I think one test for drafting in the first round with a fairly static cap and qb hyperinflation is asking the question "how likely is this pick to become an $8-10mm per year player?"

With Austin, I'd be surprised if he does not unless injured. He is a better player than Desean Jackson without the crazy. If Austin were catching some of the 8 yard dump offs that Witten gets, he would turn a few into touchdowns.

It is not a pet cat thing for me. I just think that skill set in this offense, could do alot to make us explosive. Schematically, it is very difficult to double cover a slot receiver without screwing up the integrity of the defense. People that are worried about his size on the outside are pretty short sighted. His deep speed will keep people from doing that too much without safety help just like Desean Jackson.

[DFWJC]

He some serious wiggle to him for someone so fast.

I find his pure receiving skills and route running to be only average though.

But once the ball is in his hands, he looks to be the best in class.

[juck]

If hes there Id take him and go OL and Dl rest of draft. Get a safety in FA and more trenches.

[ghst187]

I am Tavon's biggest homer on the board. Would LOVE to see him with a Cowboys Star on his helmet.

With that said...we need to address the trenches...offense or defense.

IF we got good players in the trenches AND Tavon...that would be the best. However the cowboys have shown that they can't seem to find decent players in the oline trenches in the draft unless it is with a first round pick.

But man alive I would love to see Tavon in a Cowboys helmet...the kid is flat out electric.


totally agree, this guy is probably the most exciting player in this draft, (think Dion Jordan one of the others). Tavon actually reminds me a lot of Demarco Murray in college. Murray ran around people like they were standing still too. Tavon is more of a WR than RB however. It'd be dumb of us to use the 18 pick on him when we're so desperate for upgrades along the OL and DL. However, if somehow he was still there with our second pick, we'd be idiotic to not pick him. Also, praying to the good Lord that if we don't get him, no one else in the NFC East does either.

[Frozen700]

So you laugh at the thought of drafting TA in the first round, then you go ahead and say he is a game changer and would help take pressure off the line. Your ambivalence is humorous to me [insert emoticon]

You don't know what I'm laughing at....all you know is what a quoted on a message board.

[xwalker]

I think one test for drafting in the first round with a fairly static cap and qb hyperinflation is asking the question "how likely is this pick to become an $8-10mm per year player?"

With Austin, I'd be surprised if he does not unless injured. He is a better player than Desean Jackson without the crazy. If Austin were catching some of the 8 yard dump offs that Witten gets, he would turn a few into touchdowns.

It is not a pet cat thing for me. I just think that skill set in this offense, could do alot to make us explosive. Schematically, it is very difficult to double cover a slot receiver without screwing up the integrity of the defense. People that are worried about his size on the outside are pretty short sighted. His deep speed will keep people from doing that too much without safety help just like Desean Jackson.

That is a good consideration. The draft really is a salary management tool. This was a reason that Guards didn't get drafting high in the past; however, now...

Desean Jackson WR
3/14/2012: Signed a five-year, $47 million contract.
The deal contains $15 million guaranteed
47/5 = 9.4M average
15/5 = 3M average guaranteed average

Carl Nicks OG
3/14/2012: Signed a five-year, $47.5 million contract.
The deal contains $31 million guaranteed
47.5/5 = 9.5M
31/5 = 6.2M guaranteed average

[Beast_from_East]

I'm sold

Im sold as long as all 5 premium offensive linemen are gone. (the 3 OTs and the 2 Gs.)

Then I am ok with this pick.

[BEwareDIZZLE]

You don't know what I'm laughing at....all you know is what a quoted on a message board.

You're right. I have no idea what you are laughing at, and now I have no idea what you are talking about. Grammar is fun, especially when trying to make a point. My argument is about drafting TA with 18, or trading back in the first round (adding more picks) and selecting him. Now I doubt this will be our teams course, as there are more pressing needs. But if we stick with BPA over team needs then this guy should get a serious look.

We can use the rest of the draft to fortify the OL and DL, and perhaps grab a safety prospect. Franchising Spencer reduced our urgent need for a DE and I imagine with Sensabaugh getting cut today that we're looking to add a FA safety. It's all shaping up perfectly, call me crazy.