Warren Moon: Justin Blackmon is Dez Bryant 'with all of his brain cells'

[Risen Star]

JON MACHOTA
Special Contributor
jmachota@dallasnews.com (jmachota@dallasnews.com)



Oklahoma State star wide receiver Justin Blackmon is skipping his senior year and entering the 2012 NFL Draft. Blackmon's decision wasn't much of surprise considering he caught 38 touchdown passes over the last two seasons while totaling 3,304 receiving yards. However, what is surprising is how hall of fame quarterback Warren Moon compared Blackmon to former OSU receiver Dez Bryant during a recent radio interview.

"He’s a beast, isn’t he? He’s like Dez Bryant with all of his brain cells," Moon told KIRO-AM 710 in Seattle. "He’s a guy that has all those skills that Dez Bryant has but he’s not the knucklehead that Dez Bryant has turned out to be with Dallas. And a much better route runner than Dez Bryant is, but a very tremendous talent."

http://www.dallasnews.com/sports/dallas-cowboys/headlines/20120105-warren-moon-justin-blackmon-is-dez-bryant-with-all-of-his-brain-cells-.ece

[MarionBarberThe4th]

I've never seen everyone so sure of someone's route running before

[casmith07]

I've never seen everyone so sure of someone's route running before

Blackmon's routes are "get open."

People will be surprised how similar they are.

[lane]

blackmon makes dez look like a jag.

plain and simple.

blackmon is the closest thing to a young terrell owens i've ever seen...

freaking horse...

[Cowboys&LakersFan]

blackmon makes dez look like a jag.

plain and simple.

blackmon is the closest thing to a young terrell owens i've ever seen...

freaking horse...

:laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2:

[rantanamo]

Blackmon is smaller, slower, and has lesser hands than Dez and WAS just as much of a knucklehead on the field. Seems to be a more humble cat off the field though as he had to work his way into what he is. I also say that because he seemed to change after the UT and A&M games where he was kind of hotdogging it with weird fumbles. Could see him becoming a Steve Smith type receiver. Very tough, hard worker and will go get the ball. Just not a Dez like physical specimen but may well put up better numbers and be a star in the league before Dez realizes what the heck is going on.

[DBOY3141]

Let's wait until he has played a season or two in the NFL. Lots of players are stars in the NFL and turn out to be nothing in the NFL. Not saying he will, but to compare folks is just silly.

Dez Bryant had almost a thousand yards and 9 TD's in his 2nd year. Not even close to being a bust. He will get better, he has proved he can play in the NFL. Blackmon will get his chance this year.

[Oh_Canada]

Blackmon is smaller, slower, and has lesser hands than Dez and WAS just as much of a knucklehead on the field. Seems to be a more humble cat off the field though as he had to work his way into what he is. I also say that because he seemed to change after the UT and A&M games where he was kind of hotdogging it with weird fumbles. Could see him becoming a Steve Smith type receiver. Very tough, hard worker and will go get the ball. Just not a Dez like physical specimen but may well put up better numbers and be a star in the league before Dez realizes what the heck is going on.

How exactly is Dez not humble? The guy NEVER complains about not getting the ball, happiest player on the field when his teammate scores and seems to be well-liked by his teammates.
Dez is going to explode next year.

[revospeed]

I watched them both pretty extensively and I'd say that Blackmon is definitely the more polished WR but Dez is more explosive and is definitely faster. Blackmon is also the more proven prospect, he's had two amazing seasons (one where he was constantly doubled) while Dez only had one amazing season. I'd be happy with either one of these two.

[BraveHeartFan]

Blackmon is a darn good WR. I definately think he's got the chance, much like Dez, to be something very special in this league.

[Chocolate Lab]

Agree with those who say Blackmon isn't nearly the physical specimen that Dez is.

And while you hate to compare any WR to TO (because he isn't that gifted), he does have some of that TO-like energy and emotion like TO... I don't mean on the sidelines, but when he catches the ball. He plays pissed off like the TO of his prime used to.

Actually, although their body types aren't the same, he might remind me a little of Steve Smith.

[RS12]

Let's wait until he has played a season or two in the NFL. Lots of players are stars in the NFL and turn out to be nothing in the NFL. Not saying he will, but to compare folks is just silly.

Dez Bryant had almost a thousand yards and 9 TD's in his 2nd year. Not even close to being a bust. He will get better, he has proved he can play in the NFL. Blackmon will get his chance this year.

Ya, imagine how much better Dez could be if he bothered learning the play book.

[revospeed]

Agree with those who say Blackmon isn't nearly the physical specimen that Dez is.

And while you hate to compare any WR to TO (because he isn't that gifted), he does have some of that TO-like energy and emotion like TO... I don't mean on the sidelines, but when he catches the ball. He plays pissed off like the TO of his prime used to.

Actually, although their body types aren't the same, he might remind me a little of Steve Smith.

Blackmon being 6'1 and 215 lbs sounds more like TO than 5'9 (?) 185lbs Steve Smith.

[Phrozen Phil]

As much as Warren Moon had a fine career as a QB, I'm not sure I'd use hime as a character reference. He has his own, more serious "knucklehead" moments (domestic violence) and should rethink throwing rocks at anyone else.:rolleyes:

Both players have great talent and I'm sure that somebody's going to like throwing to each of them.

[JackWagon]

Year 3 Dez ... Show me somethin

[MarionBarberThe4th]

Ya, imagine how much better Dez could be if he bothered learning the play book.

:confused:

[Chocolate Lab]

Blackmon being 6'1 and 215 lbs sounds more like TO than 5'9 (?) 185lbs Steve Smith.

Hence why I said that their body styles aren't the same.

I wouldn't compare him to TO because I don't think he's a HOF-type talent.

[revospeed]

Hence why I said that their body styles aren't the same.

I wouldn't compare him to TO because I don't think he's a HOF-type talent.

I think you can compare him to TO. He plays a lot like TO, he's physically similar and has the same playing style as TO. You could say the same thing about Dez. I'm not saying that they're as good as TO, just that they have similarities, more so than Steve smith.

[MarionBarberThe4th]

The version of T.O. We got was a pussycat . Wouldnt take a hit to save his life

[BEwareDIZZLE]

What's worse? A kid who served an NCAA suspension for lying to NCAA officials about a meeting with Deion and is going through some growing pains managing his finances. Or a guy who beats on his wife and drives around drunk?

And Dez is the one missing brain cells?

[ringmaster]

:facepalm: blackmon makes dez look like a jag.

plain and simple.

blackmon is the closest thing to a young terrell owens i've ever seen...

freaking horse...

[unionjack8]

and mrs moon about knuckles.........................

[The Natural]

blackmon makes dez look like a jag.

plain and simple.

blackmon is the closest thing to a young terrell owens i've ever seen...

freaking horse...

I never forgot these comments from Moon, or some of the ridiculous posts I read in this thread. So I thought I'd update you all on "Dez Bryant with all of his brain cells" stats. Playing every game this year, 26 receptions, 250 yards, 1 TD. And he apparently only knows one route. Yes ladies and gentleman, this was the 7th overall pick in the draft

[rocboy22]

I never forgot these comments from Moon, or some of the ridiculous posts I read in this thread. So I thought I'd update you all on "Dez Bryant with all of his brain cells" stats. Playing every game this year, 26 receptions, 250 yards, 1 TD. And he apparently only knows one route. Yes ladies and gentleman, this was the 7th overall pick in the draft

to be fair, who is throwing him the ball?? exactly.

[The Natural]

to be fair, who is throwing him the ball?? exactly.

Andre Johnson had David Carr and Tony Banks throwing him the ball his rookie year and still put up 900 receiving yards. Larry Fitzgerald put up 800 rec yards in his rookie season catching passes from Josh McCown. You're making excuses for a top 10 pick that just isnt that good

[rocboy22]

Andre Johnson had David Carr and Tony Banks throwing him the ball his rookie year and still put up 900 receiving yards. You're making excuses for a top 10 pick that just isnt that good

I'm not making an excuse for anyone. All I am saying is I would expect Dez to have a better rookie season that Blackmon, just by looking at who is throwing them the ball. Andre Johnson and those QBs (which I would take either over Gabbert, anyways) have nothing to do with it.

[The Natural]

I'm not making an excuse for anyone. All I am saying is I would expect Dez to have a better rookie season that Blackmon, just by looking at who is throwing them the ball. Andre Johnson and those QBs (which I would take either over Gabbert, anyways) have nothing to do with it.

It has everything to do with it. Blackmon isn't the only rookie WR taken in the top 10 to have bad QB play. The difference between Blackmon and the other WRs taken that highly is they still produced. Watch him play (who am I kidding, you probably havent seen the Jaguars play all year), he has no explosion, nowhere near the athletic ability of a Dez Bryant, and you had people calling this same guy T.O. lol

[rocboy22]

It has everything to do with it. Blackmon isn't the only rookie WR taken in the top 10 to have bad QB play. The difference between Blackmon and the other WRs taken that highly is they still produced.

ok, Blackmon sucks. I dont really care - haven't watched him, and wasn't trying to get in some sort of argument over it. It was just a quick observation that having a complete scrub as your Qb does not help a rookie. jeaze, it's like I kicked your dog or something...

[The Natural]

ok, Blackmon sucks. I dont really care - haven't watched him, and wasn't trying to get in some sort of argument over it. It was just a quick observation that having a complete scrub as your Qb does not help a rookie. jeaze, it's like I kicked your dog or something...

all thats need to be said, I picked this up based on your comments but its all you really needed to say

[rocboy22]

all thats need to be said, I picked this up based on your comments but its all you really needed to say

I still stand by my comment, even though I have not watched him. One that is extremely generic and most normal people would not argue - it is tough for a rookie receiver to put up good stats with a scrub throwing them the ball.

[NickZepp]

If you want to compare Blackmon to another former OSU WR that was a first round pick it is Rashaun Woods. The only difference is that Woods pretty much wanted to go fishing instead of playing football before he took an NFL snap. He pretty much only played in the NFL to get enough money so he can live off his contract for the rest of his life. Blackmon just isn't any better talentwise than Woods and he wasn't good enough to make it in the NFL either.

[Joe Rod]

I still stand by my comment, even though I have not watched him. One that is extremely generic and most normal people would not argue - it is tough for a rookie receiver to put up good stats with a scrub throwing them the ball.

You shouldn't, he stinks (and I have watched plenty of Jags games this season).

[rocboy22]

You shouldn't, he stinks (and I have watched plenty of Jags games this season).

:banghead: please read. I never commented on the ability of Blackmon himself. I said I have never even watched the Jags play this year.

I will still stand by the comment that it is hard for a rookie receiver to put up good stats with a scrub QB throwing to him.

[CATCH17]

I actually had Kendall Wright as the best receiver in this class with Malcolm Floyd 2nd.


I never bought into the Blackmon hype. He just isn't that gifted physically.

[Joe Rod]

:banghead: please read. I never commented on the ability of Blackmon himself. I said I have never even watched the Jags play this year.

I will still stand by the comment that it is hard for a rookie receiver to put up good stats with a scrub QB throwing to him.

This is a thread about Justin Blackmon, so perhaps the reading lesson would fall to you. Everyone can spew uninformed generalizations, but that doesn't change the fact that Blaine Gabbert is not the problem with Justin Blackmon. His problem is that he can't get off of press coverage or gain separation when he does.

If Drew Brees started QB'ing the Jags tomorrow, Blackmon wouldn't all of the sudden get better because Brees would look to the two other receivers that are actually getting open (Shorts and Robinson).

Blackmon needs to work on his game this offseason or the next QB up will look the other way as well.

[rocboy22]

This is a thread about Justin Blackmon, so perhaps the reading lesson would fall to you. Everyone can spew uninformed generalizations, but that doesn't change the fact that Blaine Gabbert is not the problem with Justin Blackmon. His problem is that he can't get off of press coverage or gain separation when he does.

If Drew Brees started QB'ing the Jags tomorrow, Blackmon wouldn't all of the sudden get better because Brees would look to the two other receivers that are actually getting open (Shorts and Robinson).

Blackmon needs to work on his game this offseason or the next QB up will look the other way as well.

exactly, it was an uninformed generalization that I admit to. seriously, *** is wrong with people here just looking for an argument?? what I said does apply, however. Maybe there is more wrong with Blackmon than his QB, and I believe you guys that there is - as you have watched him and I haven't. But that does not take away my right to give a generalized statement (that everyone does believe as a fact) which does relate to the situation.

[Joe Rod]

exactly, it was an uninformed generalization that I admit to. seriously, *** is wrong with people here just looking for an argument?? what I said does apply, however. Maybe there is more wrong with Blackmon than his QB, and I believe you guys that there is - as you have watched him and I haven't. But that does not take away my right to give a generalized statement (that everyone does believe as a fact) which does relate to the situation.

There are plenty of people that enjoy arguing, but I don't really place myself in that category. I felt that you were making a statement that did not apply to the situation as it pertains to Justin Blackmon, no more, so I wanted to bring it to your attention. There is certainly no harm in knowing more about Blackmon and the Jaguars' situation than what you started with, yes? :)

Attached is an article that I looked up for you on Blackmon and his struggles. It sums it up nicely. I think if he puts in the work this off-season he can adjust, but he is simply not used to being out-muscled by defensive backs after how easy it was for him in college and it is showing up on the field.http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000092137/article/justin-blackmon-hurting-blaine-gabbert-scout-says

[rocboy22]

There are plenty of people that enjoy arguing, but I don't really place myself in that category. I felt that you were making a statement that did not apply to the situation as it pertains to Justin Blackmon, no more, so I wanted to bring it to your attention. There is certainly no harm in knowing more about Blackmon and the Jaguars' situation than what you started with, yes? :)

Attached is an article that I looked up for you on Blackmon and his struggles. It sums it up nicely. I think if he puts in the work this off-season he can adjust, but he is simply not used to being out-muscled by defensive backs after how easy it was for him in college and it is showing up on the field.http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000092137/article/justin-blackmon-hurting-blaine-gabbert-scout-says

you looked up for me, huh?? ohh, thank you so much!!!!

/sarcasm

I don't give a damn about this guy's situation.

[Joe Rod]

you looked up for me, huh?? ohh, thank you so much!!!!

/sarcasm

I don't give a damn about this guy's situation.

It is a pretty quick Google search for someone that has stated several times in this thread that he feels people are just trying to argue with him.

[rocboy22]

It is a pretty quick Google search for someone that has stated several times in this thread that he feels people are just trying to argue with him.


google search for what?? I am not getting your point. Why can I not state the fact most rookie WRs will struggle to put up numbers with a scrub QB throwing to them??

I am not claiming that to be Blackmon's only problem. Why do I need to know anything about Blackmon???

and, I see 2 times mentioning people trying to argue. not several.

[Joe Rod]

google search for what?? I am not getting your point. Why can I not state the fact most rookie WRs will struggle to put up numbers with a scrub QB throwing to them??

I am not claiming that to be Blackmon's only problem. Why do I need to know anything about Blackmon???

and, I see 2 times mentioning people trying to argue. not several.


You are entitled to state that as much as you would like, but the generalization still does not fit the situation covered in this thread.

As for your second comment, I would invite you to consider that you might in fact be in a thread that covers Justin Blackmon? If you wish to not know anything about him, this might not be a good thread for you. :confused:

[NickZepp]

The leading WR for the Jags is Cecil Shorts who has over 500 yards and 19 yards a catch. If Blackmon were good enough he should be getting those stats. Fact is Blackmon isn't a big play guy in the NFL. He was great in college and was in a good system that helped him out, and also against some badly coached teams in college. The Big 12 has had nobody that coaches defense the last 5 years.

[blackbull]

The leading WR for the Jags is Cecil Shorts who has over 500 yards and 19 yards a catch. If Blackmon were good enough he should be getting those stats. Fact is Blackmon isn't a big play guy in the NFL. He was great in college and was in a good system that helped him out, and also against some badly coached teams in college. The Big 12 has had nobody that coaches defense the last 5 years.

People blaming gabbert just got owned. I love it

[Bluestang]

I think if this forum had a mulligan button there would be quite a folks that would use it in this thread. :lmao:

[basstapp]

cecil shorts has looked pretty good with gabbert at qb, just saying.

[rocboy22]

You are entitled to state that as much as you would like, but the generalization still does not fit the situation covered in this thread.

As for your second comment, I would invite you to consider that you might in fact be in a thread that covers Justin Blackmon? If you wish to not know anything about him, this might not be a good thread for you. :confused:

if that is truly the case, that is all that needed to be said to me from the start - "while that is often true, it really doesn't fit here. Blackmon has not performed well becasue of A, B, C....etc."

Not to start saying I am wrong about Blackmon, when I have just made a general statement and not tried to claim that is the reason Blackmon is not performing at a high level.

[Joe Rod]

if that is truly the case, that is all that needed to be said to me from the start - "while that is often true, it really doesn't fit here. Blackmon has not performed well becasue of A, B, C....etc."

Not to start saying I am wrong about Blackmon, when I have just made a general statement and not tried to claim that is the reason Blackmon is not performing at a high level.

I reread and still feel content with what I posted.

[rocboy22]

I reread and still feel content with what I posted.

good for you

[Kangaroo]

As soon as he got his 2nd DWI/DUI any argument he was smart or a good kid went out the window

[justbob]

Back to the thread without the personal callouts.

[MonsterD]

I was pretty emphatic that Blackmon was being way way overhyped. College production is fine but does not always translate to NFL compliance. I thought he might be an ok possession receiver, it was noticeable to me he had pretty severe limits.

[Lodeus]

Blackmon is top ten pick. He should be doing better.

[joseephuss]

Blackmon is top ten pick. He should be doing better.

Only if you think he was deserving of being a top ten pick as the Jags did.

[CATCH17]

Ruh roh.. He finally did something.

[Joe Rod]

Ruh roh.. He finally did something.

Where was that guy earlier this season when he was killing my fantasy team? He looked like a totally different player today, fought hard. Aside from that early touchdown drop he was unbelievable.