Sigh... Tebow helps set up hospital...

[arglebargle]

Not a huge fan of the media frenzy and cult of personality around him. However, I've always felt you have to look at all aspects of a situation, not just the parts that appeal to your views.

That left handed bit aside, just ran across this bit of Tebow charity work. The man puts his money where his mouth is, and I always respect that. He's helping to set up a charity hospital in the Philipines. Thought his fans who might have missed this would appreciate seeing the story.

http://news.yahoo.com/philippine-born-nfl-star-set-hospital-102823289.html;_ylt=ApctVhgz1APA.gnt1FsJ2VH09XQA;_ ylu=X3oDMTN2dDVxNmtiBG1pdANUb3AgU3RvcnkgSGVhbHRoBH BrZwMwZjc3OTc2Yy1mODI5LTM0NTktYWRmYy1hMjUwOTI2MTIz NjEEcG9zAzUEc2VjA3RvcF9zdG9yeV9jb2tlBHZlcgNkNTUyNT Y5MC0zZGRmLTExZTEtYjU5OS0zODI3ZWY5YjllMDg-;_ylg=X3oDMTJ2MDRiMTNkBGludGwDdXMEbGFuZwNlbi11cwRw c3RhaWQDODRhNjE3MjYtNzI2MS0zZjA0LTgzNDgtNzdhMThlZm VhMTFkBHBzdGNhdANoZWFsdGgEcHQDc3RvcnlwYWdlBHRlc3QD ;_ylv=3

[Doomsday101]

Not a huge fan of the media frenzy and cult of personality around him. However, I've always felt you have to look at all aspects of a situation, not just the parts that appeal to your views.

That left handed bit aside, just ran across this bit of Tebow charity work. The man puts his money where his mouth is, and I always respect that. He's helping to set up a charity hospital in the Philipines. Thought his fans who might have missed this would appreciate seeing the story.

http://news.yahoo.com/philippine-born-nfl-star-set-hospital-102823289.html;_ylt=ApctVhgz1APA.gnt1FsJ2VH09XQA;_ ylu=X3oDMTN2dDVxNmtiBG1pdANUb3AgU3RvcnkgSGVhbHRoBH BrZwMwZjc3OTc2Yy1mODI5LTM0NTktYWRmYy1hMjUwOTI2MTIz NjEEcG9zAzUEc2VjA3RvcF9zdG9yeV9jb2tlBHZlcgNkNTUyNT Y5MC0zZGRmLTExZTEtYjU5OS0zODI3ZWY5YjllMDg-;_ylg=X3oDMTJ2MDRiMTNkBGludGwDdXMEbGFuZwNlbi11cwRw c3RhaWQDODRhNjE3MjYtNzI2MS0zZjA0LTgzNDgtNzdhMThlZm VhMTFkBHBzdGNhdANoZWFsdGgEcHQDc3RvcnlwYWdlBHRlc3QD ;_ylv=3

Thing is this is who he is. He was doing Missionary work in the Philipines before he went to Florida and before people even know who Tebow was.

[arglebargle]

Thing is this is who he is. He was doing Missionary work in the Philipines before he went to Florida and before people even know who Tebow was.

I know. I know. Despite all the media foofarah, I have to respect his actions. Tebow doesn't go work summers in an orphanage because he thinks it will look good on TV.

[DFWJC]

Thing is this is who he is. He was doing Missionary work in the Philipines before he went to Florida and before people even know who Tebow was.
The frenzy around him can be annoying, but I have no doubts about his sincerity.
Good for him and especially good for some needy young ones in the Phillippines.

[Doomsday101]

The frenzy around him can be annoying, but I have no doubts about his sincerity.
Good for him and especially good for some needy young ones in the Phillippines.

I understand that. I have doubts about him as an NFL QB and yes the media gets carried away but in the day and age of news coming out of sports of this player raping a girl, this player pulling a gun and shooting someone or himself, this guy getting busted with drugs well excuse me if I find Tebow a refreshing story. :D

[dez_for_prez]

It wouldn't surprise me to see him out of football in 5-8 years (whether or not this is his choosing) doing bigger and better things.

[vta]

Charles Barkely called it the national nightmare. I guess people are really only happy to hear about horrible people doing horrible things.

OJ trial, Rae Carruth trial, Ray Lewis involvement in a crime, Natalie Halloway death-dissapearance, Casey Anthony's ugly mug all over the news. All were given way more attention than Tebow, yet the outcry over the 24 hour coverage for these unfortunate events was not nearly as indignant.

[zrinkill]

Charles Barkely called it the national nightmare. I guess people are really only happy to hear about horrible people doing horrible things.

OJ trial, Rae Carruth trial, Ray Lewis involvement in a crime, Natalie Halloway death-dissapearance, Casey Anthony's ugly mug all over the news. All were given way more attention than Tebow, yet the outcry over the 24 hour coverage for these unfortunate events was not nearly as indignant.

Great freaking post.

[The30YardSlant]

I don't understand why some people just can't accept that he MIGHT actually be a genuinely good human being and not playing it up for the media.

[vta]

I don't understand why some people just can't accept that he MIGHT actually be a genuinely good human being and not playing it up for the media.

I don't think too many doubt he's genuine - that's probably the problem. That he in fact is and they don't want to hear it.

[Gooch]

Thing is this is who he is. He was doing Missionary work in the Philipines before he went to Florida and before people even know who Tebow was.

Tebow was actually born in the Phillipines.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Tebow

[Doomsday101]

Tebow was actually born in the Phillipines.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Tebow

He does not look Pilipino. :laugh2:

Yeah I know his parents did missionary work there.

[Wimbo]

Check out this article on him... this guy rocks. People like Tebow should be celebrated... what if just one day a week, everyone gave of themselves as much as he does...? I think the world would be a better place.

I believe in Tim Tebow


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I've come to believe in Tim Tebow (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/13200/tim-tebow), but not for what he does on a football field, which is still three parts Dr. Jekyll and two parts Mr. Hyde.


No, I've come to believe in Tim Tebow for what he does off a football field, which is represent the best parts of us, the parts I want to be and so rarely am.


Who among us is this selfless?


Every week, Tebow picks out someone who is suffering, or who is dying, or who is injured. He flies these people and their families to the Broncos game, rents them a car, puts them up in a nice hotel, buys them dinner (usually at a Dave & Buster's), gets them and their families pregame passes, visits with them just before kickoff (!), gets them 30-yard-line tickets down low, visits with them after the game (sometimes for an hour), has them walk him to his car, and sends them off with a basket of gifts.


Home or road, win or lose, hero or goat.


Remember last week, when the world was pulling its hair out in the hour after Tebow had stunned the Pittsburgh Steelers (http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/_/name/pit/pittsburgh-steelers) with an 80-yard OT touchdown pass to Demaryius Thomas (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/13216/demaryius-thomas) in the playoffs? And Twitter was exploding with 9,420 tweets about Tebow per second? When an ESPN poll was naming him the most popular athlete in America?


Tebow was spending that hour talking to 16-year-old Bailey Knaub about her 73 surgeries so far and what TV shows she likes.

Read more: http://espn.go.com/espn/story/_/id/7455943/believing-tim-tebow

[vta]

Check out this article on him... this guy rocks. People like Tebow should be celebrated... what if just one day a week, everyone gave of themselves as much as he does...? I think the world would be a better place.

I believe in Tim Tebow/QUOTE]

Yeah, a real good guy with the right perspective. I've never been a bandwagon-er, but I'm fast a fan of this man. I'd even consider getting a Tebow jersey if the money went to something good.

From the same article

[quote]"Just the opposite," Tebow says. "It's by far the best thing I do to get myself ready. Here you are, about to play a game that the world says is the most important thing in the world. Win and they praise you. Lose and they crush you. And here I have a chance to talk to the coolest, most courageous people. It puts it all into perspective. The game doesn't really matter. I mean, I'll give 100 percent of my heart to win it, but in the end, the thing I most want to do is not win championships or make a lot of money, it's to invest in people's lives, to make a difference."

[burmafrd]

it is because he is openly religious. That is not allowed in the US in this day and age without a lot of mean spirited A holes wanting to scream about it

[Doomsday101]

it is because he is openly religious. That is not allowed in the US in this day and age without a lot of mean spirited A holes wanting to scream about it

True but his conviction allows him to pay no attention to those people.

[Muhast]

Thing is this is who he is. He was doing Missionary work in the Philipines before he went to Florida and before people even know who Tebow was.


ESPN went to the Phillipines to film part of it, they did an entire segment on it at one point.

I am somewhat conflicted, part of me feels like it's wrong to go do missionary work and then have a TV crew follow you around so they can document your good deeds... But part of me thinks he was willing to allow it to further spread the word of God and get his message of faith out there.

Eitherway, as a football player like him or hate him, but as a person nobody can dislike him.

[rickwil61]

ESPN went to the Phillipines to film part of it, they did an entire segment on it at one point.

I am somewhat conflicted, part of me feels like it's wrong to go do missionary work and then have a TV crew follow you around so they can document your good deeds... But part of me thinks he was willing to allow it to further spread the word of God and get his message of faith out there.

Eitherway, as a football player like him or hate him, but as a person nobody can dislike him.

I'm sure ESPN is doing the story. I seriously doubt he is doing any kind of missionary work so that it'll get on TV.

[SkinsandTerps]

I will never understand why these famous people don't start in their own backyard.

Plenty of people need help here too.

Not to say he isn't a good guy because it is very honorable for him to bother at all.

[tyke1doe]

I will never understand why these famous people don't start in their own backyard.

Plenty of people need help here too.

Not to say he isn't a good guy because it is very honorable for him to bother at all.

That's just the thing, though. Many people here are getting help because we have many rich Americans.

But I can understand his devotion to the Phillipines because he was born there, his parents were missionaries there and both they and he know the needs of that country.

[perrykemp]

Damn, I read the ESPN article at got a little misty eyed.

I'm about non-religious as they come (non-practicing jew), however, I can't see how ANYBODY could dislike the kid.

[RoyTheHammer]

Charles Barkely called it the national nightmare. I guess people are really only happy to hear about horrible people doing horrible things.

OJ trial, Rae Carruth trial, Ray Lewis involvement in a crime, Natalie Halloway death-dissapearance, Casey Anthony's ugly mug all over the news. All were given way more attention than Tebow, yet the outcry over the 24 hour coverage for these unfortunate events was not nearly as indignant.

This. Even the title of this thread is ridiculous.

"Sighhhh.. Tebow helped more people."

Man, it sucks to hear about a guy who does everything he can to help others, huh? Stupid.

[SaltwaterServr]

I hated the coverage around him, and by proxy, disliked having to see him on TV.

Caught 30 seconds of an interview where he was asked about football. In that thirty seconds he put the veterans serving overseas ahead of what he does and mentioned another kid with a terminal disease.

NOBODY in the sports world does that. He won me over for life in 30 seconds. The more he's on TV, the more he wins, the more people will flock to him and his message of helping others.

I hope the guy wins 3 Super Bowls just so he can touch that many more lives.

[ologan]

On down the road a bit,I see the kid going into politics......hopefully.

[Don Corleone]

I knew a little about him during his college years, but this kid has won me over this season. I absolutely love hearing about the good things he does off the field in a day and age where pro athletes are usually in trouble or arguing about money.

I hope he wins a few Super Bowls and retires on his own terms. Sure, he doesn't have the skills of a Tom Brady or Drew Brees, but I would not want to bet against this guy's desire to get better.

For the poster that mentioned politics as a next stint. I could see that. It would be refreshing to have such a person in office.

I'm not a Broncos fan, but I am absolutely loving Tebow and the Broncos right now in the playoffs.

[arglebargle]

This. Even the title of this thread is ridiculous.

"Sighhhh.. Tebow helped more people."

Man, it sucks to hear about a guy who does everything he can to help others, huh? Stupid.

It has more to do with media idolatry than anything else. This kid has had an unprecedented amount of media focus on him from the get go. Not that keen on adding to it, but any football player who helps set up a hospital for kids deserves commendation.

There are thousands of NFL players who support charities, set up foundations, do personal work with those less fortunate. Enought to fill another forum, I am sure. Not all of these get quite the same attention.

It's obvious that Tebow's a genuinely good human being. He'd be doing what he's doing if he were Joe Blow, or if no one was looking. There are issues I have with him and the surrounding idolatry, but they are not things that can be discussed on this forum.

Still, my hat's off to him personally.

[Cowboys&LakersFan]

Great title. :laugh2:

Anyways once again I don't know how you can hate this kid.

[redfog]

Tim Tebow is a stand up guy. All these NFL cats mocking his religious beliefs are a joke--especially those Lions players. Look who's laughing now?

[Wimbo]

I will never understand why these famous people don't start in their own backyard.

Plenty of people need help here too.

Not to say he isn't a good guy because it is very honorable for him to bother at all.

He is doing stuff all over the USA... Plenty in his back yard.

I used to think similarly as you about serving in other countries when there was plenty to do here. Then I went to Nicaragua and saw a different kind of poverty. It was a hopeless poverty where there is no government hand outs, no opportunity for getting an education & making a better life for yourself, not even clean water to drink or bathe in.

[The30YardSlant]

it is because he is openly religious. That is not allowed in the US in this day and age without a lot of mean spirited A holes wanting to scream about it

It's because he's openly CHRISTIAN. If he were Islamic or Buddhist or Hindu his religion would either be ignored or openly praised. Publically insulting christians and whites is the last openly acceptable form of discrimination for which there is no social outcry over, primarily because the majority group in America are white christians.

I apologize if this is over the line for this forum, but it needed to be said.

[Aikbach]

Kurt Warner was a bit tebowish in his demonstrative faith, but he didn't get quite this cringeworthy media hype.

Nor did the "Minister of Defense" Reggie White, who later in life rebuked that title, calling it self serving and silly of him to promote.

[arglebargle]

It's because he's openly CHRISTIAN. If he were Islamic or Buddhist or Hindu his religion would either be ignored or openly praised. Publically insulting christians and whites is the last openly acceptable form of discrimination for which there is no social outcry over, primarily because the majority group in America are white christians.

I apologize if this is over the line for this forum, but it needed to be said.

If he was any of those things, he wouldn't be on ESPN 24/7. But he'd still be a great guy.

[soccerbud]

It's because he's openly CHRISTIAN. If he were Islamic or Buddhist or Hindu his religion would either be ignored or openly praised. Publically insulting christians and whites is the last openly acceptable form of discrimination for which there is no social outcry over, primarily because the majority group in America are white christians.

I apologize if this is over the line for this forum, but it needed to be said.

Not to bring religious debate into this forum. But I would argue otherwise. He would be scrutinized (rather than embraced) if he was a muslin for example.

See: http://www.salon.com/2012/01/12/what_if_tim_tebow_were_muslim/

[silverbear]

Not a huge fan of the media frenzy and cult of personality around him. However, I've always felt you have to look at all aspects of a situation, not just the parts that appeal to your views.

That left handed bit aside, just ran across this bit of Tebow charity work. The man puts his money where his mouth is, and I always respect that. He's helping to set up a charity hospital in the Philipines. Thought his fans who might have missed this would appreciate seeing the story.

Smart move, after the game tonight he's liable to need a hospital...

:D

[Dodger12]

Not to bring religious debate into this forum. But I would argue otherwise. He would be scrutinized (rather than embraced) if he was a muslin for example.

See: http://www.salon.com/2012/01/12/what_if_tim_tebow_were_muslim/

If an athlete refused to stand for the national anthem, as was the case in one example in the article you referenced, you're darn right he'd get ripped and scrutinized regardless of race, color or religion. Your article doesn't prove much.

[Cythim]

I think what a lot of Tebow fans do not get is that he gets flack for having all the attention while being mediocre at his position. His religion and display of it isn't a problem, that it seems more important than his ability to play quarterback is. Humanity needs more people like him, many more people, but if he wants to play in the NFL he needs to find a position he can play well.

[The30YardSlant]

Not to bring religious debate into this forum. But I would argue otherwise. He would be scrutinized (rather than embraced) if he was a muslin for example.

See: http://www.salon.com/2012/01/12/what_if_tim_tebow_were_muslim/

Few people have the nads to publically insult Islam, for many reasons. For instance, that movie "Religulous" with Bill Maher claims to rip all religion, but really it's just an anti-christianity film. Even the most hateful people tend to shy away from Islam.

And I have heard far more jeering at Tebow's religion than praise, from his NFL peers to analysts to media personalities and celebrities. There is a very vocal contingent of Americans who loathe the positive light he casts on something they detest with every fiber of their being.

[silverbear]

it is because he is openly religious. That is not allowed in the US in this day and age without a lot of mean spirited A holes wanting to scream about it

Well, I admire him for the things he does, but I do have a problem with the Tebow hype, which is almost entirely because he IS religious...

But my take is that he's not responsible for others hyping him for their own agendas... my other take is that he's really not a very good quarterback... sorry, but his play this year wasn't all that, he rode a stout defense and a fairly soft schedule into a winning record...

And having said that, I do like that he seems to have a knack for raising his game in crunch time, when the game's on the line...

[silverbear]

I apologize if this is over the line for this forum, but it needed to be said.

No, it didn't, because it's a load of crap... very little of the Tebow backlash comes from his faith, it's mostly rooted in the hyping of a mediocre talent into superstar status...

[silverbear]

Kurt Warner was a bit tebowish in his demonstrative faith, but he didn't get quite this cringeworthy media hype.

Nor did the "Minister of Defense" Reggie White, who later in life rebuked that title, calling it self serving and silly of him to promote.

Well said...

[silverbear]

Few people have the nads to publically insult Islam, for many reasons.

And why exactly should Islam be insulted??

Once you've answered that one, tell me which Tebow detractors are insulting Christianity by criticizing him... you seem to think that pointing out that he's not really a good quarterback is some kind of attack on Christianity, and of course that's ludicrous...

You seem to have an agenda here, perhaps this thread should be closed before it goes where it seems to be headed... personally, my problem with Tebow isn't with Tebow at all, it's with the over the top hype the media is giving him... I had the same problem with Michael Jordan and Tiger Woods (even before his sexual proclivities became public knowledge)...

If I ever met Tim, I'd tell him I admire him for the good he's doing, and leave it at that...

[lane]

Well, I admire him for the things he does, but I do have a problem with the Tebow hype, which is almost entirely because he IS religious...

But my take is that he's not responsible for others hyping him for their own agendas... my other take is that he's really not a very good quarterback... sorry, but his play this year wasn't all that, he rode a stout defense and a fairly soft schedule into a winning record..

the way the media disrepects their fg kicker and defense and praises his sorry *** is hilarious.

the media feasts on this **** though....to see how many people will get pissed off.

same with mike vick...had the eagles made the playoffs ...katy bar the door.

[dez_for_prez]

The reason Tebow gets so much hype is because if u look at 4-5 of his wins he had no business winning those games. For whatever reason tho they would come away with a win. Some people like to root for the underdog while others can't stand it. I'm not religious but I have no problem with what he does. The world is a pretty ****ty place and if he wants to do good why should I complain. Also, I think the media is more responsible for pushing the religion then he is. Other then thanking god he isn't the one to bring up the topic.

[VietCowboy]

The reason Tebow gets so much hype is because if u look at 4-5 of his wins he had no business winning those games. For whatever reason tho they would come away with a win. Some people like to root for the underdog while others can't stand it. I'm not religious but I have no problem with what he does. The world is a pretty ****ty place and if he wants to do good why should I complain. Also, I think the media is more responsible for pushing the religion then he is. Other then thanking god he isn't the one to bring up the topic.

Again, I believe many of those wins should be given to the defense for keeping them in the game. I do agree with many posters on here that he is a good person, that's fine. I hate Tebow simply because of the hype. You rarely hear others who also do many many great things for their community. Pat Tillman for example gave his LIFE to his country and you don't hear about that. He turned down MILLIONS of dollars to enlist and serve after 9/11, and died in Afghanistan. Sorry, but when players like this, who is an atheist by the way, gets ignored and somewhat villified for his views.

[dez_for_prez]

Again, I believe many of those wins should be given to the defense for keeping them in the game. I do agree with many posters on here that he is a good person, that's fine. I hate Tebow simply because of the hype. You rarely hear others who also do many many great things for their community. Pat Tillman for example gave his LIFE to his country and you don't hear about that. He turned down MILLIONS of dollars to enlist and serve after 9/11, and died in Afghanistan. Sorry, but when players like this, who is an atheist by the way, gets ignored and somewhat villified for his views.


All the wins are team wins. The defense played a huge part but Tebow stepped up when he had to.

[The30YardSlant]

And why exactly should Islam be insulted??

Why is any religion inherently worthy of insult?

The point is that people who hate religion in the western world typically focus only on christianity.

Tebow is both hyped and hated because he is a very atypical player and person. He is hated BECAUSE of the hype stemming from both his play and his faith, and his average play would not be so hyped if not for his faith. The two are forever linked in the minds of people, whether it be concious or not.

[vta]

http://media.npr.org/assets/img/2012/01/13/cg4f0d85a5118ed_custom.jpg

[tyke1doe]

http://media.npr.org/assets/img/2012/01/13/cg4f0d85a5118ed_custom.jpg

:laugh1: :bow: