Eminem is a Cowboy fan?

[jgboys1]

http://www.dallasnews.com/sports/dallas-cowboys/headlines/20120115-eminem-is-a-frustrated-cowboys-fan-thinks-tony-romo-can-take-team-to-super-bowl.ece


Who knew?

[Bowdown27]

I honestly didn't think he was. But we are all out there. Cowboys fans unite !!!

[DFWJC]

He sounds like more than just a casual fan, that's for sure.

[jgboys1]

I honestly didn't think he was. But we are all out there. Cowboys fans unite !!!

Yes. Like they always say. " Misery loves company".:banghead:

[Risen Star]

He's an idiot. Cowboys fan or not.

[zrinkill]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v210/zrinkill/emandjer.jpg

[jgboys1]

He's an idiot. Cowboys fan or not.

I always thought so, but now that I heard he is a Cowboy fan, I can tolerate him more.

[diehard2294]

Can he play CB...

[Aven8]

Good. Eminem and I now have stuff in commom.

I to think Romo can/will lead us to the SB. And, win we lose it ruins my week also.

[dboy214]

no wonder his music is so depressing.

[JackWagon]

his music is depressing cause he is from Detroit ... my gosh what a bad city.

[fjorge23]

Love Slim Shady! That guy is a genius at what he does. Lyrics are amazing!

[calico]

Thought he might be. He mentions the cowboys in his last two albums in a couple songs.

[StevenOtero]

"I am a Lions fan first and foremost. But growing up as a kid, the Lions were so bad for so long, that I picked up another team in the Cowboys."

[The Natural]

Jay-z as well

[jnday]

I knew he was a big fan . At age 44 , I appreciate his music .

[munkee]

Wow. I would have expected him to be a big Detroit fan. Especially this year.

[Cowboys&LakersFan]

He's the best rapper in the world so it's great that he's a fan. :D

[kristie]

I always thought so, but now that I heard he is a Cowboy fan, I can tolerate him more.

same here.

[Frozen700]

Best Rapper right now....always have said it..this makes me ike him more though

[Lodeus]

He's an idiot. Cowboys fan or not.

Yeeep.

[CanadianCowboysFan]

http://www.dallasnews.com/sports/dallas-cowboys/headlines/20120115-eminem-is-a-frustrated-cowboys-fan-thinks-tony-romo-can-take-team-to-super-bowl.ece


Who knew?

He is the most innovative and best rapper in the last 20 years so no surprise he would follow the best franchise in the NFL

[Cowboys&LakersFan]

He is the most innovative and best rapper in the last 20 years so no surprise he would follow the best franchise in the NFL

Woah woah slow your roll he's great, but he ain't 2Pac or Biggie.

[Rynie]

Woah woah slow your roll he's great, but he ain't 2Pac or Biggie.

Try he ain't Phife Dawg, Black Thought, Guru (rip), Malik B, Q-tip, or any Wu-tang member. You know...the ORIGINATORS.

[egn22]

he'd wipe his behind with Guru, Malik B, and Phife Dawg. Just because you're loyal to old school hip hop, doesn't mean you can't acknowledge when someone better comes in and raises the bar.
I'm from NY and absolutely love Wu and all of that old school stuff, but you have to give Em his credit. Lyrically he's one of the best, probably top 5 ever.

[CanadianCowboysFan]

Woah woah slow your roll he's great, but he ain't 2Pac or Biggie.

yeah he's alive, and still better, although California Love is a great song

[GOLDENCHILD1688]

so is Jay-Z my favorite rapper, he took after his pops.

came blame them:starspin

and smh at anyone saying Eminem the best over the past 20 yrs LMAO

I guess this is a football site for a reason. I'll stay on sohh or allhiphop for my hip hop news.

[sonnyboy]

http://www.dallasnews.com/sports/dallas-cowboys/headlines/20120115-eminem-is-a-frustrated-cowboys-fan-thinks-tony-romo-can-take-team-to-super-bowl.ece


Who knew?


Allen Iverson is a huge Cowboy fan who grew up in Redskin country, than obviously played most of his pro ball in eagle land.

Not all that good at keeping his Cowboy fandom on the down low either.:laugh2:

[CanadianCowboysFan]

so is Jay-Z my favorite rapper, he took after his pops.

came blame them:starspin

and smh at anyone saying Eminem the best over the past 20 yrs LMAO

I guess this is a football site for a reason. I'll stay on sohh or allhiphop for my hip hop news.

who is better in the last 20 years?

[Cowboys&LakersFan]

who is better in the last 20 years?

2Pac
Biggie
Jay-Z
Snoop Dogg
Ice Cube

[sonnyboy]

2Pac
Biggie
Jay-Z
Snoop Dogg
Ice Cube


Like those guys and I'm not saying Marshall's better, but he on that list.

[MarionBarberThe4th]

Half those guys have nursery rhymes compared to eminem

And snoop has ghost writers now. Fail.

And smh back at super hipster westcoast underground guy.

[CanadianCowboysFan]

2Pac
Biggie
Jay-Z
Snoop Dogg
Ice Cube

Nah, Eminem is better, more to the core etc

[Frozen700]

2Pac
Biggie
Jay-Z
Snoop Dogg
Ice Cube

2pac is the only guy even keeping up with EM on that list....

Only guys still doing it today who are good, and could maybe keep up with EM off talent alone...are Bone Thugs-N-Harmony

[GOLDENCHILD1688]

who is better in the last 20 years?
im not wasting my time arguing with you with a ridiculous back and forth. You don't know lyricism or hiphop evidently.

the vast majority of posters in here by their responses don't as well

one person even said bone thugs who hasn't even been relevant nor known for their lyrical prowless over all the legends thewy could've named:laugh2:

if I posted a link to this thread on a hiphop board I frequent like sohh I would be laughed off the site.

I tried to stay away from this thread but couldnt. came back for one last laugh now I'm done

[The Natural]

:laugh2: @ folks bringing up the best rappers and not mentioning Nas

This dude said Bone Thugs N Harmony. I feel like I'm in a parallel universe

[Nav22]

An absolutely amazing lyricist. One of the best ever, no doubt. And now I like him even more.

[rojan]

Eminem is the best rapper alive!!

Men lie, women lie, numbers don't!!

Jay Z is sick but he can't touch em...If you don't beleive me than go listen to renegade....

[Gemini Dolly]

I remember a few years ago he mentioned liking Tony so Im not that surprised hes a Cowboys fan. Heres the quote from a few years back.

Eminem tells Detroit’s Metro Times, “Tony Romo is one of my favorite quarterbacks. So I felt kinda conflicted doing the Jessica thing.”

[TheCount]

Old news, he's even rapped about the Cowboys a few times.

Eminem, Lebron and Jay Z are well known Cowboy fans.

I consider Eminem a very good rapper, but not the best alive. He spends too much time goofing around. Dude still has raps about Lindsey Lohan and all that nonsense, it's time to move on.

Lose Yourself is probably the best hip hop song ever written though.

[Cowboys&LakersFan]

:laugh2: @ folks bringing up the best rappers and not mentioning Nas

This dude said Bone Thugs N Harmony. I feel like I'm in a parallel universe

Nas is underrated. I love that new song he did with Common, Ghetto Dreams.

[The Quest for Six]

http://www.dallasnews.com/sports/dallas-cowboys/headlines/20120115-eminem-is-a-frustrated-cowboys-fan-thinks-tony-romo-can-take-team-to-super-bowl.ece


Who knew?


and who cares!!

[Hostile]

and who cares!!I don't, but I admit, I know nothing about him or his music. This could be a very cool thing for all I know.

[GOLDENCHILD1688]

:laugh2: @ folks bringing up the best rappers and not mentioning Nas

This dude said Bone Thugs N Harmony. I feel like I'm in a parallel universe
I'm in tears still man. Thats why I can't seriously debate dude or the other poster in this thread

I'm willing to bet they never heard I gave you power. Classic Nas story telling at its best. Watch a few people have to do a youtube search lol
EM the best rapper :lmao2:

[rojan]

I'm in tears still man. Thats why I can't seriously debate dude or the other poster in this thread

I'm willing to bet they never heard I gave you power. Classic Nas story telling at its best. Watch a few people have to do a youtube search lol
EM the best rapper :lmao2:

This guy tried to put snoop dogg and ice cube above eminem...lol...maybe its time for you to go back to sohh and contanue argueing with high school kids...you probobly think soldier boy is a better lyricist..

[jgboys1]

and who cares!!

Well it brought on 45 responses so far, so some people do.

[The30YardSlant]

Just never really got rap or the culture that went along with it. I can admit when someone has serious talent even when I don't listen to their music regularly. I am not a fan of Michael Jackson but recognize that he was one of if not the most gifted entertainer of his generation, both in terms of music and showmanship.

That being said, I think 98% of rap music is absolute crap lacking in anything resembling artistic or musical talent. The best thing I can say about the few who don't completely suck is they are good lyricists. The "good" rappers only look good by comparison IMO, including Eminem.

[TheCount]

Well it brought on 45 responses so far, so some people do.

I'm with The Quest for Six. I have such an over-inflated view of the value of my own opinions, that clearly if I am uninterested, no one else should be either. :laugh2:

[BehindEnemyLinez]

:laugh2: @ folks bringing up the best rappers and not mentioning Nas

This dude said Bone Thugs N Harmony. I feel like I'm in a parallel universe

I'm in tears still man. Thats why I can't seriously debate dude or the other poster in this thread

I'm willing to bet they never heard I gave you power. Classic Nas story telling at its best. Watch a few people have to do a youtube search lol
EM the best rapper :lmao2:
:lmao: :lmao2: I'm laughing w/ u two...especially @ the BTH mention! Em is nice don't get me wrong but the best since the 90s... I disagree! Top 10-definitely & maybe top 5. Nas, BIG, & Pac will always be better than him...no matter how many records he sells! Head to head on "Renegade" he tore Jay up but a listen thru Jigga's discography & you have to be impressed by his wittiness, wordplay, delivery & overall staying power...maybe I'd put them in a tie @ #4! To be honest I don't like alot of Em's music...mainly because of his production, though, not his rhyming.

[CowboyMcCoy]

Half those guys have nursery rhymes compared to eminem

And snoop has ghost writers now. Fail.

And smh back at super hipster westcoast underground guy.

You should check out the guy from Bama, Yelawolf, who does some stuff like eminem. He's pretty funny to watch, in and underground sort of way. That may be who you're talking about anyway.

[Frozen700]

:laugh2: @ folks bringing up the best rappers and not mentioning Nas

This dude said Bone Thugs N Harmony. I feel like I'm in a parallel universe

you obviously don't know rap...

Don't come on here pretending to act like it....

Bone Thugs are legends in the game....listen to more songs other than Crossroads and First of the Month

you mention 1 guy, Nas....and prance around like you know anything. The same guy who eventually bowed down to Jay Z. Em would run circles around him in a rap battle, lyrics, and just rapping period.

[Frozen700]

I'm in tears still man. Thats why I can't seriously debate dude or the other poster in this thread

I'm willing to bet they never heard I gave you power. Classic Nas story telling at its best. Watch a few people have to do a youtube search lol
EM the best rapper :lmao2:

:rolleyes:

Lil Wayne Sucks......no need to try and laugh it off.

[Wonderboyromo]

Best Rapper right now....always have said it..this makes me ike him more though

Kendrick Lamar says hi.

[Wonderboyromo]

That being said, I think 98% of rap music is absolute crap lacking in anything resembling artistic or musical talent. The best thing I can say about the few who don't completely suck is they are good lyricists. The "good" rappers only look good by comparison IMO, including Eminem.

you hear too much radio rap. you're just ignorant on the subject.

[Wonderboyromo]

you obviously don't know rap...

Don't come on here pretending to act like it....

Bone Thugs are legends in the game....listen to more songs other than Crossroads and First of the Month

you mention 1 guy, Nas....and prance around like you know anything. The same guy who eventually bowed down to Jay Z. Em would run circles around him in a rap battle, lyrics, and just rapping period.

no, honestly, YOU don't know rap if you talk like that about Nas. Jay and Nas are both better than Eminem and have had way better careers.

How many Nas songs do you know? Aside from having the best hip-hop album ever, he's made God's Son, The Lost Tapes, It Was Written, Stillmatic. I'm not trying to say Em isn't good, I definitely think he is. But you'd be hard-pressed to find anyone who knows hip-hop that would put him above Jay-Z or Nas.

[Wonderboyromo]

You should check out the guy from Bama, Yelawolf, who does some stuff like eminem. He's pretty funny to watch, in and underground sort of way. That may be who you're talking about anyway.

Can't understand the appeal for this guy.

[cowboysfan31]

4 pages in to a rap conversation for a Texas team an no love for legends like Trae, Z-RO, K-Rino? Some people need to stop listening to the radio and listen to real music.

[Hook'em#11]

He's an idiot. Cowboys fan or not.

I will go with this.

I always thought so, but now that I heard he is a Cowboy fan, I can tolerate him more.

I can't. He would want Montanillo as a QB..? No way.

[TheCount]

4 pages in to a rap conversation for a Texas team an no love for legends like Trae, Z-RO, K-Rino? Some people need to stop listening to the radio and listen to real music.

There are very few good lyricists from Texas, in my opinion. Which is not to say I'm not a fan of them, Bun B and Scarface are some of my favorites but there is a whole lot of terrible hip hop from Texas just like everywhere else.

[Rynie]

:laugh2: @ folks bringing up the best rappers and not mentioning Nas

This dude said Bone Thugs N Harmony. I feel like I'm in a parallel universe

Nas: Illmatic will go down as the BEST HIP-HOP album EVER (imo), however his new stuff isn't that great.

[The Natural]

no, honestly, YOU don't know rap if you talk like that about Nas. Jay and Nas are both better than Eminem and have had way better careers.

How many Nas songs do you know? Aside from having the best hip-hop album ever, he's made God's Son, The Lost Tapes, It Was Written, Stillmatic. I'm not trying to say Em isn't good, I definitely think he is. But you'd be hard-pressed to find anyone who knows hip-hop that would put him above Jay-Z or Nas.


Let him know

[jason54858]

you obviously don't know rap...

Don't come on here pretending to act like it....

Bone Thugs are legends in the game....listen to more songs other than Crossroads and First of the Month

you mention 1 guy, Nas....and prance around like you know anything. The same guy who eventually bowed down to Jay Z. Em would run circles around him in a rap battle, lyrics, and just rapping period.

LOL Nas is one of the top 5 rappers of all time. Anyone who says other wise doesn't know what the hell they are talking about. Emenium is the best lyrist in rap right now, I agree with you on that, but rap is more than rhyming words well. B.I.G was a better lyrist than Pac, but B.I.G wasn't the better rapper. What made Pac great was the subjects he choose to rap about and how he choose to deliver them in his songs.

[TheCount]

LOL Nas is one of the top 5 rappers of all time. Anyone who says other wise doesn't know what the hell they are talking about. Emenium is the best lyrist in rap right now, I agree with you on that, but rap is more than rhyming words well. B.I.G was a better lyrist than Pac, but B.I.G wasn't the better rapper. What made Pac great was the subjects he choose to rap about and how he choose to deliver them in his songs.

I think we have exactly opposite views on what the term "lyricist" means. I believe completely the opposite. 2Pac was a much better lyricist than Biggie, based on my definition of the word.

When I think of lyricist, I think of song writing, not rhyming. Lyricism is the ability to tell a story, convey emotion and be expressive and it applies to all forms of music, not just hip hop.

[dboy214]

Nah, Eminem is better, more to the core etc
:lmao2:i wouldn't be surprised if you just got into hip hop when eminem came out.

[Cowboys&LakersFan]

Everyone needs to chill out everyone has different opinions on this subject no need to get all bent out of shape if someone doesn't agree with you.

[dboy214]

Kendrick Lamar says hi.
cosign.

:lmao2:at eminem being the best rapper now or ever.

[jazzcat22]

Who's NAS.....?

RAP is not music....it is CRAP.....:lmao2:

[TheCount]

RAP is not music....it is CRAP.....:lmao2:

Did you come up with that yourself? That's incredibly creative.

[Frozen700]

no, honestly, YOU don't know rap if you talk like that about Nas. Jay and Nas are both better than Eminem and have had way better careers.

How many Nas songs do you know? Aside from having the best hip-hop album ever, he's made God's Son, The Lost Tapes, It Was Written, Stillmatic. I'm not trying to say Em isn't good, I definitely think he is. But you'd be hard-pressed to find anyone who knows hip-hop that would put him above Jay-Z or Nas.

Oh so better careers mean they are better rappers? if that is the case....Bow Wow is 1 the best Rappers ever

Listen to... Eminem 25 to life

[Frozen700]

LOL Nas is one of the top 5 rappers of all time. Anyone who says other wise doesn't know what the hell they are talking about. Emenium is the best lyrist in rap right now, I agree with you on that, but rap is more than rhyming words well. B.I.G was a better lyrist than Pac, but B.I.G wasn't the better rapper. What made Pac great was the subjects he choose to rap about and how he choose to deliver them in his songs.

I won't argue...Pac is the best overall ever

[Frozen700]

Let him know

:rolleyes:

[Frozen700]

LOL Nas is one of the top 5 rappers of all time. Anyone who says other wise doesn't know what the hell they are talking about. Emenium is the best lyrist in rap right now, I agree with you on that, but rap is more than rhyming words well. B.I.G was a better lyrist than Pac, but B.I.G wasn't the better rapper. What made Pac great was the subjects he choose to rap about and how he choose to deliver them in his songs.

Nas is good

But Em is just better...

Pretty much....Listen to Em's verse in "Drop the World"...he pretty much sums it all up there, to the industry..haters, and anybody who thinks they can challenge him

[Cowboys&LakersFan]

Who's NAS.....?

RAP is not music....it is CRAP.....:lmao2:

Cool story bro.

[Frozen700]

Cool story bro.

:laugh2:

[The Natural]

Nas is good

But Em is just better...

Pretty much....Listen to Em's verse in "Drop the World"...he pretty much sums it all up there, to the industry..haters, and anybody who thinks they can challenge him


Honestly Lauryn Hill has more songs (rapping) that I can feel more than Eminem. "Em is just better" really doesnt do it for me. I'm gonna leave it at that

[Cowboys&LakersFan]

Honestly Lauryn Hill has more songs (rapping) that I can feel more than Eminem. "Em is just better" really doesnt do it for me. I'm gonna leave it at that

Who? :laugh2:

[The Natural]

Who? :laugh2:


some of you all really exposing yourselves..That chick wrote songs at 21 that are deeper than anything Em has penned in his life. But she is a woman, and a _______ one at that, so I totally understand your post

[dboy214]

Honestly Lauryn Hill has more songs (rapping) that I can feel more than Eminem. "Em is just better" really doesnt do it for me. I'm gonna leave it at that
a lot of people can't relate to his subject matter.

for me my mom was everything in my life so i couldn't relate to his songs about killing his mom. just couldn't do it.

[dboy214]

Who? :laugh2:

http://i.imgur.com/SURh5.gif

[Cowboys&LakersFan]

a lot of people can't relate to his subject matter.

for me my mom was everything in my life so i couldn't relate to his songs about killing his mom. just couldn't do it.

All you have to do is just imagine yourself in his position with a horrible excuse for a mother and it's easy to understand why he raps the way he raps.

[The Natural]

http://i.imgur.com/SURh5.gif


Like I said these cats are truly exposing themselves

[Cowboys&LakersFan]

some of you all really exposing yourselves..That chick wrote songs at 21 that are deeper than anything Em has penned in his life. But she is a woman, and a _______ one at that, so I totally understand your post

Like I said these cats are truly exposing themselves

I just messing with you relax. This place is so negative at this time you need some kind of humor to lighten the mood.

[BlueStar3398]

I never liked him until I heard that song he did with Rhianna! Now that I find out he's a Cowboys fan, I like him a little more.

[jason54858]

I think we have exactly opposite views on what the term "lyricist" means. I believe completely the opposite. 2Pac was a much better lyricist than Biggie, based on my definition of the word.

When I think of lyricist, I think of song writing, not rhyming. Lyricism is the ability to tell a story, convey emotion and be expressive and it applies to all forms of music, not just hip hop.

First off, I think ima stop using my iPhone to post on here, let this be the last time (lol "lyricist").
Second off, to give an example Cassidy won lyricist of the year one year at the hip hop awards. Now, I don't want to hate on Cassidy, but only thing the man knows how to do is ryhmn.

[Wonderboyromo]

I won't argue...Pac is the best overall ever

False. He was great, but he's at least a little overrated. Give me Nas and Biggie over him.

[Wonderboyromo]

Honestly Lauryn Hill has more songs (rapping) that I can feel more than Eminem. "Em is just better" really doesnt do it for me. I'm gonna leave it at that

I can agree with this, I listen to her more than Em. She goes in.

[SkinsandTerps]

No love for Fabolous ?
He is one of the best.

I will side with most and agree that Em is easily top 5 ever.

[Bowdown27]

Damn this thread has reached 6 pages ?! Didn't think it would make it that far. But eminen I thought was great when I was in high school. But the last 8 years since i graduated he has had some songs but just isn't what he used to be. My favorite growing up was busta rhymes. Just loved what he did. And I'm sorry but lauryn hill??? Really ?? She was beyond racist to whites and blacks. She literally hated everybody lol

[Frozen700]

Honestly Lauryn Hill has more songs (rapping) that I can feel more than Eminem. "Em is just better" really doesnt do it for me. I'm gonna leave it at that

Bro...just stop

Nobody is saying Nas sucks, relax....but like EM said in drop the world, he would run circles around anybody who tries him.

Maybe you don't listen to a ton of EM songs....

Nas is a great artist....I just can't put him ahead of Pac...or Em

Also if he was as good as you make him out to be he would have destroyed Jay Z...although i felt he had the upper hand on Jay at the start, he let it slip, then bowed down

[Frozen700]

Like I said these cats are truly exposing themselves

Exposing?

All you have done at this point, is quote the next man slapping his butt with agreements.

You add nothing, stop trying to fit in, you know nothing about Rap.

[dboy214]

No love for Fabolous ?
He is one of the best.

I will side with most and agree that Em is easily top 5 ever.
fabolous is nice, i feel like he wasted his career making too many songs for the chicks. he always had a nice flow and crazy punchlines, just weak subject matter.

[Frozen700]

No love for Fabolous ?
He is one of the best.

I will side with most and agree that Em is easily top 5 ever.

Fab is nice...i won't lie

I mean NIIIICCCEEEE

[The Natural]

Exposing?

All you have done at this point, is quote the next man slapping his butt with agreements.

You add nothing, stop trying to fit in, you know nothing about Rap.


All you know about rap is Eminem..and we know what you two have in common, so just stop it.

Give me Pac or Nas any given day 1 & 2..Jay-z after them, hell prime Ice Cube I'd rather listen to then Eminem

You need to come on over to sohh so you can get roasted

[The Natural]

And I'm sorry but lauryn hill??? Really ?? She was beyond racist to whites and blacks. She literally hated everybody lol

We're talking about the music broham..not some gossip you read on the internet. If you wanna talk about "beyond racist" how can anyone forget Eminem's 'Black B****' tape..thats in the open for anyone to hear

[TheCount]

No love for Fabolous ?
He is one of the best.

I will side with most and agree that Em is easily top 5 ever.

Well now you've done it. Now you have to list your Top 5!

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[dboy214]

All you know about rap is Eminem..and we know what you two have in common, so just stop it.

Give me Pac or Nas any given day 1 & 2..Jay-z after them, hell prime Ice Cube I'd rather listen to then Eminem

You need to come on over to sohh so you can get roasted

We're talking about the music broham..not some gossip you read on the internet. If you wanna talk about "beyond racist" how can anyone forget Eminem's 'Black B****' tape..thats in the open for anyone to hear
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[phillycard]

he'd wipe his behind with Guru, Malik B, and Phife Dawg. Just because you're loyal to old school hip hop, doesn't mean you can't acknowledge when someone better comes in and raises the bar.
I'm from NY and absolutely love Wu and all of that old school stuff, but you have to give Em his credit. Lyrically he's one of the best, probably top 5 ever.

This egn. Biggie and Pac apologists kill me. Both MC's actually had cats out at the time that could smoke both of them. It's damn near impossible to find 3 mc's better than Em right now.

[phillycard]

2Pac
Biggie
Jay-Z
Snoop Dogg
Ice Cube

You lost me with Cube fam. Love him to death, but his best days are way behind him. Biggie has 2 albums of material. Snoop lyrically? No thanks.

[Cowboys&LakersFan]

You lost me with Cube fam. Love him to death, but his best days are way behind him. Biggie has 2 albums of material. Snoop lyrically? No thanks.

I was referring to all time not right now. Big was murdered that's why he only was able to make a few albums.

[Bowdown27]

We're talking about the music broham..not some gossip you read on the internet. If you wanna talk about "beyond racist" how can anyone forget Eminem's 'Black B****' tape..thats in the open for anyone to hear

It wasn't gossip it was in her lyrics and said it in multiple interview but your right every rapper has something in there songs.

Btw I met fabolous on a plane coming home from the cowboys game and I thought the dude was going to be tall. And he was not even close to what I expected. Alot shorter

[egn22]

My top 5 in no order:
Jay
Nas
Em
Rakim
Andre 3000

honorable mention:
Biggie (more albums and he'd crack the top 5)
Pac (flow was average but content and emotion were nuts)
Pun (more albums... like a cross between em and biggie, incredible)
Black Thought (just as lyrical as anyone in my top 5 but too underground)
Common (great artist, lyricist, in my top 10)
Mos def (top 10, he'd be in my top 5 if he cared enough to put out more material)

[Frozen700]

All you know about rap is Eminem..and we know what you two have in common, so just stop it.

Give me Pac or Nas any given day 1 & 2..Jay-z after them, hell prime Ice Cube I'd rather listen to then Eminem

You need to come on over to sohh so you can get roasted

Oh man, let me not go to Sohh.com..because the big bad bullies over there who swear they are thugs on the Net, will Roast me for saying EM is a better rapper than Nas....

Nas and Em could drop a single today, and i bet Em gets more spins...

Go to Sohh and keep acting like you know rap. I could tell all you do is **** bang with anyone who seems "cool" or agrees with you.

I'm Actually a fan of Bone Thugs, first...but i wont be afraid to say Em is the best rapper today

[Frozen700]

We're talking about the music broham..not some gossip you read on the internet. If you wanna talk about "beyond racist" how can anyone forget Eminem's 'Black B****' tape..thats in the open for anyone to hear

oh i see....

This is why you hate him.

Explains a lot

[The30YardSlant]

you hear too much radio rap. you're just ignorant on the subject.

I'm not saying rap inherently sucks, I'm saying there are a much higher percentage of artists who suck in the rap industry compared to others though modern pop country is closing in fast.

[Wonderboyromo]

My top 5 in no order:
Jay
Nas
Em
Rakim
Andre 3000

honorable mention:
Biggie (more albums and he'd crack the top 5)
Pac (flow was average but content and emotion were nuts)
Pun (more albums... like a cross between em and biggie, incredible)
Black Thought (just as lyrical as anyone in my top 5 but too underground)
Common (great artist, lyricist, in my top 10)
Mos def (top 10, he'd be in my top 5 if he cared enough to put out more material)

I'm a big fan of your list. This is mine:

Jay
Nas
Andre
Biggie
Five is tough, I hate to leave someone out, but I'll slide Black Thought in there. He's incredible really. I wish he changed up his flow more, but he still kills it every time.

I agree on Pac, he's great but I don't bump him as much as others, mostly because of his production. No denying his content though, he was a smart dude and is classic. Don't like leaving Rakim out. Common has been too weak for me lately. Love Mos, and yeah wish he was striving to do a bunch of his own, good stuff.

[Wonderboyromo]

I'm not saying rap inherently sucks, I'm saying there are a much higher percentage of artists who suck in the rap industry compared to others though modern pop country is closing in fast.

I disagree. I honestly don't listen to the radio, there are probably a few songs on it that I like at any given time. But, there are sooooo many bad rock/hardcore/whatever bands that just play the same music as the next people. Stuff I could write if I sat down with my guitar for...10 minutes.

And yes, pop-country is god-awful. The thing about that is - NONE of it is good.

[Cowboys&LakersFan]

My top 5 in no order:
Jay
Nas
Em
Rakim
Andre 3000

honorable mention:
Biggie (more albums and he'd crack the top 5)
Pac (flow was average but content and emotion were nuts)
Pun (more albums... like a cross between em and biggie, incredible)
Black Thought (just as lyrical as anyone in my top 5 but too underground)
Common (great artist, lyricist, in my top 10)
Mos def (top 10, he'd be in my top 5 if he cared enough to put out more material)

No PAC or Biggie? :laugh2:

[jason54858]

No love for Fabolous ?
He is one of the best.

I will side with most and agree that Em is easily top 5 ever.

Mad love for Loso

[TheCount]

I'm not saying rap inherently sucks, I'm saying there are a much higher percentage of artists who suck in the rap industry compared to others though modern pop country is closing in fast.

That's nonsense.

Maybe there are a higher percentage of rapper who suck that are making MONEY than other genres, but I don't even know if that's true.

[egn22]

No PAC or Biggie? :laugh2:
No, I think there's a common misconception that these guys are required to be considered the greatest ever. they weren't.

[SkinsandTerps]

Well now you've done it. Now you have to list your Top 5!

http://www.planetcalypsoforum.com/gallery/files/9/8/2/8/michael-jackson-eating-popcorn.gif

haha.

In no order but:

Nas
Pac
Eminem
Rakim
Fabolous

Just under those:

KRS-One
Q-Tip
Kool Moe Dee
Biggie
Jay-Z

[Wonderboyromo]

haha.

In no order but:

Nas
Pac
Eminem
Rakim
Fabolous

Just under those:

KRS-One
Q-Tip
Kool Moe Dee
Biggie
Jay-Z

I'm fine with you liking Fabolous over anyone, but there's just really no way he's BETTER than Jay, KRS, Biggie, etc. I mean to say, he's not one of the best of all time, and I wouldn't call that debatable.

[Cowboys&LakersFan]

No, I think there's a common misconception that these guys are required to be considered the greatest ever. they weren't.

Sorry bro, but if you have BIG and 2Pac outside the top 5 you don't know rap period.

[jason54858]

haha.

In no order but:

Nas
Pac
Eminem
Rakim
Fabolous

Just under those:

KRS-One
Q-Tip
Kool Moe Dee
Biggie
Jay-Z

Now way Eminem is better than Biggie (Jay-Z is debatable). No way Faboulous or Rakim is better than Biggie. No way Nas is better than Pac. This coming from a the biggest Nas fan you are going to find.

[SkinsandTerps]

I'm fine with you liking Fabolous over anyone, but there's just really no way he's BETTER than Jay, KRS, Biggie, etc. I mean to say, he's not one of the best of all time, and I wouldn't call that debatable.

Jay is well known as a biter. He says it is in honor, but it is just un-original. Not to mention that hard knock life song. Ugh.

Big also ripped Pac and his style. He really only has 10 good songs, Pac easily has 20. Fab has more than 10 and just never hit the market the way some others have.

KRS is one of my favorites. Yet he lost me after his last strong song IMO..."Love is gonna get ya".

[jason54858]

I guess I'll put out my top 5 rappers today (not alltime, but present day)
1. Nas
2. Styles P
4. Eminem/Jay-Z
5. Eminem/Jay-Z
5. Fabs

[SkinsandTerps]

Now way Eminem is better than Biggie (Jay-Z is debatable). No way Faboulous or Rakim is better than Biggie. No way Nas is better than Pac. This coming from a the biggest Nas fan you are going to find.

Rakim was the OG without even swearing. I never said Nas is better than Pac.

Fab twists lyrics in a similar way that Em does. They write some serious stuff that most would never even (or haven't even) think/thought of.

Em is better than Jay-Z. Em goes against the trend. No need to try to fit in, make them fit you in.

[jason54858]

Rakim was the OG without even swearing. I never said Nas is better than Pac.

Fab twists lyrics in a similar way that Em does. They write some serious stuff that most would never even (or haven't even) think/thought of.

Em is better than Jay-Z. Em goes against the trend. No need to try to fit in, make them fit you in.

My bad, I missed the "in no order" part

[egn22]

Sorry bro, but if you have BIG and 2Pac outside the top 5 you don't know rap period.

You're so off base its not even worth debating you. I could break it down and explain why youre wrong but you've clearly made a vow to hail those guys as the greatest while completely ignoring all logic. There's some sort of emotional attachment there so I'll just leave you alone on this issue.

[Fletch]

Mad love for Loso

No love for Pit Bull? :lmao2:

[Fletch]

Sorry bro, but if you have BIG and 2Pac outside the top 5 you don't know rap period.

Rap blows anyway. Who cares, right? Take any kid off the street and let him rhyme and he makes a quick mil. :rolleyes: There is no talent in rap. Hold a note and you might have something. But even then.

[The Natural]

You're so off base its not even worth debating you. I could break it down and explain why youre wrong but you've clearly made a vow to hail those guys as the greatest while completely ignoring all logic. There's some sort of emotional attachment there so I'll just leave you alone on this issue.

That's why I gave up discussing it, some of these people acting like you're not allowed to have an opinion..and that if your opinion isnt the status quo then you dont know rap music. For me personally Pac is in my top 5 and arguably best of all time, on any given day I flip flop between him and Nas..thats just my personal taste. Biggie on the other hand, not so much. Eminem? Not so much...but I like what I like and I make my lists according to that

[Fletch]

What about Whodini or Fat Boys as honorable mentions? :lmao2: Hell, the Beastie Boys are classic and I don't see anything for them. :rolleyes:

[BehindEnemyLinez]

Glad to see some Rakim mentions. As someone who's seen hip hop evolve over the past 30+years no MC gets more respect from me. When rappers were throwing out simplistic nursery style rhymes he came out spitting flames w/ complex verses & the PERFECT delivery! He changed the way MCs were judged & made lyricism a pre-requisite to be called "great"...

[Cowboys&LakersFan]

Rap blows anyway. Who cares, right? Take any kid off the street and let him rhyme and he makes a quick mil. :rolleyes: There is no talent in rap. Hold a note and you might have something. But even then.

Rap sucks nowadays, but that's because it's not rap it's really pop. Old school rap like Pac, Big, Snoop, and Cube that's real music.

[Romo 2 Austin]

He mentions the cowboys in quite a few songs.

Song Seduction last year had a memorable verse, "I’m the logo on that Dallas Cowboy helmet: a star"

[Bowdown27]

Rap sucks nowadays, but that's because it's not rap it's really pop. Old school rap like Pac, Big, Snoop, and Cube that's real music.

I agree 100% I loved hip hop when I was younger. Biggie jay-z back then lol busta rhymes dr dre snoop eminen and I did like ll cool j. Make fun but I enjoyed some of his stuff lol but my favorite besides ones listed had to be wu tang. No one could compare in my eyes

[The30YardSlant]

Maybe there are a higher percentage of rapper who suck that are making MONEY than other genres

Which was my point. I'm not talking about the talented guys who record out of their mother's basement and whose music never gets more than six blocks away, I'm talking about the guys with major record deals.

I knew a few guys in high school and college who were MUCH better than the vast majority of mainstream rappers in terms of writing and presentation, but nobody ever heard them outside of the local clubs.

[Romo 2 Austin]

Rap sucks nowadays, but that's because it's not rap it's really pop. Old school rap like Pac, Big, Snoop, and Cube that's real music.

Drake is really good. He is the exception to the rule.

[Cowboys&LakersFan]

Drake is really good. He is the exception to the rule.

Drake isn't a rapper he's an R&B singer. I'm just glad no one mentioned Lil Wayne. I was actually on another forum and this delusional Lil Wayne fan actually has on his sig that he should be mentioned with 2Pac, Biggie, and JayZ. :lmao:

[kristie]

Drake isn't a rapper he's an R&B singer. I'm just glad no one mentioned Lil Wayne. I was actually on another forum and this delusional Lil Wayne fan actually has on his sig that he should be mentioned with 2Pac, Biggie, and JayZ. :lmao:

lil wayne...:ralph:

[Cowboys&LakersFan]

lil wayne...:ralph:

Haha the dude sounds constipated when he raps. I mean he's ok compared to the rest of the terrible rappers, but comparing him to legends like 2Pac and Biggie is a joke.

[Romo 2 Austin]

Drake isn't a rapper he's an R&B singer. I'm just glad no one mentioned Lil Wayne. I was actually on another forum and this delusional Lil Wayne fan actually has on his sig that he should be mentioned with 2Pac, Biggie, and JayZ. :lmao:

Whatever he is he is amazing at it. My favorite "mainstream" artist, by far. Don't really see the Lil Wayne appeal.

[cowboyuptx]

He's an idiot. Cowboys fan or not.

Nah... Eminem is a stinking genius! His songs are funny as hell too....

And yeah, it was confirmed that he's a Cowboys fan after he mocked Tony and Jessica in his video for the song We Made You... He said something along the lines of he almost didn't want to do it, because he didn't want to bring any negativity in Romo's direction, because he's a Dallas fan and wanted Romo to have a good year...

[cowboyuptx]

Jay-z as well

Jay-Z can take his Illuminati loving *** and go root for the Giants... Jay-Z is no longer in touch with the streets, his card needs to be pulled, he's a straight up elitist punk...

[phillycard]

Drake isn't a rapper he's an R&B singer. I'm just glad no one mentioned Lil Wayne. I was actually on another forum and this delusional Lil Wayne fan actually has on his sig that he should be mentioned with 2Pac, Biggie, and JayZ. :lmao:

Drake IS a rapper. And a pretty good one at that. I'm not saying he's amongst the best all time, but he's no bum. People get the singing twisted. The due can spit.

[phillycard]

Jay-Z can take his Illuminati loving *** and go root for the Giants... Jay-Z is no longer in touch with the streets, his card needs to be pulled, he's a straight up elitist punk...

LMAO!!!