If Smith Wins SB Will He Shed Bust Label? [Archive] - Dallas Cowboys Forum

REDVOLUTION

01-16-2012, 01:37 PM

If Alex Smith leads the 49ers to the Super Bowl and wins will he shed the bust label?

Yes.
But they wont win it.

The Giants D is on another planet right now.

I hate it!

Alex Smith should get major props. Seriously.

Hoofbite

01-16-2012, 01:38 PM

Yes. As would many former first round QBs taken over the years.

Including Joe Flacco.

Has Flacco been labled a bust?

SkinsandTerps

01-16-2012, 01:44 PM

Has Flacco been labled a bust?

Pretty much. He is the guy that just can't get there. Boomer Esiason of todays NFL...but still not as good.

BraveHeartFan

01-16-2012, 01:48 PM

Yes he most certainly would.

And rightfully so.

He's played very well this year and has helped his team get into position to potentially win it all.

redfog

01-16-2012, 05:09 PM

If the 49ers drafted Rodgers, he would've sucked the first 5-6 years too. Look at the idiots that were coaching them before Harbaugh.

Cowboys&LakersFan

01-16-2012, 05:35 PM

If the 49ers drafted Rodgers, he would've sucked the first 5-6 years too. Look at the idiots that were coaching them before Harbaugh.

I highly doubt that. He may not have been the best QB in the league like he is now, but he wouldn't have sucked.

Randy White

01-16-2012, 06:04 PM

I highly doubt that. He may not have been the best QB in the league like he is now, but he wouldn't have sucked.

Yea, he would have. Smith and Rodgers have almost identical physical traits. Rodgers arm is a little bit stronger, but Smith was the better prepared QB coming out of college, which is why Rodgers' own coach ( eventually ) Mike McCarthy finally ended up recommending Smith over Rodgers to the 49ers.

What the 49ers put Smith through before Harbaugh it's almost a crime, with the exception of Norv Turner, and Rodgers' career wouldn't have been much different than Smith's.

" There but for the grace of the football gods, go I "..

DFWJC

01-16-2012, 06:05 PM

If Alex Smith leads the 49ers to the Super Bowl and wins will he shed the bust label?
Alex Smith has improved a great deal. He had a truly great game for once yesterday...but it was against the Saints D.
I'd say he is almost as good a David Garrard now....so, middle of the pack or slightly below. I think his passr rating and numbers are fairly Garrard-like anyway, minus the rushing TDs.

Smith has been exceptional this year at not turning it over.

DFWJC

01-16-2012, 06:08 PM

Pretty much. He is the guy that just can't get there. Boomer Esiason of todays NFL...but still not as good.
I think you forget Boomer in his prime in Cincy.

I don't consider Flacco a bust though....not yet.

casmith07

01-16-2012, 06:30 PM

Absolutely not, lol.

He's still a bust. On the back of that defense.

If that's the logic, then Dan Marino was the biggest bust in the history of the NFL.

Rogah

01-16-2012, 07:23 PM

If Alex Smith leads the 49ers to the Super Bowl and wins will he shed the bust label?I dunno. Nobody drafts a quarterback #1 overall and says "gee, we hope this guy starts contributing and playing well and finally cracks the top 20 in passing yards 7 years from now." His best hope is that his team wins a Super Bowl and people remember him as being more a Trent Dilfer than a Tim Couch.

Doomsday101

01-17-2012, 08:58 AM

I don't consider him a bust just a QB who did not live up to the lofty expectations in terms of his individual ability.

I can't say I'm overly impressed with his ability at QB 9ers rely more on the running game and their defense.

Frankly given the fact NO turned the ball over so much and 9ers should have blown the Saints out but they failed to put the ball in the endzone for much of the game.

big dog cowboy

01-17-2012, 09:13 AM

If Alex Smith leads the 49ers to the Super Bowl and wins will he shed the bust label?

No. He is just a bus driver.

Outlaw Heroes

01-17-2012, 09:34 AM

Doomsday101

01-17-2012, 09:48 AM

There's good reason to doubt whether he should have been labelled a bust in the first place. Poor kid has had seven OCs in his seven years in the league. I'm not sure anyone could prosper under those conditions. If he gets his ring, he'll shed the label. Which is just.

I think that is a valid point. Myself I never consider him a bust. When watching his individal play he does a decent job out there I would not call him a top QB but he goes out and does his job

ABQCOWBOY

01-17-2012, 10:33 AM

If the 49ers drafted Rodgers, he would've sucked the first 5-6 years too. Look at the idiots that were coaching them before Harbaugh.

I agree with this. A QB can't have that much change in the offense and be successful. It's amazing what a decent Coaching staff and a little consistency can do far a player. It's going to be interesting to watch and see what the 49ers do with Smith. He's an FA after this year and they are going to have to make a decision that will likely be expensive. They have a lot of guys in SF that would be good pickups for other teams. Will be interesting.

JackWagon

01-17-2012, 10:35 AM

I think Alex Smith has proven it was his coaching that was the problem. He did well with Norv Turner as his OC and has done well with year with Harbaugh as his headcoach. I think that playoff win vs the saints and how it was won at least removes the bust tag from him and vernon davis.

Sam I Am

01-17-2012, 10:40 AM

If Alex Smith leads the 49ers to the Super Bowl and wins will he shed the bust label?

I don't think the 49ers are going to get past the Giants.

They both have a defense, but the Giants have an offense too. I think this game is stacked against them.

Idgit

01-17-2012, 10:52 AM

If I had to pick, I'd take the Giants, but not by much. People are underestimating how good the SF defense really is.

As for Smith, I've long been a fan of the guy. I live in the Bay Area, and the guy really got a bad rap his first few years. When Norv was here, he showed a lot of promise for a season, and then that progress was lost. Through it all, he's been as professional as you could expect him to be.

I haven't been all that impressed with him as a passer, especially a deep passer, this season, but you can't argue with the fact that he doesn't turn the ball over and doesn't put the team in position to lose. Then you add in the two fourth-quarter scores in money-time last week. It's pretty hard to argue against the guy, and no way you can consider him a bust if he even gets his team to the Superbowl.

BraveHeartFan

01-17-2012, 11:00 AM

Absolutely not, lol.

He's still a bust. On the back of that defense.

If that's the logic, then Dan Marino was the biggest bust in the history of the NFL.

If Smith had been playing poorly and they still won then I'd agree.

However he's played pretty good football and is one of the reasons they're in the position they're in.

DFWJC

01-17-2012, 11:20 AM

If Smith had been playing poorly and they still won then I'd agree.

However he's played pretty good football and is one of the reasons they're in the position they're in.
That's about right, imo.
He has had a very solid year. Nothing outstanding, but more than acceptable.
Like I said earlier....a very Garrard-like year, but just with a way better team than DG had in recent years.

Yakuza Rich

01-17-2012, 11:30 AM

I think he will in a weird sense. I don't believe Dilfer ever did, but that's because he just wasn't putting up good numbers. Smith on the other hand has had a good season. Even if it's one season, if it was a good season and it got the 1 Lombardi...I think any team would take that.

I think what we are seeing is the brilliance of Harbaugh. What he's brought to the table is an offene that utilizes creative ways to run block and uses a balanced play calling attack. The entire league, outside of the Broncos (which is a rare situation) has gone pass happy. Meanwhile the Niners have used the running game to take advantage of the league being filled with all of these defenders in 2-point stances, using extra DB's and being so blitz happy.

YR