Dog Problem

[ajk23az]

I currently have 2 roommates as I am still in school and one of them has this dog. We aren't quite sure what kind it is but it kind of looks like a long hair dachsund. Anyways, thats not my problem.

Whenever one of us comes home or friends show up, the dog runs up to the door and when the dog sees whoever, pees in her place. EVERY TIME.

Now, I know this problem is a result of lack of training by my roommate as she never scolded the dog when it was a puppy for peeing or crapping in the house, because she "felt bad".

How can I get this dog to stop peeing every time we come home or when our friends come over.

So that is my problem, anyone have any suggestions to fix this?

[trickblue]

Dachshunds and Cocker Spaniels are notorious for that...

Do NOT speak to the dog in an excited voice when visitors (you or visitor) come over. Just a calm voice with no excitement.

Worked for my mini-dachs many years ago...

[big dog cowboy]

Our sheltie did that same thing. We literally had to ignore him for the first 10 minutes after we got home or else.

[trickblue]

PS... ask Juke... he's a professional dog trainer...

[ajk23az]

Alright, we will have to work on this for a while. About how long did it take to be fixed for your dogs?

[ajk23az]

Our sheltie did that same thing. We literally had to ignore him for the first 10 minutes after we got home or else.

That's what I do right now. We don't have a doggy door so as soon as I get home I open our patio door and she runs out and as soon as I start petting her she let's loose.

Sometimes this doesn't work as she just goes as soon as I step foot in the door.

[trickblue]

Alright, we will have to work on this for a while. About how long did it take to be fixed for your dogs?

It worked pretty quickly for me... just calm voice and don't encourage their jumping up and down. You can play later...

Juke may know a real solution as I'm an amateur...

[Juke99]

99% chances are it's submissive peeing "Hi, I'm a nice dog you're the boss"

This is NOT a house training problem.

You'll need to work on how people enter the residence (calm, no eye contact, no grabbing...etc)

Worst thing you can do is scold because you've already got a submissive dog on your hands....it pees as a way of showing deference...if it gets scolded after showing the ultimate deference, the problem is going to get a LOT worse.

You'll also want to work on approach.

Have the dog come and then sit as it reaches you. Pay the behavior (sit) with a great morsel of food. You'll start to notice the dog will "auto sit" as it arrives. Keep paying those.

What you're doing is installing a DRI (dog trainer lingo for a new behavior to replace the old). The dog now has an acceptable way to show deference...sitting.

BTW, I'm a certified professional dog trainer. To be eligible for the test I needed 300 hours of private training time. Then I had to pass a 250 question exam. My point is, I'm not a dog "whisperer" or someone who "has a way with dogs". The more important point is.....ignore what 99% of "experts" (anyone who has owned a dog ;) ) tell you. (johnvisconti.com)

[Sam I Am]

My Golden Retriever is apt to do the same thing. Especially if she has been home alone for some time. If she has, I just completely ignore her and walk straight into the backyard. Then I give her all the attention she craves.

Now, when I come home from work. There are family members in the house already she she has been out as needed. So she is less apt to do that except the second I enter the door. At that point I also ignore her for about 30 seconds and make my way to the couch. Once I've sat down on the couch, I then say hello to her. By that time, she has calmed enough that it generally isn't a problem.

She is just so overly excited that she has trouble holding it in. As the dog matures and calms, chances of it happening will subside also. The idea is to just keep the dogs excitement level down until she becomes more acclimated to you being home.

EDIT: Ahh, Juke had already answered. Listen to him. :)

[Hostile]

99% chances are it's submissive peeing "Hi, I'm a nice dog you're the boss"

This is NOT a house training problem.

You'll need to work on how people enter the residence (calm, no eye contact, no grabbing...etc)

Worst thing you can do is scold because you've already got a submissive dog on your hands....it pees as a way of showing deference...if it gets scolded after showing the ultimate deference, the problem is going to get a LOT worse.

You'll also want to work on approach.

Have the dog come and then sit as it reaches you. Pay the behavior (sit) with a great morsel of food. You'll start to notice the dog will "auto sit" as it arrives. Keep paying those.

What you're doing is installing a DRI (dog trainer lingo for a new behavior to replace the old). The dog now has an acceptable way to show deference...sitting.

BTW, I'm a certified professional dog trainer. To be eligible for the test I needed 300 hours of private training time. Then I had to pass a 250 question exam. My point is, I'm not a dog "whisperer" or someone who "has a way with dogs". The more important point is.....ignore what 99% of "experts" (anyone who has owned a dog ;) ) tell you. (johnvisconti.com)I just want to tell anyone who read Juke's post, that I use his methods with our new dog, and everything he has shared so far works and the results are worth the time spent to learn.

[MC KAos]

99% chances are it's submissive peeing "Hi, I'm a nice dog you're the boss"

This is NOT a house training problem.

You'll need to work on how people enter the residence (calm, no eye contact, no grabbing...etc)

Worst thing you can do is scold because you've already got a submissive dog on your hands....it pees as a way of showing deference...if it gets scolded after showing the ultimate deference, the problem is going to get a LOT worse.

You'll also want to work on approach.

Have the dog come and then sit as it reaches you. Pay the behavior (sit) with a great morsel of food. You'll start to notice the dog will "auto sit" as it arrives. Keep paying those.

What you're doing is installing a DRI (dog trainer lingo for a new behavior to replace the old). The dog now has an acceptable way to show deference...sitting.

BTW, I'm a certified professional dog trainer. To be eligible for the test I needed 300 hours of private training time. Then I had to pass a 250 question exam. My point is, I'm not a dog "whisperer" or someone who "has a way with dogs". The more important point is.....ignore what 99% of "experts" (anyone who has owned a dog ;) ) tell you. (johnvisconti.com)

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thats awesome advice! thanks for the insight, my cousin has a dauchsun(sp?) that has that exact problem

[Juke99]

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thats awesome advice! thanks for the insight, my cousin has a dauchsun(sp?) that has that exact problem

Feel free to email/contact me with any questions.

[Juke99]

My Golden Retriever is apt to do the same thing. Especially if she has been home alone for some time. If she has, I just completely ignore her and walk straight into the backyard. Then I give her all the attention she craves.

Now, when I come home from work. There are family members in the house already she she has been out as needed. So she is less apt to do that except the second I enter the door. At that point I also ignore her for about 30 seconds and make my way to the couch. Once I've sat down on the couch, I then say hello to her. By that time, she has calmed enough that it generally isn't a problem.

She is just so overly excited that she has trouble holding it in. As the dog matures and calms, chances of it happening will subside also. The idea is to just keep the dogs excitement level down until she becomes more acclimated to you being home.

EDIT: Ahh, Juke had already answered. Listen to him. :)



Well said. But you also want to install a behavior to replace the urination.

The thing that most owners botch up is, they look to stop a behavior but forget to teach the dog a replacement behavior.

Everything you said above is dead on...the only suggestion I would make is, teach the pooch to approach and perform a new behavior.

[Juke99]

I just want to tell anyone who read Juke's post, that I use his methods with our new dog, and everything he has shared so far works and the results are worth the time spent to learn.

Thank you sir. :)

[Doomsday101]

Feel free to email/contact me with any questions.

Good advice and good to know you are the Dog guy.

My Golden continues to dig in the back yard. Help!!!

My last Golden would dig as a puppy but she grew out of it, the current one just turned 3 and still is digging. Do they grow out of this phase if not do you have advice?

[Sam I Am]

Feel free to email/contact me with any questions.

Nightly this demon dog screams at me to go kill. How to I fix that? Shoot him?

signed,
David Berkowitz

http://0.tqn.com/d/crime/1/G/M/3/David_Berlpwitz.jpg

[Juke99]

Good advice and good to know you are the Dog guy.

My Golden continues to dig in the back yard. Help!!!

My last Golden would dig as a puppy but she grew out of it, the current one just turned 3 and still is digging. Do they grow out of this phase if not do you have advice?


Dogs dig because...that's what dogs do.

First off, I advise owners..."Give the dog a job to do or he'll become self employed"...meaning..digging..chewing...barking..etc.

So, what you want to do is redirect to a digging pit area in your yard that's ok.

Bury some GOOOOOOD stuff in an area of the yard that you're ok as a digging area. Bury them at different levels but make sure some things are very close to the surface. Bring her to that area. She'll dig.

If you see her digging elsewhere, redirect her to the digging area.

It's like mining for gold. Why pan an area that has no gold when you know of areas that do?

[Doomsday101]

Dogs dig because...that's what dogs do.

First off, I advise owners..."Give the dog a job to do or he'll become self employed"...meaning..digging..chewing...barking..etc.

So, what you want to do is redirect to a digging pit area in your yard that's ok.

Bury some GOOOOOOD stuff in an area of the yard that you're ok as a digging area. Bury them at different levels but make sure some things are very close to the surface. Bring her to that area. She'll dig.

If you see her digging elsewhere, redirect her to the digging area.

It's like mining for gold. Why pan an area that has no gold when you know of areas that do?

Makes sense.

[Juke99]

Makes sense.

Plus you have a fairly high energy dog.....so lots of enrichment games are in order...obviously fetch games are great....nose games are good too...and there are some great enrichment toys...

Digging is usually a way to burn off excess energy....as well as being a fun activity for dogs.

[Doomsday101]

Plus you have a fairly high energy dog.....so lots of enrichment games are in order...obviously fetch games are great....nose games are good too...and there are some great enrichment toys...

Digging is usually a way to burn off excess energy....as well as being a fun activity for dogs.

She has been having lots of fun, I'm expecting to see a Chinese man in my back yard any day now

[Juke99]

She has been having lots of fun, I'm expecting to see a Chinese man in my back yard any day now

:laugh2:

Redirect redirect redirect. That's the name of the game.

And exercise that brain of hers....use LOTS of Kongs rather than feeding from a bowl....If you want, check out my site...johnvisconti.com I think I have Kong "recipes" there...I still feed mine from kongs at least once a day..and I hide them for her to find...

[Yeagermeister]

She has been having lots of fun, I'm expecting to see a Chinese man in my back yard any day now

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v628/cowboyszone/thread_stuff/thats_racist.gif

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[Sam I Am]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v628/cowboyszone/thread_stuff/thats_racist.gif

:laugh1:

No kidding. It could easily be a Japanese guy or even Mongolian. What an ***! :D

[Doomsday101]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v628/cowboyszone/thread_stuff/thats_racist.gif

:laugh1:

According to Loony Tunes it is an accurate fact. :laugh2:

[Doomsday101]

No kidding. It could easily be a Japanese guy or even Mongolian. What an ***! :D

It could have been but based on the angle she took it would be in direct correlation to China

[Yeagermeister]

It could have been but based on the angle she took it would be in direct correlation to China

She might did up Kim Jong Il :laugh1:

[Doomsday101]

She might did up Kim Jong Il :laugh1:

Well then I would call her a bad girl and tell her to put him back. :laugh2:

[WV Cowboy]

:laugh2:

Redirect redirect redirect. That's the name of the game.

And exercise that brain of hers....use LOTS of Kongs rather than feeding from a bowl....If you want, check out my site...johnvisconti.com I think I have Kong "recipes" there...I still feed mine from kongs at least once a day..and I hide them for her to find...

Hey Juke, haven't talked to you in a long time. My puppy is doing great! Thanks again for your help. I strongly recommend Ian Dunbars books that you gave me to anyone with a puppy.

And also recommend making the effort to spend a great deal of time with your puppy during the first year or so, ... you won't regret any time that you spend teaching him/her what you need them to do.

My wife would tease me, .. should she be worried that I was spending so much time with the puppy, but he is now such a great dog with no bad habits, .. she is glad I did.

We have a 15 month old grandson, and Trooper is great with him. They are really good friends.

About the OP, I was going to offer up that the peeing is not a housebreaking thing too, but you already mentioned that.

And about the Kong, I put kibble in my dogs Kong, and then top it off with a little peanut butter to hold the kibble in.

Someone suggested freezing the Kong so the peanut butter would last longer for him. He liked it better the old way.

Hiding it is good idea. I will try that.

Later Juke, .. how's the song working out?

[Juke99]

Hey Juke, haven't talked to you in a long time. My puppy is doing great! Thanks again for your help. I strongly recommend Ian Dunbars books that you gave me to anyone with a puppy.

And also recommend making the effort to spend a great deal of time with your puppy during the first year or so, ... you won't regret any time that you spend teaching him/her what you need them to do.

My wife would tease me, .. should she be worried that I was spending so much time with the puppy, but he is now such a great dog with no bad habits, .. she is glad I did.

We have a 15 month old grandson, and Trooper is great with him. They are really good friends.

About the OP, I was going to offer up that the peeing is not a housebreaking thing too, but you already mentioned that.

And about the Kong, I put kibble in my dogs Kong, and then top it off with a little peanut butter to hold the kibble in.

Someone suggested freezing the Kong so the peanut butter would last longer for him. He liked it better the old way.

Hiding it is good idea. I will try that.

Later Juke, .. how's the song working out?



Good to know the pooch is doing well. :)

Better plan...stick some high value reward at the small end of the kong...the moisten the kibble and pack...top with peanut butter. :) (I freeze mine)
Hiding is great...start by "hiding it" 10 feet away so the dog knows where it is...and cue him to find it...then go to 15 feet....etc etc...

Puppies. First 16 weeks...socialize socialize socialize....particularly with kids and men...make each experience great...have the person give the pup a treat.

The window for socialization closes at around 16 weeks...after that, we have a conditioned dog that, we need to counter condition if we have problem behaviors...some can be changed...some can be changed to a degree. We can always teach "sit" "stay"....but we can't socialize after the first 16 weeks.

Big stuff.

Glad things are going well.

The music business...hit and miss.

[vta]

Nightly this demon dog screams at me to go kill. How to I fix that? Shoot him?

signed,
David Berkowitz

http://0.tqn.com/d/crime/1/G/M/3/David_Berlpwitz.jpg

:laugh2:

[Zaxor]

Dogs dig because...that's what dogs do.

First off, I advise owners..."Give the dog a job to do or he'll become self employed"...meaning..digging..chewing...barking..etc.

So, what you want to do is redirect to a digging pit area in your yard that's ok.

Bury some GOOOOOOD stuff in an area of the yard that you're ok as a digging area. Bury them at different levels but make sure some things are very close to the surface. Bring her to that area. She'll dig.

If you see her digging elsewhere, redirect her to the digging area.

It's like mining for gold. Why pan an area that has no gold when you know of areas that do?

so putting roller skates on their paws is not recommended:eek:

[WV Cowboy]

Puppies. First 16 weeks...socialize socialize socialize....particularly with kids and men...make each experience great...have the person give the pup a treat.


I like to think I did a good job with the socializing, .. because I made a very focused effort to socialize him at several parks, ball fields, around the outside of the mall, .. with kids and men.

But I think a lot of it was just his nature, .. he has always loved everybody. Always greets everyone, always happy to see them. The breeder tells me his Dad is the same way.

I tried to socialize him, but I think more than that he is just a happy little guy. I lucked out.

[Juke99]

I like to think I did a good job with the socializing, .. because I made a very focused effort to socialize him at several parks, ball fields, around the outside of the mall, .. with kids and men.

But I think a lot of it was just his nature, .. he has always loved everybody. Always greets everyone, always happy to see them. The breeder tells me his Dad is the same way.
I tried to socialize him, but I think more than that he is just a happy little guy. I lucked out.

HUGE stuff.

The biggest problems we have in the field of dog training are not the dogs...not the owners...but irresponsible breeders.

If you think about it, we could breed dogs for anything....longevity included.

[WV Cowboy]

HUGE stuff.

The biggest problems we have in the field of dog training are not the dogs...not the owners...but irresponsible breeders.


True that, .. by a long shot.

[Vtwin]

We spent more time and effort picking a breeder than we did picking the pups from that breeder.

[Sam I Am]

We spent more time and effort picking a breeder than we did picking the pups from that breeder.

Pick a shelter next time. ;) :)

[Juke99]

We spent more time and effort picking a breeder than we did picking the pups from that breeder.

Good for you. :)

Once you get a good breeder, you're pretty much home free.

[WV Cowboy]

Pick a shelter next time. ;) :)

Not everyone can get a dog from the shelter.

My wife is allergic to dogs that shed, so we have to be 100% certain what breed of dog we are bringing into the house. It has be to hypo-allergetic.

I would love to rescue a dog, but it's just not going to happen.

[Vtwin]

:) Pick a shelter next time. ;) :)

I've always loved GSD's and not having a ton of experience and getting two at one time and GSD's being high energy working dogs and GSD's being popular with backyard breeders and GSD's temperment being subject in no small part to it's breeding and GSD's being able to fairly easily injure/kill kids/people/other pets we thought it best to start with as many known variables as possible. Seeing the breeders operation and meeting the parents and other earlier siblings let us know we were starting with something that we could handle if we did our part. ;)

Poorly bred and poorly socialized GSD's can be a nightmare. One that we could not afford to risk at that time. We most certainly will look at some rescues if/when the time comes for a new pet.

Appreciate your concern.:)

[Juke99]

as a follow up, this is the hand out I give to my customers who have dogs with digging "problems"

Digging Problems? Your dog doesn’t think so.

Dogs dig to bury bones, and later to dig them up again. Dogs dig cooling hollows in the summer, and warming pits in the winter. Dogs dig after eavesdropping on private ultrasonic conversations of subterranean critters Dogs dig out of boredom, and dogs dig to escape. But by and large, most dogs dig for the sheer fun of it.

Dogs Don’t See Your Problem

Dogs consider digging to be a perfectly normal and natural doggy activity. In fact, terriers consider digging to be their very reason for being. It would therefore be fruitless to try to stop your dog from digging altogether. Prevention and treatment of misplaced digging focus on management andeducation: preventing your dog from digging in inappropriate areas and redirecting your dog'snatural digging-desire to a suitable area.

Prevent Digging in Your Absence

When you are away from home, keep your dog indoors. When you are at home, try your best to accompany your dog outdoors to supervise and teach garden rules.

Housesoiling, destructive chewing, and hyperactivity are the most common reasons why dogs are relegated to unsupervised, solitary confinement in the yard, where they predictably learn to bark, dig, and escape, and become over-excited whenever let indoors. Consequently, it
is important to housetrain and chewtoy-train your dog.


Teach your dog to settle down calmly and quietly indoors, and to sit when greeting visitors. Then your dog may remain safely indoors whether
you are home or not. Your air-conditioned and centrally-heated house is the safest and most comfortable place for your dog to spend the day. When you are at home, go outside and enjoy your garden with your dog.

Some dogs dig to escape because they cannot bear the boredom and anxiety of solitary confinement in the yard. Escaping is exceedingly dangerous for your dog's health. So if you
decide to leave your dog in the yard, make the yard more interesting and be sure to fix the fence.

Also make sure your dog has a cool resting place in the summer and warmth in the winter.

Teach your dog to dissipate digging energy with other activities. Make sure your dog is well exercised (psychologically as well as physically) and entertained, and thus has no need to dig to escape from the yard. Teach recreational diggers to become recreational chewers.
If your dog is busying himself with a chew toy, he has little time to dig. Consequently, chew toys stuffed with breakfast kibble are the best objects to leave indoors, or to bury in your dog’s digging pit.

You must teach your dog how to entertain himself outdoors. This means your dog needs Chew toys outside, too.

Redirect Digging to a Digging Pit

Since you consider your dog’s choice of digging locations to be inappropriate, choose a location to your liking and teach your dog to dig there. Build your dog a digging pit (much like a child’s sandbox) in a suitable corner of the yard. Bury a cow's femur (the whole thing) in your
dog's digging pit. Your little doggie will be utterly delighted when she finds a huge meaty bone. Now, this single simple procedure may not totally prevent holes in other areas of the garden, but your dog will now be much more inclined to dig in her digging pit. I mean, in 1849 everyone started rushing westwards to California.

They didn't rush to New Jersey. And why did they rush to California? Because one person discovered a nugget of gold at Sutter's Mill. They didn't find gold in New Jersey, and so they didn’t rush to New Jersey. And so it is with dogs. After just one remarkable find, your dog will prefer to excavate in that California corner—her digging pit, where she once found something very worth finding.

Every morning, fill several chew toys with your dog’s breakfast kibble and bury them in her digging pit. Your dog will discover that the digging pit is a virtual treasure trove where she can find toys for sustenance and entertainment.

Garden Rules

Once the dog's digging activities have been redirected to a suitable location in your yard, you might consider protecting other parts of the garden. Lay down chicken wire or chain-link fencing over the lawn and flower beds, add plenty of topsoil, and reseed.

Use boundary fences to partition the yard into doggy and non-doggy zones. The fences are not meant to be dog proof; rather, they are used as training aids to clearly demarcate lawn and garden boundaries to help you teach the rules. Always try to accompany your dog when he goes outside, especially during puppyhood or the first few months an older dog is at home.

Remember, an owner in the yard is worth two in front of the television! It is not fair to keep garden rules a secret from your dog and then get angry with the dog for breaking rules he didn’t even know existed. Encourage and praise your dog for walking on paths and for lying down in
dog zones.

Tie a number of stuffed chew toys to ground stakes or hang them from tree branches in dog zones to encourage your dog to want to spend time in those areas. Discourage your dog from entering non-doggy zones.