View Full Version : SOPA protest moving along
SaltwaterServr
01-17-2012, 11:37 PM
Google has censored it's home main page, wikipedia did the same, with links to contacting your representatives.
I'm liking it.
Wow, didn't realize Wikipedia.com took itself completely off the air.
ajk23az
01-18-2012, 12:05 AM
The legislation is bullcrap.
I have the google chrome extension that tells me if i navigate a website that supports SOPA.
I wish google did the same as wikipedia. That would make everyone freak out.
SaltwaterServr
01-18-2012, 12:12 AM
The legislation is bullcrap.
I have the google chrome extension that tells me if i navigate a website that supports SOPA.
I wish google did the same as wikipedia. That would make everyone freak out.
Take Facebook off the internet tomorrow for 12 hours and the howls of discontent will be heard through the vacuum of space all the way to the ISS.
ajk23az
01-18-2012, 01:51 AM
Not from me :) From others, definitely.
SaltwaterServr
01-18-2012, 02:39 AM
Not from me :) From others, definitely.
You.
Me.
Super models.
That's it.
Idgit
01-18-2012, 02:53 AM
I registered my dissent with each of the Reps in my area. The wikipedia page is useful for that if anyone's interested.
SaltwaterServr
01-18-2012, 03:43 AM
I registered my dissent with each of the Reps in my area. The wikipedia page is useful for that if anyone's interested.
Logged mine there as well as the Google site.
Occupy the Interwebz?
Sam I Am
01-18-2012, 07:10 AM
Tell these guys (http://www.opencongress.org/wiki/Protect_IP_Act_Senate_whip_count) you are going to vote them out of office.
trickblue
01-18-2012, 09:52 AM
I registered my dissent with each of the Reps in my area. The wikipedia page is useful for that if anyone's interested.
Ditto... it's the first time in history Rep. Lloyd Doggett has been on the correct side of an issue...
I'm ashamed of Sen. Cornyn (pro) and Sen. Hutchison (undecided)...
Heisenberg
01-18-2012, 09:55 AM
Good for them. Luckily, this bill was losing steam even before that.
Sam I Am
01-18-2012, 10:10 AM
Good for them. Luckily, this bill was losing steam even before that.
SOPA is on hold, but PIPA (senate version of the bill) is still going up for a vote on Jan. 24th. I called my senator (Richard Blumenthal) and OpenCongress.org notes that he supports it, but he (the people at his office) told me that he has decided not support (ie not vote for it) in its current form come Jan. 24th.
I will be watching his actions very closely.
Hoofbite
01-18-2012, 10:30 AM
No word from the "intellectual property" clan?
tupperware
01-18-2012, 11:02 AM
No word from the "intellectual property" clan?
My intellectual property didn't come with a marinara!
:laugh2:
AmarilloCowboyFan
01-18-2012, 11:08 AM
Ditto... it's the first time in history Rep. Lloyd Doggett has been on the correct side of an issue...
I'm ashamed of Sen. Cornyn (pro) and Sen. Hutchison (undecided)...
While Kay Bailey may say undecided it sounds more like she is for it from the canned response she sends out.
Sam I Am
01-18-2012, 11:20 AM
While Kay Bailey may say undecided it sounds more like she is for it from the canned response she sends out.
She is undecided because she wants to vote for it without the backlash. (gotta keep the money flowing into her bank account) Everyone should kick the ever living **** out of her if she votes for it on Jan. 24th.
Hoofbite
01-18-2012, 11:20 AM
My intellectual property didn't come with a marinara!
:laugh2:
That's unfortunate.
tupperware
01-18-2012, 12:20 PM
That's unfortunate.
:wink2:
Risen Star
01-18-2012, 12:21 PM
Someone please explain to me what this new legislation would do?
AmarilloCowboyFan
01-18-2012, 12:22 PM
She is undecided because she wants to vote for it without the backlash. (gotta keep the money flowing into her bank account) Everyone should kick the ever living **** out of her if she votes for it on Jan. 24th.
Ya, I believe I heard somewhere that she wasn't running again so she doesn't give a **** what you say to her.
Yeagermeister
01-18-2012, 12:22 PM
That's unfortunate.
He should should call the store manager and complain
MonsterD
01-18-2012, 12:22 PM
Someone please explain to me what this new legislation would do?
You can get a few larger points in this interview with Reddit's founder.
http://www.g4tv.com/videos/56930/internet-goes-on-strike-against-sopa-aots-loops-in-reddits-ohanian/
Faerluna
01-18-2012, 12:31 PM
Here's a great, easy to understand video about what SOPA/PIPA does and why it sucks.
http://vimeo.com/31100268
Eric_Boyer
01-18-2012, 12:56 PM
it will never pass with Rand Paul as a senator as he promised to filibuster. :bow:
Trendnet
01-18-2012, 01:11 PM
Someone please explain to me what this new legislation would do?
Cowboyszone.com would be in violation of SOPA if it were to pass, considering the amount of copyrighted pictures here.
They way it's written, the allegation of copyright infrigment could result in the Cowboyszone.com domain name being taken away, search engines would no longer find it, and blacklisted on ISP's.
Cowboyszone.com would be in violation of SOPA if it were to pass, considering the amount of copyrighted pictures here.
They way it's written, the allegation of copyright infrigment could result in the Cowboyszone.com domain name being taken away, search engines would no longer find it, and blacklisted on ISP's.
Sorry for being lazy, and feel free to tell me to do my own research, but who are 'they' doing this at the behest of? Is it specific artists or movie/record industry companies?
Faerluna
01-18-2012, 01:25 PM
Sorry for being lazy, and feel free to tell me to do my own research, but who are 'they' doing this at the behest of? Is it specific artists or movie/record industry companies?
The entertainment industry in general.
See my link above for details.
The entertainment industry in general.
See my link above for details.
Thanks. I don't watch vids at work, I'll see it when I get home,
Yeagermeister
01-18-2012, 01:35 PM
Cowboyszone.com would be in violation of SOPA if it were to pass, considering the amount of copyrighted pictures here.
They way it's written, the allegation of copyright infrigment could result in the Cowboyszone.com domain name being taken away, search engines would no longer find it, and blacklisted on ISP's.
This site could be named Tom and someone could say they have the right to it because that is their name.......stupid stupid stupid
Sam I Am
01-18-2012, 02:14 PM
Sorry for being lazy, and feel free to tell me to do my own research, but who are 'they' doing this at the behest of? Is it specific artists or movie/record industry companies?
Harvard Business Review Article about it. (http://blogs.hbr.org/cs/2012/01/the_real_sopa_battle_innovators.html) This article isn't about what SOPA/PIPA will do, but why it even exists in the first place.
MonsterD
01-18-2012, 03:14 PM
Harvard Business Review Article about it. (http://blogs.hbr.org/cs/2012/01/the_real_sopa_battle_innovators.html) This article isn't about what SOPA/PIPA will do, but why it even exists in the first place.
LOL look at that comment below it.
Even Ford knows to jump off the sinking ship and do some revisionist damage control.
http://mediacdn.disqus.com/uploads/users/3/7749/avatar32.jpg?1326918311 (http://disqus.com/scottmonty/) scottmonty (http://scottmonty.com/) 16 minutes ago (http://blogs.hbr.org/cs/2012/01/the_real_sopa_battle_innovators.html#comment-414665937)
Please take another look at the source of the companies you claim are supporting SOPA/PIPA. It's actually from a letter signed in September (three months prior to the legislation being crafted) that expresses a need for rogue site legislation. There is nowhere in the public record that demonstrates we support the specific legislation that has been presented.
Ford has expressed the need to protect our intellectual property, as there are hordes of counterfeiters and pirates out there who make Ford parts and goods that are not officially licensed. This takes business away from our licensees to whom we have a fiduciary duty to protect.
While we want to ensure that our IP is protected, we do not encourage legislation that fundamentally changes the Internet. We have expressed interested in working together with Congress to find a balance that keeps the Internet open yet protects intellectual property.
We hope you'll clarify this in the original article, as it currently states that Ford expressly supports SOPA, which we do not.
Scott Monty
Global Digital Communications
Ford Motor Company
Jammer
01-18-2012, 03:55 PM
Is there a site to list Representatives’ stance on this?
Sadly, and not surprising, were the people who support this horrible bill. My two Senators in SC will vote exactly as I expected. Graham, a RINO, will vote for more government control of our lives (while calling himself a “conservative”), and Demint (a tea party favorite) will vote against it. Anybody with an (R) next to their name and calling themselves "conservative" should be ashamed of themselves if they support this bill. It's censorship and it increases the power of the government to control the flow of information. Governments love to control the flow of information. It makes them more powerful.
There are a lot of Democrats and Republicans on board with this. This is a bad example of nonpartisanship.
Sam I Am
01-18-2012, 03:56 PM
Is there a site to list Representatives’ stance on this?
Sadly, and not surprising, were the people who support this horrible bill. My two Senators in SC will vote exactly as I expected. Graham, a RINO, will vote for more government control of our lives (while calling himself a “conservative”), and Demint (a tea party favorite) will vote against it. Anybody with an (R) next to their name and calling themselves "conservative" should be ashamed of themselves if they support this bill. It's censorship and it increases the power of the government to control the flow of information. Governments love to control the flow of information. It makes them more powerful.
There are a lot of Democrats and Republicans on board with this. This is a bad example of nonpartisanship.
OpenCongress.org (http://www.opencongress.org/pipa)
trickblue
01-18-2012, 04:00 PM
Is there a site to list Representatives’ stance on this?
Sadly, and not surprising, were the people who support this horrible bill. My two Senators in SC will vote exactly as I expected. Graham, a RINO, will vote for more government control of our lives (while calling himself a “conservative”), and Demint (a tea party favorite) will vote against it. Anybody with an (R) next to their name and calling themselves "conservative" should be ashamed of themselves if they support this bill. It's censorship and it increases the power of the government to control the flow of information. Governments love to control the flow of information. It makes them more powerful.
There are a lot of Democrats and Republicans on board with this. This is a bad example of nonpartisanship.
Here's their picture, stance and party affiliation for your hating pleasure...
http://projects.propublica.org/sopa/
This issue is surprisingly non-partisan on both stances...
iceberg
01-18-2012, 04:03 PM
Sorry for being lazy, and feel free to tell me to do my own research, but who are 'they' doing this at the behest of? Is it specific artists or movie/record industry companies?
basically, the movie industry and RIAA are behind this.
i got into a knock down on facebook this afternoon with a good friend of mine who is a singer who is mad at those against the bill because he hates piracy.
i tried to tell him in every way i could why this wouldn't stop piracy at all yet it would give the government control over what sites can operate, who can be "googled" and force filters they feel we need.
all i really got back was they were mad at thieves.
Eric_Boyer
01-18-2012, 04:22 PM
Here's their picture, stance and party affiliation for your hating pleasure...
http://projects.propublica.org/sopa/
This issue is surprisingly non-partisan on both stances...
fortunately, this is out of date
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/19/technology/web-protests-piracy-bill-and-2-key-senators-change-course.html
CowboyWay
01-18-2012, 04:23 PM
There just isn't enough money in music and movies for these celebrities to survive. You are all cruel. Lets do what we can for them, no matter the cause.
iceberg
01-18-2012, 04:27 PM
There just isn't enough money in music and movies for these celebrities to survive. You are all cruel. Lets do what we can for them, no matter the cause.
i don't really give a damn about celebraties. my concern is also how to protect the rights of the artists. it costs a TON to get a band going to even try to succeed. i was good friend with a local band called Faktion here in the Dallas area and when they were on tour with rev theory and hinder, fans kept coming up to them ADMITTING they downloaded their music and loved it - looking strange when asked where they "bought" it.
since "no sales" is the death sentence, they were kicked from roadrunner records before long.
then you have those not even fortunate enough to make it that far and just trying to sell their music on cdbaby or even online somehow. but if people want it bad enough they can find a way to "steal" it.
i'm all for helping this situation, but this legislation has as much chance of doing that as i do becoming a chip-n-dales dancer.
Hoofbite
01-18-2012, 08:36 PM
Here's a good video on it.
It's interesting to hear the timeline. Not but 20 years ago you could record and "share" music and such. Just couldn't profit off the items.
Then, you couldn't even record.
Now they want you to prove you aren't recording before doing anything else.
-LEb_D2SD3k&feature=g-u-u&context=G2fd89fbFUAAAAAAAAAA
I don't know how anyone can support the bill.
I think it's pretty clear that anyone who does simply doesn't understand it at all.
CowboyMcCoy
01-19-2012, 08:11 PM
It's a sad day when the only way you can get the populace's attention is to take their social media away.
It's a sad day when the only way you can get the populace's attention is to take their social media away.
Bingo.
A lot worse things have been passed in the last year or so without very much more than a murmur.
Hoofbite
01-19-2012, 10:16 PM
Bingo.
A lot worse things have been passed in the last year or so without very much more than a murmur.
Sure, but most of those things are behind the scenes.
This has the potential to impact everyday life and given the limitations on information, I'm actually not sure anything worse has been passed.
How'd you like to see CZ shut down?
Sure, but most of those things are behind the scenes.
This has the potential to impact everyday life and given the limitations on information, I'm actually not sure anything worse has been passed.
How'd you like to see CZ shut down?
I wouldn't, anymore than I'd like to see this thread shut down, so all I'll say is NNDA. Look it up. It didn't create half the stir and the ramifications are more important than the CZ being shutdown.
SaltwaterServr
01-20-2012, 05:37 AM
I wouldn't, anymore than I'd like to see this thread shut down, so all I'll say is NNDA. Look it up. It didn't create half the stir and the ramifications are more important than the CZ being shutdown.
http://www.nnda.org/
http://www.nnda.net/
http://www.facebook.com/pages/NNDA/168668803158333
http://alexandravaliente.wordpress.com/2012/01/02/israel-police-state-u-s-a-the-nnda-and-war-on-iran/
http://www.nevadaappeal.com/article/20120110/NEWS/120109786
Those are the top five Google results for NNDA. Perhaps you could be more specific to what you were alluding?
http://www.nnda.org/
http://www.nnda.net/
http://www.facebook.com/pages/NNDA/168668803158333
http://alexandravaliente.wordpress.com/2012/01/02/israel-police-state-u-s-a-the-nnda-and-war-on-iran/
http://www.nevadaappeal.com/article/20120110/NEWS/120109786
Those are the top five Google results for NNDA. Perhaps you could be more specific to what you were alluding?
That it didn't receive the same level of protest that this thing did. Not attention, protest.
Sorry I had my acronym wrong: National Defense Authorization Act: NDAA.
StevenOtero
01-20-2012, 06:08 AM
That it didn't receive the same level of protest that this thing did. Not attention, protest.
Sorry I had my acronym wrong: National Defense Authorization Act: NDAA.You go it! ..but shhh you can't question and make political posts on here. be vewwy vewwy quiet.
You go it! ..but shhh you can't question and make political posts on here. be vewwy vewwy quiet.
:laugh2:
I know, I just threw the topic out there for people to look at outside of the CBZ. And how it's relevant to CowboyMcCoys point.
cowboyuptx
01-20-2012, 08:38 AM
It is far more important than most realize that we stop these bills from passing... Our TV's are nothing more than propaganda machines, the internet is the last place we have to view and/or broadcast dissenting opinions... We're losing our liberties at an alarming rate, we must stem the tide! We must keep the net free for America!
I have contacted my congressional representatives about this, I encourage all to do the same...
RON PAUL IN 2012!
Sam I Am
01-20-2012, 08:41 AM
The same people behind SOPA / PIPA are the people who took MegaUpload down. SOPA / PIPA isn't even a law yet and we are already feeling the affects of it.
tupperware
01-20-2012, 09:50 AM
I'll continue using Newsgroups. :laugh2:
Sam I Am
01-20-2012, 09:53 AM
I'll continue using Newsgroups. :laugh2:
For now you will, but at some point they are going to take down alt.hamster.ductape. :laugh2:
tupperware
01-20-2012, 09:59 AM
For now you will, but at some point they are going to take down alt.hamster.ductape. :laugh2:
Well, it's likely the last to fall and I'm going to milk it for what it's worth while it is here.
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