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supercowboy8
01-18-2012, 11:32 AM
http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft2012/story/_/id/7467078/mel-kiper-first-mock-draft-year

Kiper has us taking

http://a.espncdn.com/i/insider/numbers/14.png
Dallas Cowboys (http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/_/name/dal/dallas-cowboys)


* David DeCastro (http://espn.go.com/college-football/player/_/id/380461/david-decastro), OG, Stanford
Last year, the Cowboys got Tyron Smith (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/13978/tyron-smith) at No. 9 overall, and that pick helped them turn over the offensive line. The results were pretty good in 2011. With DeCastro, the Cowboys have a chance to solidify the interior of the line, helping both the running game and protection for Tony Romo (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/5209/tony-romo) and make that unit a strength. The way I see it, the Cowboys have good pieces in place at every other spot on the offense. The talent at wide receiver and tight end is fine, Romo was quietly among the top-performing quarterbacks and there's plenty at running back. Doubling down on the O-line should be an option for Jerry Jones. If the value is there, Dallas could also target the secondary.

robert70x7
01-18-2012, 11:34 AM
Seems to be the logical choice with he Kirkpatrick news. Dennard and the rest of the top 5 cornerbacks outside of Claiborne would be a reach here.

supercowboy8
01-18-2012, 11:41 AM
Kiper has
Kirkpatrick going 8
Upshaw going 10
Ingram going 12

so these guys off the board and DeCastro is there then I do it.

robert70x7
01-18-2012, 11:50 AM
Indianapolis Colts - Andrew Luck
St. Louis Rams - Justin Blackmon
Minnesota Vikings - Matt Kalil
Cleveland Browns - Robert Griffin III
Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Trent Richardson
Washington Redskins - Morris Claiborne
Jacksonville Jaguars - Quinton Coples
Carolina Panthers - Dre Kirkpatrick
Miami Dolphins - Riley Reiff
Buffalo Bills - Courtney Upshaw
Kansas City Chiefs - Devon Still
Seattle Seahawks - Melvin Ingram
Arizona Cardinals - Jonathan Martin
Dallas Cowboys - David DeCastro
Philadelphia Eagles - Luke Kuechly
New York Jets - Mark Barron
Cincinnati Bengals - Alfonzo Dennard
San Diego Chargers - Cordy Glenn
Chicago Bears - Michael Floyd
Tennessee Titans - Nick Perry
Cincinnati Bengals - Lamar Miller
Cleveland Browns - Kendall Wright
Detroit Lions - Zach Brown
Pittsburgh Steelers - Dontari Poe
Denver Broncos - Fletcher Cox
Houston Texans - Mohamed Sanu
New England Patriots - Michael Brockers
Green Bay Packers - Whitney Mercilus
New York Giants - Zebrie Sanders
Baltimore Ravens - Vontaze Burfict
San Francisco 49ers - Alshon Jeffery
New England Patriots - Andre Branch

jblaze2004
01-18-2012, 01:31 PM
whoa mark barron at 16? brockers falling all the way to the patriots? i thought they said he was the best d-line in the draft?

Biggems
01-18-2012, 01:33 PM
I want Washington to have no part of Morris Claiborne....

Randy White
01-18-2012, 01:43 PM
Mark Barron is highly thought of, but some of you just choose to ignore it.

I've changed my mind about him going to the Cowboys because I've watched further film on DeCastro and I'm drinking the kool-aid when it comes to his impact, but Barron will most likely be a #1 draft choice and it will probably be in the teens.

Helmet Hair is just conveying a wide spread belief.

Chris in Arizona
01-18-2012, 01:54 PM
Miami Dolphins - Riley Reiff
Buffalo Bills - Courtney Upshaw
Kansas City Chiefs - Devon Still
Seattle Seahawks - Melvin Ingram
Arizona Cardinals - Jonathan Martin
Dallas Cowboys - David DeCastro

Best case scenario for us.

DFWJC
01-18-2012, 02:05 PM
That's a fairly reasonable Mock at this early stage.

reddyuta
01-18-2012, 02:49 PM
I like Ingram @ 14 ,he is a better pass rusher than Spencer and can play the run too.we should take him over Decastro if both are available at 14.

Dash28
01-18-2012, 02:51 PM
I like Ingram @ 14 ,he is a better pass rusher than Spencer and can play the run too.we should take him over Decastro if both are available at 14.
No thanks and I like Ingram.

jblaze2004
01-18-2012, 02:56 PM
I like Ingram @ 14 ,he is a better pass rusher than Spencer and can play the run too.we should take him over Decastro if both are available at 14.

yeah but do anyone notice how slow ingram look coming off the snap? Its like he is the last to move all the time.

Give me nick perry or whitney mercilus

reddyuta
01-18-2012, 03:03 PM
yeah but do anyone notice how slow ingram look coming off the snap? Its like he is the last to move all the time.

hmm.I have not noticed this but he is a playmaker for sure.

supercowboy8
01-18-2012, 03:08 PM
yeah but do anyone notice how slow ingram look coming off the snap? Its like he is the last to move all the time.

Give me nick perry or whitney mercilus
where is he playing when you see him slow off the snap and what was the play.
Ingram was asked to hold the line alot as a DT vs the run.
If it is a running situtaion Ingram was probably asked to play the run.
Also often times when he is playing OLB for SC he was playing there for his ability to cover.
But when I seen him on a straight pass rush the guy fires right off the ball.
SC used his versitility for multiple roles.

I think Ingram will be gone before DeCastro and will be a top 12 pick.

johnnyd
01-18-2012, 03:53 PM
sweet he has the giants losing this week! :mchammer:

robert70x7
01-18-2012, 05:14 PM
History says DeCastro will be there. In the past 23 years, here's where first round guards have been taken:

19, 24, 17, 19, 16, 14, 25, 23, 10, 26, 17, 30, 32, 23, 29, 15, 17, 25, 23.

I like the idea of two, young, high caliber offensive linemen being cornerstones for years to come. DeCastro is #1 on my board of realistic draft choices, especially now that Kirkpatrick was caught with weed.

http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/history?year=-1&round=1&team=-1&college=-1&position=47&procoach=-1&highschoolstate=-1&award=-1&collegecoach=-1&highschool=-1&x=46&y=12

Future
01-18-2012, 06:33 PM
History says DeCastro will be there. In the past 23 years, here's where first round guards have been taken:

19, 24, 17, 19, 16, 14, 25, 23, 10, 26, 17, 30, 32, 23, 29, 15, 17, 25, 23.

I like the idea of two, young, high caliber offensive linemen being cornerstones for years to come. DeCastro is #1 on my board of realistic draft choices, especially now that Kirkpatrick was caught with weed.

http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/history?year=-1&round=1&team=-1&college=-1&position=47&procoach=-1&highschoolstate=-1&award=-1&collegecoach=-1&highschool=-1&x=46&y=12
I could care less about Kirkpatrick's legal troubles because we should take DeCastro anyways. Draft him and sign Nicks or Grubbs and OLine goes from a glaring weakness to a great strength on this team. Totally worth it, even if DeCastro is a reach at 14.

Smith - DeCastro - Kowalski - Nicks - Free

That's a great OLine. You have to take that opportunity if its available.

Dash28
01-18-2012, 11:29 PM
I could care less about Kirkpatrick's legal troubles because we should take DeCastro anyways. Draft him and sign Nicks or Grubbs and OLine goes from a glaring weakness to a great strength on this team. Totally worth it, even if DeCastro is a reach at 14.

Smith - DeCastro - Kowalski - Nicks - Free

That's a great OLine. You have to take that opportunity if its available.
Agreed.

I would only flip DeCastro and Nicks to keep them at their position they played.

RoyTheHammer
01-19-2012, 01:51 AM
I'll take Dont'a Hightower in the second round no question. I'd trade up to get him if he lasted that friggin long.

JoeCorrado
01-19-2012, 07:29 AM
Kiper has
Kirkpatrick going 8
Upshaw going 10
Ingram going 12

so these guys off the board and DeCastro is there then I do it.

There would still be good choices on the defensive side of the ball. Unless we do not sign a top shelf guard in FA, no way do I consider DeCastro, or any other guard at the 14 spot.

And if we don't address the O-Line in FA, I must assume the coaches are pleased with the players we have. On the other hand, if we get very active signing plenty of help for the defense in FA- then maybe O-line does place top priority on draft day.

Oh, my goodness. It is all speculation for now, anyway. But at this point, Kiper is full of crap in my opinion. ;)

Risen Star
01-19-2012, 07:49 AM
sweet he has the giants losing this week! :mchammer:

He's just going by record. He's not making any predictions.

johnnyd
01-19-2012, 09:35 AM
He's just going by record. He's not making any predictions.

i hear ya . i just felt like using the Hammer icon .. lol

JackWagon
01-19-2012, 10:56 AM
http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft2012/story/_/id/7467078/mel-kiper-first-mock-draft-year

Kiper has us taking

http://a.espncdn.com/i/insider/numbers/14.png (http://a.espncdn.com/i/insider/numbers/14.png)
Dallas Cowboys (http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/_/name/dal/dallas-cowboys)


* David DeCastro (http://espn.go.com/college-football/player/_/id/380461/david-decastro), OG, Stanford
Last year, the Cowboys got Tyron Smith (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/13978/tyron-smith) at No. 9 overall, and that pick helped them turn over the offensive line. The results were pretty good in 2011. With DeCastro, the Cowboys have a chance to solidify the interior of the line, helping both the running game and protection for Tony Romo (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/5209/tony-romo) and make that unit a strength. The way I see it, the Cowboys have good pieces in place at every other spot on the offense. The talent at wide receiver and tight end is fine, Romo was quietly among the top-performing quarterbacks and there's plenty at running back. Doubling down on the O-line should be an option for Jerry Jones. If the value is there, Dallas could also target the secondary.

Dre Kirkpatrick ... come on down ... Jerry is gonna love you.

texbumthelife
01-19-2012, 05:05 PM
Indianapolis Colts - Andrew Luck
St. Louis Rams - Justin Blackmon
Minnesota Vikings - Matt Kalil
Cleveland Browns - Robert Griffin III
Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Trent Richardson
Washington Redskins - Morris Claiborne
Jacksonville Jaguars - Quinton Coples
Carolina Panthers - Dre Kirkpatrick
Miami Dolphins - Riley Reiff
Buffalo Bills - Courtney Upshaw
Kansas City Chiefs - Devon Still
Seattle Seahawks - Melvin Ingram
Arizona Cardinals - Jonathan Martin
Dallas Cowboys - David DeCastro
Philadelphia Eagles - Luke Kuechly
New York Jets - Mark Barron
Cincinnati Bengals - Alfonzo Dennard
San Diego Chargers - Cordy Glenn
Chicago Bears - Michael Floyd
Tennessee Titans - Nick Perry
Cincinnati Bengals - Lamar Miller
Cleveland Browns - Kendall Wright
Detroit Lions - Zach Brown
Pittsburgh Steelers - Dontari Poe
Denver Broncos - Fletcher Cox
Houston Texans - Mohamed Sanu
New England Patriots - Michael Brockers
Green Bay Packers - Whitney Mercilus
New York Giants - Zebrie Sanders
Baltimore Ravens - Vontaze Burfict
San Francisco 49ers - Alshon Jeffery
New England Patriots - Andre Branch

Cleveland giving up on Colt already?
Tampa bay giving up on Blount even though he was quietly one of the best RB in the league last year?

Those two jumped out at me as reaches. I know everyone is high on DeCastro now but I want no part of a G in the first round, especially if it's going to be addressed in FA.

God help the AFC if Pitts or Balt get Burfict. A lot of teams will be regretting passing on him if he goes to one of those teams.

JackWagon
01-19-2012, 05:20 PM
Cleveland giving up on Colt already?
Tampa bay giving up on Blount even though he was quietly one of the best RB in the league last year?

Those two jumped out at me as reaches. I know everyone is high on DeCastro now but I want no part of a G in the first round, especially if it's going to be addressed in FA.

God help the AFC if Pitts or Balt get Burfict. A lot of teams will be regretting passing on him if he goes to one of those teams.

Burfict will probably be there ... a lot of people think hes a headcase and will drop accordingly. Suggs and him on the same defense really would be scary.