View Full Version : George Lucas Blames 'Star Wars' Critics for Killing Series
Duane
01-19-2012, 08:26 AM
http://movies.msn.com/paralleluniverse/george-lucas-talks-star-wars-critics/story/feature/
Sci-fi filmmaker hurt by harsh feedback from some fans about the prequels
By David Eckstein
Zap2it
For any fans awaiting future "Star Wars" films from George Lucas, it's going to be a long wait. The creator of the famed series says he's not going to make any more of these movies and that he's essentially retiring. And for that he blames the harsh feedback from certain fans...
Maybe if he listened to people like Spielberg who tried to tell him how terrible some of his ideas were he wouldn't be so butt hurt now.
ShiningStar
01-19-2012, 08:29 AM
oh noes, no more terrible movies to kill our memories of his first three star wars movies, i wont settle for this, i wont.
iceberg
01-19-2012, 08:36 AM
he gave us jar jar binks - he did it to himself.
MonsterD
01-19-2012, 08:38 AM
The prequels sucked bad, the end, I only saw them on TV because I knew it was going to be bad. I think he should be happy about how much he ripped off the Star Wars cult fans and has their money. Anything he possibly would have made in the future I would have been very skeptical about. Only movie maker I would regard as making crap for the masses more is M.Knight.
trickblue
01-19-2012, 08:50 AM
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Duane
01-19-2012, 09:01 AM
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Duane
01-19-2012, 09:05 AM
The prequels sucked bad, the end, I only saw them on TV because I knew it was going to be bad. I think he should be happy about how much he ripped off the Star Wars cult fans and has their money. Anything he possibly would have made in the future I would have been very skeptical about. Only movie maker I would regard as making crap for the masses more is M.Knight.
I actually liked Episode III: Revenge of the Sith but disliked the first two prequels.
Sam I Am
01-19-2012, 09:14 AM
I somewhat agree with him. He started it with JarJar, but the herd mentality took over with the bashing afterwards. The movies where nowhere near as bad as some made them out to be. They definitely had entertainment value.
While the three prequels were not made in the same mold as the three original movies, there were still good movies. (with the exception of the terribly annoying JarJar Binks)
Though, most movies no matter how good generally have at least one thing you do not like about this. At least after the initial JarJar backlash in the first movie, they toned him down a bit in the following two movies.
If you were a fan of the original series and say they sucked you are either (A) herd mentality dog-piling, (B) way to freaking much of a purist and not taking the movie for what it was. Entertaining SciFi movies.
btw. The prequels are not far off of Return of the Jedi's mold with the Ewoks. The Starwars IV and Starwars V were far more serious than Starwars VI. The Ewoks were goofy just like JarJar. Some people seem to overlook that even though it is extremely relevant to "what they hate" about the prequels.
MonsterD
01-19-2012, 09:32 AM
If you were a fan of the original series and say they sucked you are either (A) herd mentality dog-piling, (B) way to freaking much of a purist and not taking the movie for what it was. Entertaining SciFi movies.
btw. The prequels are not far off of Return of the Jedi's mold with the Ewoks. The Starwars IV and Starwars V
I thought the story was weak in the prequels and they attempted to satiate the audience with cliched nostalgia. I never have been a Star Wars person but it was just silly and never loved any characters.
I will say I disliked the new Star Trek revision too, mostly because it did some of the same nostalgia throwup for no reason thing. I actually thought as a standalone the new Star Trek was a decent movie, but as a Star Trek fan that loved most of the other movies it was just crap in the Star Trek universe.
:clap2:
Let's hear it for the critics.
Sam I Am
01-19-2012, 09:45 AM
I thought the story was weak in the prequels and they attempted to satiate the audience with cliched nostalgia. I never have been a Star Wars person but it was just silly and never loved any characters.
The prequels were written back in the 80s right after Return of the Jedi was released. It wasn't something they developed just prior to making the first movie in 1999.
MonsterD
01-19-2012, 09:48 AM
The prequels were written back in the 80s right after Return of the Jedi was released. It wasn't something they developed just prior to making the first movie in 1999.
I'm sure the germane idea was back then, I would be surprised if it was like the way it was presented now.
joseephuss
01-19-2012, 11:06 AM
I don't believe it. Lucas knows Star Wars makes money. Lots of money. If he needs/wants another big haul, he will make another Star Wars movie. Of course he has to get through re-releasing all the previous films in 3D first. If he goes through another divorce in his lifetime(I don't know if he is currently married) then expect a new movie shortly after.
joseephuss
01-19-2012, 11:07 AM
btw. The prequels are not far off of Return of the Jedi's mold with the Ewoks. The Starwars IV and Starwars V were far more serious than Starwars VI. The Ewoks were goofy just like JarJar. Some people seem to overlook that even though it is extremely relevant to "what they hate" about the prequels.
Jedi was/is criticized for the Ewoks.
Sam I Am
01-19-2012, 11:13 AM
Jedi was/is criticized for the Ewoks.
Yes, but a majority of the complainers say that the prequels screwed up the Starwars legacy and mention nothing about Return of the Jedi. Actually, at the time hardly anyone really complained about the Ewoks. I remember all the kids in school all talking about how "funny" they were.
Was Return of the Jedi a bad movie? No. I don't think any of the movies were bad.
The biggest deal is most people don't like change. Especially "older people". Most people watched Starwars when they were kids and then 20-30 years later and seeing a new version of it and hate the fact that "it changed".
This inability to accept change is why a lot of "older people" that do what I do for a living get pushed out. Technology demands change, and if the person implementing refuses to change, the have to be pushed aside.
It's a movie. Accept it for what it is and judge it on it's own merit. Not on some movie released 30+ years ago in 1977.
bbgun
01-19-2012, 11:13 AM
That's like blaming Jews for the Holocaust.
Wimbo
01-19-2012, 11:14 AM
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Sam I Am
01-19-2012, 11:21 AM
That's like blaming Jews for the Holocaust.
lol. This is both asinine and can be made relative if you word it properly.
Chocolate Lab
01-19-2012, 11:21 AM
Yes, but a majority of the complainers say that the prequels screwed up the Starwars legacy and mention nothing about Return of the Jedi. Actually, at the time hardly anyone really complained about the Ewoks. I remember all the kids in school all talking about how "funny" they were.
Was Return of the Jedi a bad movie? No. I don't think any of the movies were bad.
The biggest deal is most people don't like change. Especially "older people". Most people watched Starwars when they were kids and then 20-30 years later and seeing a new version of it and hate the fact that "it changed".
This inability to accept change is why a lot of "older people" that do what I do for a living get pushed out. Technology demands change, and if the person implementing refuses to change, the have to be pushed aside.
It's a movie. Accept it for what it is and judge it on it's own merit. Not on some movie released 30+ years ago in 1977.
No, actually the prequels just sucked. (Except for the last one.)
Sam I Am
01-19-2012, 11:25 AM
No, actually the prequels just sucked. (Except for the last one.)
Yeah? What exactly sucked about them besides the fact that they weren't xerox copies of the first three?
arglebargle
01-19-2012, 11:44 AM
Lucas has his problems, and they are exacerbated by the wall of sycophantic yes men who have now surrounded him. He's too close to the Star Wars story, and does not apparantly have anyone who will tell him when his tin ear for it is screwing up things. Lucas has insulated himself from any real world feedback. He's externalizing the blame.
It's no shock that the Star Wars film that had the least Lucas in it (Empire Strikes Back) is often considered the best. Lucas really got a lot of help from other writers even on the original story, who really helped punch it up. I've a friend who's seen one of the earlier drafts of Star Wars, and he rolls his eyes at it.
Luke Starkiller, pudgy farm boy, unwilling hero who get dragged against his will into the rebellion. Ugh.
Lucas has brought this on himself. The last three Star Wars films got harsh criticism because they were poorly done, with a wooden feel for his own world. Same for the last Indiana Jones movie.
Was reading his angst about no distributors being interested in his Red Tails movie. There's a reason. Sometimes the Hollywood set has no clue about things and won't support it (Original Star Wars movie). Sometimes they look at what you've done and think you're not worth the gamble.
I wish Lucas luck in his plan to do little art films. Perhaps he can get the magic back. But not every director is going to release a steady stream of great films, not everyone is a Scorsese, Eastwood, or Frankenheimer.
ShiningStar
01-19-2012, 11:50 AM
Yes, but a majority of the complainers say that the prequels screwed up the Starwars legacy and mention nothing about Return of the Jedi. Actually, at the time hardly anyone really complained about the Ewoks. I remember all the kids in school all talking about how "funny" they were.
Was Return of the Jedi a bad movie? No. I don't think any of the movies were bad.
The biggest deal is most people don't like change. Especially "older people". Most people watched Starwars when they were kids and then 20-30 years later and seeing a new version of it and hate the fact that "it changed".
This inability to accept change is why a lot of "older people" that do what I do for a living get pushed out. Technology demands change, and if the person implementing refuses to change, the have to be pushed aside.
It's a movie. Accept it for what it is and judge it on it's own merit. Not on some movie released 30+ years ago in 1977.
you're trying to break it down to the least demoninator to accept it in your terms, thats fine, for me who watched the orginals and love the star wars universe, the movies sucked, had nothing to do with change, it was horible in my book. THan again so was that Star Trek pile of dung they are calling a movie than knowing that wouldnt work threw in the word "revision" also meaning we cant do better but we want money.
Sam I Am
01-19-2012, 11:54 AM
you're trying to break it down to the least demoninator to accept it in your terms, thats fine, for me who watched the orginals and love the star wars universe, the movies sucked, had nothing to do with change, it was horible in my book. THan again so was that Star Trek pile of dung they are calling a movie than knowing that wouldnt work threw in the word "revision" also meaning we cant do better but we want money.
The Star Trek? Are you referring to the 2009 series reboot? I thought that movie was great and am pissed off that they aren't already in post production of the sequel to that movie.
ShiningStar
01-19-2012, 11:59 AM
Yeah? What exactly sucked about them besides the fact that they weren't xerox copies of the first three?
to detailed for what he needed. In the first three, the overall story of the first three was good vs evil, you had an empire, (evil), and rebels (good), than the story spun and the common uninterested person could ejoy the movies and the deep detailed nerd (me) could enjoy the films.
In the newer ones, Jar Jar binks aside, i had a problem with C3PO being built by Anakin, I think if Anakin was supposed to be that technically engineered from the get go, C3po would not have been built as a standard protocal driod as he was explaining in one of the movies. HE speaks as if thats how he was created straight off the line, if Anakin had previously built him, he would have tweaked a lot and i dont see how a butler droid would interest any kid. I had problems with this from the get go. Thats also years after playing the role playing games.
ShiningStar
01-19-2012, 12:00 PM
The Star Trek? Are you referring to the 2009 series reboot? I thought that movie was great and am pissed off that they aren't already in post production of the sequel to that movie.
thats fine, but to geeks like me and my friend it was a slap in the face, but thats opinion and therefore i threw mine out and thats that.
arglebargle
01-19-2012, 12:06 PM
The Star Trek? Are you referring to the 2009 series reboot? I thought that movie was great and am pissed off that they aren't already in post production of the sequel to that movie.
I think the sequel to that is in production at least....
Not out on time, but not canned either.
Chocolate Lab
01-19-2012, 12:07 PM
Yeah? What exactly sucked about them besides the fact that they weren't xerox copies of the first three?
For one, way too much dependence on CGI and wowing the crowd with special effects rather than focusing on the story, which is what made the first series so great. (Though the ewoks were stupid.)
Age has zero to do with it. Good and bad movies are made today just as they always have been. The prequels simply weren't as good, though I did like the last one. But #2 was poor and #1 was practically unwatchable.
CowboyWay
01-19-2012, 12:10 PM
I somewhat agree with him. He started it with JarJar, but the herd mentality took over with the bashing afterwards.
No, he started it with the Ewoks. Think about it. Cute fuzzy little critters that he figured would sell a zillion toys based on. Jar Jar was just the present day "cutesy" critter.
We just didn't notice it as much with Return of the Jedi because for the most part, most of us were young, and since it was the first time he pulled something like this, we didn't notice it.
Think about the Ewoks, and then compare it to the the first couple of movies. There weren't anything like them prior to that.
The ewoks and jar jar was only in there to sell merchandise, and it backfired on him (at least jar jar backfired)
joseephuss
01-19-2012, 12:10 PM
That's like blaming Jews for the Holocaust.
For some reason I saw "Jaws" in your post. I had to read it a few times before I read it correctly.
ShiningStar
01-19-2012, 12:12 PM
No, he started it with the Ewoks. Think about it. Cute fuzzy little critters that he figured would sell a zillion toys based on. Jar Jar was just the present day "cutesy" critter.
We just didn't notice it as much with Return of the Jedi because for the most part, most of us were young, and since it was the first time he pulled something like this, we didn't notice it.
Think about the Ewoks, and then compare it to the the first couple of movies. There weren't anything like them prior to that.
The ewoks and jar jar was only in there to sell merchandise, and it backfired on him (at least jar jar backfired)
so the whole point of him trying to express that simple technology can save the day didnt have anything to do with it, just merchandising?
bbgun
01-19-2012, 12:14 PM
For some reason I saw "Jaws" in your post. I had to read it a few times before I read it correctly.
Sharks are like the Nazis of the sea, so I guess it makes sense.
arglebargle
01-19-2012, 12:35 PM
No, he started it with the Ewoks. Think about it. Cute fuzzy little critters that he figured would sell a zillion toys based on. Jar Jar was just the present day "cutesy" critter.
We just didn't notice it as much with Return of the Jedi because for the most part, most of us were young, and since it was the first time he pulled something like this, we didn't notice it.
Think about the Ewoks, and then compare it to the the first couple of movies. There weren't anything like them prior to that.
The ewoks and jar jar was only in there to sell merchandise, and it backfired on him (at least jar jar backfired)
Originally, the story was to be set on the planet of the wookies. Apparantly, wookies tearing Imperial Troopers limb from limb was considered 'too violent', and they eventually morphed into the much more toy-friendly Ewoks.
arglebargle
01-19-2012, 12:36 PM
For some reason I saw "Jaws" in your post. I had to read it a few times before I read it correctly.
I saw Jawas there.
burmafrd
01-19-2012, 12:47 PM
Star Wars was a classic movie. You do not change classic movies?
have they ever done anything with Gone with The Wind to gussie it up for present times? NO.
Citizen Kane
Casbalanca
10 Commandments
Ben Hur
Guess what- none of them were ever 'modernized'
That is why many who loved the original Star wars hate the new versions - from the BS about Han shooting first to the rest of the new age PC garbage it all stank.
Joe Rod
01-19-2012, 01:17 PM
I don't feel that I paid much attention to the critics, but I just was not that impressed with the first two. I thought the third was pretty well done.
Wolfpack
01-19-2012, 01:54 PM
The original 1977, A New Hope, has a dark serious feel to it. Everything from the way the starships and equipment are weathered and look used to the dialog. Solo's dialog is to break that seriousness with his one liners and it lets him shine.
That seriousness left after The Emprire Strikes Back for some reason.
The screenplay work in the Ep 1-3 is terrible and not at all on par with 4 & 5. Lucas had alot of help on 4 and turned much of 5 over to others as he is a weak writer.
arglebargle
01-19-2012, 02:07 PM
The original 1977, A New Hope, has a dark serious feel to it. Everything from the way the starships and equipment are weathered and look used to the dialog. Solo's dialog is to break that seriousness with his one liners and it lets him shine.
That seriousness left after The Emprire Strikes Back for some reason.
The screenplay work in the Ep 1-3 is terrible and not at all on par with 4 & 5. Lucas had alot of help on 4 and turned much of 5 over to others as he is a weak writer.
:thumbup:
If you want to see someone take apart the phantom menace, check out the exhaustive plinket review of it. Done as a parody of a movie reviewer/serial killer, it nonetheless exposes massive problems with the films. Can't link here due to language, etc.
Some of the bits are priceless: Getting fans to describe the characters of the first Star Wars, vs the Phantom Menace where they can't even remember them. Ouch.
RedLetterMedia's 'Plinkett' Star Wars
bbgun
01-19-2012, 02:17 PM
:thumbup:
If you want to see someone take apart the phantom menace, check out the exhaustive plinket review of it. Done as a parody of a movie reviewer/serial killer, it nonetheless exposes massive problems with the films. Can't link here due to language, etc.
Some of the bits are priceless: Getting fans to describe the characters of the first Star Wars, vs the Phantom Menace where they can't even remember them. Ouch.
RedLetterMedia's 'Plinkett' Star Wars
Love that guy. He just eviscerated the last Indiana Jones movie, but he should've spent 15 minutes on the refrigerator scene alone.
CowboyWay
01-19-2012, 05:16 PM
so the whole point of him trying to express that simple technology can save the day didnt have anything to do with it, just merchandising?
When Rocky went to Russia to train to fight Drago, he didn't have Ewoks holding the punching bag.
Ewoks were nothing more than cute, cuddly little teddy bears that Lucas intended to sell merchandise of.
Like another poster said earlier. Few will dispute Empire as the best of all the movies. There was none of that garbage in there, because they didn't need it. The story was good enough.
MonsterD
01-19-2012, 07:36 PM
When Rocky went to Russia to train to fight Drago, he didn't have Ewoks holding the punching bag.
Ewoks were nothing more than cute, cuddly little teddy bears that Lucas intended to sell merchandise of.
Like another poster said earlier. Few will dispute Empire as the best of all the movies. There was none of that garbage in there, because they didn't need it. The story was good enough.
That is my contention too, just make a good story not some sorry-a piecemeal work of hot wet garbage meant to appease the Star Wars image.
The30YardSlant
01-19-2012, 07:42 PM
Revenge of the Sith was decent, but the first two were not impressive at all.
The biggest problem with the new movies is that Lucas became obssessed with CGI. The first three films were great because they did what they did within the very strict constraints of 70s/80s technology. As a result, they looked much more organic and natural and the movie had to be more than just cool special effects. For example, what looks better: Chewbacca or CGI Jar-Jar Binks? Model space battles or CGI ones? EVERYTHING in the new movies was rendered on a computer it seemed and there was far less substance.
Also, Lucas is the worst love scene writer in the history of film-making. The scenes with Anikan and Padme were just painful. It worked with han Solo and Lea in the originals because that was supposed to be awkward, but Anikan and Padme are supposed to be more down to earth and madly in love.
Tricericon
01-19-2012, 07:46 PM
The Star Trek? Are you referring to the 2009 series reboot? I thought that movie was great and am pissed off that they aren't already in post production of the sequel to that movie.
It didn't stand up well to repeat viewings. The plot had more than enough holes in it to sink the Bismarck.
It is, however, very watchable if you turn your brain and your knowledge of actual Star Trek off, tho, which is a lot more than I can say for The Phantom Menace.
ChldsPlay
01-19-2012, 09:51 PM
Yeah? What exactly sucked about them besides the fact that they weren't xerox copies of the first three?
Have you seen the Red Letter Media reviews?
I actually think ANH is by far the worst of the original trilogy (Empire is the best), and the one that most resembles the prequels, particularly Episode 1. Not surprising, it's the only one of the original trilogy that Lucas was the writer and director like he was with the prequels.
jimmy40
01-20-2012, 08:09 AM
I thought it was the special affects that made the original so good for the time.
jimmy40
01-20-2012, 08:16 AM
Gone with The Wind
Citizen Kane
Star Wars
Casbalanca
10 Commandments
Ben Hur
http://videogoneviral.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/belong.jpg
rynochop
01-20-2012, 08:45 AM
My main issue was the guy who played Annikan. There had to be a 100 no name actors that were better than him. The dialogue between he and padme was just creepy.
CanadianCowboysFan
01-20-2012, 12:45 PM
That's like blaming Jews for the Holocaust.
you mean it wasn't their own fault?
I never had a problem with the Prequels. In any event, that is revisionism from Lucas, he said back in 1999 he wasn't going to make the rest of the movies.
Cajuncowboy
01-20-2012, 01:04 PM
Well, here is a fresh perspective. I watched the original Star Wars movie when it came out in the theaters. I never saw it after that and never saw the next two movies that came out.
My 15 YO daughter has become a big Star Wars fan and she asked for the whole series on BluRay for Christmas. So we just got done watching them from the first one (The first prequel) through the end. All six movies. First time I've ever seen them (except for the original film).
All in all, I thought they were pretty good. I didn't have any preconceived ideas f what they should be or what direction they should take.
Anyway, I wouldn't mind seeing another movie.
burmafrd
01-20-2012, 01:13 PM
Have you seen the Red Letter Media reviews?
I actually think ANH is by far the worst of the original trilogy (Empire is the best), and the one that most resembles the prequels, particularly Episode 1. Not surprising, it's the only one of the original trilogy that Lucas was the writer and director like he was with the prequels.
clearly a very minority view
CanadianCowboysFan
01-20-2012, 01:26 PM
clearly a very minority view
doesn't make it wrong marine
REDVOLUTION
01-20-2012, 04:10 PM
http://movies.msn.com/paralleluniverse/george-lucas-talks-star-wars-critics/story/feature/
Sci-fi filmmaker hurt by harsh feedback from some fans about the prequels
By David Eckstein
Zap2it
For any fans awaiting future "Star Wars" films from George Lucas, it's going to be a long wait. The creator of the famed series says he's not going to make any more of these movies and that he's essentially retiring. And for that he blames the harsh feedback from certain fans...
Maybe if he listened to people like Spielberg who tried to tell him how terrible some of his ideas were he wouldn't be so butt hurt now.
butthurt = good lol
oh noes, no more terrible movies to kill our memories of his first three star wars movies, i wont settle for this, i wont.
100% agreed.
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:laugh2:
I actually liked Episode III: Revenge of the Sith but disliked the first two prequels.
Now, the stories weren't terrible in the 3 prequels but he didnt deliver them to the viewer correctly. Too much handholding and detailed telling of a story we already sorts knew.
I dont know if it ever could have worked.
Now, from what I know there was a total of 9 stories. The middle 3 were first released as A New Hope, Empire... & Return (4,5 &6)
Prequels were 1,2,3
So what is left 7, 8 & 9
Snoooooozzeeeeee
bbgun
01-20-2012, 04:52 PM
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cute
Teren_Kanan
01-20-2012, 05:02 PM
As stand alone movies, not even taking into consideration what they do the the star wars universe, All 3 Prequals are horrible.
They are just BAD movies from cinema/film standpoint. Bad storytelling, bad acting, terrible script, and the worse dialogue I have ever seen in a movie with this type of budget(Specially Episode 2 and 3).
They are just really poorly made movies.
As others have mentioned. If you want my exact opinion how why the Star Wars Prequels were bad, watch the Plinkett Review of all 3.
REDVOLUTION
01-20-2012, 06:33 PM
Just wanted to chime in here. I agree plus
As stand alone movies, Horrible
not even taking into consideration what they do the the star wars universe, All 3 Prequals are horrible. Horrible
They are just BAD movies from cinema/film standpoint. Horrible
Bad storytelling, Story wasnt horrible, because it was about what happened pre 4,5,6 - it was delivery
bad acting, Yes, Samuel Jackson was Horrible. Anakin was bad, but for his role, BAD could have worked.
terrible script, Same as above bad storytelling
and the worse dialogue Yes, Samuel Jackson comes to mind AGAIN lol, Yoda too... Smitt's and Padme
I have ever seen in a movie with this type of budget(Specially Episode 2 and 3).
They are just really poorly made movies.
As others have mentioned. If you want my exact opinion how why the Star Wars Prequels were bad, watch the Plinkett Review of all 3.
trickblue
01-20-2012, 06:52 PM
Lucas screwed up in this respect...
The bar scene in Star Wars enamored a lot of people because of the make-up/effects. It was actually the worst scene in the movie...
He tried to relive that "magic" with Jar Jar Binks and it was a colossal mistake... I walked out of the movie within 15 minutes of JJB... never cared to see the other ones...
He felt he knew the pulse of his fans... he didn't. Couple the fact that he is an arrogant SOB and you get the prequels...
SaltwaterServr
01-21-2012, 12:52 AM
Some parts and pieces of the prequels I liked, but it all felt so forced and contrived. Like someone said, who the * cares about most of the characters in the prequels?
You remember the fat guy who looked like a sausage in his X-wing fighter suit, but do you remember 2% of the bad guys in the prequels?
I HATED the last one. BIG HUGE sweeping panoramic introductions to every single damn scenes, then BIG HUGE DRAMATIC zoom into the scene's characters to BIG HUGE DRAMATIC dialogue what was done poorly and stiff.
I've found myself changing the channel on the prequels, something I would never do on the first 3.
That last one, jeez, I can't say enough how much I didn't like it. Lucas wanted a homage done to his "masterpieces" and ended up with hot hammered crap. The first one is also dang near unwatchable. Weren't there any focus groups to view it before it was released, or were the focus groups related to Lucas in some capacity.
Funny thing, when the guys who make South Park met George Lucas, he asked them how they liked it. Matt said he hadn't seen it, said he heard it sucked. George got all kinds of pissed off and had some words for the two of them. Trey Parker told him it was a simple thing, if he wanted them to watch it, just make it "unsuck".
I died laughing when I read that about them.
Cowboys&LakersFan
01-21-2012, 03:39 AM
I have no idea why the first movies were made last. Just stupid IMO.
ConcordCowboy
01-21-2012, 03:55 AM
The only one to blame is Lucas himself.
Those movies Sucked T-Rex Nads.
Hayden Christensen even remotely being in a position to actually become Darth Vader...makes me want to puke right now.
It's preposterous.
burmafrd
01-21-2012, 08:06 AM
doesn't make it wrong marine
so speaks the expert at being wrong
burmafrd
01-21-2012, 08:08 AM
butthurt = good lol
100% agreed.
:laugh2:
Now, the stories weren't terrible in the 3 prequels but he didnt deliver them to the viewer correctly. Too much handholding and detailed telling of a story we already sorts knew.
I dont know if it ever could have worked.
Now, from what I know there was a total of 9 stories. The middle 3 were first released as A New Hope, Empire... & Return (4,5 &6)
Prequels were 1,2,3
So what is left 7, 8 & 9
Snoooooozzeeeeee
its a good bet that 7-9 will never get made; or at least as long as Lucas is around they won't.
Which is a good thing
Jammer
01-21-2012, 10:00 AM
Revenge of the Sith was decent, but the first two were not impressive at all.
The biggest problem with the new movies is that Lucas became obssessed with CGI. The first three films were great because they did what they did within the very strict constraints of 70s/80s technology. As a result, they looked much more organic and natural and the movie had to be more than just cool special effects. For example, what looks better: Chewbacca or CGI Jar-Jar Binks? Model space battles or CGI ones? EVERYTHING in the new movies was rendered on a computer it seemed and there was far less substance.
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc13/scpizzaman/lucas.jpg
:)
joseephuss
01-21-2012, 12:51 PM
I disagree that Lucsas became obsessed with CGI when making the prequels. I think he was always been obsessed with CGI, but the technology just wasn't available while filming the original Star Wars. That movie would have looked much different had he filmed it today. We get a small glimpse of that with his re-tooling of that movie.
arglebargle
01-21-2012, 03:12 PM
With Lucas's later works, I am reminded of Marlon Brando's words to Val Kilmer; "You're confusing your talents with the size of your paycheck".
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