Ravens @ Pats Game Thread - FINAL

[Cowboys&LakersFan]

Who ya got?

[Ultra Warrior]

Ravens. Brady & the Hoodie can spend another failed season together. Cheatin bastids.

[jgboys1]

I am going for the team that has the best chance of beating the gnats.
I think that is the Patriots.

[DallasDomination]

Ravens just because I dislike the pats. I don't care if the giants win, like that we can play the sb champs twice next year and find out what we have. No more easy schedules that mislead the reality of this team. Im actually hoping the giants win the sb. Maybe jerry can get a sense of urgency to make real changes.

[SDCowboy85]

Pats. The idea of a bad QB like flacco going to the superbowl is repulsive.

[Bleu Star]

Just say no to Brady... Leggo Ravens...

[jwitten82]

Steven Tyler is horrible

[Doomsday]

I want the Ravens to win, mostly cause of Ray Rice, but the Pats will probably get it done.

[TheSport78]

Good God Steven Tyler looks like an ancient monkey.

[bigE79]

Pats. The idea of a bad QB like flacco going to the superbowl is repulsive.Trent dilfer says hello

[goliadmike]

Steven Tyler is horrible


That was awful.

[Gemini Dolly]

picking PATS

[goliadmike]

Not a fan of either team...just casually observing.

[ScipioCowboy]

There was something awesome about watching your team take their homefield before a conference championship game.

[Doomsday]

There was something awesome about watching your team take their homefield before a conference championship game.

You have a better memory than me. :laugh2:

[jgboys1]

There was something awesome about watching your team take their homefield before a conference championship game.

Those were the days. I don't think we will see that anytime soon, sad to say. :(

[Clove]

Sounds like that ref is from Boston. Has the accent and all.

[jgboys1]

Sounds like that ref is from Boston. Has the accent and all.

I wonder where he paaked his caar?

[Bleu Star]

Sounds like that ref is from Boston. Has the accent and all.

Home cooking. :flipflop:

[StylisticS]

Don't have a grandson with a dog collars.

[nake]

I wonder where he paaked his caar?

In Boston, its probably been booted and towed by now.

[Bleu Star]

Don't wake up in a roadside ditch.

[ScipioCowboy]

You have a better memory than me. :laugh2:

Those were the days. I don't think we will see that anytime soon, sad to say. :(

I don't mean to turn this thread into a three-hour lament. :)

I was just sharing a recollection. In some ways, watching the Cowboys run on to their homefield before the NFC Championship game felt more epic than even watching them take the field for the Super Bowl.

Of course, the caliber of competition may have had something to do with that feeling. Back then, the NFC Championship game was regarded as the real Super Bowl.

[Bleu Star]

I don't mean to turn this thread into a three-hour lament. :)

I was just sharing a recollection. In some ways, watching the Cowboys run on to their homefield before the NFC Championship game felt more epic than even watching them take the field for the Super Bowl.

Of course, back then, the NFC Championship game was regarded as the real Super Bowl.

Glad I got to see it. Hope to see it again soon.

[Bluestang]

So where is Andre Gurode, I was assured that he was a better player than Costa/Kowalski but yet he is not even a starter in Baltimore?

[kmp77]

Wildfork is a monster.

[Bleu Star]

So where is Andre Gurode, I was assured that he was a better player than Costa/Kowalski but yet he is not even a starter in Baltimore?

Sizzle.

[Bluestang]

And for the record an ELITE QB missed a wide open throw to Gronkowski for 6.

[StylisticS]

Wilfork is killing this line right now.

[Clove]

So funny.

Quarterbacks waiting waiting waiting, you have 2 maybe 3 seconds to either make up your mind, get out of the pocket or throw it away, without a grounding penalty.

[Cowboys&LakersFan]

Flacco is terrible.

[CowboysFanSince88]

stupid punt returner goes backwards when he caught the ball at midfield. he should be benched the rest of the day

[landroverking]

Ravens D going to have to put up some points

[CowboysFanSince88]

Flacco is terrible.

he has no time, how can he throw if he is laying on the ground?

[Bluestang]

So funny.

Quarterbacks waiting waiting waiting, you have 2 maybe 3 seconds to either make up your mind, get out of the pocket or throw it away, without a grounding penalty.


The Baltimore OL is getting manhandled singlehandedly by Wilfork. That is one BAMF NT.

[Clove]

Wilfork is killing this line right now.Trying to single block a guy that out weighs you by 40 lbs is not wise.

[cowboyschmps3]

Who ya got?

Ravens!

[Clove]

he has no time, how can he throw if he is laying on the ground?2 to 3 seconds is a lifetime in the NFL. And he had that. Brady, just threw the ball in 1.6 seconds.

[jgboys1]

The Pats D is not playing like the leagues worst defense right now. They look good.

[Clove]

He just threw the ball in 2 seconds, but in to double coverage. EDIT: Not double coverage, but he under threw it.

[reddyuta]

the Ravens should look for a new QB if Flacco continues to devolve like this.

[Cowboys&LakersFan]

Brady picked off.

[Cowboys&LakersFan]

Finally Flacco makes a play.

[Clove]

Horrible under throw, but I guess it's better to under throw it in that situation than to over throw him and not give him a chance at all.

[Clove]

Both these teams have HUGE defensive lines. Wow!

[landroverking]

The Pats D is not playing like the leagues worst defense right now. They look good.

So true but the Ravens are not the greatest show on turf.

[CowboysFanSince88]

The Pats D is not playing like the leagues worst defense right now. They look good.


I was just about to say that and they give up a wide open pass down field

[Bluestang]

Pats S got sucked in by the playaction and failed to keep backpedaling and locate the 9 route runner.

[dboy214]

i want lardarius webb.

[Bluestang]

2 to 3 seconds is a lifetime in the NFL. And he had that. Brady, just threw the ball in 1.6 seconds.


The Patriots Offense is dinking and dunking their way up the field using short, high percentage passes. That plan backfired when the Ravens adjusted and started playing with inside leverage bump and run. That's how Webb got the pick.

[CowboysFanSince88]

I think it's stupid that the pats won the coin toss and gave the ball to the Ravens. In a do or die game shouldn't the goal be to take advantage of every scoring opportunity? This is not regular season

[Cowboys&LakersFan]

He's short.

[Hoofbite]

So where is Andre Gurode, I was assured that he was a better player than Costa/Kowalski but yet he is not even a starter in Baltimore?

Maybe he's not as good as the guy ahead of him which still does nothing to dispute him being better than Costa.

[Tricericon]

I think it's stupid that the pats won the coin toss and gave the ball to the Ravens. In a do or die game shouldn't the goal be to take advantage of every scoring opportunity? This is not regular season

Pretty sure optimal in-game strategy doesn't change when the calendar rolls over to the post-season.

[CowboysFanSince88]

i want lardarius webb.


Who is that girl in the picture? I think I'm in love

[Cowboys&LakersFan]

SMH another FG.

[Cowboys&LakersFan]

Who is that girl in the picture? I think I'm in love

:laugh2:

[chip_gilkey]

Who is that girl in the picture? I think I'm in love

Pretty sure he had a hotter one in there before.

[CowboysFanSince88]

Pretty sure optimal in-game strategy doesn't change when the calendar rolls over to the post-season.

If I'm a coach I want to set the tone and force the other team to play from behind if I have the opportunity.

[ScipioCowboy]

Brady has made two crucial mistakes yet the score is only 3-3.

[Cowboys&LakersFan]

Pats getting their run game going.

[Cowboys&LakersFan]

Hernandez with a huge drop. That could've been a TD.

[Hoofbite]

Brady has made two crucial mistakes yet the score is only 3-3.

Ran to the store, what's happened?

[Bluestang]

Another missed throw by an ELITE QB or is that on Hernandez?

[ScipioCowboy]

Ran to the store, what's happened?

Overthrew Gronkowski, who was wipe open for a touchdown, and then threw a pick.

[Cowboys&LakersFan]

Green Ellis TD.

[Bluestang]

*** was Baltimore thinking selling out on the pass?

[ScipioCowboy]

A seven yard power run for a touchdown.

When was the last time the Cowboys had a seven yard power run for a touchdown?

[dboy214]

Who is that girl in the picture? I think I'm in love
she's my other girl...:)

[StylisticS]

What Is up with Dr. Pepper and their terrible annoying commercials.

[Doomsday]

Another missed throw by an ELITE QB or is that on Hernandez?

That one was on Brady, Hernandez almost made a great play. That said Brady was pretty darn good on that drive.

[Clove]

Belicheat's a pretty smart coach. Even the way he cheats is pretty genius.

[Cowboys&LakersFan]

A seven yard power run for a touchdown.

When was the last time the Cowboys had a seven yard power run for a touchdown?

I think Murray had one against Buffalo.

[Bluestang]

A seven yard power run for a touchdown.

When was the last time the Cowboys had a seven yard power run for a touchdown?


It's been a while but Baltimore completely sold out to cover the pass so it made it that much easier for the Pats.

[jgboys1]

A seven yard power run for a touchdown.

When was the last time the Cowboys had a seven yard power run for a touchdown?

I think it was around 1995.

[Gemini Dolly]

Brady has had two big misses to his TEs and a pick yet his team is on top. LOL. Amazing.

[CowboysFanSince88]

she's my other girl...:)

She is "American Express" material LOL

[jgboys1]

Nice catch by Boldin.

[Bluestang]

The bang 8 Phill Simms?

[Cowboys&LakersFan]

Outstanding throw by Flacco and a nice job breaking tackles by Boldin.

[Cowboys&LakersFan]

Nice 2nd effort by Rice.

[The30YardSlant]

Rice with the nice run

[Cowboys&LakersFan]

Just like that it's a tie game.

[Clove]

The one thing I notice about teams that compete for the Super Bowl, is that they don't make a lot of stupid penalties. I mean, pre-snap, off side, delay. Not saying they won't get any of these, but I wish we could one of these years just clean that stuff up.

[Bluestang]

One of the Pats defenders, who had coverage responsibility in the middle, got caught looking at the QB instead of finding the TE Pitta open in the middle.

[Bluestang]

The one thing I notice about teams that compete for the Super Bowl, is that they don't make a lot of stupid penalties. I mean, pre-snap, off side, delay. Not saying they won't get any of these, but I wish we could one of these years just clean that stuff up.


Ladarius Webb nullified a Tom Brady pick by illegal contact that not only kept the Pats alive to score 3 pts but also gave them a first down on what was an original 3rd down. That's not dumb...smh.

[dboy214]

The one thing I notice about teams that compete for the Super Bowl, is that they don't make a lot of stupid penalties. I mean, pre-snap, off side, delay. Not saying they won't get any of these, but I wish we could one of these years just clean that stuff up.
can't remember the last time we had a disciplined team in dallas.

[Clove]

Nice pick play.

[dboy214]

i don't care what the statistics say, tom brady still has the best oline in football. it's been like this forever. jason needs to figure out what they are doing over there.

[Clove]

Ladarius Webb nullified a Tom Brady pick by illegal contact that not only kept the Pats alive to score 3 pts but also gave them a first down on what was an original 3rd down. That's not dumb...smh.Dumb penalties are penalties pre-snap. All penalties are bad, but some are just dumb. Personal foul after the play, hitting a QB late, things like that.

[Clove]

As bad as our defense was this year, we just know how to play the Pats.

[Bluestang]

i don't care what the statistics say, tom brady still has the best oline in football. it's been like this forever. jason needs to figure out what they are doing over there.


Dink and Dunk your way up the field?

[Doomsday]

As bad as our defense was this year, we just know how to play the Pats.

To bad our offensive doesnt take some queues from there's and throw more underneath routes to set up the deep throws.

[dboy214]

that looked like a catch.

[Hoofbite]

That looked like a catch.

[CowboysFanSince88]

FG's in a playoff game.........."never a good thing"

[Bluestang]

Dumb penalties are penalties pre-snap. All penalties are bad, but some are just dumb. Personal foul after the play, hitting a QB late, things like that.


That was a classic example of a sumb penalty. Situational football at its worst. 3rd and 10 and you make illegal contact?

[CowboysFanSince88]

Dink and Dunk your way up the field?

I hate that dink and dunk mess. I wish they expand it more down the field

[Clove]

To bad our offensive doesnt take some queues from there's and throw more underneath routes to set up the deep throws.You make a pretty good point. I think Garrett is a really 10 to 15 yard Coordinator, but not a real good short yardage coordinator. He did do a little more with his backs this year, but I think this is one area he needs to work on, or Callahan.

[dboy214]

Dink and Dunk your way up the field?
you think that explains it all?

[Cowboys&LakersFan]

Another FG. :banghead:

[IAMKING]

Pats

Thomas Brady

[Bluestang]

To bad our offensive doesnt take some queues from there's and throw more underneath routes to set up the deep throws.


The Pats have not really went deep yet.

[Clove]

I guess he lost that in the sun.

[jgboys1]

Wow! Wide open!

[Cowboys&LakersFan]

Flacco missed Smith. He would've scored.

[dboy214]

eli would have connected there.

[jgboys1]

I guess he lost that in the sun.

No! Cowboy Stadium lights.

[Gemini Dolly]

IDiot stopped running. That was a TD.

[Cowboys&LakersFan]

eli would have connected there.

Eli would've just thrown up a prayer and it would've been miraculously caught.

[kmp77]

IDiot stopped running. That was a TD.

Yup...he hesitated. He must be related to Crayton.

[Bluestang]

you think that explains it all?


The Pats have been using short high percentage throws and a hurry up tone to play this half. They have effectively limited the pass rush and have been able to get Baltimore to sell out on the pass entirely so they can run the ball.

That's a pretty darn good game plan.

[Clove]

That was a classic example of a sumb penalty. Situational football at its worst. 3rd and 10 and you make illegal contact?Not dumb, maybe the illegal contact prevented a TD at the time. Sometimes you have to do what you have to do. For example, sometimes a holding can prevent your QB from being put in the ICU.

[Clove]

Now THAT was a dumb penalty.

[jgboys1]

Eli would've just thrown up a prayer and it would've been miraculously caught.

The ball would have stuck to the WR helmet

[Bluestang]

False Start!!

[tupperware]

Must be nice to be an average QB and be in the Championship game.

[Bluestang]

Not dumb, maybe the illegal contact prevented a TD at the time. Sometimes you have to do what you have to do. For example, sometimes a holding can prevent your QB from being put in the ICU.


It would not have resulted in a TD.

[CowboysFanSince88]

Must be nice to be an average QB and be in the Championship game.

Flacco is slightly above average

[kmp77]

Must be nice to be an average QB and be in the Championship game.

Nice sig tupperware. I'm jealous :(

[dboy214]

#74 is a bum.

[tupperware]

Flacco is slightly above average
Okay fine, a hair above average.

[Clove]

It would not have resulted in a TD.Who gives a **** dude, it's my opinion that all penalties are bad, some are just dumb. Apparently you've never played ball before.

[kmp77]

Welker? Why take Edleman out?

[Clove]

Okay fine, a hair above average.I'll take an above average QB if it means getting to the SB. Heck, I'll take an above average QB to win some playoff games.

[Cowboys&LakersFan]

Flacco is slightly above average

:laugh2:

Dude is below average. No better than Sanchez.

[CowboysFanSince88]

Smart decision by the Pats, they get the ball first after the half and they are on the 10yd line. No point in throwing a INT and giving the ball back to the Ravens

[Cowboys&LakersFan]

*** why are they kneeling it?

[dboy214]

harbaugh pulled a garrett there. use your timeouts and make them punt it.

[tupperware]

I'll take an above average QB if it means getting to the SB. Heck, I'll take an above average QB to win some playoff games.
Which is why I said it must be nice.

[CowboysFanSince88]

:laugh2:

Dude is below average. No better than Sanchez.

He has 4 playoff wins. Laugh at that

[Bluestang]

Who gives a **** dude, it's my opinion that all penalties are bad, some are just dumb. Apparently you've never played ball before.


I'm just making the point that Baltimore had a dumb penalty that negated a pick and gave the Pats a fresh set of downs. That same penalty if it were the Cowboys some fans here would be livid.

[CowboysFanSince88]

*** why are they kneeling it?

1. On their own 10yd line
2. 58 secs left
3. they get the ball 1st after the half


Add all that up and you get a KNEEL

[The30YardSlant]

Jared Allen :laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2:

[Bluestang]

1. On their own 10yd line
2. 58 secs left
3. they get the ball 1st after the half


Add all that up and you get a KNEEL


I would also like to add that the Pats have yet to throw deep and have been dinking and dunking their way up the field. 58 seconds is just not enough time for them to get into scoring position using that strategy.

[tupperware]

I'm just making the point that Baltimore had a dumb penalty that negated a pick and gave the Pats a fresh set of downs. That same penalty if it were the Cowboys some fans here would be livid.
Maybe, but getting far in to the playoffs sure would make it sting a lot less. There is a difference between being a stupid team and being a perennially stupid team, we're the latter.

[Clove]

I'm just making the point that Baltimore had a dumb penalty that negated a pick and gave the Pats a fresh set of downs. That same penalty if it were the Cowboys some fans here would be livid.It's a bad penalty, and THAT'S my opinion. Any play can result in a TD, if the guy is making illegal contact on every play, you may have a point, but he's only been called once. And actually, most plays people are holding, making illegal contact, hands to the face, I'm willing to bet you can call a penalty on every play, so then everyone on the field is dumb in this case because I see penalties every snap.

Keep arguing, but you can do it alone.

[kmp77]

1. On their own 10yd line
2. 58 secs left
3. they get the ball 1st after the half


Add all that up and you get a KNEEL

Kinda obvious if you know football.

[CowboysFanSince88]

I would also like to add that the Pats have yet to throw deep and have been dinking and dunking their way up the field. 58 seconds is just not enough time for them to get into scoring position using that strategy.

Being that deep in your own territory and trying to pass is risky so that's why they decided to wait until after the half

[cruz_aedo861]

Okay fine, a hair above average.

Flacco is a Fum Manchu above average.

[Mr Cowboy]

espn_macmahon Tim MacMahon
Ravens picked stud CB Lardarius Webb in the 2009 3rd round -- after Cowboys picked pair of busts, LB Jason Williams and OT Robert Brewster.

[Bluestang]

It's a bad penalty, and THAT'S my opinion. Any play can result in a TD, if the guy is making illegal contact on every play, you may have a point, but he's only been called once. And actually, most plays people are holding, making illegal contact, hands to the face, I'm willing to bet you can call a penalty on every play, so then everyone on the field is dumb in this case because I see penalties every snap.

Keep arguing, but you can do it alone.


LOL...got your panties all wadded up?

[tupperware]

espn_macmahon Tim MacMahon
Ravens picked stud CB Lardarius Webb in the 2009 3rd round -- after Cowboys picked pair of busts, LB Jason Williams and OT Robert Brewster.
The "Cowboy" Way.

[Bluestang]

espn_macmahon Tim MacMahon
Ravens picked stud CB Lardarius Webb in the 2009 3rd round -- after Cowboys picked pair of busts, LB Jason Williams and OT Robert Brewster.


Wade Phillips pick = Jason Williams

I have no idea on Brewster...2009 draft strikes again.

[Bluestang]

Does anyone know what Brian Waters got paid in NE? Not being able to financially compete in FA last year definitely hurt us.

[jazzcat22]

espn_macmahon Tim MacMahon
Ravens picked stud CB Lardarius Webb in the 2009 3rd round -- after Cowboys picked pair of busts, LB Jason Williams and OT Robert Brewster.


How many other teams passed on Webb too, McMahon....

[CowboysFanSince88]

Halftime in the NFL is TOO SHORT. Is it like 7 mins? Damm

[Clove]

Not a fan of the 3 man rush.

[Bluestang]

Baltimore can't figure out a way to stop Brady...they blitzed and he burned them. They try a 3 man rush and Brady still carves them up.

[Clove]

Ngata needs to never leave the field.

[nake]

Brewster looked like a marshmallow

[Cowboys&LakersFan]

Halftime in the NFL is TOO SHORT. Is it like 7 mins? Damm

It's about 15.

[Clove]

Is Hernandez that fast?

[Bluestang]

PA to gronkowski?

[ScipioCowboy]

In terms of how they use their personnel, the Patriots are on a level that is so far above everyone else. It's reminiscent of Landry during his glory years.

[Cowboys&LakersFan]

Pats are short again another FG.

[Clove]

Dumb. The kicks not dumb, the play before was, IMO.

[ScipioCowboy]

How many other teams passed on Webb too, McMahon....

It's not so much that the Cowboys passed on Webb. It's that the players picked before him were total busts.

[CowboysFanSince88]

Stupid decision by the PATS

you go for it and get it and score, game over. By kicking the FG, you are keeping the ravens in the game.

[2233boys]

Ray Lewis is a liability. He looks slow

[Bluestang]

In terms of how they use their personnel, the Patriots are on a level that is so far above everyone else. It's reminiscent of Landry during his glory years.


They have guys that can do it all, but you have to admire the two TEs they have. When Gronkowski is blanketed, Hernandez can step in and be a reliable number two guy. Those two put so much stress on defenses is awesome to watch.

[Clove]

In terms of how they use their personnel, the Patriots are on a level that is so far above everyone else. It's reminiscent of Landry during his glory years.And actually, the line is really not coming in to play in the passing game, more so in the running game. Brady is getting the ball out lightning fast so really that negates any pass rush.

Who ever is designing this offense is pretty smart.

[CowboysFanSince88]

It's about 15.

Its defintely not 15, I went to the store across the street and came back and the game was on again. It needs to be 20 mins

[Cowboys&LakersFan]

Stupid decision by the PATS

you go for it and get it and score, game over. By kicking the FG, you are keeping the ravens in the game.

:laugh2:

Going up 10 puts them in a good position, but game would still be far from over.

[CowboysFanSince88]

:laugh2:

I been looking at football long enough to know that FG's set you up to lose

[CowboysFanSince88]

:laugh2:

Going up 10 puts them in a good position, but game would still be far from over.

Being up 10 would have had Flacco throwing more which is a higher chance of turnovers. Since they are only down 6, Ravens knew they didn't have to panic and could still run the ball

[jblaze2004]

Wade Phillips pick = Jason Williams

I have no idea on Brewster...2009 draft strikes again.

on draft day when they said we picked brewster I was like:bang2: :banghead: I knew he wouldn't amount to nothing. He was a lazy fat player that was weak. Not a good combo.

[Bluestang]

on draft day when they said we picked brewster I was like:bang2: :banghead: I knew he wouldn't amount to nothing. He was a lazy fat player that was weak. Not a good combo.


I said this before and I'll say it again...the 2009 draft set us back a few years.

[ScipioCowboy]

Wade Phillips pick = Jason Williams

I have no idea on Brewster...2009 draft strikes again.

2009 and 1995 are vying for the inauspicious distinction of Worst Draft in Cowboys History.

[CowboysFanSince88]

Flacco is playing pretty good today to receive so much criticism

[Clove]

Very patient Offensive coordinator on the Ravens.

[StylisticS]

Td Ravens.

[Bluestang]

Did I just see a QB run down the clock to 1 second and throw a pass?

[Cowboys&LakersFan]

Awful tackling.

[TheCoolFan]

Flacco is tuned in right now! Wow this is the best I've ever seen him

[nake]

Refs missed a big facemask on the receiver.

[Clove]

Nice pressure breaking play.

[Cowboys&LakersFan]

BS call he was clearly out of bounds.

[CowboysFanSince88]

And by the Pats kicking a FG, they are now LOSING. Like i said FG's set you up to lose the game. So what will they do if they get a 4th and short again? Kick another FG to make it 19-17?

[Doomsday]

BS call he was clearly out of bounds.

Par for the course with the refs this season.

[Clove]

Awful tackling.He just got juked out, it happens sometimes. He tried to hold the receiver to no gain, and underestimated how fast the pass got there, the receiver knew he would take a direct hit on him, and spun to the outside in hopes that the DBs momentum would slide through, and it worked.

[Hoofbite]

And by the Pats kicking a FG, they are now LOSING. Like i said FG's set you up to lose the game. So what will they do if they get a 4th and short again? Kick another FG to make it 19-17?

That would be enough to win the game with a defensive hold, wouldn't it?

[Hoofbite]

BS call he was clearly out of bounds.

Too close to tell.

That's why he said "stands" instead of "confirmed".

[Dash28]

Huge fumble.

[CowboysFanSince88]

Game over, Ravens just recovered a Fumble

Time for the Giants game

[Cowboys&LakersFan]

Fumble Baltimore recovers.

[Clove]

I love the patience of the Ravens offense. 3 yards is under rated in the Garrett offense.

[ScipioCowboy]

Is the Super Bowl really going to be a rematch of that awful Niners/Ravens game on Thanksgiving?

It would serve the NFL right for keeping the Cowboys in submission for so long!

[dboy214]

leggggo ravens!!!

[StylisticS]

How'd they get the ball back? Lol

[CowboysFanSince88]

That would be enough to win the game with a defensive hold, wouldn't it?

I don't care nothing about defensive holds, you have to score TD's in the playoffs.

[StylisticS]

Game over, Ravens just recovered a Fumble

Time for the Giants game

Oh i see but come on. There Is one full quarter to go.

[ScipioCowboy]

I love the patience of the Ravens offense. 3 yards is under rated in the Garrett offense.

The Ravens aren't even in this game if not for their defense.

Patience on offense is a luxury reserved for teams with elite defenses.

[CowboysFanSince88]

Flacco is gaining more confidence

[Clove]

I have rarely seen the Ravens go a possession without running the ball.

[dboy214]

damn flacco! missed the fullback!!! :mad::mad::mad:

[yimyammer]

I love the patience of the Ravens offense. 3 yards is under rated in the Garrett offense.

If Dallas had the Ravens D, they could be more patient

[CowboysFanSince88]

Oh i see but come on. There Is one full quarter to go.

Ravens just put MO in the game and when MO comes in the game it's usually over but we will see.

[Cowboys&LakersFan]

Game over, Ravens just recovered a Fumble

Time for the Giants game

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[Bluestang]

OMG Flacco had like 1 second to throw he held onto the ball for too long!!!

[Dash28]

OMG Flacco had like 1 second to throw he held onto the ball for too long!!!
Leave Joe Cool alone!

:laugh2:

[Clove]

The Ravens aren't even in this game if not for their defense.

Patience on offense is a luxury reserved for teams with elite defenses.I don't see anything elite out there, they're good, not elite. Plus, patience is about not going for 15 on every play. If you get 3, then 2, then you'll only need 5 yards for the 1st down, vs 10 yards, or a sack/false start for 15 or more.

I just hate that Garrett and Romo are always waiting for the big play to unfold, meanwhile, there are guys running around wide open short.

[ScipioCowboy]

What's really impressive is that the Patriots are down by only four despite being -2 in turnovers.

[Hoofbite]

I don't care nothing about defensive holds, you have to score TD's in the playoffs.

So now what happens? The Pats win while taking FGs?

Pats lose with the Ravens not going for the TD?

[jblaze2004]

I said this before and I'll say it again...the 2009 draft set us back a few years.

I guess that's what happens when you draft for special team players and back ups:bang2: Traded out of the second round for nothing.

we had one of the worst draft grades in the nfl in 2009. Thanks wade and jerry.

[Clove]

If Dallas had the Ravens D, they could be more patientIf Dallas had Brady, we wouldn't give a crap about our Defense. Wanna keep playing the "IF" game?

[ScipioCowboy]

I don't see anything elite out there, they're good, not elite. Plus, patience is about not going for 15 on every play. If you get 3, then 2, then you'll only need 5 yards for the 1st down, vs 10 yards, or a sack/false start for 15 or more.

I just hate that Garrett and Romo are always waiting for the big play to unfold, meanwhile, there are guys running around wide open short.

The Ravens are third in total defense and third in points allowed.

They're elite.

[Cowboys&LakersFan]

Nice return.

[Bluestang]

So now what happens? The Pats win while taking FGs?

Pats lose with the Ravens not going for the TD?


You beat me to it....haha some people need to chill out and just watch the game instead of saying "bah FG...game is over now".

[Vintage]

Ravens just put MO in the game and when MO comes in the game it's usually over but we will see.

But the Ravens just kicked a field goal, so clearly, they are going to lose.

[Dash28]

If Dallas had Brady, we wouldn't give a crap about our Defense. Wanna keep playing the "IF" game?
Brady would have been killed behind our line.

[jblaze2004]

gronk looks to hurt the ankle

[dboy214]

demarco murray tackle.

[StylisticS]

Oh man.

[Cowboys&LakersFan]

Ouch.

[yimyammer]

Ouch! That looked painful..

[TheCoolFan]

Pollard is a Pats Killer! :eek:

[Vintage]

The Ravens are third in total defense and third in points allowed.

They're elite.

Derp de derp. 3rd isn't elite. Only top 2 1/3 are elite.

[ScipioCowboy]

If Dallas had Brady, we wouldn't give a crap about our Defense. Wanna keep playing the "IF" game?

Brady is 18 of 29 for 210 yard with a pick.

[Cowboys&LakersFan]

Offsides takes away the pick.

[StylisticS]

He was walking pretty good.

[CowboysFanSince88]

But the Ravens just kicked a field goal, so clearly, they are going to lose.

Now you are talking CRAZY. Did the Ravens have a 4th and 1???? They had to kick a FG.

[Cowboys&LakersFan]

Now you are talking CRAZY. Did the Ravens have a 4th and 1???? They had to kick a FG.

Dude that was a long inch the Pats needed they could've very easily failed to converted and come away empty handed.

[Bluestang]

Brady is 18 of 29 for 210 yard with a pick.


Brady has not played well at all today. He also has missed on a few wide open throws today.

[CowboysFanSince88]

Now the pats are in a position where they have to get a TD because of ALL THE FG's

[Clove]

I guess the Ravens Defense is no better than ours, since they just casually moved down the field just like teams did on Dallas.

[ScipioCowboy]

Heres come play action.

[CowboysFanSince88]

Dude that was a long inch the Pats needed they could've very easily failed to converted and come away empty handed.


And if they come away empty handed the Ravens have to drive 95 yds and the Pats are still winning? Understand what i'm trying to explain to you??

[Clove]

The Ravens are third in total defense and third in points allowed.

They're elite.ELITE, yeah man, you should be an observer of football exclusively.

[StylisticS]

Is the game still over since the Ravens took the MO.

[Bluestang]

Brady is short there.

[Vintage]

Is the game still over since the Ravens took the MO.

Depends on their field goal kicker.

[Dash28]

Brady is short there.
Yes he is.

[yimyammer]

If Dallas had Brady, we wouldn't give a crap about our Defense. Wanna keep playing the "IF" game?

I wasn't attacking you, just stating my opinion, if you disagree, fine and dandy.

FWIW, I don't think Brady would have near the same success in Dallas, but that's just my opinion

[CowboysFanSince88]

Is the game still over since the Ravens took the MO.


Here is the game, 4th and Goal

[Clove]

I wasn't attacking you, just stating my opinion, if you disagree, fine and dandy.

FWIW, I don't think Brady would have near the same success in Dallas, but that's just my opinionHe would have MORE. He has a legit running game, and amazing RUN AFTER CATCH players. Brady would be almost GOD-LIKE here in Dallas.

[tupperware]

Guy is a beast.

[StylisticS]

Man the way brady landed was scary.

[jblaze2004]

brady got smacked

[Cowboys&LakersFan]

Brady got it.

[TheCoolFan]

Easyyyyy. Ellis would've had it on 3rd down too but he didn't want to reach out with the ball

[ScipioCowboy]

Man the way brady landed was scary.

Yeah.

That was awkward.

[CowboysFanSince88]

I was hoping they were not going to kick a FG on 4th and goal

That would have been real feminine

[jblaze2004]

flaaco didn't look like he wanted to go back out there...lol

[Dash28]

He would have MORE. He has a legit running game, and amazing RUN AFTER CATCH players. Brady would be almost GOD-LIKE here in Dallas.
Brady wouldn't survive all the free rushers that Romo escapes.

[Gemini Dolly]

Ouch. Brady. Thats gonna hurt later.

[Clove]

Brady wouldn't survive all the free rushers that Romo escapes.Because the ball would be out quick, and the receivers would be running down the sideline for a TD.

[jblaze2004]

Brady wouldn't survive all the free rushers that Romo escapes.

this.....people seem to forget romo says hike dodge a rusher, spins and throws off his back foot to robinson, he was gonna go to dez but was like what da heck is dez running :laugh2:

[Bluestang]

The RAVENS OFFENSE:

23.6 Pts for 12th in the league
338.7 total yds for 15th in the league
213.9 pass yds for 19th in the league
124.8 rush yds for 10th in the league

The RAVENS DEFENSE:
16.6 Pts for 3rd in the league
288.9 total yds for 3rd in the league
196.2 pass yds for 4th in the league
92.6 rush yds for 2nd in the league


Looks to me based on THESE facts here that the Ravens D is pretty damn good, even elite in my eyes. The offense on the other hand has been riding the coat tails of Ray Rice in spite of Flacco's pedestrian passing stats.

[yimyammer]

He would have MORE. He has a legit running game, and amazing RUN AFTER CATCH players. Brady would be almost GOD-LIKE here in Dallas.

I'd love to have him, too bad it's a pipe dream/moot point