Trade up into the top 10 for an elite corner

[TheRat]

According to the trade value chart the 7th pick is worth 1500 point and our 1st and 2nd pick is worth 1550 points. Would you use a first and a second to trade up to get an elite player like Dre Kirkpatrick?

[iceberg]

According to the trade value chart the 7th pick is worth 1500 point and our 1st and 2nd pick is worth 1550 points. Would you use a first and a second to trade up to get an elite player like Dre Kirkpatrick?

no....

[Future]

The only way I do that is if Claiborne drops to 8 or 9 and I can still be sure somehow that I can move up far enough again to get DeCastro or Glenn.

Very, very low chance without 2 second rounders.

[poost]

No matter what the 14th pick will have a solid player, so I don't see the point in trading up.

[RoyTheHammer]

According to the trade value chart the 7th pick is worth 1500 point and our 1st and 2nd pick is worth 1550 points. Would you use a first and a second to trade up to get an elite player like Dre Kirkpatrick?

First off.. no.

Secondly, Dre isn't even a lock to go top 20.

Finally, i wouldn't call him an elite corner. Claiborne and Jenkins are both more talented CB's than he is, and that's just guys in this draft. I don't think he'll be an elite corner in the NFL and if we do any trading with that 14 pick it better be down to pick up another late first or early second.

[Cowboys&LakersFan]

According to the trade value chart the 7th pick is worth 1500 point and our 1st and 2nd pick is worth 1550 points. Would you use a first and a second to trade up to get an elite player like Dre Kirkpatrick?

What makes you think he's elite?

[Marktui]

No, we lose a pick in the second round, #46. I would rather stay where we are at or move down no more than 5 picks and gain an extra 2nd. We need players.

[rocyaice]

Wait...what? That "point value" system is ridiculous. What was the point value of us getting Tyron Smith and Bruce Carter last year in the 1st and 2nd round and traded them for the #3 pick which ended up being Marcell Dareus? Good player but how can you reason giving up 1 pick for two?

[M'Kevon]

No. This team is more than 1 corner short.

[Dash28]

No on Dre.

Would think about it for Clai.

[Sarge]

This team has so many holes to fill, the last thing I would do is trade up and give away picks. Not this year.

If ANYTHING, I'd consider trading down (and obtain more picks) this year depending how things unfold.

[Hostile]

Yes, what we really need on this team is to trade up for a guy who will probably be there when we take him because he put smoking marijuana above character right before the draft evaluation process gets started. That is how you win in the NFL, by taking players who cannot prioritize their lives and place an innocuous activity with an illegal drug higher on their personal list. I want players who think it is better to smoke weed than it is to prepare for a career that can be interrupted by said smoking. [/sarcasm]

[rathalarge]

According to the trade value chart the 7th pick is worth 1500 point and our 1st and 2nd pick is worth 1550 points. Would you use a first and a second to trade up to get an elite player like Dre Kirkpatrick?
NO! I'd be surprised if Kirkpatrick went before #16 with this recent incident.

[Hostile]

NO! I'd be surprised if Kirkpatrick went before #16 with this recent incident.I won't be shocked if he falls all the way out of round 1.

[rathalarge]

I won't be shocked if he falls all the way out of round 1.
That too!! :bow:

[GloryDaysRBack]

I wouldn't trade up for Claiborne, let alone Kirkpatrick

[casmith07]

No because you usually have to overspend for a premium pick. Our 1 and 2 wouldn't do it.

[dhaber]

I would say no. As many have said, too many holes to fill on this team. I really don't think that we can fill all the holes this year alone. I believe it will be a two year process at best. If we do a good job this year we might be competitive enough to get into the playoffs next year but everyone else is looking at the same good players that we are. This will not be an easy fix. I hope I'm wrong but........

[Bowdown27]

I'd trade up for Claiborne but not for Kirkpatrick. I like dre but I'm not trading up for him.

[Apollo Creed]

Jenkins is the only one I really like. MC will be gone, Dre won't be on our board because we've taken the choir boy route as of late. (Why guys like Percy Harvin, Brandon Flowers, and Desean Jackson were off our draft boards)

Jenkins also has character issues, but I think he's the guy that best fits out scheme and will be in a reachable area, hopefully his weed issues are far enough behind him for Dallas to take a chance.

Because as much as I like high character, team captains, etc - you gotta have a few bad boys on your squad too. Right now the only one we got is Dez Bryant.

That's why I hope we don't scratch off guys like Burfict, Kirkpatrick, Jenkins, etc - because those guys can play ball.

[visionary]

in the top half of round 1, the only positions you even trade up for are:

franchise QB
elite LT
elite DE/OLB

given our current situation, no way would i trade up

stay where we are and pick the best available or
trade down no more than 10 spots (if we are offered a 2)

[zrinkill]

Would you use a first and a second to trade up to get an elite player like Dre Kirkpatrick?

I bet this guy complains about Jerry Jones deals.

:laugh2:

[ufcrules1]

I'd trade up for Claiborne but not for Kirkpatrick. I like dre but I'm not trading up for him.

This right here. ^^^ Claiborne is elite and worth trading up for. Dre.. not so much.

[Doomsday101]

The only way I do that is if Claiborne drops to 8 or 9 and I can still be sure somehow that I can move up far enough again to get DeCastro or Glenn.

Very, very low chance without 2 second rounders.

I agree. If I have to move up to get a CB then Claiborne would be the only guy I would do that with. I like Kirkpatrick and if he slides to the Cowboys great but I'm not giving up 2 picks for him

[burmafrd]

If Claiborne drops down to 8 or 9, it is because someone found something out about him that significantly lessens his value. You then have to wonder if you want to use picks to move up that far for him.

[Risen Star]

no....

Seconded.

[JackWagon]

I really dont like gambling with our first pick ... and esp not gambling with 2 picks to get up there. the corners who you would even possibly be looking at getting are :

Claiborne
Kirkpatrick
Jenkins

2 of the 3 are stupid enough to get in trouble with marajuana. If you really wanna gamble just sit at 14 and take the Corner that falls to you there instead of trading up.

I just HATE gambling with a first round pick when we have SO MANY slots to fill. You could pick O line or D line at 14 which would help this team a lot more than gambling on a Headache type player. I complain already about Bryant and both Kirkpatrick and Jenkins have been in way more trouble than Bryant has. I think both Kirkpatrick and Jenkins are all shiny right now but in the long run are not worth the hassle.

[garyv]

No reason to trade up in this Draft for a Corner....if you need one that bad @ #14 one will be there but I would rather take DeCastro @ 14 than if there's a need to trade up in the 2nd Round I would for Jenkins.

[erod]

One corner changes almost nothing. Instead of the typical Jerry-like patchwork, let's be awesome on one side of the ball. We're closest on offense.

Spend this offseason completing the offensive line, and be dominant there. The skill players are already pretty good.

It works for the Saints, Packers, and Patriots. It worked for the Colts for years.

[JonJon]

Jenkins is the only one I really like. MC will be gone, Dre won't be on our board because we've taken the choir boy route as of late. (Why guys like Percy Harvin, Brandon Flowers, and Desean Jackson were off our draft boards)

Jenkins also has character issues, but I think he's the guy that best fits out scheme and will be in a reachable area, hopefully his weed issues are far enough behind him for Dallas to take a chance.

Because as much as I like high character, team captains, etc - you gotta have a few bad boys on your squad too. Right now the only one we got is Dez Bryant.

That's why I hope we don't scratch off guys like Burfict, Kirkpatrick, Jenkins, etc - because those guys can play ball.
I agree with this and would rather have Jenkins. I just think that the Cowboys will overlook Kirkpatrick's marijuana issue and draft him if he is available because of his physicality. I also think Jones still rues the day he passed on Randy Moss.

But like others have said, he will probably be there at 14 so no need to trade up if he is the guy the team likes.

[rocyaice]

Jenkins is the only one I really like. MC will be gone, Dre won't be on our board because we've taken the choir boy route as of late. (Why guys like Percy Harvin, Brandon Flowers, and Desean Jackson were off our draft boards)

Jenkins also has character issues, but I think he's the guy that best fits out scheme and will be in a reachable area, hopefully his weed issues are far enough behind him for Dallas to take a chance.

Because as much as I like high character, team captains, etc - you gotta have a few bad boys on your squad too. Right now the only one we got is Dez Bryant.

That's why I hope we don't scratch off guys like Burfict, Kirkpatrick, Jenkins, etc - because those guys can play ball.

Well that "choir boy" approach is working because Harvin and Jackson aren't guys I could say we missed out on. Not to mention Harvin has migraine's every preseason and Desean is a idiot.

[respectdatstar]

Jenkins is the only one I really like. MC will be gone, Dre won't be on our board because we've taken the choir boy route as of late. (Why guys like Percy Harvin, Brandon Flowers, and Desean Jackson were off our draft boards)

Jenkins also has character issues, but I think he's the guy that best fits out scheme and will be in a reachable area, hopefully his weed issues are far enough behind him for Dallas to take a chance.

Because as much as I like high character, team captains, etc - you gotta have a few bad boys on your squad too. Right now the only one we got is Dez Bryant.

That's why I hope we don't scratch off guys like Burfict, Kirkpatrick, Jenkins, etc - because those guys can play ball.

I think we could trade back to the early 20s, get another 2nd and take Jenkins in that early 20s pick. A DE/OLB with our pick in the 2nd and Burfict with the newly acquired 2nd. The intensity he brings on D is unreal.

[burmafrd]

we NEED bad boys? Why?

We DON'T need druggies at all.


And Jerruh, with Hurd in the back of his mind, won't take a chance on one.

[RoyTheHammer]

Jenkins is the only one I really like. MC will be gone, Dre won't be on our board because we've taken the choir boy route as of late. (Why guys like Percy Harvin, Brandon Flowers, and Desean Jackson were off our draft boards)

Jenkins also has character issues, but I think he's the guy that best fits out scheme and will be in a reachable area, hopefully his weed issues are far enough behind him for Dallas to take a chance.

Because as much as I like high character, team captains, etc - you gotta have a few bad boys on your squad too. Right now the only one we got is Dez Bryant.

That's why I hope we don't scratch off guys like Burfict, Kirkpatrick, Jenkins, etc - because those guys can play ball.

So you think we'd cross Dre off our board, but not Jenkins? Makes no sense, but ok.

[respectdatstar]

No reason to trade up in this Draft for a Corner....if you need one that bad @ #14 one will be there but I would rather take DeCastro @ 14 than if there's a need to trade up in the 2nd Round I would for Jenkins.

DeCastro was already taken.

[the_h0wey]

The only way I do that is if Claiborne drops to 8 or 9 and I can still be sure somehow that I can move up far enough again to get DeCastro or Glenn.

Very, very low chance without 2 second rounders.

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