ESPND: Roster cuts can begin today

[Mr Cowboy]

Cornerback Terence Newman has been in the crosshairs since before the 2011 season ended. The Cowboys can save at least $4 million in cap room by releasing Newman. If he is designated a post-June 1 cut, the Cowboys would save $6 million in space but create $2 million in dead money in 2013.

http://espn.go.com/blog/dallas/cowboys/post/_/id/4689965/roster-cuts-can-begin-today

[TheCoolFan]

If things go right, it should be a VERY happy day or next few weeks at least. Liberation! :bow:

[Bowdown27]

I doubt anything happens today but we will see in the next couple days

[casmith07]

I doubt anything happens today but we will see in the next couple days

Yeah not sure if the team has even conducted this year's exit interviews.

[1fisher]

Yeah not sure if the team has even conducted this year's exit interviews.

It seems like I read that exit interviews had been conducted a few weeks ago. Shortly after the season ended.

[RS12]

He'll be cut June 1

[casmith07]

It seems like I read that exit interviews had been conducted a few weeks ago. Shortly after the season ended.

Might not see cuts today unless it's an outright obvious cut, like Marion Barber was last year.

You generally want to wait until closer to the draft...no need to tip your hand on where you're looking in the draft by cutting a bunch of CBs.

[casmith07]

He'll be cut June 1

I tend to agree. I think most cuts of our guys will occur late April or in May.

[Picksix]

Yeah not sure if the team has even conducted this year's exit interviews.

Pro teams almost always do it within the first day or two after the season. Players take off for vacations, or go home. Either way, they spread out all over the place, and it's too hard to get them done after that.

[1fisher]

Might not see cuts today unless it's an outright obvious cut, like Marion Barber was last year.

You generally want to wait until closer to the draft...no need to tip your hand on where you're looking in the draft by cutting a bunch of CBs.

Agreed... it may be a few days before we hear some movement.

[Picksix]

If things go right, it should be a VERY happy day or next few weeks at least. Liberation! :bow:

I understand the jubilation, but it's kind of bittersweet for me. I'm all for letting go of dead weight, but the more you have to let go, the more you have to replace. And it means the more areas where improvement is needed.

Now, if you have the players in place to do that, fine. Hopefully we will over the next 3 months.

[AdamJT13]

He'll be cut June 1

Jerry wouldn't do that. He'd cut him now and designate him a June 2 cut. For cap purposes, it's the same thing as cutting him on June 2, but the player isn't stuck in limbo.

[casmith07]

Jerry wouldn't do that. He'd cut him now and designate him a June 2 cut. For cap purposes, it's the same thing as cutting him on June 2, but the player isn't stuck in limbo.

What are the savings in designating him a June 1 cut versus June 2?

[dmq]

Too bad Newman wouldn't accept a backup role here.

[casmith07]

Too bad Newman wouldn't accept a backup role here.

You never know. I would absolutely like to keep him for a restructured deal in a backup capacity. With his age, he'd make a great nickel CB and would be able to stay fresher longer since he lost most of his wheels at the end of last season.

He's not the kind of guy to just dog it out there, especially with the playoffs on the line.

But, you're more than likely right. I don't think he'll accept that.

[AdamJT13]

What are the savings in designating him a June 1 cut versus June 2?

If you are referring to the difference between June 1 and June 2, the actual date when future prorations don't accelerate into the current season is June 2, not June 1. If the NFL processes the cut on June 1, all future bonus prorations accelerate into the current season. If the cut is processed on June 2, then all future prorations accelerate into the following season, and only the current season's proration counts for that season.

Many teams will announce cuts on June 1, but they don't submit them to the NFL until after the NFL office closes for the day or until June 1. They can, however, cut up to two players before that and designate them as June 2 cuts. Then the players are free to sign elsewhere, but their cap hits remain unchanged until June 2.

Here's the part of the CBA that applies --


(1) For any player removed from the Team’s roster, or whose Contract is assigned to another Club via waivers or trade, on or before June 1 in any League Year prior to the Final League Year, or at any time during the Final League Year, any unamortized signing bonus amounts will be included in Team Salary for such League Year, except that for each League Year preceding the Final League Year, each Club may designate up to two Player Contracts that, if terminated on or prior to June 1 and if not renegotiated after the last regular season game of the prior League Year, shall be treated (except to the extent prescribed by Section 6(d)(iv) below) as if terminated on June 2, i.e., the Salary Cap charge for each such contract will remain in the Club’s Team Salary until June 2, at which time its Paragraph 5 Salary and any unearned LTBE incentives will no longer be counted and any unamortized signing bonus will be treated as set forth in Subsection (2) below.

[SDogo]

Too bad Newman wouldn't accept a backup role here.

Backup to the backup is only role for him I want to see.

[Cowboy Junkie]

What are the savings in designating him a June 1 cut versus June 2?

I agree. If nothing else Mr. Jones has shown he is very fair with the players, understands and tries very hard to make things as easy on a players exit as possible and real nice quality in him.

[Aven8]

Backup to the backup is only role for him I want to see.

I agree. Frank Walker, Ball, Newman. The guy is toast!

[AdamJT13]

Many teams will announce cuts on June 1, but they don't submit them to the NFL until after the NFL office closes for the day or until June 1.

Oops, that bolded part should say June 2.

[AMERICAS_FAN]

It seems like I read that exit interviews had been conducted a few weeks ago. Shortly after the season ended.

The Giants did a good job of conducting the exit interviews for us.

[cowboyeric8]

I wish Newman the best, he was a good player for us for many years. I said good not great.

[CarlAllDay]

Goodbye Terrence! I really don't want to see him in a cowboys Jersey ever again! If we can cut emmitt we can definitely cut Newman! That giants game was downright disgraceful!

[realtick]

"Terence Newman is our best cornerback."


:bow:

[Future]

"Terence Newman is our best cornerback."


:bow:
To be fair, he was flirting with an All-Pro type of season through the first 9 weeks or so.

[cowboy_ron]

He'll be cut June 1
exactly, it would be shooting ourself in the foot to cut him before then

[casmith07]

If you are referring to the difference between June 1 and June 2, the actual date when future prorations don't accelerate into the current season is June 2, not June 1. If the NFL processes the cut on June 1, all future bonus prorations accelerate into the current season. If the cut is processed on June 2, then all future prorations accelerate into the following season, and only the current season's proration counts for that season.

Many teams will announce cuts on June 1, but they don't submit them to the NFL until after the NFL office closes for the day or until June 1. They can, however, cut up to two players before that and designate them as June 2 cuts. Then the players are free to sign elsewhere, but their cap hits remain unchanged until June 2.

Here's the part of the CBA that applies --


(1) For any player removed from the Team’s roster, or whose Contract is assigned to another Club via waivers or trade, on or before June 1 in any League Year prior to the Final League Year, or at any time during the Final League Year, any unamortized signing bonus amounts will be included in Team Salary for such League Year, except that for each League Year preceding the Final League Year, each Club may designate up to two Player Contracts that, if terminated on or prior to June 1 and if not renegotiated after the last regular season game of the prior League Year, shall be treated (except to the extent prescribed by Section 6(d)(iv) below) as if terminated on June 2, i.e., the Salary Cap charge for each such contract will remain in the Club’s Team Salary until June 2, at which time its Paragraph 5 Salary and any unearned LTBE incentives will no longer be counted and any unamortized signing bonus will be treated as set forth in Subsection (2) below.

Thanks, Adam - great info there.

I imagine we would just designate him June 1, and get the cap hit out of the way this year plus the dead money since we're anticipating upwards of $20M in cap space this off-season.

[ninja]

To be fair, he was flirting with an All-Pro type of season through the first 9 weeks or so.

Yeah, right. He was absolutely awesome the first couple of weeks this year...on the bench for a supposed injury.

[The30YardSlant]

"Terence Newman is our best cornerback."


:bow:

He played arguably the best football of his career the first half of the season, then he just fell off the face of the eart.

[Flinger]

You never know. I would absolutely like to keep him for a restructured deal in a backup capacity. With his age, he'd make a great nickel CB and would be able to stay fresher longer since he lost most of his wheels at the end of last season.

He's not the kind of guy to just dog it out there, especially with the playoffs on the line.

But, you're more than likely right. I don't think he'll accept that.
In the past, I would agree. But, after watching him make a "business decision" in the Giants game, I must admit, I am questioning whether he is one of those "cancers" in the camp.

Without question, he has lost a step. But, it was in the 3rd quarter I believe, when a pass or run made it to the right sideline (simply can't remember - and didn't want to go back through the torture again). The mid field camera showed the runner turning it upfield. After making it through a couple of tacklers, he burst for about 5 to 10 more yards until someone brought him down. The camera showed Newman trotting toward the sideline - watching. When the runner broke free the 1st line of defense - his head swiveled to his left to make sure someone was there to tackle him. If he were a beast, he would have (and, based upon the distance - could have) popped that guy as soon as he released. Instead, he actually held up and watched him run by. It was really hard to believe. Talking about 'No Heart'... Wow. Don't even want a guy like that on the team.

Not sure if he has always played like that - but, where is the attitude like the Giants have? The 49er's? The Patriots (did you see their DB's popping people)? The whole time he has been here - he just hasn't broken through to that elite level. Why? He had the physical attributes. He might just be one of the reasons this team doesn't compete. No heart.