Name That Player...

[realtick]

Every year around this time we love to remind other draftniks of arm-chair scouting prowess by naming some player that you were right about from sometime back.

Let's go a different direction and name a player (or two) that you were completely wrong about after proclaiming their impending success.

Here my guy off the top: Tiquan Underwood

Coming out of Rutgers, I thought he'd be that DeSean Jackson/Mike Wallace'esqe type of deep threat receiver, but it just hasn't happened for him in Jacksonville and now in New England.

Who is yours?

[xwalker]

How about both?

Bad evaluation - AOA (I thought be would be an excellent 4th round pick and was excited when Dallas drafted him. Somewhere in the back of my mind, I blame Campo for his complete lack of success. lol).

Good evaluation - Chris Johnson (He was my favorite RB in that draft. I didn't dislike Felix, but I thought CJ would be elite).

[Canadian BoyzFan]

Every year around this time we love to remind other draftniks of arm-chair scouting prowess by naming some player that you were right about from sometime back.

Let's go a different direction and name a player (or two) that you were completely wrong about after proclaiming their impending success.

Here my guy off the top: Tiquan Underwood

Coming out of Rutgers, I thought he'd be that DeSean Jackson/Mike Wallace'esqe type of deep threat receiver, but it just hasn't happened for him in Jacksonville and now in New England.

Who is yours?


Me and a ton of other zoners.....Duke Robinson.

[realtick]

Me and a ton of other zoners.....Duke Robinson.

Hey now, don't be indicting a bunch of other zoners! Let them come out when they're ready.

[funkytown]

Hate to admit it. JaMarcus Russell

I watched a lot of LSU games that year, and loved his arm strength and size.

I figured he would have a Daunte Culpepper type career. Put up alot of yards and TD's.

Going to the Raiders killed him. Along with his poor work ethic and eating habits. And the purple stuff.

[RS12]

I thought both Peterman and Jacob Rogers would both be players. Two of the biggest reasons this past decade turned out the way it did IMO.

[overseas]

Chad Jackson

I thought he be a great WR

but no even Belicheck could not help him

[cowboy_ron]

Every year around this time we love to remind other draftniks of arm-chair scouting prowess by naming some player that you were right about from sometime back.

Let's go a different direction and name a player (or two) that you were completely wrong about after proclaiming their impending success.

Here my guy off the top: Tiquan Underwood

Coming out of Rutgers, I thought he'd be that DeSean Jackson/Mike Wallace'esqe type of deep threat receiver, but it just hasn't happened for him in Jacksonville and now in New England.

Who is yours?
Brian Bosworth and Noel Devine

[realtick]

Brian Bosworth and Noel Devine

Wow, nothing in between? That's like 20 years seperation, lol.

[Skerr41]

Ernie Shazor.

I was hell bent on the boys getting him in the second, then he goes undrafted, never made it out of camp for whoever signed him as a UDFA.

The other was Matt Jones. I fell in love with that athleticism.

[Zaxor]

WOW :eek: this is hard as I am almost always right...:D

let see I think I missed on...:confused:

Courtny Brown...I really knew nothing about him till he was drafted by the Cowboys but he had such an outstanding resume that I took their word.. hook, line and sinker

I am sure there are others I missed on but blame it on selective memory as I can't think of any off the top of my head.:p: :D

[BrAinPaiNt]

Byron Leftwich. Homer in me loved him. But he took too long in the pocket. A few years later a friend had some old marshall games on video and I borrowed it. I could not believe he had so much time behind that line on a regular basis.

Courtney Brown (penn state drafted by the browns). Really thought he would be a great player for them.

James Whalen TE from Kentucky. Really wanted the cowboys to draft him but the bucs got him. A few years later he came to the Cowboys. Initially I thought he would be the long awaited replacement for Jay Novacek. He did nothing for us but I think it was a year after he left when we took Witten and the rest, as they say, is history.

[casmith07]

I whiffed majorly on AOA.

[TheCount]

Whiff: AOA - Like a lot of other guys, I severely overestimated his ability to play NFL football. I was in denial for quite some time about it too. I'm still in denial about Kenrick Ellis as well, who I had a major man crush last on last year... but it's still early! :laugh2: Hos loves sending me periodical updates on how close he is to serving jail time as well. Thanks Hos. :mad:

Hit: Sean Lee - I had him listed as a guy the Cowboys would target on Day 2, and lo and behold, we actually drafted him. I'm usually pretty terrible at predicting Cowboy picks.

Told You So: Robert Brewster/James Marten - I was pissed after both picks and have been pissed ever since.

[casmith07]

To go way back in the day, my Told You So would've been Steven Jackson. I'm pissed to this day.

[Future]

I though Bobby would be a real good player :banghead:

[Zaxor]

Whiff: AOA - Like a lot of other guys, I severely overestimated his ability to play NFL football. I was in denial for quite some time about it too. I'm still in denial about Kenrick Ellis as well, who I had a major man crush last on last year... but it's still early! :laugh2: Hos loves sending me periodical updates on how close he is to serving jail time as well. Thanks Hos. :mad:

Hit: Sean Lee - I had him listed as a guy the Cowboys would target on Day 2, and lo and behold, we actually drafted him. I'm usually pretty terrible at predicting Cowboy picks.

Told You So: Robert Brewster/James Marten - I was pissed after both picks and have been pissed ever since.

My told you so....

Isn't it funny how I can remember a boat load of these but I can't the others :lmao2:

[John813]

For the Cowboys:

Bobby Carpenter. Didn't think he would be soft as a pillow.
Stephen Peterman. Whether we gave up on him too quickly, or what, sucks that he never contributed for this team. Think he is still starting for the Lions. Only if he never had that knee injury his rookie year...
Julius Jones. Got hooked don those three games he had his rookie year. Then realized he had no vision and was only good on draws.

Nate Allen for the Eagles. Thought he could of been good from Day 1.

Definitely will think of some later

[realtick]

Ernie Shazor.

I was hell bent on the boys getting him in the second, then he goes undrafted, never made it out of camp for whoever signed him as a UDFA.

The other was Matt Jones. I fell in love with that athleticism.

Signed by the Raiders I think....or I could be thinking about Darnell Bing.

[realtick]

I think it's hilarious that folks feel obligated to still tell you who they "hit" on.

It's like "yeah, I missed on that guy, but what about thiiiiiiiiiiiiis guy!"

:D

[realtick]

I'll name another one of recent memory that were drafted by the Cowboys...

Mike Mickens and DeAngelo Smith.

I thought we got a steal with Mike Mickens in the 7th round. He was really a good college corner at Cincinnati but just never panned out for some reason. I know he ended up in Tampa Bay for a minute, but I don't know what became of him....obviously not much as a football player.

[xwalker]

I think it's hilarious that folks feel obligated to still tell you who they "hit" on.

It's like "yeah, I missed on that guy, but what about thiiiiiiiiiiiiis guy!"

:D

Blame me, I think I set the precedent in this thread for that.

[xwalker]

Not exactly a draft pick, but I thought that Drew Henson would be better than Romo.

[realtick]

In sort of a reverse "miss," I thought Carson Palmer was going to be a scrub when he came out of USC. He's not All-World, but he certainly proved me wrong.

[Gaede]

My biggest misses were definitely Byron Leftwich and Mike Williams.

I loved Leftwich, thought with his intangibles he'd be elite. Mike Williams (USC), thought he would completely dominate.

There's lots of others, but those two--especially Williams--were the most wrong.

I was also dead wrong on Julius Jones--I was one of the only fans really happy on draft day on the forums. I firmly believed he was the best RB in the draft. I don't feel too bad about that miss though, because I do believe his career would've been different with a different coach.

[dallasfaniac]

Teyo Johnson and Mario Monds come immediately to mind.

[Dmoore Esq]

Hits:
DeSean Jackson: Fell in love with the guy while he was at college. Thought he'd translate his playmaking ability to the pros and he did. Most of the people on the board, if i remember correctly, thought he was too small.

Greg Jennings: I was at Western Michigan at the same time he was. Only made it to one game in person, but it was absolutely impressive how noticeable it was that he was the best player on the field. I thought he'd be a solid #2. He surpassed even my expectations.

Misses:
Jimmy Clausen: I thought he had a great delivery and could make all the throws. He just made QB look easy. It might be too early to write him off, though most have, but I never thought the Panthers would have to draft another QB the very next year (though that seems to have worked out pretty well for them).

Charles Rogers: I'm a big MSU fan, and he was unbelievable in college. We went from Plaxico to Rogers, and by all accounts Rogers was the more dominant player. I truly believe he's one of the biggest wastes of god given talent in the past 20 years or so. He should have been an impact WR.


It's a lot harder to remember the misses than the hits. Maybe that's why everyone thinks they're such great prognosticators.

[dallasfaniac]

It's a lot harder to remember the misses than the hits. Maybe that's why everyone thinks they're such great prognosticators.

I actually write down my comments for as many draft picks as I can and then revisit them to see how they panned out and where I might have overvalued/undervalued players. It's done wonder of my evaluation of certain positions but others I still struggle. So, myself I know a list of players I was wrong about.

[Hostile]

This is going to hurt.

Bobby Carpenter
Mike Williams, USC version
Antaaj Hawthorne
Drew Henson
Byron Leftwich

Bruises all over my ego.

[the_h0wey]

I was right about JaMarcus Russel

I was wrong on Brady Quinn

[ABQcowboyJR]

I wanted Jamaal Charles bad instead of Felix.

So far I've been wrong about Ingram. We'll see how it all unfolds though.

[Doomsday101]

Ryan Leaf. I still felt Manning was the better of the 2 but had no clue that Leaf would bomb as bad as he did.

[Gaede]

Ooh, another one I appear to be wrong about is Golden Tate. I thought he'd be amazing. I haven't heard his name once in the past two years. Not looking good there.

[realtick]

Lol, someone mentioned Teyo Johnson.....lol, that's a good name right there!

[realtick]

Ooh, another one I appear to be wrong about is Golden Tate. I thought he'd be amazing. I haven't heard his name once in the past two years. Not looking good there.

I think Tate still has some hope. I think he's victim to poor QB play too.

[mortboy]

Hit: Jamaal Charles.

Miss: AOA. I guess I bought into the hype.

[dallasfaniac]

Lol, someone mentioned Teyo Johnson.....lol, that's a good name right there!

I was certain this guy was a player that could revolutionize the TE position but his ultimate failing IMO was he never bought into being a TE, which was the very reason he left college.

[dallasfaniac]

I think Tate still has some hope. I think he's victim to poor QB play too.

I thought when Tate came out he should go to the same team that drafted Clausen. I'd be curious to see if a QB and WR from the same college team were drafted by the same NFL team in the same draft. It would stand to reason that the two would already have a rapport with each other allowing each to see the field much quicker.

Edit: I would not be surprised if the Browns attemp it this year with Griffin and Wright.

[xwalker]

Hit: Jamaal Charles.

Miss: AOA. I guess I bought into the hype.

I still don't fault the team for selecting AOA. A player with those measureables that looked that good in game footage is worth a shot in the 4th round.

It appears that his main issue was the same a Bobbie Carpenter's...just didn't enjoy contact. Poodle claims that he was very smart and a quick learner. He had the measureables. He didn't appear to be a bad character guy.

The other option is Poodle screwed him up. He started 2 games for the Titans last season.

[mortboy]

I still don't fault the team for selecting AOA. A player with those measureables that looked that good in game footage is worth a shot in the 4th round.

It appears that his main issue was the same a Bobbie Carpenter's...just didn't enjoy contact. Poodle claims that he was very smart and a quick learner. He had the measureables. He didn't appear to be a bad character guy.

The other option is Poodle screwed him up. He started 2 games for the Titans last season.

Totally agree. That what I meant. Measureables were there, game film was there, seemed smart and had character, just didn't translate on the field. He looked slower than his 40 time when he was here. I had high hopes for him and appear to be wrong.

[realtick]

I still don't fault the team for selecting AOA. A player with those measureables that looked that good in game footage is worth a shot in the 4th round.

It appears that his main issue was the same a Bobbie Carpenter's...just didn't enjoy contact. Poodle claims that he was very smart and a quick learner. He had the measureables. He didn't appear to be a bad character guy.

The other option is Poodle screwed him up. He started 2 games for the Titans last season.

The 4th round is a great spot to take a project player. Typically project players are great/exceptional athletes that are raw. AOA and Stanback were great examples of that. We swung and missed; I'm not too mad at it.

This isn't a pat your own back thread, but I knew something was rotten in Denmark with Bob Carpenter after watching him play his rookie season. A LB that doesn't like contact is an oxymoron in football.

[junk]

Bobby Carpenter easily.

I thought he'd be a dynamic SOLB that could play the run, cover and rush the passer. Too bad he was soft.

[BAT]

LB Jason Williams
FB James Casey

[realtick]

LB Jason Williams
FB James Casey

James Casey is another good name. I didn't check, but I think he's still on the Texans squad.

[bark]

David LeFleur.... Thought he would be a bigger stronger Jay N..... Problem was he ran like he had on lead shoes!!!!