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johnnyd
02-26-2012, 11:41 AM
still waiting on measurables but

Speaking at the Combine Sunday, North Alabama CB Janoris Jenkins, who is 23, revealed he has four children under the age of four.

In a very forthcoming presser, Jenkins also confirmed he's been arrested three times and failed a drug test. Jenkins was dismissed from the University of Florida last April following his second marijuana-related arrest, but insists he has been drug-free for over a year. Jenkins' voluminous off-the-field issues surely have him off some teams' draft boards, but he has the talent to be a first-round pick.



https://twitter.com/#/joereedy/status/173817798676578304

AmishCowboy
02-26-2012, 11:47 AM
Janoris has been busy!!

visionary
02-26-2012, 11:49 AM
yeah, lets take this guy "because he has admitted to his problems" :laugh2:

TheCount
02-26-2012, 12:22 PM
I'm surprised so many people want this kid in Dallas.

Bowdown27
02-26-2012, 12:29 PM
I'm surprised so many people want this kid in Dallas.

I agree to a point. If we don't pick up a corner in free agency and Kirkpatrick doesn't have a good combine id take Jenkins. It seems we are just that desperate for cb

Staxxxx
02-26-2012, 12:38 PM
Jenkins was dismissed from Florida after being arrested for marijuana possession and signed on with North Alabama. The experience hurt his draft stock, but he repeatedly said it's been a tremendous learning experience and that he's "done" with marijuana.

"I'm done with it forever," Jenkins said. "I can't do it, man."

Jenkins also said the last time he used marijuana was when he was arrested and kicked off the team at Florida. And Jenkins said that he's been arrested three times, twice for marijuana and once for a bar fight. Jenkins said that he failed only one drug test at Florida.

more..... (http://www.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/22475988/34997915)

Staxxxx
02-26-2012, 12:56 PM
Selected Questions from the Q and A. To read the full Q and A on Scout.com click here (http://profootball.scout.com/3/2012_NFL_Combine.html)

Q: What did you learn from the past year?

A: It made me a stronger person, taught me how to fight through reality. That I’ve got to separate myself from certain guys, certain people. To be successful at the next level I can’t do the things I used to do.

Q: How much do you think your issues have hurt you with certain teams?

A: I’m pretty sure it will hurt me. But I’m looking past that, looking forward to moving on and being successful from here on out.

Q: How conquer marijuana issues, stay away from people?

A: Eliminate myself from some of those guys I used to hang with. I think about my mom all the time and my kids. In order for me
to be successful and them to have a great life or a nice life I’ve got to put it behind me. In order for my kids to get what they want,
I can be a father to my kids and just be there with my mom.

Q: You seem like a man who is grateful for a second chance.

A: I’ve got to be grateful. For what I’ve been through, four years of my career, ups and downs, saying they’re going to
be there with me through thick and thin. I’m very grateful for a second chance.

Q: How long have you stopped smoking marijuana?

A: My last time smoking was right before I got kicked out of Florida, before my last incident happened.


Q: What does it say about your talent level that you’re getting a second chance?

A: They see the talent. They just want to know what kind of kid I am. I came in here to show ‘em I’m not a bad kid,
I made a few mistakes and I learned from ‘em. Everything I did, I did. I’m admitting it. I did it. I’m looking to put that in my past and moving forward.

fortdick
02-26-2012, 12:59 PM
Demonstrates a lot of ability

Not so much responsibility

If he would avoid the dope like he avoids condoms, his life would improve.

Teague31
02-26-2012, 01:22 PM
pass.

casmith07
02-26-2012, 01:24 PM
Yeah, the hits just keep on coming for this guy. Four children under the age of four? Not so much that he likes to have sex with girls, but that's all judgment stuff.

And then he's hitting weed while he's got kids? Come on, man.

No thanks. No, no, no. Don't want him.

TheSport78
02-26-2012, 01:28 PM
Stay away. Pacman Part Deux!

Gaede
02-26-2012, 01:40 PM
Lot of red flags, for sure

Giving the right answers and I trust that he's learned from his past mistakes, but that doesn't mean he's not gonna make different mistakes in the pros.

I believe the guy has changed and I hope he plays well, but I'm not sure I'd take a shot on him in the first round.

Hoofbite
02-26-2012, 01:52 PM
Is he trying to keep pace with Cromartie?

I would touch this guy at this point.

The weed is stupid. Lack of judgement.

4 kids under the age of 4 is an even bigger lack of judgement unless he happened to hit a home run and produce quads.

I admire him for owning up and facing the music but he may have dug too big of a hole for some teams to drag him out of.

johnnyd
02-26-2012, 02:14 PM
Is he trying to keep pace with Cromartie?

I would touch this guy at this point.

The weed is stupid. Lack of judgement.

4 kids under the age of 4 is an even bigger lack of judgement unless he happened to hit a home run and produce quads.

I admire him for owning up and facing the music but he may have dug too big of a hole for some teams to drag him out of.

um ..er ..okay.. :D

Hoofbite
02-26-2012, 02:18 PM
um ..er ..okay.. :D

:bang2:

johnnyd
02-26-2012, 02:24 PM
:bang2:

lol .. ive been there I'm the king of the type-o my friend..

burmafrd
02-26-2012, 02:28 PM
Lets see:


Seems hard for him to put down the pipe AND keep it in his pants.


Talk about a PR nightmare.


He is just not good enough to put up with.

He would need to be the second coming of Deion to even consider it and he ain't close.

realtick
02-26-2012, 02:28 PM
I see ol'Janoris is trying to dethrone Shawn Kemp.

realtick
02-26-2012, 02:37 PM
Ehh who cares as long as he acknowldges the kids and takes care of them. That has absolutely nothing to do with his ability to play football. Let's be honest, if he was a white christian guy no one would care. People are just looking to attack this kids character at this point. There are far worse people with far more important jobs than Jenkins. Give the kid a cjance and let him play the game, its not like we are electing him president or anything.

Matt Jones says hello from the tent he's sleeping in. Also, Todd Marinovich says "whut up!"

JonJon
02-26-2012, 02:42 PM
I would touch this guy at this point.

Careful there, Hoofbite. You just might end up pregnant.

All joking aside, I really don't see what the big uproar is because the guy has 4 kids. Sure, it's a lot for his age, but I don't see how that relates to him in terms of football or bad judgement as some would say. At least he is trying to be a father to them and is trying to be accountable.

Muhast
02-26-2012, 02:43 PM
Yeah, the hits just keep on coming for this guy. Four children under the age of four? Not so much that he likes to have sex with girls, but that's all judgment stuff.

And then he's hitting weed while he's got kids? Come on, man.

No thanks. No, no, no. Don't want him.


Same, I'm not interested at all.

RS12
02-26-2012, 02:47 PM
Antonio Cromarties record appears to be in jeopardy.

tm1119
02-26-2012, 02:47 PM
Matt Jones says hello from the tent he's sleeping in. Also, Todd Marinovich says "whut up!"

Really? You just compared Janoris Jenkins to Todd Marinovich?

JonJon
02-26-2012, 02:49 PM
Just want to add that I seriously doubt this news about his arrest or kids is anything new to NFL teams and scouts. I'm sure they already knew this long ago, but he just made it known to the public. If anything, I bet it shows accountability to the teams that are already interested in him.

burmafrd
02-26-2012, 02:50 PM
just imagine what our friendly and loyal local media would do with this pick.

Cannot believe that some people think nothing matters but what happens on the field.

burmafrd
02-26-2012, 02:52 PM
Just want to add that I seriously doubt this news about his arrest or kids is anything new to NFL teams and scouts. I'm sure they already knew this long ago, but he just made it known to the public. If anything, I bet it shows accountability to the teams that are already interested in him.

So what? Someone confesses to being a terminal screwup and suddenly that is all that matters?

JonJon
02-26-2012, 02:55 PM
So what? Someone confesses to being a terminal screwup and suddenly that is all that matters?

No. But putting it behind you does. It's how you learn from the mistakes you have made. He is doing everything he can to prove that those mistakes are behind him.

Avery
02-26-2012, 03:19 PM
I have no problem with drafting him, just not at #14. If we were to trade back into the end of the first round, I would be okay with it.

GroundUp
02-26-2012, 04:17 PM
Careful there, Hoofbite. You just might end up pregnant.

All joking aside, I really don't see what the big uproar is because the guy has 4 kids. Sure, it's a lot for his age, but I don't see how that relates to him in terms of football or bad judgement as some would say. At least he is trying to be a father to them and is trying to be accountable.

Couldn't agree more. I actually think it's great that even though he fathered that many kids at a young age he is doing what a MAN should by caring for those kids.

realtick
02-26-2012, 04:23 PM
Wait, wait, wait.....are we actually giving Jenkins some sort of credit for acknowledging he has kids and is trying to take care of them?

Lol, what did you expect him to say "kids....what kids?" denying they exist, or "oh, them....shoooooot, they ain't my responsibility."

burmafrd
02-26-2012, 05:38 PM
Sure. Idiot gets women pregnant right and left. Somehow because he acknowledges he can't keep it in his pants some here want to salute him for it?

He is a dumb cluck. Careless and heedless.

THe only reason some here are defending him is because he is a top athlete.

THAT IS THE ONLY REASON.

take a good look in the mirror dummies.

JonJon
02-26-2012, 05:51 PM
Wait, wait, wait.....are we actually giving Jenkins some sort of credit for acknowledging he has kids and is trying to take care of them?

Lol, what did you expect him to say "kids....what kids?" denying they exist, or "oh, them....shoooooot, they ain't my responsibility."

The point I am trying to make is that it shouldn't matter whether he has 4 kids or not. It has no relevancy to whether or not he should be drafted. I get being concerned because of the drug charges and arrest, but discounting him because he has kids is crazy.

JonJon
02-26-2012, 05:52 PM
Sure. Idiot gets women pregnant right and left. Somehow because he acknowledges he can't keep it in his pants some here want to salute him for it?

He is a dumb cluck. Careless and heedless.

THe only reason some here are defending him is because he is a top athlete.

THAT IS THE ONLY REASON.

take a good look in the mirror dummies.

Maybe you should take a good look in that mirror yourself. You are the one judging the man when you have no idea of the circumstances. After that, you might want to take a closer look at the site guidelines regarding name-calling.

fortdick
02-26-2012, 06:06 PM
This thread hasn't been deleted yet?

Yuma Cactus
02-26-2012, 06:11 PM
I was on the Jenkins bandwagon early on, but too many red flags. And having 4 kids before the age of 23 and not married is a huge one. If he is there in the 2nd then would have to consider taking him but not in the 1st.

TheCount
02-26-2012, 06:15 PM
The point I am trying to make is that it shouldn't matter whether he has 4 kids or not. It has no relevancy to whether or not he should be drafted. I get being concerned because of the drug charges and arrest, but discounting him because he has kids is crazy.

Inability to use a condom counts as poor decision making. I think it's relevant for that reason alone.

Hoofbite
02-26-2012, 06:28 PM
Yeah because its true. If you think there isn't a double standard because of stereotypes going here than you must live 1 hell of a sheltered life...and I'm white by the way so I'm not pulling any cards

Matt Jones snorted his way out of the league.

Being white hasn't protected Clay Matthews from a cloud of suspicion. Didn't see Brian Cushing get any sort of white pass when he was suspended.

Kerry Collins probably drank himself off of a number of teams, only to come back and do it again.

There is no stereotype here.

He's a recovering (supposedly) drug user and a horrible decision maker.

It's not like people are saying these things about him without cause. He is what he is.

jnday
02-26-2012, 06:46 PM
Sure. Idiot gets women pregnant right and left. Somehow because he acknowledges he can't keep it in his pants some here want to salute him for it?

He is a dumb cluck. Careless and heedless.

THe only reason some here are defending him is because he is a top athlete.

THAT IS THE ONLY REASON.

take a good look in the mirror dummies.

I am not agreeing with the name calling , but I agree 100% with the rest of this post . Just because he is a great CB and admits his mistakes does not mean that his stupid mistakes should be overlooked . He makes bad choices and he has proven that he is too stupid to learn from his mistakes .

JonJon
02-26-2012, 08:18 PM
Inability to use a condom counts as poor decision making. I think it's relevant for that reason alone.Again, you don't know the circumstances. It may be poor decision making in your world, but maybe not in his. Maybe he's always wanted four kids.

I am not agreeing with the name calling , but I agree 100% with the rest of this post . Just because he is a great CB and admits his mistakes does not mean that his stupid mistakes should be overlooked . He makes bad choices and he has proven that he is too stupid to learn from his mistakes .

And just how has he "proven" he is too stupid to learn from his mistakes?

SDogo
02-26-2012, 08:29 PM
Inability to use a condom counts as poor decision making. I think it's relevant for that reason alone.

As long as he did not get them from a clinic based on future earnings and not pay the clinic back it's ok...........

Also, we all do things we are not proud of when we are high and drunk.........oh wait.......ooops

weaver21
02-26-2012, 08:31 PM
He's not my preferred draft pick as I'd rather see the Cowboys draft DeCastro if he is there at 14, but if DeCastro is taken and we didn't address the cornerback position in free agency that much, I'd take him. The drugs and arrests are red flags, but he's shown that he's able to own up to his mistakes and change the way he carries himself. Even though he has four kids at only 23 years old, hopefully he is becoming a man and being in his kids lives. If he's doing that, then that shouldn't be a cause for concern. If the Cowboys do draft him, just supply him a year amount of condoms. :D

johnnyd
02-26-2012, 08:41 PM
INDIANAPOLIS – Getting arrested after a bar fight won’t kill the chances of an NFL draft prospect, although it’s a red flag. Two other arrests for marijuana possession while in college and a failed drug test for the substance are bigger concerns for teams.



Janoris Jenkins was booted from Florida last April after three arrests

(US Presswire)
And But what appears to be a chaotic personal life, where an NFL hopeful is the father of four children by three different women, might be the issue that makes teams take a player off the draft board altogether


http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=jc-cole_janoris_jenkins_pot_children_corneback_draft_ 022612

Hoofbite
02-26-2012, 08:49 PM
INDIANAPOLIS – Getting arrested after a bar fight won’t kill the chances of an NFL draft prospect, although it’s a red flag. Two other arrests for marijuana possession while in college and a failed drug test for the substance are bigger concerns for teams.

Janoris Jenkins was booted from Florida last April after three arrests

(US Presswire)
And But what appears to be a chaotic personal life, where an NFL hopeful is the father of four children by three different women, might be the issue that makes teams take a player off the draft board altogether


http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=jc-cole_janoris_jenkins_pot_children_corneback_draft_ 022612

Anyone want to take a guess at what this guy's first priority will be after playing his rookie contract?

Dash28
02-26-2012, 09:07 PM
Again, you don't know the circumstances. It may be poor decision making in your world, but maybe not in his. Maybe he's always wanted four kids.



And just how has he "proven" he is too stupid to learn from his mistakes?
By multiple women?

You're reaching here.

InmanRoshi
02-26-2012, 09:11 PM
Said an NFC team executive: “You want to hear if he has a plan to deal with it. He might convince you that he has it under control.”

What’s the likelihood of that?

“I wouldn’t expect it to be real high,” he said. “Most of these guys don’t know what to do with the first dollar they make. If this kid could follow a plan, he wouldn’t be in this situation in the first place. … I know this movie. It usually doesn’t end well.

PacMan Jones redux

jnday
02-26-2012, 09:28 PM
Again, you don't know the circumstances. It may be poor decision making in your world, but maybe not in his. Maybe he's always wanted four kids.



And just how has he "proven" he is too stupid to learn from his mistakes?

He keeps repeating them . He can't learn from getting caught with pot the first time , he had to keep repeating them until he was thrown out of Florida . He didn't learn after the first child , he had three more . Unless he has some secret job , he is not able to support them . He hasn't just made a mistake or two , he has made a series of them .

RS12
02-26-2012, 09:31 PM
One AFC executive told Yahoo Sports that he expects at least a handful of teams to remove North Alabama CB Janoris Jenkins from their draft boards due to off-field issues.
Jenkins has been arrested three times, was suspended at North Alabama even after being kicked out of Florida, has four children under the age of four, and had an admitted ongoing drug problem as recently as a year ago. "We haven’t decided what to do with him," said the AFC exec. "We might take him off our board. I know there will be 3-4 teams that will take him off right away, at least for the first round." Said one NFC executive, "I know this movie. It usually doesn’t end well." Added an AFC defensive coordinator, "It's a lot, that's all I can say." Feb 26 - 8:53 PM
Source: Yahoo Sports

jnday
02-26-2012, 09:42 PM
He's not my preferred draft pick as I'd rather see the Cowboys draft DeCastro if he is there at 14, but if DeCastro is taken and we didn't address the cornerback position in free agency that much, I'd take him. The drugs and arrests are red flags, but he's shown that he's able to own up to his mistakes and change the way he carries himself. Even though he has four kids at only 23 years old, hopefully he is becoming a man and being in his kids lives. If he's doing that, then that shouldn't be a cause for concern. If the Cowboys do draft him, just supply him a year amount of condoms. :D

I won't overlook his mistakes just because he owns up to them . The whole concept that he owns up to them makes me laugh . What did people expect him to say ? He is going to say whatever he has to , as long as he gets paid . People are willing to forgive him because he has great CB skills . Not me .

RS12
02-26-2012, 09:46 PM
I won't overlook his mistakes just because he owns up to them . The whole concept that he owns up to them makes me laugh . What did people expect him to say ? He is going to say whatever he has to , as long as he gets paid . People are willing to forgive him because he has great CB skills . Not me .

Not a matter of forgive and forget. A matter of risk out weighs reward IMO.

jnday
02-26-2012, 10:00 PM
Not a matter of forgive and forget. A matter of risk out weighs reward IMO.

I agree . If I was making the draft board for the Cowboys , I would not take the risk .

InmanRoshi
02-26-2012, 10:16 PM
I don't think Janoris Jenkins is a once in a lifetime Deion Sanders or Champ Bailey type of CB, so why take on that risk. This guy doesn't just make one mistake and learns from it, he makes the same mistakes over and over and over again.

cowboy_ron
02-26-2012, 10:26 PM
Even after we sign Carr, I woulld still take this guy in the 2nd if the pass rusher we wanted was gone......and this is taking DeCastro or Glenn in the 1st

Hoofbite
02-26-2012, 10:49 PM
One AFC executive told Yahoo Sports that he expects at least a handful of teams to remove North Alabama CB Janoris Jenkins from their draft boards due to off-field issues.
Jenkins has been arrested three times, was suspended at North Alabama even after being kicked out of Florida, has four children under the age of four, and had an admitted ongoing drug problem as recently as a year ago. "We haven’t decided what to do with him," said the AFC exec. "We might take him off our board. I know there will be 3-4 teams that will take him off right away, at least for the first round." Said one NFC executive, "I know this movie. It usually doesn’t end well." Added an AFC defensive coordinator, "It's a lot, that's all I can say." Feb 26 - 8:53 PM
Source: Yahoo Sports

Drug use just last year?

Sorry. I'll be shocked if he goes int he 1st round. If he were applying for respectable 9-5 in the real world he wouldn't get a call-back, email or "Thank You" post card.

What's the over or under AFTER he signs his contract that he gets into trouble?

I'm gonna say he either goes less than 3 months or it takes 1 full year and during his first offseason.

FuzzyLumpkins
02-26-2012, 11:48 PM
Stay away. Pacman Part Deux!

Wrong addiction. Pac-man was an alcoholic. This guy doesn't have self control when it comes to sex and likes weed. Weed addiction is much different than alcoholism.

FuzzyLumpkins
02-26-2012, 11:51 PM
Drug use just last year?

Sorry. I'll be shocked if he goes int he 1st round. If he were applying for respectable 9-5 in the real world he wouldn't get a call-back, email or "Thank You" post card.

What's the over or under AFTER he signs his contract that he gets into trouble?

I'm gonna say he either goes less than 3 months or it takes 1 full year and during his first offseason.

i never understand the 'real world' comparison. If he could work with certain microcontrollers for example he would still be able to find a job quite easily. Finding people that can start at corner in the NFL is a lot less rare than certain engineering skills.

Guys that have unique skills get consideration those that do not do not. thats how life works.

Hoofbite
02-27-2012, 12:02 AM
Wrong addiction. Pac-man was an alcoholic. This guy doesn't have self control when it comes to sex and likes weed. Weed addiction is much different than alcoholism.

Yeah, one will sit you out for 4 games, more if you can't control it and the other is sold and consumed while you play.

:laugh2:

i never understand the 'real world' comparison. If he could work with certain microcontrollers for example he would still be able to find a job quite easily. Finding people that can start at corner in the NFL is a lot less rare than certain engineering skills.

Guys that have unique skills get consideration those that do not do not. thats how life works.

I guess cause the rest of us live in the "real world" and at some point he will too and the guy should realize he has a gift instead of squander it.

When 3 child support checks consume the hell out of his NFL salary, maybe then he'll regret being a **** up.

BritishBoysfan
02-27-2012, 05:14 AM
Drafting him worries me witless

We have to hit at 14, and I think risk way outweighs reward here

johnnyd
02-27-2012, 08:25 AM
Even after we sign Carr, I woulld still take this guy in the 2nd if the pass rusher we wanted was gone......and this is taking DeCastro or Glenn in the 1st

Agreed.

mmillman
02-27-2012, 01:58 PM
Too high of a risk to take in the first round. If Dallas whiffed on this kid with a pattern of bad decisions they would be hurting even more badly in the secondary.

PASS on possible Pacman jr.

jterrell
02-27-2012, 02:15 PM
You have to weigh the raw talent; which I think is top 5 overall, against the pure insanity that has been his off-field decision-making.

The last guy this scrutinized and talented was probably Randy Moss.

Passing him over rather hurt.

Go youtube his clips versus Julio Jones and AJ Green before saying you'd not touch him....

FWIW I have no issue with him popping out kids provided that he supports and raises them. He makes it sound as if he does interact with them now.

Gonna be a tough call for a GM but it's just as likely there will be 30 teams mad at themselves for skipping him as there will be one mad that they took him. The average NFL player has very little in common with choir boys.

burmafrd
02-27-2012, 02:58 PM
Burger Kiing from the Combine

4. I think whoever takes Janoris Jenkins, the former Florida cornerback who finished his career at North Alabama, is going to have some sleepless nights. He's 23. He's a top talent, and likely will go in the first round. He's also been arrested three times, once for a bar fight and twice for marijuana possession. He has four children three or younger (Janoris Jr., Legend, Janorian and Paris) by three different mothers. "I've made a few mistakes and I've learned from them,'' he said at the combine. Question is, who will take a shot on a very good talent at a vital position, who is such a risk?



Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/peter_king/02/27/combine/index.html#ixzz1ncN6eGzi


no way frankly does a smart team use a first on this guy

casmith07
02-27-2012, 04:07 PM
Even after we sign Carr, I woulld still take this guy in the 2nd if the pass rusher we wanted was gone......and this is taking DeCastro or Glenn in the 1st

That's a completely different situation, considering you've already plugged a noticeable gap.