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LA=Pancakemaker
04-04-2005, 03:22 PM
Cowboys | Bledsoe Deal May be Just One-year Deal - from www.KFFL.com
Mon, 4 Apr 2005 12:39:15 -0700

Ron Borges, of the Boston Globe, reports <A href="http://www.kffl.com/team/14/nfl">Dallas Cowboys QB Drew Bledsoe (http://www.kffl.com/player/206/nfl) is in line to make $4 million in 2005, with $2 million coming from a signing bonus and $2 million from base salary. He could also land another $500,000 escalator through incentives in the deal. Bledsoe's three-year deal with the team is basically a one-year deal unless he plays lights-out football with the team.

hockix
04-04-2005, 03:25 PM
Cowboys | Bledsoe Deal May be Just One-year Deal - from www.KFFL.com
Mon, 4 Apr 2005 12:39:15 -0700

Ron Borges, of the Boston Globe, reports <A href="http://www.kffl.com/team/14/nfl">Dallas Cowboys QB Drew Bledsoe (http://www.kffl.com/player/206/nfl) is in line to make $4 million in 2005, with $2 million coming from a signing bonus and $2 million from base salary. He could also land another $500,000 escalator through incentives in the deal. Bledsoe's three-year deal with the team is basically a one-year deal unless he plays lights-out football with the team.

I hope he proves me wrong cause I don't even want him to start a game for us this year.

Nors
04-04-2005, 03:30 PM
I hope he proves me wrong cause I don't even want him to start a game for us this year.

Borges is a clown in the Boston market. He missed the facts on this as well - It's really a 2 year deal.

Romo/Henson battle should be fun to watch!

Gooch
04-04-2005, 03:35 PM
Romo/Henson battle should be fun to watch!

We can only hope and pray that this happens.

CanadaBoys
04-04-2005, 03:37 PM
Drew renegotiated his deals in the past... If he thinks he'll still be the starter next year and they need to create some cap room he'll do it again. If he doesn't think he'll start he'll probably look for another job or retire.

jksmith269
04-04-2005, 03:46 PM
Borges is a clown in the Boston market. He missed the facts on this as well - It's really a 2 year deal.

Romo/Henson battle should be fun to watch!


I have read articles saying that Dallas would either draft a qb or get one later in FA to push Henson but Tony Romo isn't being mentioned right now for some reason. I'm not saying he won't be with the team next year but right now he doesn't seem to be getting mentioned in Dallas's plans next year except by the fans.......

This is from the ESPN insider last weekend

Quarterback
Dallas signed Drew Bledsoe to replace Vinny Testaverde, an unrestricted free agent who isn't expected to return. With questions surrounding Drew Henson's readiness to step into the backup role, look for the Cowboys to sign or draft a quarterback capable of competing with him for that job.

followthestar
04-04-2005, 03:58 PM
kinda depends on how he plays, don't it? if bledsoe plays as poorly as vinny, yes he will be gone. if he plays solidly and gets us to the playoffs, you have to believe he'll be back for another year. anything less than the playoffs, i have to believe jerry jones will cut his losses and lobby for Henson to start in 2006. he threw aikman in and it worked out well - i believe its sink or swim for bledsoe this year with this team. do or die. put up or shut up. what have you done for me lately? etc...

LA=Pancakemaker
04-04-2005, 04:03 PM
look for the Cowboys to sign or draft a quarterback capable of competing with him for that job

Derek Anderson - Oregon State - 6,6,'' 240lb - Big Guy..... maybe in the 4th or 5th?

Release Romo A.S.A.P!

junk
04-04-2005, 04:12 PM
It could easily be a one or two year deal since the $2 million SB is so low. It definitely isn't a three year deal.

I think Romo sticks as the #3 again this year, but I am betting another UDFA QB is brought in to stick on the PS.

Dustin Long or Craig Ochs get my vote.

jksmith269
04-04-2005, 04:27 PM
Here is bledsoe's contract and I agree its more a 1yr deal than 2 or 3
His cap number next year would be 4.6mil and 6.6mil in 07

By TODD ARCHER / The Dallas Morning News

INDIANAPOLIS – According to NFL Players Association figures, Drew Bledsoe's three-year deal is worth $14 million with essentially $5.5 million guaranteed.

Bledsoe received a $2 million signing bonus and will earn a $2 million base salary in 2005. His base salary in 2006 will be $3.5 million, of which $1.5 million is guaranteed. He also has a roster bonus worth $500,000. In 2007, he will have a $5 million base salary and has a $1 million roster bonus.

Bledsoe's cap figure in 2005 will be roughly $2.6 million.

junk
04-04-2005, 04:31 PM
Here is bledsoe's contract and I agree its more a 1yr deal than 2 or 3
His cap number next year would be 4.6mil and 6.6mil in 07

By TODD ARCHER / The Dallas Morning News

INDIANAPOLIS – According to NFL Players Association figures, Drew Bledsoe's three-year deal is worth $14 million with essentially $5.5 million guaranteed.

Bledsoe received a $2 million signing bonus and will earn a $2 million base salary in 2005. His base salary in 2006 will be $3.5 million, of which $1.5 million is guaranteed. He also has a roster bonus worth $500,000. In 2007, he will have a $5 million base salary and has a $1 million roster bonus.

Bledsoe's cap figure in 2005 will be roughly $2.6 million.

Ah, but $1.5 million is guaranteed next year? That would lead me to believe it is a 2 year deal then. Right up until BP's contract runs out.

blindzebra
04-04-2005, 04:40 PM
Ah, but $1.5 million is guaranteed next year? That would lead me to believe it is a 2 year deal then. Right up until BP's contract runs out.

Yes, but 1.5 million is not a big cap hit when you are saving the 2 million in base salary. If he's not a starter in 2006, he'd need to redo the deal or he's a cap casualty.

KingTuna
04-04-2005, 04:43 PM
Bledsoe is the starting QB in Dallas for the 2005 and 2006 season..BP brought in Bledsoe to be his QB for his last 2 years in Dallas...PERIOD...........

jksmith269
04-04-2005, 04:57 PM
Ah, but $1.5 million is guaranteed next year? That would lead me to believe it is a 2 year deal then. Right up until BP's contract runs out.

His cap hit this season is 2.6mil

1.5mil (in 06) is wether he plays or is cut if he plays he will earn 4.666mil which isn't bad for a starter but I don't think its good for a back up and if he's a starter then Henson will be outta here IMHO I mean do you think he wants to go two more seasons as a backup? Do you think Drew B will want to play back up to Drew H in 06 he wouldn't for JP in buffalo so why woud we think he would hare and would we want to pay 4.666mil for a back up?

Oh and if we release him after this season he would get 2.8333 (excellerated bonus of 1.333 plus his guarnteed 1.5 salary) which would still count against the cap.

jimmy40
04-04-2005, 05:02 PM
Bledsoe is the starting QB in Dallas for the 2005 and 2006 season..BP brought in Bledsoe to be his QB for his last 2 years in Dallas...PERIOD...........Ding ding, we have a winner! Sure sucks though.

Jarv
04-04-2005, 05:19 PM
Bledsoe is the starting QB in Dallas for the 2005 and 2006 season..BP brought in Bledsoe to be his QB for his last 2 years in Dallas...PERIOD...........

2 years without being injured ? maybe, but if Drew goes down...and the other Drew steps in....Could be 1999 in NE again.....

Anyone ever hear of Wally Pipp ?

Cbz40
04-04-2005, 05:27 PM
My prediction is that Henson will be our starting QB by mid season. Call it an Old Mans intuition.

I love going out on that limb.........

Tio
04-04-2005, 05:30 PM
Isn't that what you predicted last year?


Don't mind me though, Im just commenting from afar...

Cbz40
04-04-2005, 05:37 PM
Isn't that what you predicted last year?


Don't mind me though, Im just commenting from afar...


No Sir I most certainly did not. :rolleyes:

JackMagist
04-04-2005, 05:43 PM
Yes, but 1.5 million is not a big cap hit when you are saving the 2 million in base salary. If he's not a starter in 2006, he'd need to redo the deal or he's a cap casualty.If you release Bledsoe after one year you have his 1.5 mil guarntee and the last two years of his SB escalated into next years cap so you have 2.8 mil to release him or 4.7 mil to keep him. If he plays up to his potential in 2005 then 4.7 mil is not too much to pay for him, if he does not we can save 1.9 mil on the cap by releasing him. The numbers are not very compelling if he plays like an average QB but has more TD's than INT's and has a winning record he could be back even with no playoffs...or maybe not if Jerrah gets to feeling his oats and puts his foot down on playing Henson.

ShiningStar
04-04-2005, 05:44 PM
Theres going to be writing on the wall soon I dont think henson is gonna cut it. If he was hed have done it by now, but age and missing those years have really put a hurt on this guy. He has to chomp at the bit to get to start a game but im all for Bledsoe being starter and opening for us. Youd have to really have some faith to trust Henson at this point, unless Parcells sees something which is all possible.

JackMagist
04-04-2005, 05:53 PM
Theres going to be writing on the wall soon I dont think henson is gonna cut it. If he was hed have done it by now, but age and missing those years have really put a hurt on this guy. He has to chomp at the bit to get to start a game but im all for Bledsoe being starter and opening for us. Youd have to really have some faith to trust Henson at this point, unless Parcells sees something which is all possible.I would agree with you if it were not Parcells calling the shots. His decisions are totally inexplicable where it comes to playing Henson (as well as a few other players). He will play Henson only if Bledsoe can't go this year; next year he will play Bledsoe again unless he is injured or he and Jerry have a major blowup over the QB situation. Jerry is not a real patient man and unless Bledsoe lights it up he could blow his top with Parcells' "mishandling" of the situation.

Jarv
04-04-2005, 06:04 PM
My prediction is that Henson will be our starting QB by mid season. Call it an Old Mans intuition.

I love going out on that limb.........

I'll put my money on CB...That guy has seen it all !

Cbz40
04-04-2005, 06:11 PM
Parcells is next to impossibe to predict.......If he brings in a vet as a backup is he doing it because he has no confidense in Henson or is it to push Henson???

If we did not think Henson has the talent to start in this league then why did we trade a 3rd round pick and waste all this time with him.

If we do not think Henson is the future then maybe we had better draft Smith.

I guess the plan is to keep bringing in Vet QB's who are at the twilight of their careers. LOL

OK I'll shutup

Cbz40
04-04-2005, 06:12 PM
I'll put my money on CB...That guy has seen it all !


Post of the day....... ;) ............... :D

Hostile
04-04-2005, 06:21 PM
Henson will win the starting job in Training Camp.

~Looking around for the saw.~

Cbz40
04-04-2005, 06:23 PM
Henson will win the starting job in Training Camp.

~Looking around for the saw.~

Nothing more fun than living dangerously is there Hos. :cool:

Nors
04-04-2005, 06:25 PM
Here is bledsoe's contract and I agree its more a 1yr deal than 2 or 3
His cap number next year would be 4.6mil and 6.6mil in 07

By TODD ARCHER / The Dallas Morning News

INDIANAPOLIS – According to NFL Players Association figures, Drew Bledsoe's three-year deal is worth $14 million with essentially $5.5 million guaranteed.

Bledsoe received a $2 million signing bonus and will earn a $2 million base salary in 2005. His base salary in 2006 will be $3.5 million, of which $1.5 million is guaranteed. He also has a roster bonus worth $500,000. In 2007, he will have a $5 million base salary and has a $1 million roster bonus.

Bledsoe's cap figure in 2005 will be roughly $2.6 million.

He see's year 1 Salary - He has $1.5M guaranteed salary year 2. Thats not a 1 year deal to me. But $ are so small he could be tossed year 3 easily. He will see year 2 - JMO

Lets see who wins the job in training camp - Play the best QB I Say!

Nors
04-04-2005, 06:26 PM
Henson will win the starting job in Training Camp.

~Looking around for the saw.~

Hos - the limb you are on is so thin - no saw will be needed. Your own weight will take it down! :)

Hostile
04-04-2005, 06:30 PM
Hos - the limb you are on is so thin - no saw will be needed. Your own weight will take it down! :):lmao2:

That was funny. Thanks for the giggle.

lwehlers
04-04-2005, 06:30 PM
Henson will win the starting job in Training Camp.


~Looking around for the saw.~

drew bledsoe will be our starting qb this year. i do not see henson starting over bledsoe at any point this year unless bledsoe gets hurt. i also think no matter how well henson might play in preseason i do not think that parcells will let henson start over bledsoe. parcells signed bledsoe to be our starter this year no matter if we like it or not.

Cbz40
04-04-2005, 06:31 PM
Hos - the limb you are on is so thin - no saw will be needed. Your own weight will take it down! :)


Voice of experience.......right Nors :D

Hostile
04-04-2005, 06:34 PM
drew bledsoe will be our starting qb this year. i do not see henson starting over bledsoe at any point this year unless bledsoe gets hurt. i also think no matter how well henson might play in preseason i do not think that parcells will let henson start over bledsoe. parcells signed bledsoe to be our starter this year no matter if we like it or not.Nuh uh, cause I said so.

I'm going to stick with my prediction. Bledsoe's lack of mobility will move him down the ladder.

Wolverine
04-04-2005, 06:36 PM
Henson will get to start when Parcells is no longer here. As long as Parcells is here Henson will only be a clipboard holder and go in to hold the ball for FG attempts.

Jarv
04-04-2005, 06:46 PM
Henson will get to start when Parcells is no longer here. As long as Parcells is here Henson will only be a clipboard holder and go in to hold the ball for FG attempts.

Bledsoe=staue=Tucker=opps=Henson...

Just got back from math class...Worked on that formula all day..Whatcha think ?

jksmith269
04-04-2005, 06:54 PM
He see's year 1 Salary - He has $1.5M guaranteed salary year 2. Thats not a 1 year deal to me. But $ are so small he could be tossed year 3 easily. He will see year 2 - JMO

Lets see who wins the job in training camp - Play the best QB I Say!

NORS no offense but man your not with it are you?

NO matter what DB will get 1.5 next year. If he stays with Dallas he will Earn 4.666 if he plays or holds a clip board.

You keep saying 1.5 like thats all he will be paid if he's with the team in 06 and its wrong. his base salary in 06 is 3.5 mil of which 1.5 is guarnteed even if hes not on the team then his prorated signing bonus hit of .666mil plus a 500k roster bonus.

Thats a 4.66mil cap hit...... NOT 1.5mil


I think DB has a few good years in him and will prob start as long as BP is coach.

Henson should be in his 5th year as a NFL QB but because his BB days he's in his second....I for one don't think he wants to play FB his heart isn't in it....

He said he didn't want to play FB before being released by the Yanks. I don't think he wants to now and I don't see him being a starting QB in the NFL.
But thats just MHO

Nors
04-04-2005, 08:04 PM
NORS no offense but man your not with it are you?

NO matter what DB will get 1.5 next year. If he stays with Dallas he will Earn 4.666 if he plays or holds a clip board.

PER NFLPA HIS SALARY IN 2006 IS $3.5M OF WHICH $1.5M IS GUARANTEED. TO CUT BLEDSOE WOULD ACCELERATE 2/3 OF HIS $2M SB. YOU ARE THEN LOOKING AT ALMOST $3M IN DEAD MONEY.



You keep saying 1.5 like thats all he will be paid if he's with the team in 06 and its wrong. his base salary in 06 is 3.5 mil of which 1.5 is guarnteed even if hes not on the team then his prorated signing bonus hit of .666mil plus a 500k roster bonus.

Thats a 4.66mil cap hit...... NOT 1.5mil

$1.5 MILLION HIT PLUS 2/3 OF HIS SB = $1.3M IN DEAD CAP.
BTW - FOR A STARTING QB THESE NUMBERS ARE VERY CAP FRIENDLY:)

I think DB has a few good years in him and will prob start as long as BP is coach.

Henson should be in his 5th year as a NFL QB but because his BB days he's in his second....I for one don't think he wants to play FB his heart isn't in it....

He said he didn't want to play FB before being released by the Yanks. I don't think he wants to now and I don't see him being a starting QB in the NFL.
But thats just MHO

AGREE ON HENSON - THE BLEDSOE DEAL IS NOT GEARED TO A 1 YEAR DEAL OR THEY NEVER WOULD HAVE GUARANTEED YEAR 2 MONEY WHICH IS RARE.

jksmith269
04-04-2005, 08:07 PM
AGREE ON HENSON - THE BLEDSOE DEAL IS NOT GEARED TO A 1 YEAR DEAL OR THEY NEVER WOULD HAVE GUARANTEED YEAR 2 MONEY WHICH IS RARE.


Oh I think he will be the starter next year (06) I think they Guarnteed him the 1.5 so he would come and if he got cut he would still get paid. If he's not the starter I don't think he will be here in 06

JackMagist
04-04-2005, 08:18 PM
Oh I think he will be the starter next year (06) I think they Guarnteed him the 1.5 so he would come and if he got cut he would still get paid. If he's not the starter I don't think he will be here in 06The deal is for a 4.66 cap hit if we keep him year 2 and it is a 2.83 cap hit to cut him; that leaves a 1.83 mil difference between keeping him and releasing him. So whether we keep him or not will depend on how ell he plays and how much we are in need of cap relief. I think he will play fairly well regardless so my money is on us keeping him as long as Parcells is calling the shots...that's two years (unless Jerry has a blowup).

Hostile
04-04-2005, 08:27 PM
Oh I think he will be the starter next year (06) I think they Guarnteed him the 1.5 so he would come and if he got cut he would still get paid. If he's not the starter I don't think he will be here in 06I give you credit. When people resort to the all caps shouting troll posts with me I don't respond so nicely.

Nors
04-04-2005, 08:38 PM
I give you credit. When people resort to the all caps shouting troll posts with me I don't respond so nicely.


troll post this! - LOL
I Was trying to differentiate my replies to his various comments. Reread my entire post, Don't be such a ....

jksmith269
04-04-2005, 08:43 PM
The deal is for a 4.66 cap hit if we keep him year 2 and it is a 2.83 cap hit to cut him; that leaves a 1.83 mil difference between keeping him and releasing him. So whether we keep him or not will depend on how ell he plays and how much we are in need of cap relief. I think he will play fairly well regardless so my money is on us keeping him as long as Parcells is calling the shots...that's two years (unless Jerry has a blowup).

Jack this is pretty much what I've been saying the entire thread I was only posting about the Guarnteed money for the sake of nors and saying we prob guarnteed the money in the second year (just the 1.5 of his 3.5 base salary) to get him to come to Dallas most likely no other team would have guarnteed Money in year 2 for his age....But thats just my opinion

Nors
04-04-2005, 08:53 PM
All in All a fairly cheap contract for a Starting NFL QB. I hope he plays well this year and elevates this team back to the playoffs. Thats what we all want. Well, except Miki who wannts to Rip Drew this year....:)

Hostile
04-04-2005, 08:55 PM
troll post this! - LOL
I Was trying to differentiate my replies to his various comments. Reread my entire post, Don't be such a ....All caps shouting is considered being a troll. Plain and simple. I don't even read them. Not worth the eye strain and usually not worth the time.

Nors
04-04-2005, 09:01 PM
WHATEVER Hos

I was replying to his post and the end result was one sentence in Caps. FORGIVE ME I MADE A MISTAKE.

This Troll **** crap is total BS. Have a great evening.

Ban my *** -

Hostile
04-04-2005, 09:16 PM
WHATEVER Hos

I was replying to his post and the end result was one sentence in Caps. FORGIVE ME I MADE A MISTAKE.

This Troll **** crap is total BS. Have a great evening.

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Nors
04-04-2005, 09:20 PM
IT WAS AN ACCIDENT - but bust my chops, I'm a Troll -
Good grief -

Hostile
04-04-2005, 09:43 PM
IT WAS AN ACCIDENT - but bust my chops, I'm a Troll -
Good grief -
Accidents happen.

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04-04-2005, 09:48 PM
I always loved that word netiquette.

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04-04-2005, 10:20 PM
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04-04-2005, 10:23 PM
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BWwwwwwahaahahahahaha!! Now thats funny!

jimmy40
04-04-2005, 10:27 PM
Bledsoe=staue=Tucker=opps=Henson...

Just got back from math class...Worked on that formula all day..Whatcha think ?I couldn't agree with you more on Tucker and Bledsoe. The human swinging gate and the living statue, not a good combination.

Nors
04-04-2005, 10:29 PM
I couldn't agree with you more on Tucker and Bledsoe. The human swinging gate and the living statue, not a good combination.


Henson played so Stellar in his half he was BENCHED,

And we in offseason signed Bledsoe ASAP - Thats a great sign of confidence in Henson? :confused: :skins: :lol:

jksmith269
04-04-2005, 10:30 PM
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So are you saying you "Want" a Flame Nors thread??????? :cool:

jksmith269
04-04-2005, 10:32 PM
Henson played so Stellar in his half he was BENCHED,

And we in offseason signed Bledsoe ASAP - Thats a great sign of confidence in Henson? :confused: :skins: :lol:


NORS I agree with you........BP doesn't have confidence in DH and I for one think DH doesn't want to play FB he's here for the money and thats it IMHO

Hostile
04-04-2005, 10:33 PM
NORS I agree with you........BP doesn't have confidence in DH and I for one think DH doesn't want to play FB he's here for the money and thats it IMHONonsense.

Parcells just recently had nothing but good things to say about Henson.

Henson is here to play.

Cbz40
04-04-2005, 10:35 PM
NORS I agree with you........BP doesn't have confidence in DH and I for one think DH doesn't want to play FB he's here for the money and thats it IMHO

Bull shoot! it proves that Henson does not fit into Parcell time table.

jksmith269
04-04-2005, 10:39 PM
Nonsense.

Parcells just recently had nothing but good things to say about Henson.

Henson is here to play.


I just don't know..... He said he didn't want to play FB then he finds out his future with the Yanks is pretty much over and all of a sudden he's all for FB? I don't know maybe your right...Its just my opinion but I think he will be a lot like Heath Shuler a lot of hype but little fizzle......

I mean the guy started 9 games in college 9 and people everywhere think hes the next Troy or something he may wind up being decent but he won't be great. I agree give him a chance unless something better comes along or is available.... If Alex Smith were available at 11 I would take him in a heart beat

Nors
04-04-2005, 10:44 PM
Nonsense.

Parcells just recently had nothing but good things to say about Henson.

Henson is here to play.

So much confidence in Henson he signed Bledsoe the day after he was available. So much confidence Romo was #2 last year more weeks than Henson was...... ;)

Wolverine
04-04-2005, 10:57 PM
So much confidence in Henson he signed Bledsoe the day after he was available. So much confidence Romo was #2 last year more weeks than Henson was...... ;)


Nothing
Of
Real
Substance


I said this about NORS before and it still is true.

Nors
04-04-2005, 11:04 PM
Nothing
Of
Real
Substance


I said this about NORS before and it still is true.


Get real - Factually the Bledsoe signing was not a vote of confidence for Henson:) Let me slow that down for you Wolverine:)

Attack Nors and ignore the issue! lame :skins:

ShiningStar
04-04-2005, 11:06 PM
Parcells is next to impossibe to predict.......If he brings in a vet as a backup is he doing it because he has no confidense in Henson or is it to push Henson???

If we did not think Henson has the talent to start in this league then why did we trade a 3rd round pick and waste all this time with him.

If we do not think Henson is the future then maybe we had better draft Smith.

I guess the plan is to keep bringing in Vet QB's who are at the twilight of their careers. LOL

OK I'll shutup



A 3rd rounder on a chance hed make it. yes Henson has qualities of which they could see in a workout. you working out with your own team and guys you know its good...you look good things look good. When your staring at the bull that wants your head is another matter. Now Henson might have looked good to Parcells and crew for a third rounder im not saying he didnt.

But during that Bears game there was a whole lot of uncertainity once you started seeing him where it matters..on the field.

The plan is not to bring in older qbs so stop getting impatient!!!!!!!! but the plan is to..im going to shock you, buy time to find a quality young qb. hate to break news to you but a lot of the young players out there arent all great, nor many in the NFL. You want WArner here, Garcia? We're looking for a long term qb and buying time to find one. Bledsoe was the best out there at this time for a good price. If he can get this offense moving somewhat than hes doing his job.

But if you think you can find better call him up im sure he'll listen but believe the man when he shows you the guy may not have waht it takes, or would you prefer to wait til hes on the field making the mistakes and costing the game? I'll bet you'll be ready to call for his head than i know the fans at the Bears game shut up when Vinny came in to win it.

Parcells wil forget more about football than most of us will know. Now im sure you werent complaining when he came in and went 10-6 with that 5-11 team. So lets all be patient and see waht comes in. IM sure hes earning his money.

blindzebra
04-04-2005, 11:40 PM
I've finally figured out why Nors hates Henson, it's because he was a Yankee.

The Curse is over Nors, it's okay to root for this former Yankee.:D

jksmith269
04-04-2005, 11:57 PM
Take Alex if he is available at 11


NFL | Fast Fact: Alex Smith - from www.KFFL.com
Mon, 4 Apr 2005 21:15:19 -0700

Utah QB Alex Smith earned his Bachelor's degree as a 20-year-old sophomore and began working on his Master's degree as a junior, reports Larry Mayer of ChicagoBears.com. "If you look at the NFL today, especially the quarterback position, you've got to be smart and I think I bring that to the table," Smith said. Smith is projected as a top 10 pick in the 2005 NFL Draft.

Cbz40
04-05-2005, 12:06 AM
A 3rd rounder on a chance hed make it. yes Henson has qualities of which they could see in a workout. you working out with your own team and guys you know its good...you look good things look good. When your staring at the bull that wants your head is another matter. Now Henson might have looked good to Parcells and crew for a third rounder im not saying he didnt.

But during that Bears game there was a whole lot of uncertainity once you started seeing him where it matters..on the field.


I am not going to make the mistake of rushing to judgement on a QB making his first start, using a watered down O, and with atrocious play calling either.

Who's to say by playing Henson in the 2nd half we would not have won the game. I guess we will never know will we.


The plan is not to bring in older qbs so stop getting impatient!!!!!!!! but the plan is to..im going to shock you, buy time to find a quality young qb. hate to break news to you but a lot of the young players out there arent all great, nor many in the NFL. You want WArner here, Garcia? We're looking for a long term qb and buying time to find one. Bledsoe was the best out there at this time for a good price. If he can get this offense moving somewhat than hes doing his job..

You will have a hard time making me believe that when that is all we have seen the past two seasons.



But if you think you can find better call him up im sure he'll listen but believe the man when he shows you the guy may not have waht it takes, or would you prefer to wait til hes on the field making the mistakes and costing the game? I'll bet you'll be ready to call for his head than i know the fans at the Bears game shut up when Vinny came in to win it.

Parcells wil forget more about football than most of us will know. Now im sure you werent complaining when he came in and went 10-6 with that 5-11 team. So lets all be patient and see waht comes in. IM sure hes earning his money.

Yes, Yes how many time have I had that argument thrown at me and you are right that's why he gets paid $4+ a year.

That still doesn't mean I have to agree or not question his moves. The day I quit questioning is the day I pass into Cowboy heaven (I hope).

I am so sick and tired of people telling be to be patient it makes me won't to throw up.......are you sure it's me that's being impatient or is it you. You seem perfectly happy seeing us bring in these has beens when I would be more than happy to sit back and develop a young QB.

You see I'm not a fearweather fan and I am not one of those fans that would be calling for his head during his development. Maybe you would be, but not me.

I look around our division and see the Giants developing Manning, The Skins which have been developing Ramsey, and the Eagles with McFlabb. We had Vinny and we now have Bledsoe for two seasons at most, if we are lucky, or unlucky, depending on which way you look at it. So here we are another QB in his twilight years and by the time we get around to developing a young player at the position the rest of the teams in our division are seeing us in their rearview mirror. You see it doesn't matter when you start Hernson or any other young QB we will still have to endure the the learning experience. OK i"ll be "patient"

If Henson isn't the future then we had better draft and develop a young QB and quit waisting time with these guys whose career is at it's end.

Parcells has chosen the "Win Now" policy and having no choice I'll go along with it and hope like heck it works. Unless he finishes the D I can tell you now, it will not.

Nors
04-05-2005, 07:02 AM
Take Alex if he is available at 11


NFL | Fast Fact: Alex Smith - from www.KFFL.com
Mon, 4 Apr 2005 21:15:19 -0700

Utah QB Alex Smith earned his Bachelor's degree as a 20-year-old sophomore and began working on his Master's degree as a junior, reports Larry Mayer of ChicagoBears.com. "If you look at the NFL today, especially the quarterback position, you've got to be smart and I think I bring that to the table," Smith said. Smith is projected as a top 10 pick in the 2005 NFL Draft.


Chance of that happening?

ZERO %


:skins: :jints: :iggles:

Jarv
04-05-2005, 07:05 AM
I've finally figured out why Nors hates Henson, it's because he was a Yankee.

The Curse is over Nors, it's okay to root for this former Yankee.:D

Anyone catch the Sunday night game ? A new curse has started.

Nors
04-05-2005, 07:12 AM
Anyone catch the Sunday night game ? A new curse has started.

News flash - Drew Henson still can't hit!

Yankees choked a 3-0 lead in the ALCS LAST YEAR!

Dallas just signed Drew Bledsoe and gave him 2 years worth of guaranteed money!

Jarv
04-05-2005, 07:22 AM
News flash - Drew Henson still can't hit!

Yankees choked a 3-0 lead in the ALCS LAST YEAR!

Dallas just signed Drew Bledsoe and gave him 2 years worth of guaranteed money!

Dude, news flash means current news....

DH plays football, you are a little late on that one.

Yankees lost to Boston in the ALCS...last year...

Yankees kicked Bostons but Sunday night...

Now, if you are soooo interested in old news.....why do you call it NEWS FLASH...

I could have just as easily said...NEWS FLASH>>>Bucky Dents HR over the green monster finish's Boston choke of an 18 game lead in August...But I didn't...

Opps, guess I did...lol

I have at least 25 more, if you want to hear them ?

ShiningStar
04-05-2005, 11:35 AM
I am not going to make the mistake of rushing to judgement on a QB making his first start, using a watered down O, and with atrocious play calling either.

Who's to say by playing Henson in the 2nd half we would not have won the game. I guess we will never know will we.


You will have a hard time making me believe that when that is all we have seen the past two seasons.



Yes, Yes how many time have I had that argument thrown at me and you are right that's why he gets paid $4+ a year.

That still doesn't mean I have to agree or not question his moves. The day I quit questioning is the day I pass into Cowboy heaven (I hope).

I am so sick and tired of people telling be to be patient it makes me won't to throw up.......are you sure it's me that's being impatient or is it you. You seem perfectly happy seeing us bring in these has beens when I would be more than happy to sit back and develop a young QB.

You see I'm not a fearweather fan and I am not one of those fans that would be calling for his head during his development. Maybe you would be, but not me.

I look around our division and see the Giants developing Manning, The Skins which have been developing Ramsey, and the Eagles with McFlabb. We had Vinny and we now have Bledsoe for two seasons at most, if we are lucky, or unlucky, depending on which way you look at it. So here we are another QB in his twilight years and by the time we get around to developing a young player at the position the rest of the teams in our division are seeing us in their rearview mirror. You see it doesn't matter when you start Hernson or any other young QB we will still have to endure the the learning experience. OK i"ll be "patient"

If Henson isn't the future then we had better draft and develop a young QB and quit waisting time with these guys whose career is at it's end.

Parcells has chosen the "Win Now" policy and having no choice I'll go along with it and hope like heck it works. Unless he finishes the D I can tell you now, it will not.


when they made the first TD was that atrocious play calling? no...the kid stalled. Nerves, first time call it what you will.

AS for McNabb, Eli, and Ramsey let me clear that up for you now. Ramsey isnt an NFL QB, only the Skins are convinced of this. REmember Ramsey didnt beat Brunnel in the training camps either , than once Gibbs had no choice it was all limited calling.

AS for Eli, well the Giants are so freaking scared he might not make it they are signing talent around him for insurance. Drop HIllard and sign Plax, only the Giants feel that is a major upgrade. Their D needs some work and most CB's has Eli timing down.

Now McNabb, well all i have to say is, how many rings does he have? How many rings do these running qb's have? You dont think the most scared person when Vick went down wasnt Blanks? Scared the hell out of the man.
McNAbb chocked in the final 2 mintues of that Sb and its evident.

So you think the grass is greener on the side jump ship now. Cause the eagles are not a franchise team, they are a sunday team. They go out..win on sunday, fans have a good time, do it next week. Parcells wants to retire on top and will get there. Im sure your familar with the 10-6 season with a horrid team and a ball chucker for a qb, maybe you were one of his fans, but not me. If it wasnt for injuries plaguing this team last year im sure he would have done well, but the transition of qb's needed to be done. Like the changing of the RB's. Your not going to get a stud every time, but one wil come along.

As for the qb thing goes, im sorry Henson most likely wont be it, hes got to many strikes against him. i;'ll also be the one to inform you like i mentioned before not all those qbs coming in the draft are going to be the next best thing, it jsut doesnt happen that way. So until someone solid comes along dallas will keep changing til they find the one.