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loblolly7
03-05-2012, 10:12 PM
I want to make the case that if there, Trent Richardson should be the Cowboy's pick. First you draft best player available, and many believe he is the best back since Adrain Peterson. How many drives that have been stopped, if we could have just made that first down? This will help our defense by extended drives and keep the defense off the field. Finally, he is a plus player, with no major injuries an no character concerns.
One interesting point is that he went to the same high school as Emmitt Smith, and broke all of his records. He also patterns himself after Emmitt..
I know that we have Felix, who has been injury prone and Demarco Murray, who I like, has also been injury prone in his College career...
I want that player that we can give the ball in the fourth quarter with 7 minutes to go to finish the game.... Trent Richardson is that player..
Good chance he is there. He'll be a difference maker too. The scouts gush about the guy. They wont draft him though, too many wholes, adequit players on the roster at the position, and RB is no longer a premium position.
overseas
03-05-2012, 11:04 PM
boy I'd jump on him
but we won't get the chance
GloryDaysRBack
03-05-2012, 11:09 PM
1) he will be gone
2) you could put Jim brown behind this oline and it wouldn't be enough
Future
03-06-2012, 12:08 AM
Get DeCastro and sign Nicks/Grubbs if possible and you'll get the same results with Felix and DeMarco.
texbumthelife
03-06-2012, 12:11 AM
1) he will be gone
2) you could put Jim brown behind this oline and it wouldn't be enough
A healthy starting Murray for a full season would have put up staggering numbers.
I agree we need OL help. I am just saying.
zefus411
03-06-2012, 08:10 AM
we dont need a RB we have murray who is very good i mean he ran over 800 yards in what only 6 games i mean i know i don't have to do math here but seriously that 100 plut yards a game, and then having felix as back up i believe we are good with RB and tanner for when murray or felix gets hurt. The only reason i would see us getting Trent is to trade for a good OL or DB but that would cost us more than it would help in the long run. I believe that we should go for OL first round and possibly 2nd round too, 3rd WO then defense the rest of the time. My opinion is kind of shakey i understand that but with us going to redo Romo's contract cause we know its all coming(which i don't have a problem with) but that tells me that we are going to stick with the pass game more than ran game. We need OL to keep romo safe to try and get the long pass to Dez and then some good DB and LB to help Ware and Lee out on the defense.
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Gaede
03-06-2012, 10:14 AM
I've thought about this as well. I'm pretty confident Richardson will be available.
Even after Murray's rookie season, I do have my doubts.
There's games where he's unstoppable and others where he looks so slow and tired. It's strange.
But I agree with the others, with our holes, we can't justify spending yet another high pick on a RB.
Eskimo
03-06-2012, 12:36 PM
I've thought about this as well. I'm pretty confident Richardson will be available.
Even after Murray's rookie season, I do have my doubts.
There's games where he's unstoppable and others where he looks so slow and tired. It's strange.
But I agree with the others, with our holes, we can't justify spending yet another high pick on a RB.
Maybe not.
If Richardson is on the board I would suggest we work out a trade for Murray and make Richardson the pick. A RB like that falling to you is an opportunity you can't pass up.
We could hopefully get a high 2nd or late 1st for Murray and then draft an OG at that spot.
JonJon
03-06-2012, 12:43 PM
I like him as a player, but you don't need a superstar running back to win in this league anymore. You can find great backs in rounds 2-4 that can be just as effective. However, if we were looking to address the position, I would see what I could get for Felix in a trade, and then draft RB Doug Martin from Boise St. in round 2.
DBOY3141
03-06-2012, 12:44 PM
1) he will be gone
2) you could put Jim brown behind this oline and it wouldn't be enough
Murry came up 3 yards short of 900 and only played in about half the games. A full season with Murry and he would have had 1200 or 1300 yards.
The OL needs some upgrade but if far from the worst in the NFL. Now, the defense, that's another story.
Chocolate Lab
03-06-2012, 01:20 PM
Hmm, some of the posts in this thread (great player but not premium position, etc) haven't applied to DeCastro in previous debates...
I'm not for drafting any RB this high. Just saying.
Deep_Freeze
03-06-2012, 01:26 PM
I like him as a player, but you don't need a superstar running back to win in this league anymore. You can find great backs in rounds 2-4 that can be just as effective. However, if we were looking to address the position, I would see what I could get for Felix in a trade, and then draft RB Doug Martin from Boise St. in round 2.
Well, I can't say I would be totally against Trent if Jerry had the guts to make the pick. This could be Felix's last season here anyway, and there is no question in my mind that Trent would be the BPA at that point if available. I like Murray alot, but Trent is a beast.
RB isn't as much of a premium position anymore, but guard has never been a premium position yet everyone wants one (yeah I know its alot higher need).
Really, I'm still really open on the draft til we get through free agency.
Gator88
03-06-2012, 01:29 PM
Hmm, some of the posts in this thread (great player but not premium position, etc) haven't applied to DeCastro in previous debates...
I'm not for drafting any RB this high. Just saying.
To be fair DeCastro is in a position of need, while Richardson isn't. Honestly I wouldn't be against Richardson if he was the BPA, but there does come a time when you draft too many skill players.
cowboysooner
03-06-2012, 01:53 PM
DeCastro gets mentioned 10 times in a thread about Richardson.
Doomsday101
03-06-2012, 02:02 PM
1) he will be gone
2) you could put Jim brown behind this oline and it wouldn't be enough
I agree. I thought both Murray and Felix did a good job considering the mess they ran behind
InmanRoshi
03-06-2012, 02:45 PM
Murry came up 3 yards short of 900 and only played in about half the games. A full season with Murry and he would have had 1200 or 1300 yards.
The OL needs some upgrade but if far from the worst in the NFL. Now, the defense, that's another story.
How dare you suggest that an OL that in 2012 supported a QB with a 100+ QB Rating and a RB with a 4.5 ypc and another RB a 5.5 ypc wasn't the worst offensive line in the history of footballers that ever footballed at any level of football.
We've got to immediately sign Carl Nicks at $30 million guaranteed, draft David DeCastro (even if we have to trade up) and hope/pray someone will give us a pretty good center in exchange for DeMarcus Ware in a trade. Even then, we wouldn't have truly adequately addressed this offensive line.
cowboysooner
03-06-2012, 03:01 PM
How dare you suggest that an OL that in 2012 supported a QB with a 100+ QB Rating and a RB with a 4.5 ypc and another RB a 5.5 ypc wasn't the worst offensive line in the history of footballers that ever footballed at any level of football.
We've got to immediately sign Carl Nicks at $30 million guaranteed, draft David DeCastro (even if we have to trade up) and hope/pray someone will give us a pretty good center in exchange for DeMarcus Ware in a trade. Even then, we wouldn't have truly adequately addressed this offensive line.
We should also draft Brooks in the 3rd to start the NFL's first guard platoon system. All the Giants and Eagles edge rushers won't know what hit them.
Next year we will draft 3 safeties.
Gator88
03-06-2012, 07:44 PM
How dare you suggest that an OL that in 2012 supported a QB with a 100+ QB Rating and a RB with a 4.5 ypc and another RB a 5.5 ypc wasn't the worst offensive line in the history of footballers that ever footballed at any level of football.
We've got to immediately sign Carl Nicks at $30 million guaranteed, draft David DeCastro (even if we have to trade up) and hope/pray someone will give us a pretty good center in exchange for DeMarcus Ware in a trade. Even then, we wouldn't have truly adequately addressed this offensive line.
Yeah, because it's not like the QB had broken ribs and a messed up hand last year, and missed half the season with a broken clavicle the year before.
Risen Star
03-06-2012, 08:20 PM
If Richardson's there at 14, I run the pick card up to the commish with his name on it.
What a steal that would be. The guy's a special back.
Deep_Freeze
03-06-2012, 09:17 PM
If Richardson's there at 14, I run the pick card up to the commish with his name on it.
What a steal that would be. The guy's a special back.
Yeah, I figure Trent would be real hard to pass on, but I don't think he will be there anyway.
I know some mocks have him falling cause supposedly RBs aren't premium anymore, but some still are if they are special enough.
loblolly7
03-06-2012, 10:05 PM
If Richardson's there at 14, I run the pick card up to the commish with his name on it.
What a steal that would be. The guy's a special back.
Yep, I agree, at the end of the day, you have to have collection of talent, and if he is the best RB since AP, then why not. Also, JG grew up under Norv Turner, and Norv likes a very good running game.
UncFelix28
03-06-2012, 10:13 PM
lol some of you people are so clueless... RB is the last position this front office needs to be thinking about drafting right now.
Future
03-06-2012, 11:31 PM
Murry came up 3 yards short of 900 and only played in about half the games. A full season with Murry and he would have had 1200 or 1300 yards.
The OL needs some upgrade but if far from the worst in the NFL. Now, the defense, that's another story.
That's predicated on the fact that half his games will come against 4 of the worst run defenses in the league. He averaged less than 3.5 ypc in the 12 games other than his great 4 game stretch, which included STL, BUF, SEA, and PHI defenses.
Gaede
03-07-2012, 09:46 AM
If Richardson's there at 14, I run the pick card up to the commish with his name on it.
What a steal that would be. The guy's a special back.
I kind of feel the same way.
It's hard to neglect the other holes.
But man, give me Richardson in rd. 1, trade Felix. And you got the best 1-2 punch in the league.
Woods
03-07-2012, 10:18 AM
If Richardson is projected to be as good as AP, it would be tough passing him up . . . .
Gaede
03-07-2012, 10:43 AM
If Richardson is projected to be as good as AP, it would be tough passing him up . . . .
Especially if, for instance, the team signs a starting CB and DE in free agency.
If we somehow get Mario Williams and Carr, the team could draft whoever the hell they feel like at 14.
Woods
03-07-2012, 11:39 AM
Especially if, for instance, the team signs a starting CB and DE in free agency.
If we somehow get Mario Williams and Carr, the team could draft whoever the hell they feel like at 14.
I would think so. That's the point Garrett was making at the Combine.
They can target specific players in FA, and that frees them up for the Draft.
And honestly said, IF they land a CB, Safety, and 1 interior OL (either OC or OG) in FA, that does give them the ability to pretty much do what they want in the Draft.
Most of the other starting positions would have been set.
egn22
03-07-2012, 03:55 PM
Murray made me a believer this season. This might just be me, but I can see him becoming an All-Pro RB for the next several years. He just seems to have the "it" that we're always talking about. He has all of the tools, and I think many here are really underestimating him.
At this point, i'm all about providing him with more protection rather than searching for his replacement.
realtick
03-07-2012, 04:37 PM
Here's a fun game...
Can anyone name the last Super Bowl winner that had a singular "franchise" type back?
The last I could find was 11 years ago with Jamal Lewis and the previous season with Marshall Faulk.
Folks, this is a passing league now. I really do like Trent Richardson, but there is no way I want the Cowboys taking him in the 1st round. It would make absolutely no sense.
cowboy_ron
03-07-2012, 04:58 PM
Get DeCastro and sign Nicks/Grubbs if possible and you'll get the same results with Felix and DeMarco.
Totally agree
Deep_Freeze
03-07-2012, 06:19 PM
Here's a fun game...
Can anyone name the last Super Bowl winner that had a singular "franchise" type back?
The last I could find was 11 years ago with Jamal Lewis and the previous season with Marshall Faulk.
Folks, this is a passing league now. I really do like Trent Richardson, but there is no way I want the Cowboys taking him in the 1st round. It would make absolutely no sense.
Well the biggest mistake teams make is basing their whole team around a feature back. If we were to take Trent, our team wouldn't be based around him.
Only way it would make sense is if we got most of our holes filled in free agency, so its not a decision we have to worry about til after free agency.
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