Kony 2012

[rkell87]

this video has gone viral over night, I watched it at 7 pm yesterday and it had 45,000 views, right now it sits at just under 4.3 million

it is a half hour long so make sure you have some time before you watch.

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also lets not turn this political.

[Faerluna]

http://ilto.wordpress.com/2006/11/02/the-visible-problem-with-invisible-children/

Long piece, but this quote kinda sums it up.

"Invisible Children was founded in 2004, with the film crew filming in Uganda in 2003. Watching Invisible Children is watching old news. Will watching it alert you to what has occurred in Uganda? Yes, but it will not let you know what is happening there today."

[rkell87]

the guy has called peace before and always comes back, doing the same things and worse, he may be beaten right now but until he is caught he can always come back and start again.

also the website has live alerts to attacks by the LRA so yeah watching the video has footage from '03 but you can see that it is still going on today

[gmoney112]

Yeah. He's a poopie head.

[Cowboys&LakersFan]

http://visiblechildren.tumblr.com/

[Hoofbite]

Anyone know anything about this?

I just started seeing it flooding almost every site I visit now.

From what I can tell so far.

There's a charity called "Invisible Children" who has been accepting donations for a few years in an attempt to hunt down or find some Ugandan dude who basically kidnaps kids, gets them hooked on drugs and then forces them to fight or murder or whatever for him in return for a fix. I guess he's some rebel leader and has over the years taken thousands of kids and forced them into his service.

Any, this 30M documentary-style movie is out and the charity is basically trying to publicize this guy to an extent that he just gets caught. I guess he moves around all the time, I dunno.

But, there's also some people who have figured out that this charity has accepted like 8M in funds last year but like 1/3rd of the money actually made it to Uganda.

Anyone know the real information and not just the rampant social media stuff that is flying around?

[Dallas]

From what I read, the video and possibly the charity is kind of a scam.

Read more here..

http://guyism.com/lifestyle/advice/kony-2012-viral-video-scam.html

[ajk23az]

http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=231164

[MonsterD]

Anyone know anything about this?

I just started seeing it flooding almost every site I visit now.

From what I can tell so far.

There's a charity called "Invisible Children" who has been accepting donations for a few years in an attempt to hunt down or find some Ugandan dude who basically kidnaps kids, gets them hooked on drugs and then forces them to fight or murder or whatever for him in return for a fix. I guess he's some rebel leader and has over the years taken thousands of kids and forced them into his service.

Any, this 30M documentary-style movie is out and the charity is basically trying to publicize this guy to an extent that he just gets caught. I guess he moves around all the time, I dunno.

But, there's also some people who have figured out that this charity has accepted like 8M in funds last year but like 1/3rd of the money actually made it to Uganda.

Anyone know the real information and not just the rampant social media stuff that is flying around?

Here is his response to the criticism

Link (http://news.ninemsn.com.au/world/8431706/kony-2012-filmmakers-respond-to-criticism)

Director Jason Russell shrugged off questions over Invisible Children's operating model and alleged connections to the Ugandan army during an interview with TODAY's Karl Stefanovic.
A Tumblr blog has pointed out that rather than dedicating their efforts towards on-the-ground charity work in Uganda, Invisible Children spends the bulk of donations on awareness campaigns and operating expenses, mostly in the US.
"That critic is a high school student in Canada," Mr Russell told TODAY."We are very proud of our model and it's a very unique model, because we believe in the power of educating the Western world."
Mr Russell also knocked back accusations that Invisible Children was offering financial support to the Uganda military."We don't like war — we want to end war. I'm a pacifist at heart," he said.

More... (http://news.ninemsn.com.au/world/8431706/kony-2012-filmmakers-respond-to-criticism)

[Reality]

If you go to Youtube and view any popular or featured video, you will see the comments of those videos filled with Kony spam. That is not viral .. it's spam .. plain an simple. Viral videos are shared, not spammed everywhere comments are allowed. This is no more viral than it would be if the URL was printed on a flyer and placed on the windshields of countless cars.

#reality

[Hoofbite]

http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=231164

oops.

[CliffnMesquite]

I perfer Scrooge' idea regarding children better.

:)

[rkell87]

If you go to Youtube and view any popular or featured video, you will see the comments of those videos filled with Kony spam. That is not viral .. it's spam .. plain an simple. Viral videos are shared, not spammed everywhere comments are allowed. This is no more viral than it would be if the URL was printed on a flyer and placed on the windshields of countless cars.

#reality

it has been #1 or #2 trend in U.S. on twitter for 36 hours and has 15 million views since last night, if that isn't viral idk what is

[Reality]

it has been #1 or #2 trend in U.S. on twitter for 36 hours and has 15 million views since last night, if that isn't viral idk what is

If someone makes a Kermit the Frog video and then a mass spam campaign is activated where a large group of people go to popular sites that allow comments and spam every place possible, of course it's going to become a hot topic on all social network sites simply because people are that easy to manipulate.

As I said, Viral videos are shared, advertisements are spammed. Spam something enough and people can no longer tell the difference and that's what they count on.

Kony is not a viral video. It's the result of a significant effort to spam the net which you will find in the comments of a lot of popular content sites. Seriously, go to Youtube and read the comments of every popular or featured video and you will see a lot of Kony spam and people angry about the spam.

#reality

[TheCowboy]

This movement is not a scam because they were at my school and brought some kids from the area to talk about what they saw and other things. This movement has been going on for a long time but glad to see that it is getting more attention.

[BrAinPaiNt]

If someone makes a Kermit the Frog video and then a mass spam campaign is activated where a large group of people go to popular sites that allow comments and spam every place possible, of course it's going to become a hot topic on all social network sites simply because people are that easy to manipulate.

As I said, Viral videos are shared, advertisements are spammed. Spam something enough and people can no longer tell the difference and that's what they count on.

Kony is not a viral video. It's the result of a significant effort to spam the net which you will find in the comments of a lot of popular content sites. Seriously, go to Youtube and read the comments of every popular or featured video and you will see a lot of Kony spam and people angry about the spam.

#reality

It would seem to support the guy's claim that the money used in the US is actually being used to further their goal of spreading the word.

[Reality]

It would seem to support the guy's claim that the money used in the US is actually being used to further their goal of spreading the word.

I am not discounting the purpose or content of the video, but rather the idea of it being truly viral which it is not. Something is viral when it is shared among individuals such as this thread. When it is spammed everywhere that allows comments, put up on high traffic sites as featured stories, it is simply advertised and promoted.

If Coca-Cola comes out with a new drink called "Coke Purple" with a neon purple can, then proceeds to inject millions of dollars into a massive online ad campaign and a few days later, every site is talking about it, it was not viral. It was simply heavily advertised and promoted. Sites and organizations that do not have that kind of budget resort to spamming their products, services, etc. in hopes that at some point, others can be manipulated into spamming it for them.

Again, the content and purpose of the video may be sincere and legit. I am simply not a fan of spam and when Kony comments are inserted into numerous popular sites in their content's comments when it has nothing to do with the focus or purpose of the comments, it's spam.

Just to clarify, I do not consider a thread like this that stands on its own and is in the OT forum as spam. That being said, it would not be posted here had Kony not been spammed all over the net previously.

#reality

[Future]

Reality is right, it's a campaign that's based on spam because it's predicated on contributions from everyone, not just the actual members of the organization. The only real means the public has to spread the word is to spam...


The problem I have with this documentary is that the director makes it about himself. I can't stand that. If it's for a social cause, we don't need to see your face, which makes it about you.

To sum up with a quote from The League - "I prefer the term altruistically self-serving."

[Sam I Am]

The definition of "Internet viral" is when something becomes so popular on the Internet that it makes it's way in to non-Internet life of people. (ie, a large mass of people not on the Internet are talking about it)

In that since it doesn't matter if it's spammed to the point of becoming viral or naturally becomes viral. It's still viral. As for this Kony stuff. I haven't heard a single peep from anyone that isn't on the Internet about it.

[Reality]

The definition of "Internet viral" is when something becomes so popular on the Internet that it makes it's way in to non-Internet life of people. (ie, a large mass of people not on the Internet are talking about it)

In that since it doesn't matter if it's spammed to the point of becoming viral or naturally becomes viral. It's still viral. As for this Kony stuff. I haven't heard a single peep from anyone that isn't on the Internet about it.

So every single large advertising campaign that anyone talks about is viral. Got it. I see you have some Apple(tm) in you after all.

#reality

[Yeagermeister]

So every single large advertising campaign that anyone talks about is viral. Got it. I see you have some Apple(tm) in you after all.

#reality

OUCH

:muttley:

[BrAinPaiNt]

I am not discounting the purpose or content of the video, but rather the idea of it being truly viral which it is not. Something is viral when it is shared among individuals such as this thread. When it is spammed everywhere that allows comments, put up on high traffic sites as featured stories, it is simply advertised and promoted.

If Coca-Cola comes out with a new drink called "Coke Purple" with a neon purple can, then proceeds to inject millions of dollars into a massive online ad campaign and a few days later, every site is talking about it, it was not viral. It was simply heavily advertised and promoted. Sites and organizations that do not have that kind of budget resort to spamming their products, services, etc. in hopes that at some point, others can be manipulated into spamming it for them.

Again, the content and purpose of the video may be sincere and legit. I am simply not a fan of spam and when Kony comments are inserted into numerous popular sites in their content's comments when it has nothing to do with the focus or purpose of the comments, it's spam.

Just to clarify, I do not consider a thread like this that stands on its own and is in the OT forum as spam. That being said, it would not be posted here had Kony not been spammed all over the net previously.

#reality

I was agreeing with you on the spam vs viral argument. :cool:

[Sam I Am]

So every single large advertising campaign that anyone talks about is viral. Got it. I see you have some Apple(tm) in you after all.

#reality

??? I said everyone talking about it. (well almost everyone) Not just someone.

btw, this Kony thing is being spread by people who don't work for Kony also. Every tweet, email, posting on CZ, etc isn't all only people working for Kony.

[RoyTheHammer]

??? I said everyone talking about it. (well almost everyone) Not just someone.

btw, this Kony thing is being spread by people who don't work for Kony also. Every tweet, email, posting on CZ, etc isn't all only people working for Kony.

Why would people who work for a guy committing these terrible acts be the ones spreading the word that he's committing all these terrible acts? Of course they arn't the ones spreading it.

:confused:

[RoyTheHammer]

It would seem to support the guy's claim that the money used in the US is actually being used to further their goal of spreading the word.

My question is how much money did the video cost to produce, and how much money does it really take to spam the video all over the internet. I could spam a link all over the internet right now for free.

Where are the rest of the millions of dollars of donations that this "charity" receives going?

[Cythim]

Description Amount
}}}}}}}}}}} }}}}}}}}}}}}}}
Production Costs - 851,552.
Film Costs - 357,610.
Professional Services - 244,391.
License & Fees - 229,482.
Postage - 187,501.
Other Employee Benefits - 22,976.
Other Professional Fees - 5,450.
Office Expenses - 107,855.
Travel - 1,074,273.
Insurance - 157,567.
All Other Expenses - 531,615.
}}}}}}}}}}}}}}
Total - 3,770,272.

[Sam I Am]

Why would people who work for a guy committing these terrible acts be the ones spreading the word that he's committing all these terrible acts? Of course they arn't the ones spreading it.

:confused:

Dude, I was referring to Kony 2012, not the actual guy killing people.

[Sam I Am]

It's officially viral.

[RoyTheHammer]

Dude, I was referring to Kony 2012, not the actual guy killing people.

The way you worded it made it seem like you thought people working for Kony were producing and spreading the video, haha.

[Faerluna]

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20120309/D9TD23D81.html

Anti-Kony video campaign draws criticism in Uganda


The campaign by the advocacy group Invisible Children to make militia leader Joseph Kony a household name has received enormous attention on YouTube and other Internet sites this week.

But critics here said the video glosses over a complicated history that made it possible for Kony to rise to the notoriety he has today. They also lamented that the video does not inform viewers that Kony originally was waging war against Uganda's army, whose human rights record has been condemned as brutal by independent observers.

"There is no historical context. It's more like a fashion thing," said Timothy Kalyegira, a well-known social critic in Uganda who once published a newsletter called The Uganda Record.

[Reality]

It's officially viral.

It's not viral .. it was spammed. By that misguided and malformed logic, every major news story on the planet is "viral". It was spammed everywhere until the media got a hold of it which made it even more popular. Viral content is shared from person to person, not spammed by a few people to millions of people. This was nothing more than a genius move by the publishers/makers of that movie to get the people to advertise for them.

I guess the lottery winning woman still collecting food stamps will be the next so-called "viral" story sweeping the world .... quick! Spam .. er .. I mean .. spread the word! :rolleyes:

#reality

[Sam I Am]

It's not viral .. it was spammed. By that misguided and malformed logic, every news story on the planet is "viral". It was spammed everywhere until the media got a hold of it. Viral content is shared from person to person, not spammed by a few people to millions of people.

I guess the lottery winning woman still collecting food stamps will be the new viral story sweeping the nation .... quick! Spam .. er .. I mean .. spread the word! :rolleyes:

#reality

lol. Your being a bit anal about your definition of viral. In the most simple terms, viral means it's spreading like wildfire on the Internet. This *is* spreading like wildfire. If it's on all the local TV news stations due to have fast it's spreading on the Internet. It's viral dude. The video has 56 million views since Monday. 2,729,000+ specifically went to Youtube and searched for Kony 2012. :rolleyes:

You can argue all you want, but you can't argue with 56 million views in a week.

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-B-azQGTF7BE/T1pUOegbZII/AAAAAAAABaA/kqoF3kWqIu4/s647/kony.jpg

You must not like the premise of it or something. I've seen you argue points before, but not a subject as pointless as what viral actually means.

[The30YardSlant]

These events are showing once again that any large campaign, no matter what the cause, will always bring about a counter-campaign of people who have to go against the popular trend. I've never seen a single event in my lifetime that disputes this.

People find pleasure in being contrarian. Some campaigns are deserving of such criticism, others are not, but every single one experiences this phenomenon.

[Rynie]

too soon....?
http://i459.photobucket.com/albums/qq317/RynieRynie/infantry.jpg

[Faerluna]

http://www.buzzfeed.com/daves4/people-who-think-carl-weathers-is-joseph-kony

LOL

[The30YardSlant]

too soon....?
http://i459.photobucket.com/albums/qq317/RynieRynie/infantry.jpg

http://memearchive.net/memerial.net/4246/wasnt-kidnapped-by-kony.jpg

See you in Hell. I'll bring the beer :laugh2:

[MonsterD]

too soon....?
http://i459.photobucket.com/albums/qq317/RynieRynie/infantry.jpg (http://i459.photobucket.com/albums/qq317/RynieRynie/infantry.jpg)

Not quite as bad as this one.
http://i.qkme.me/35d8ld.jpg

[The Ominous]

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[Rynie]

See you in Hell. I'll bring the beer :laugh2:

Haha. Ok. I imagine the egirl fans will outnumber us.

[Reality]

http://cowboyszone.com/images/temp/iractivist.jpg

#reality

[k19]

http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/418574_334597103253712_100001102754946_923711_1757 818103_n.jpg

[Sam I Am]

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-yvhmKfyudaQ/T1tT6ZBtA4I/AAAAAAAABZ4/oxAcdDU_5vU/w378/30000.jpg

[vta]

http://cowboyszone.com/images/temp/iractivist.jpg

#reality

:laugh2: :laugh2: