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UncFelix28
03-14-2012, 05:35 PM
yup nice knowing you man...Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Jacksonville reached agreement with former Dallas free-agent wide receiver Laurent Robinson on a five-year, $32.5 million deal.
JustDezIt
03-14-2012, 05:35 PM
Jacksonville reached agreement with former Dallas free-agent wide receiver Laurent Robinson on a five-year, $32.5 million deal.
The30YardSlant
03-14-2012, 05:36 PM
Wow, he got paid.
jterrell
03-14-2012, 05:36 PM
wow.. from street free agent to 32.5 million... just wow.
Hostile
03-14-2012, 05:36 PM
I am okay with this.
windward
03-14-2012, 05:36 PM
Happy Trails.
SDCowboy85
03-14-2012, 05:36 PM
I wonder what their reaction will be when he suddenly isn't any good for them.
reddyuta
03-14-2012, 05:37 PM
mamma mia.He should really really thank Tony romo for his payday.
Joshmil53
03-14-2012, 05:37 PM
Have with with Blaine, I'm a huge Mizzou fan, but he's not NFL worthy.
ringmaster
03-14-2012, 05:37 PM
yup nice knowing you man...Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Jacksonville reached agreement with former Dallas free-agent wide receiver Laurent Robinson on a five-year, $32.5 million deal.WOW!!!!
FuzzyLumpkins
03-14-2012, 05:37 PM
Good for him but :eek:
The Jags owner cannot talk about other teams spending after that signing.
Dash28
03-14-2012, 05:37 PM
Romo get the signing bonus?
:)
In all seriousness, i'm happy for him but no way would I want to match that.
cowboy_ron
03-14-2012, 05:37 PM
yup nice knowing you man...Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Jacksonville reached agreement with former Dallas free-agent wide receiver Laurent Robinson on a five-year, $32.5 million deal.
Wow...
SacredStar
03-14-2012, 05:37 PM
Huge payday for him.....good luck
funkytown
03-14-2012, 05:37 PM
Does this mean no Blackmon to Jacksonville in the draft?
If he doesnt go to St. Louis of course
good for him. wish him the best of luck.
SDogo
03-14-2012, 05:38 PM
Holy you know what...........................market a little out of whack right now?
lqmac1
03-14-2012, 05:38 PM
I wonder what their reaction will be when he suddenly isn't any good for them.
lol. No ****. They act like romo had nothing to do with his performance!
dadymat
03-14-2012, 05:38 PM
glad we didnt match that....too much
Risen Star
03-14-2012, 05:38 PM
Wow. Big money for a one year wonder.
Good luck without Tony Romo, Laurent.
EJ Blue
03-14-2012, 05:39 PM
I heard Gabbert is a real gunslinger.
TheCoolFan
03-14-2012, 05:39 PM
Wow good stuff. Very happy he walked, I did not want to go over 4-5 mil per year...he's not worth it
SDogo
03-14-2012, 05:39 PM
Just going to have to draft Devon Wylie...........darn
Dash28
03-14-2012, 05:40 PM
Just going to have to draft Devon Wylie...........darn
:laugh2:
I know that upsets you bro, but it's going to be ok...
The Quest for Six
03-14-2012, 05:40 PM
no surprise, been saying all along he wouldn't be back, greener pastures elsewhere...stirke when the iron is hot!!
UncFelix28
03-14-2012, 05:40 PM
a ton of Robinson's big plays and TD's were from Romo scrambling and getting out of the pocket & Robinson making sure he was in the right place.. Good luck finding that in Jacksonville, but enjoy your pay-day
Deep_Freeze
03-14-2012, 05:41 PM
Knew this was coming.
DWAREZ
03-14-2012, 05:41 PM
good for him, too much for us!
5Stars
03-14-2012, 05:41 PM
Good for him. A guy that knows the game of football. I hate losing him, but what he got was just to much.
Deep_Freeze
03-14-2012, 05:42 PM
Just going to have to draft Devon Wylie...........darn
Gimme Joe Adams instead.
Hostile
03-14-2012, 05:42 PM
Just going to have to draft Devon Wylie...........darnJuron Criner.
:dance:
Romo 2 Austin
03-14-2012, 05:42 PM
No way we could have matched that contract.
The Quest for Six
03-14-2012, 05:42 PM
Wow. Big money for a one year wonder.
Good luck without Tony Romo, Laurent.
Romo may be the one missing Laurant Robinson, atleast he knew the playbook and could stay healthy...
TheSport78
03-14-2012, 05:43 PM
Early Doucet, anyone?
Maybe Romo can get Doucet a $50 million dollar deal next offseason?
EPL0c0
03-14-2012, 05:43 PM
I hate to see him go, but I'm glad that he's landed somewhere and hopefully he stays healthy from here on out
SDogo
03-14-2012, 05:43 PM
Juron Criner.
:dance:
Wylie!!!!!!!!!
Actually would not be surprised to see Holmes get the nod this year and Dallas draft Broyles.
Nation
03-14-2012, 05:43 PM
Good for him. He deserves it and certainly earned the money he got here and we shouldn't be paying our number three receiver that kind of money. Works out for everyone.
jterrell
03-14-2012, 05:43 PM
Romo may be the one missing Laurant Robinson, atleast he knew the playbook and could stay healthy...
could stay healthy? huh? ask the rams about that.
BIGDen
03-14-2012, 05:43 PM
I'm disappointed but it was expected. I really liked him. Romo will miss him, but we should be fine as long as we fix the OL. Can't blame Dallas. Just too much money. The Carr signing softened this blow. I'd be miserable if we didn't get Carr and lost LR too today. Thanks for some big, clutch plays Laurent. Both of my fantasy teams thank you as well.
AbeBeta
03-14-2012, 05:43 PM
No way we could have matched that contract.
depend on how it was structured.
Bowdown27
03-14-2012, 05:43 PM
Wow that's doe !!
Pabst
03-14-2012, 05:44 PM
So much money.
Good for him. Was hoping he'd stay, but there's no way Dallas could afford that contract for a 3rd wideout.
Best of luck to him, but with Gabbert throwing him the ball, I'm guessing this past year will be the best of his career.
Hostile
03-14-2012, 05:44 PM
Wylie!!!!!!!!!
Actually would not be surprised to see Holmes get the nod this year and Dallas draft Broyles.
They are serious about Andre Holmes here.
Yes, on Broyles from me.
fanfromvirginia
03-14-2012, 05:44 PM
good for him. wish him the best of luck.
Yep. Great guy, would have liked to keep him but not for that kind of scratch.
rojan
03-14-2012, 05:44 PM
Good Luck!!
I'm sure he is thankful for the opportunity that he got in Dallas!!
newlander
03-14-2012, 05:44 PM
32 mil? yikes.....:rolleyes:
wittenacious
03-14-2012, 05:44 PM
Mama Mia, That's a Lotta Cabbage-a!
Quick turn of fortune for Robinson. Glad for him, but more glad we didn't match such an offer.
BIGDen
03-14-2012, 05:45 PM
Romo may be the one missing Laurant Robinson, atleast he knew the playbook and could stay healthy...
Absolutely. That guy and Romo clicked instantly. He was really clutch too. He was our most reliable receiver and will be missed.
This dude was good but easily replacable with a good slot WR. All his catches were broken plays.
SDogo
03-14-2012, 05:45 PM
They are serious about Andre Holmes here.
Yes, on Broyles from me.
Yeah, I think he is A LOT of the reason why Dallas even let Robinson test the market. I admit, I was real high on him coming out. Time to see what he has.
dadymat
03-14-2012, 05:46 PM
Romo may be the one missing Laurant Robinson, atleast he knew the playbook and could stay healthy...
lol... hes been healthy 1 out of 5 years in the NFL.....but lets dont talk about all that....
popp1234
03-14-2012, 05:46 PM
Well, from early threads on the Jaguars forum, they are very excited to sign him.
sago1
03-14-2012, 05:46 PM
Don't know anything about the Jags, whose their QB?
MichaelWinicki
03-14-2012, 05:47 PM
Wow. Big money for a one year wonder.
Good luck without Tony Romo, Laurent.
Exactly right.
Woods
03-14-2012, 05:47 PM
Don't know anything about the Jags, whose their QB?
Tebow possibly. otherwise b gabbert.
AbeBeta
03-14-2012, 05:47 PM
Yeah, I think he is A LOT of the reason why Dallas even let Robinson test the market. I admit, I was real high on him coming out. Time to see what he has.
that and the fact that we couldn't sign him before the market opened
JohnsKey19
03-14-2012, 05:48 PM
I'm all for players getting paid, especially good guys like Laurent. But that contract is just crazy. Only in the NFL. Congrats to Mr Robinson.
jazzcat22
03-14-2012, 05:48 PM
I wonder what their reaction will be when he suddenly isn't any good for them.
Right, especially if Manning signs with Denver, and Jaguar fans think they will get Tebow....big difference of Romo throwing to you vs. Tebow.
percyhoward
03-14-2012, 05:48 PM
All his catches were broken plays.
That's one of the reasons I think we were lucky to win 8 games.
cowfan
03-14-2012, 05:49 PM
I thought Robinson would try to stay with Dallas. He and Romo had chemistry so I'm surprised Robinson and his agent would leave Dallas. Robinson caught on with a team and had success and I'm surprised that they would change anything. The Cowboys now have to find a third receiver. It has to be a good player and not another project.
Avery
03-14-2012, 05:49 PM
I'm glad he got paid, but no way we would have matched that for a third WO.
the_h0wey
03-14-2012, 05:50 PM
We offered $28 million. So much for the discount he was going to give Dallas...
Kristen82
03-14-2012, 05:51 PM
32 mil? yikes.....:rolleyes:
Isn't the important thing how much of it is guaranteed?
AbeBeta
03-14-2012, 05:52 PM
We offered $28 million. So much for the discount he was going to give Dallas...
what a jerk!
not leaving almost 5 mill on the table.
we also have zero idea how the offers were structured, so that difference could be much larger (or much smaller for that matter)
JohnsKey19
03-14-2012, 05:52 PM
We offered $28 million. So much for the discount he was going to give Dallas...
The hometown discount thing is overstated. It's all about getting paid and rightfully so.
Meat-O-Rama
03-14-2012, 05:53 PM
Congrats Laurent. Go out and have a little fun with that signing bonus. After that, take care of every penny. This could very well be your last contract.
CowboyMcCoy
03-14-2012, 05:54 PM
Ouch. All I have to say is this will hurt.
AbeBeta
03-14-2012, 05:54 PM
Isn't the important thing how much of it is guaranteed?
that stuff only matters to people who have a rudimentary or higher level of understanding of NFL contracts
CowboyMcCoy
03-14-2012, 05:55 PM
I'm glad he got paid, but no way we would have matched that for a third WO.
I'm not so sure he was really our 3rd. Dude had a great year.
EJ Blue
03-14-2012, 05:55 PM
Ouch. All I have to say is this will hurt.It's the Jaguars, I'd be surprised if they can still feel pain...
AbeBeta
03-14-2012, 05:55 PM
14 mill guaranteed
durrrr
03-14-2012, 05:57 PM
good for him
trickblue
03-14-2012, 05:58 PM
I am okay with this.
I am too, although I wish we had worked out a deal before FA... I think we could have signed him for MUCH less...
I hate seeing good players and quality individuals going to other teams...
He was really good for us last year and had a great attitude...
mmillman
03-14-2012, 05:58 PM
shoot, I was really hoping he would come back. Dallas will miss him. I can't believe he made that much. Too bad he has nobody to throw to him now.
Hoofbite
03-14-2012, 06:00 PM
This dude was good but easily replacable with a good slot WR. All his catches were broken plays.
Easily replaceable? Dallas has been looking for young WR talent to develop into that role for how long now?
I don't think 11 TDs is easily replaceable. Then again, it probably wouldn't have to be if the the guys in front of him play all 16 games.
That said, I doubt Dallas finds a #3 to provide what he did.
I don't care if the plays were broken. Dallas has a QB who can extend plays so if they have a WR who can basically get open any time a play is extended, sounds like a nice combo to me.
32.5M is a bit steep on the surface but it looks like everyone is getting paid out the ying yang right now.
I'd bet the last year is pretty loaded but still a big amount to pay out.
I was thinking he would get about 5 per year but then again I never thought some any WR would get 132M over 7 years anytime soon so who the hell knows.
Woods
03-14-2012, 06:01 PM
From walterfootball.com on FA grades (it's entertaining),
2012 NFL Free Agency: March 15 Updates
Jaguars sign WR Laurent Robinson (5 years, $32.5M; $14M guaranteed): MILLEN Grade
There are many reasons why this is a terrible signing:
1. I've said it many times, and I'll say it again: Players who go from good teams to crap franchises for a big pay day seldom pan out. The Jaguars experienced this when they signed wide receiver Jerry Porter several years ago.
2. Laurent Robinson is very injury-prone. He's missed 27 games in the past four seasons.
3. Robinson is a one-year wonder. Prior to 2011, he never caught more than 37 passes in a single campaign.
4. On a related note, Robinson hauled in 54 receptions last season. That's his career-high reception total. How do you give a guy $14 million guaranteed when he's never caught more than 54 balls in a single year?
links18
03-14-2012, 06:03 PM
We'll get him back at vet minimum in two seasons when Jacksonville cuts him.
M'Kevon
03-14-2012, 06:05 PM
I am too, although I wish we had worked out a deal before FA... I think we could have signed him for MUCH less...
I hate seeing good players and quality individuals going to other teams...
He was really good for us last year and had a great attitude...
Even with a decent agent, there was no way he would sign for much less. Too much cap room out there to not take a look into FA.
ABQCOWBOY
03-14-2012, 06:05 PM
I'm glad to see Laurent get paid. I think he's a good guy who has worked hard to carve out some success. I'm always going to pull for those kinds of people and gain a measure of happiness when they achieve some success.
Honestly thou, is anybody really surprised at this after the comments Shahid Khan made about the Cowboys recently. I suspect that that guy was set on signing Laurent away from us at just about any cost. So much for his spiel on the whole over spending thing.
http://nbcsportsmedia4.msnbc.com/j/MSNBC/Components/Photo/_new/111214_shahid_khan.nbcsports-story-612.jpg
Here's hoping that Radway is coming along nicely and that he's everything he looked to be prior to his injury.
UncFelix28
03-14-2012, 06:10 PM
Patrick Crayton anyone? lol
BraveHeartFan
03-14-2012, 06:10 PM
Wow, he got paid.
Yeah. Shame to lose him but I figured we would. He was a nice surprise last year. Too bad we couldn't get him back.
Good money move, awful career move.
bevo11
03-14-2012, 06:11 PM
This doesnt bother me. We need to find a way to get the ball to Dez more anyway. Dez is a beast and we are using him to his full potential.
Risen Star
03-14-2012, 06:11 PM
Good money move, awful career move.
I'm having visions of Alvin Harper.
casmith07
03-14-2012, 06:12 PM
Good luck out there, Laurent. Tell Blaine Gabbert I said whats up.
cobra
03-14-2012, 06:15 PM
Oh, so my hopes of 3 for 12 didn't quite cut it.
That's fine. Good for Laurent.
As far as #3 WR, I'd like to see Dwayne Harris step up. I think the has something to help with. I see him as a damn good fit in the slot and underneath.
That is, until our future is ready: Devon Wylie.
Devon! Devon! Devon!
percyhoward
03-14-2012, 06:16 PM
This doesnt bother me. We need to find a way to get the ball to Dez more anyway. Dez is a beast and we are using him to his full potential.
Between Miles, Dez, Witten, the new #3, and an improved OL with a new line coach, we should be able to find those 11 TD.
Should.
Kristi
03-14-2012, 06:16 PM
Bummed he is gone. I was hoping we would keep him, but not at that kind of money. Good for him for in getting a good contract.
casmith07
03-14-2012, 06:16 PM
I would have signed that deal without batting an eye even if I wanted to stay in Dallas.
sefswim
03-14-2012, 06:19 PM
If the Broncos get Manning and the Jags get Tebow he'll be lucky to get 20 catches.
sonnyboy
03-14-2012, 06:19 PM
I hope no Jags fans come here to gauge how we feel about the signing.
The feel of this thread is that last thing I believe they'd want to see........
"Wow! That's a lot of money, good luck to him."
What they want to see is more like..........
"dam those Jags, they stole Robinson. Why couldn't cheap *** Jerry find a way to keep him?"
jobberone
03-14-2012, 06:20 PM
He should send Tony Romo and Jason Garrett a mil a piece.
Risen Star
03-14-2012, 06:21 PM
He should send Tony Romo and Jason Garrett a mil a piece.
Truth.
Doomsday101
03-14-2012, 06:21 PM
Good luck Robinson I wish your stay would have been longer but hey 5 years 32 million you got to do what you got to do.
Kilyin
03-14-2012, 06:22 PM
This really makes me sad. Oh well. See my sig for your #3 or #2 when Austin gets a leg cramp and is out for 2 months. Yeah, I'm jaded.
Good for him...seems like a good dude, had some injury issues. I don't want to say he can't be successful without Romo, but I don't know if he can be successful with Gabbert (from what I saw of him last year)
I may be the only one, but I would be happy to give Crayton a look if he is available. We don't have anyone who is close to being a 3rd receiver right now. Once again, we are stuck with hoping someone will step up.
Kilyin
03-14-2012, 06:28 PM
Good for him...seems like a good dude, had some injury issues. I don't want to say he can't be successful without Romo, but I don't know if he can be successful with Gabbert (from what I saw of him last year)
I don't recall him ever being injured here, but I could be wrong. Austin and Bryant on the other hand...
I'm just ventin.
Oh_Canada
03-14-2012, 06:32 PM
I don't recall him ever being injured here, but I could be wrong. Austin and Bryant on the other hand...
I'm just ventin.
He was in Dallas a half year....he didn't have enough time to get hurt.
Good player, no question....but way out of Dallas' price range to be a third wr.
burmafrd
03-14-2012, 06:34 PM
he stepped up large when we needed him so I am glad to see him get paid. Sounds like we only offered $10 million guaranteed vs the $14 million the jags offered. He had to take it
Kilyin
03-14-2012, 06:35 PM
He was in Dallas a half year....he didn't have enough time to get hurt.
Good player, no question....but way out of Dallas' price range to be a third wr.
The guy is a #2 at the very least. We have nothing behind Bryant and Austin. Heavy duty Rueage going on here. I just hate discovering a gem like Robinson only to see him get snatched away. I'll get over it, some day.
He should send Tony Romo and Dez Bryant a mil a piece.
fixed
mperfection
03-14-2012, 06:41 PM
Sometimes a bird in hand beats two in a bush! 2 years from now, when we're STILL looking for a solid (and healthy) option to Miles, Robinson's deal won't look so expensive.
The reality is that he was arguably our best receiver--production wise--over the course of the season. He stayed healthy. He had an obvious chemistry with his QB. He knows the playbook (unlike Dez), knows HOW to run routes (unlike Dez at times), is a consummate professional (unlike Dez), and may be just coming into his own.
The lack of a quality QB next year in Jacksonville may make him look like a FA bust, which won't be his fault at all. If we weren't in such bad cap shape, I may have thought about matching Jacksonville's offer. Now, we HAVE to find a viable 3rd WR who could also be a solid #2 receiver in the event that Miles or Dez goes down for a game or 2 (or 3 or 4), which is highly probable.
Based on his production last year, which I don't think would have been a 1 year wonder, his contract won't look so bad in 2 years.
Rockytop6
03-14-2012, 06:42 PM
Jacksonville reached agreement with former Dallas free-agent wide receiver Laurent Robinson on a five-year, $32.5 million deal.
I really liked him and wanted him back but not anywhere near that price!
We might have somebody on roster that could step up and make a difference. I liked Robinson because of the connection he and Romo had.
Anybody still out there in FA that could replace him at a much cheaper price? Draft?
percyhoward
03-14-2012, 06:51 PM
The guy is a #2 at the very least. We have nothing behind Bryant and Austin. Heavy duty Rueage going on here. I just hate discovering a gem like Robinson only to see him get snatched away. I'll get over it, some day.
Robinson walked into a perfect storm of opportunity (for both himself and the team) in Dallas.
Issues on the OL meant we couldn't run in the red zone, and also meant Romo had to move around alot and buy time. Robinson proved to Romo that he would keep working get open, and Romo started looking for him in those situations. An improved OL should keep us out of a lot of those situations in the red zone.
It's funny reading the Jags forum, they're excited about Robinson as a deep threat, but in Dallas only 9 of his 54 catches were thrown over 20 yards in the air.
dadymat
03-14-2012, 06:51 PM
Sometimes a bird in hand beats two in a bush! 2 years from now, when we're STILL looking for a solid (and healthy) option to Miles, Robinson's deal won't look so expensive.
The reality is that he was arguably our best receiver--production wise--over the course of the season. He stayed healthy. He had an obvious chemistry with his QB. He knows the playbook (unlike Dez), knows HOW to run routes (unlike Dez at times), is a consummate professional (unlike Dez), and may be just coming into his own.
The lack of a quality QB next year in Jacksonville may make him look like a FA bust, which won't be his fault at all. If we weren't in such bad cap shape, I may have thought about matching Jacksonville's offer. Now, we HAVE to find a viable 3rd WR who could also be a solid #2 receiver in the event that Miles or Dez goes down for a game or 2 (or 3 or 4), which is highly probable.
Based on his production last year, which I don't think would have been a 1 year wonder, his contract won't look so bad in 2 years.
dont yall realize how much a fool you make out of yourselves pulling the health card out in favor of a player who has missed 26 games the last 5 seasons.....he has missed 3 times more games than Dez and Austin combined yet yall act like he is the poster child for durability....foolish rue age.....this time next year he will be known for exactly what he is one hit wonder JAG
Randy White
03-14-2012, 06:53 PM
fantastic news for him. Nothing but the best for LR and much thanks for his contributions..
ravidubey
03-14-2012, 06:54 PM
Get a role player via free agency and draft a WR. This draft is crazy deep with wideouts.
Leadbelly
03-14-2012, 06:55 PM
Too bad we weren't allowed to resign him before the FA period. He probably would have jumped at $2.5m at one time.
The WR market went overboard thanks to everyone's favorite Washington DC midget. I don't think anyone was expecting 50 yd/game WRs to break the bank.
Good luck to LR. We'll catch him on the way back down when the Jags find out Gabbert isn't Romo.
CATCH17
03-14-2012, 06:56 PM
Jags will cut him eventually and he'll be a Cowboy again someday.
I think with Dez and Miles here LR got more single coverage than he will be seeing in Jacksonville.
Man, I was really hoping we could keep him.
jjktkk
03-14-2012, 07:02 PM
I wonder what their reaction will be when he suddenly isn't any good for them.
You sure are one pessimistic dude. Are you ever a ray of sunshine?
SDogo
03-14-2012, 07:02 PM
He has a new QB.............Chad Henne
Randy White
03-14-2012, 07:10 PM
If the Cowboys are looking for some receiver help in the 3rd or 4th round ( 4th round might be a little to late ), this guy has tons of potential as a receiver AND returner:
http://cdn.bleacherreport.com/images_root/image_pictures/0555/7530/hilton2_crop_340x234.jpg
T.Y. Hilton, Florida International University.
and if not him, then a bit more down the the draft:
http://www.stateofthetexans.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Travis-Benjamin.jpg
Travis Benjamin, UM.
love both of them randy white.
cowboys shouldn't worry about receiver right now. plenty of options in the draft.
RoyTheHammer
03-14-2012, 07:12 PM
Wish him the best. 6 million a year? I would have matched that and brought him back.
Kilyin
03-14-2012, 07:12 PM
love both of them randy white.
cowboys shouldn't worry about receiver right now. plenty of options in the draft.
If we draft a receiver in the first couple rounds on top of this I will absolutely lose it. Way too many other holes to fill on this team.
5Stars
03-14-2012, 07:13 PM
You sure are one pessimistic dude. Are you ever a ray of sunshine?
:laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2:
(stupid cowboy fans)
Maybe she went outside. Always mad all the time.
SDCowboy85
03-14-2012, 07:14 PM
You sure are one pessimistic dude. Are you ever a ray of sunshine?
It's not pessimism. Robinson was a product of Romo. That's a fact, not being pessimistic.
ghettogandhi
03-14-2012, 07:17 PM
yup nice knowing you man...Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Jacksonville reached agreement with former Dallas free-agent wide receiver Laurent Robinson on a five-year, $32.5 million deal.
How does this impact our supplemental picks for 2013?
ANYONE ADAM?l
Doomsday101
03-14-2012, 07:18 PM
It's not pessimism. Robinson was a product of Romo. That's a fact, not being pessimistic.
Robinson did a good job he was not a product of Romo. No more than Romo was a product of TO. It takes a QB and a WR to get on the same page and make plays.
Fletch
03-14-2012, 07:19 PM
I am okay with this.
Tony made you! Fogedaboutit!
SDCowboy85
03-14-2012, 07:19 PM
Robinson did a good job he was not a product of Romo. No more than Romo was a product of TO. It takes a QB and a WR to get on the same page and make plays.
I guess we'll see. I doubt we hear much from Robinson again though from over there.
Doomsday101
03-14-2012, 07:23 PM
I guess we'll see. I doubt we hear much from Robinson again though from over there.
You don't hear much about Jag WR and unless Blaine Gabbert improves and they give him some protection chances are it will be hard on Robinson and the other WR. Romo got him the ball but Robinson has to run the routs had to know when to break the rout off and get open and make the catch. QB\WR play go hand in hand. Robinson career has been plauged with injury but then hell it took Miles Austin some time as well before he showed his ability
SDCowboy85
03-14-2012, 07:27 PM
You don't hear much about Jag WR and unless Blaine Gabbert improves and they give him some protection chances are it will be hard on Robinson and the other WR. Romo got him the ball but Robinson has to run the routs had to know when to break the rout off and get open and make the catch. QB\WR play go hand in hand. Robinson career has been plauged with injury but then hell it took Miles Austin some time as well before he showed his ability
I disagree on him...but if he is a great as you think he is, and he's not just a product of Romo, then we made a horrible mistake letting him go. Obviously the Cowboys don't see him quite in the same light. Regardless, I wish he was still on the team.
It's unfortunate, but what can you do? We couldn't match that kind of contract for the role he has here, and Laurent can't give up that once-in-a-lifetime offer.
Bold prediction: He'll be back on the market two years from now.
Doomsday101
03-14-2012, 07:32 PM
I disagree on him...but if he is a great as you think he is, and he's not just a product of Romo, then we made a horrible mistake letting him go. Obviously the Cowboys don't see him quite in the same light. Regardless, I wish he was still on the team.
Dallas could not afford to pay 5 years 32 mill when he is behind Dez and Austin. Garrett wanted to keep him and they stayed in contact with him but in the end he was handed an offer he could not refuse. Hell if he did we have drug test him.
5Stars
03-14-2012, 07:33 PM
I disagree on him...but if he is a great as you think he is, and he's not just a product of Romo, then we made a horrible mistake letting him go. Obviously the Cowboys don't see him quite in the same light. Regardless, I wish he was still on the team.
Me too...but he's gone now. Hopefully/maybe the Cowboys will use a draft pick on a receiver?
You worry too much!
:p:
Doomsday101
03-14-2012, 07:34 PM
It's unfortunate, but what can you do? We couldn't match that kind of contract for the role he has here, and Laurent can't give up that once-in-a-lifetime offer.
Bold prediction: He'll be back on the market two years from now.
Of course not, it is a business and for that kind of cash he would be foolish not to take it. He has a young QB in Jacksonville and he struggled but then hey Troy struggled until we started putting weapons around him and protection in front.
Doomsay
03-14-2012, 07:37 PM
Good for him, he made the most of a 1 season opportunity.
he is an example of a smart player not needing 2-3 training camps to learn a system.
5Stars
03-14-2012, 07:39 PM
Good for him, he made the most of a 1 season opportunity.
he is an example of a smart player not needing 2-3 training camps to learn a system.
Right on...
:star:
Galian Beast
03-14-2012, 07:46 PM
Reminds me of Deon Branch.
SDCowboy85
03-14-2012, 07:46 PM
Me too...but he's gone now. Hopefully/maybe the Cowboys will use a draft pick on a receiver?
You worry too much!
:p:
Ugh, I know I worry too much. Trust me. :laugh2:
snapper
03-14-2012, 07:48 PM
I wonder what their reaction will be when he suddenly isn't any good for them.
He'll be in a Cowboys uniform next year after the Jags cut him. :D
sacase
03-14-2012, 07:51 PM
Wow!!! Can't blame him for taking that offer, he would be a fool not to. I wish him luck and I think he will have a fair career. He will be taken care of for life now!
Section444
03-14-2012, 07:56 PM
Can't blame the guy for going with the money; just means that Bryant is going to have to pull his head out of his *** an finally start living up to the hype.
Hostile
03-14-2012, 07:58 PM
Chad Henne just signed there as his new QB most likely.
Sitting Bull
03-14-2012, 07:58 PM
I am absolutely floored by this number. I LOVED that player. But he was a street FA because of nagging injuries and he benefited mightily from being the 4th/5th option on a wide open offense run by an all-pro QB. I wish him the best but dang, that's a big gamble.
I want Chaz Schilens to be our next low-cost reclaimation project.
Doomsday101
03-14-2012, 07:59 PM
I am absolutely floored by this number. I LOVED that player. But he was a street FA because of nagging injuries and he benefited mightily from being the 4th/5th option on a wide open offense run by an all-pro QB. I wish him the best but dang, that's a big gamble.
I want Chaz Schilens to be our next low-cost reclaimation project.
Not exactly true, Miles was missing a lot of time Robinson and Dez were line up 1 and 2. Robinson did a good job, deserve credit for his own play
Sitting Bull
03-14-2012, 08:06 PM
Not exactly true, Miles was missing a lot of time Robinson and Dez were line up 1 and 2. Robinson did a good job, deserve credit for his own play
And Murray was on fire and Witten was on the field, making him 4th priority for defense. Obviously, he had an amazing year and showed a real nose for the end zone. But it was one year and he's going to be expected to do a lot more on a much worse offense. Love the player, just shocked at the gamble.
Doomsday101
03-14-2012, 08:09 PM
And Murray was on fire and Witten was on the field, making him 4th priority for defense. Obviously, he had an amazing year and showed a real nose for the end zone. But it was one year and he's going to be expected to do a lot more on a much worse offense. Love the player, just shocked at the gamble.
I agree Dallas could not sign him for what Jacksonville signed him for when you have Dez and Austin ahead of him. I just think the guy deserves the credit for the job he did while here instead of people claiming it was not him or his own talents.
Maybe it is a way for some to dimish the loss of losing him but as far I'm concerned he went out and did a good job for this team and deserves the credit
Eskimo
03-14-2012, 08:10 PM
To the deaf ears of the forum I suggested that if Robinson hit the open market that we would be outbid by a WR desperate team that would pay him a premium #2 WR salary that we could not match. This is exactly what happened.
I think Jerry is to blame for this one. There is no reason to sign a guy like this off the street to a 1-year deal. What would be the harm of inking him to a 3-year deal with minimum salary. At that point Robinson had no other bidders so he would have signed the deal. If we didn't want him after a year we could release him in the offseason and be no worse off than if we had signed him to the 1-year deal. By signing him to the 1-year and done deal where we were banned from extending him during the season we guaranteed ourselves a bidding war if we resurrected his career which means no long-term upside to the signing at all.
Jerry constantly maintains this short-term focus to football operations that is killing us as a franchise. He rarely extends young players before they have made a Pro Bowl. He rarely extends any young player until the very end of their rookie deal where their salary demands go way up. OTOH, he has no qualms about giving 28-32 year old players premium contracts even after they have shown signs of slowing down (Jay Ratliff, Jason Witten, Flo Adams, Terence Newman, Leonard Davis, Marco Rivera).
Now this year he has finally shown that the light bulb has at least partially gone off with the signing of Carr as a young, good CB. However, he made the mistake of franchising Spencer which grabs more than half of our available cap space in FA for a mediocre player. I'd rather us sign mediocre players to mediocre salaries or try to replace such players with premium draft picks who have a shot at improving the team.
I do hope that before all is said and done he inks some stopgap vets to reasonable deals to fill the cavernous holes on this roster and continues the recent trend of good draft picks. However, I remain unconvinced that he knows how to put together a solid roster and understand how to properly work within the confines of the salary cap system.
Eskimo
03-14-2012, 08:12 PM
I agree Dallas could not sign him for what Jacksonville signed him for when you have Dez and Austin ahead of him. I just think the guy deserves the credit for the job he did while here instead of people claiming it was not him or his own talents.
Maybe it is a way for some to dimish the loss of losing him but as far I'm concerned he went out and did a good job for this team and deserves the credit
I have no major bone to pick with Robinson.
Jerry is the one who signed him to that moronic deal which ensured we could not extend him during the season. He signed a deal with no possible upside for us outside of a late round compensatory pick.
Kilyin
03-14-2012, 08:12 PM
Jerry constantly maintains this short-term focus to football operations that is killing us as a franchise. He rarely extends young players before they have made a Pro Bowl. He rarely extends any young player until the very end of their rookie deal where their salary demands go way up. OTOH, he has no qualms about giving 28-32 year old players premium contracts even after they have shown signs of slowing down (Jay Ratliff, Jason Witten, Flo Adams, Terence Newman, Leonard Davis, Marco Rivera, Roy Williamsx2, Marion Barber).
FTFY.
I never use this emoticon, but you earned it...
:hammer:
Doomsday101
03-14-2012, 08:14 PM
I have no major bone to pick with Robinson.
Jerry is the one who signed him to that moronic deal which ensured we could not extend him during the season. He signed a deal with no possible upside for us outside of a late round compensatory pick.
BS, you guys would have been screaming if a guy in week 2 of the season was given a 3 year deal. You look to blame Jerry for any and all things good for you I'm sick of the whiners how about the fact they signed him to start with?
Doomsday101
03-14-2012, 08:16 PM
I never use this emoticon, but you earned it...
:hammer:
another one you live to whine. Robinson would not even been here had Jerry not signed him to begin with. I don't recall anyone hollering what a great signing he was. Now after the fact Jerry should have given him a better deal? You guys are something else.
Sitting Bull
03-14-2012, 08:25 PM
To the deaf ears of the forum I suggested that if Robinson hit the open market that we would be outbid by a WR desperate team that would pay him a premium #2 WR salary that we could not match. This is exactly what happened.
I think Jerry is to blame for this one. There is no reason to sign a guy like this off the street to a 1-year deal. What would be the harm of inking him to a 3-year deal with minimum salary. At that point Robinson had no other bidders so he would have signed the deal. If we didn't want him after a year we could release him in the offseason and be no worse off than if we had signed him to the 1-year deal. By signing him to the 1-year and done deal where we were banned from extending him during the season we guaranteed ourselves a bidding war if we resurrected his career which means no long-term upside to the signing at all.
Jerry constantly maintains this short-term focus to football operations that is killing us as a franchise. He rarely extends young players before they have made a Pro Bowl. He rarely extends any young player until the very end of their rookie deal where their salary demands go way up. OTOH, he has no qualms about giving 28-32 year old players premium contracts even after they have shown signs of slowing down (Jay Ratliff, Jason Witten, Flo Adams, Terence Newman, Leonard Davis, Marco Rivera).
Now this year he has finally shown that the light bulb has at least partially gone off with the signing of Carr as a young, good CB. However, he made the mistake of franchising Spencer which grabs more than half of our available cap space in FA for a mediocre player. I'd rather us sign mediocre players to mediocre salaries or try to replace such players with premium draft picks who have a shot at improving the team.
I do hope that before all is said and done he inks some stopgap vets to reasonable deals to fill the cavernous holes on this roster and continues the recent trend of good draft picks. However, I remain unconvinced that he knows how to put together a solid roster and understand how to properly work within the confines of the salary cap system.
Well stated, but I can't blame Jerry for this one. In 2011, the Chargers re-signed Malcolm Floyd for 2yr/$5m, a year after he'd single-handedly bailed them out of the VJax tantrum. We would've paid to keep Robinson. But he got Sidney Rice WR1 money (5/$41m) to go to a very similar offensive situation and could deliver a similar result.
Eskimo- would you be in for 3-yrs on Schilens? I think he's the same player Robinson was this time last year.
Eskimo
03-14-2012, 08:37 PM
another one you live to whine. Robinson would not even been here had Jerry not signed him to begin with. I don't recall anyone hollering what a great signing he was. Now after the fact Jerry should have given him a better deal? You guys are something else.
This is not true - many people liked the pickup at the time. He was a pet cat of many of the board members from his original draft year.
Furthermore, many people really liked him from his first game and that picked up with each and every passing game. Many of us called for extending him right away after we saw him on the field. The only thing was Jerry's deal made that impossible.
I really think there is very little downside to signing a guy like this with huge upside to a 3-year min deal. If you turn his career around you reap a huge reward. With him being on the street, I don't think he or his agent is going to quibble too much about going from unemployed to $600K. The contract was inked with no possible upside for us and we lost out again in FA.
Jerry and Stephen still have no idea about how to run a football operation and would have been fired long ago for their incompetence under normal circumstances.
brett2223
03-14-2012, 08:37 PM
This is just insane!!!
alancdc
03-14-2012, 08:42 PM
Dang, Romo got him paid!
dadymat
03-14-2012, 08:42 PM
To the deaf ears of the forum I suggested that if Robinson hit the open market that we would be outbid by a WR desperate team that would pay him a premium #2 WR salary that we could not match. This is exactly what happened.
I think Jerry is to blame for this one. There is no reason to sign a guy like this off the street to a 1-year deal. What would be the harm of inking him to a 3-year deal with minimum salary. At that point Robinson had no other bidders so he would have signed the deal. If we didn't want him after a year we could release him in the offseason and be no worse off than if we had signed him to the 1-year deal. By signing him to the 1-year and done deal where we were banned from extending him during the season we guaranteed ourselves a bidding war if we resurrected his career which means no long-term upside to the signing at all.
Jerry constantly maintains this short-term focus to football operations that is killing us as a franchise. He rarely extends young players before they have made a Pro Bowl. He rarely extends any young player until the very end of their rookie deal where their salary demands go way up. OTOH, he has no qualms about giving 28-32 year old players premium contracts even after they have shown signs of slowing down (Jay Ratliff, Jason Witten, Flo Adams, Terence Newman, Leonard Davis, Marco Rivera).
Now this year he has finally shown that the light bulb has at least partially gone off with the signing of Carr as a young, good CB. However, he made the mistake of franchising Spencer which grabs more than half of our available cap space in FA for a mediocre player. I'd rather us sign mediocre players to mediocre salaries or try to replace such players with premium draft picks who have a shot at improving the team.
I do hope that before all is said and done he inks some stopgap vets to reasonable deals to fill the cavernous holes on this roster and continues the recent trend of good draft picks. However, I remain unconvinced that he knows how to put together a solid roster and understand how to properly work within the confines of the salary cap system.
lol.....so Jerry should have rushed to sign a busted up failure of a WR off the streets to long term deal without ever seeing him produce?.... way to reach..... :lmao:
rynochop
03-14-2012, 08:43 PM
BS, you guys would have been screaming if a guy in week 2 of the season was given a 3 year deal. You look to blame Jerry for any and all things good for you I'm sick of the whiners how about the fact they signed him to start with?
A to the men. Good lord some people amaze me.
dadymat
03-14-2012, 08:44 PM
FTFY.
I never use this emoticon, but you earned it...
:hammer:
i never use this emoticon , but yOUVE earned it :rake:
Sitting Bull
03-14-2012, 08:46 PM
Furthermore, many people really liked him from his first game and that picked up with each and every passing game. Many of us called for extending him right away after we saw him on the field. The only thing was Jerry's deal made that impossible.
I really think there is very little downside to signing a guy like this with huge upside to a 3-year min deal. If you turn his career around you reap a huge reward. With him being on the street, I don't think he or his agent is going to quibble too much about going from unemployed to $600K. The contract was inked with no possible upside for us and we lost out again in FA.
Jerry and Stephen still have no idea about how to run a football operation and would have been fired long ago for their incompetence under normal circumstances.
I recall us playing "roster Roulette" with him and Fiametta (maybe a couple of times) before he played. You don't give a 3-yr deal to a bubble player. We didn't know what we had even when we had him. But neither did every other GM.
Romo 2 Austin
03-14-2012, 09:01 PM
Jaguars sign WR Laurent Robinson (5 years, $32.5M; $14M guaranteed):
I'm glad we did not match that.
Doomsay
03-14-2012, 09:04 PM
To the deaf ears of the forum I suggested that if Robinson hit the open market that we would be outbid by a WR desperate team that would pay him a premium #2 WR salary that we could not match. This is exactly what happened.
I think Jerry is to blame for this one. There is no reason to sign a guy like this off the street to a 1-year deal. What would be the harm of inking him to a 3-year deal with minimum salary. At that point Robinson had no other bidders so he would have signed the deal. If we didn't want him after a year we could release him in the offseason and be no worse off than if we had signed him to the 1-year deal. By signing him to the 1-year and done deal where we were banned from extending him during the season we guaranteed ourselves a bidding war if we resurrected his career which means no long-term upside to the signing at all.
Jerry constantly maintains this short-term focus to football operations that is killing us as a franchise. He rarely extends young players before they have made a Pro Bowl. He rarely extends any young player until the very end of their rookie deal where their salary demands go way up. OTOH, he has no qualms about giving 28-32 year old players premium contracts even after they have shown signs of slowing down (Jay Ratliff, Jason Witten, Flo Adams, Terence Newman, Leonard Davis, Marco Rivera).
Now this year he has finally shown that the light bulb has at least partially gone off with the signing of Carr as a young, good CB. However, he made the mistake of franchising Spencer which grabs more than half of our available cap space in FA for a mediocre player. I'd rather us sign mediocre players to mediocre salaries or try to replace such players with premium draft picks who have a shot at improving the team.
I do hope that before all is said and done he inks some stopgap vets to reasonable deals to fill the cavernous holes on this roster and continues the recent trend of good draft picks. However, I remain uncoEnvinced that he knows how to put together a solid roster and understand how to properly work within the confines of the salary cap system.
Excellent post - the downside on the 3 year deal is so minimal for a guy like Robinson - yet captures the upside.
Sportsbabe
03-14-2012, 09:06 PM
I am okay with this.
I'm pissed.
brett2223
03-14-2012, 09:06 PM
8 mil a year!! This guy was a walk on!! Enjoy jags!! This is a joke!!!
RastaRocket
03-14-2012, 09:10 PM
He can thank Romo, Dez, Miles, Witten for the pay day.
Eskimo
03-14-2012, 09:17 PM
lol.....so Jerry should have rushed to sign a busted up failure of a WR off the streets to long term deal without ever seeing him produce?.... way to reach..... :lmao:
What rush? He was signed off the street after the first week.
What is the downside of a 3-year minimum deal without a signing bonus? He can be cut after the first year without any salary cap impact.
This way if we happen to latch onto a good player we can keep him for awhile before exposing him to FA.
Very soon after he hit the field you could hear all the zoners cyring out for an extension for the kid only to find out Jerry's deal had boxed us into having to compete for him as a FA at the end of the year.
So the deal helped us out last year but the upside of hitting on a guy like this was also completely wiped out for us because of the terms of the deal.
When you're going to regularly handle extensions and FA as poorly as Jones does you have to occasionally luck out with a find like this. Unfortunately Jones' deal made sure this would not happen.
There is a reason he has only managed one playoff victory in the last 15 years. This is only one example of his incompetent roster management. He couldn't even parlay finding a franchise QB as a UDFA, finding a Pro Bowl WR as a UDFA and drafting the best defensive player in the league into anything more than 2 playoff appearances in 5 years. If he hadn't stumbled into those opportunities (and finding Pro Bowl talent in the UDFA market is more lucking out than great scouting - otherwise you would have drafted them) we would be looking at one playoff appearance in 12 years and zero victories.
It is such a shame that he can't see his own incompetence and step out of the way and hire a GM who can put a football team out there that this franchise deserves.
rynochop
03-14-2012, 10:20 PM
Wow, I.ll set the over/under at 850 yards and say 7 tds. And if Tebow somehow ends up there, by manning going to the broncs, knock about 20% off that. For 8 mil a year.
And if this was such a bad roster signing move why didn't anyone else give a 3 yr deal..or bring him on at all.
dreghorn2
03-15-2012, 01:07 AM
Eskimo really does have a point.
The downside of signing almost any player, in a similar situation, to a 2 or 3 year deal is so minimal that it should be the norm.
The upside is so significant it's worth the small risk.
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