FWST: Mac Engel: Dallas Cowboys should trade for Tim Tebow

[WoodysGirl]

Tim Tebow is available, which means the next time he "Tebows" it needs to be in a Dallas Cowboys uniform.

Monday's news that Peyton Manning plans to sign a free agent deal to become the next quarterback of the Broncos means that Tebow Mania in Denver is officially dead.

The two guys running the Broncos -- president John Elway and coach John Fox -- never wanted Tebow, and now they can trade one of the league's biggest stars with zero fear of what would otherwise would have been Frankenstein-like reprisal.

This should be a buyer's market for the rights to Tebow, and Jerry Jones needs to be interested, more for his football team than his marketing team.
Stupid, right? But hear me out on this.

Read more here: http://www.star-telegram.com/2012/03/19/3821291/dallas-cowboys-should-trade-for.html#storylink=cpy

[WoodysGirl]

Mar 208:00AM ETEmailPrintComments663

By Dan Graziano

Mac Engel thinks the Cowboys should trade for Tim Tebow. I think Mac's argument is unsound. It is based, as are so many unsound Cowboys-related argument, on the tired premise that "Yeah, Tony Romo is really good, but they haven't won with him," as though Romo were supposed to magically appear on the field and tackle the Giants fullbacks who were all jumping over Terence Newman on New Year's Day. The Cowboys have a plan, and it appears to be a good one, and I can't see a legitimate way in which Tebow fits into it. Especially if he's going to cost draft picks.

Read more: http://espn.go.com/blog/nfceast/post/_/id/37256/breakfast-links-redskins-not-going-quietly

[CCBoy]

Dan Graziano has a better use of applied principals at work...and generally presents them as such. But the them of constant drama is way past old, and adds very little to the actual consumption of a fan along lines of sport.

I hate Soap Operas, and don't like it mixed in with my football.

Tim Tebow should now stick with Denver, and become a tight end...

[cowboy_ron]

:bang2:

[arglebargle]

"Stupid, right?" Yes...you at least got that part right Mac....

[MichaelWinicki]

Very stupid Mac.

[CCBoy]

Very stupid Mac.

Concensus....:cool:

[Dallas]

Seriously, is anyone REALLY surprised?

Mac and his "hunk" of a wife are just flat out bad in todays sports world. It is true about the "soap opera" writing style.

I guess you have to do that when you really dont know what your talking about.


People actually SUBSCRIBE to this nonsense too. :rolleyes:

[Woods]

Yhea, we should sign Tebow to play H-Back.

He'd probably be pretty good in that role.

[Juke99]

anything just to get read.

What utter nonsense.

[Zimmy Lives]

Article noted and filed away. Thanks Mac!

[bbailey423]

what a first class moron. Yet another person who does not realize that the MAIN reason Dallas has been competetive since 2007 is Romo. Not many QBs ( I would argue 5 or 6) could have done any better with this team. And the ones that are better do not necessarily have the mobility to make something out of nothing like Romo does....nor do they play behind a ZERO for an OL...nor do they have WRs that don't run the right routes or no where to line up. Not to mention the pressure cooker of being the QB of the Dallas Cowboys. For Romo to do what he did last year with this choking dog defense....is top 5 stuff. Is he the best? No! Could the best have done much better (Rogers, Brady, Brees)...perhaps.

[InmanRoshi]

FWST: Mac Engel: Please Put Eyeballs On My Newspaper.

[Vanilla2]

Bring him in give him a number in the 40's and never let him line up behind center in anything othe than the wildcat. Even then it's a bad idea. If I ever see that man in a cowboys uniform with a quarterbacks number and Tony Romo os on the team that is the last day on my Cowboy fandom. That's the day I know for a fact the team I've grown up loving is dead.

[mmillman]

no, it would be stupid. the only way it makes any sense is if you plan to sit him until Romo's contract is up and develop his technique. His accuracy is terrible and the team becomes one dimensional with him.

[RS12]

I'll guess Jerry sees a money making opportunity in Tebow and it has crossed his mind.

[ABQCOWBOY]

I've thought about this since the day Manning was linked to Denver. At first, I was against this idea because I just felt like we could not afford it. Now, I am not so sure. I don't know what the asking price is but I think that it might be wise to look into this idea. We have Orton on the team as a backup and Romo is the starter for the foreseeable future but there will be a point in the next few years where Romo will start to decline and Orton will either become too expensive or will decide that he wants to start. A player like Tebow could be a very valuable asset. Tebow has proven that he can win in this league. No question that he needs to improve his ability to throw and his mechanics need work but what better situation to learn then in Dallas? The signing of Orton is signal, IMO, that the club is not in favor of keeping McGee. This year would have been the year for him and it wasn't. If we are going to use a pick on a QB anyway, why not see what we might be able to work out with Tebow?

This situation actually reminds me a lot of the Montana/Young situation years ago. Young was a much more developed passer IMO but Tebow and Young have some similarities.

[CCBoy]

I've thought about this since the day Manning was linked to Denver. At first, I was against this idea because I just felt like we could not afford it. Now, I am not so sure. I don't know what the asking price is but I think that it might be wise to look into this idea. We have Orton on the team as a backup and Romo is the starter for the foreseeable future but there will be a point in the next few years where Romo will start to decline and Orton will either become too expensive or will decide that he wants to start. A player like Tebow could be a very valuable asset. Tebow has proven that he can win in this league. No question that he needs to improve his ability to throw and his mechanics need work but what better situation to learn then in Dallas? The signing of Orton is signal, IMO, that the club is not in favor of keeping McGee. This year would have been the year for him and it wasn't. If we are going to use a pick on a QB anyway, why not see what we might be able to work out with Tebow?

This situation actually reminds me a lot of the Montana/Young situation years ago. Young was a much more developed passer IMO but Tebow and Young have some similarities.

You left out a Doug Flutie comparison...:)

[Vanilla2]

I've thought about this since the day Manning was linked to Denver. At first, I was against this idea because I just felt like we could not afford it. Now, I am not so sure. I don't know what the asking price is but I think that it might be wise to look into this idea. We have Orton on the team as a backup and Romo is the starter for the foreseeable future but there will be a point in the next few years where Romo will start to decline and Orton will either become too expensive or will decide that he wants to start. A player like Tebow could be a very valuable asset. Tebow has proven that he can win in this league. No question that he needs to improve his ability to throw and his mechanics need work but what better situation to learn then in Dallas? The signing of Orton is signal, IMO, that the club is not in favor of keeping McGee. This year would have been the year for him and it wasn't. If we are going to use a pick on a QB anyway, why not see what we might be able to work out with Tebow?

This situation actually reminds me a lot of the Montana/Young situation years ago. Young was a much more developed passer IMO but Tebow and Young have some similarities.

jugding by your screen name I am assuming you're in Albuquerque. And being that you are in Albuquerque you've probably seen the broncos during "Tebows" winning streak since they are on tv every week. You have to admit a ton of stuff went the broncos way stuff that in reality is rather flukey. As much as dislike Young it's disrespectful to him as a QB to put Tebow in the same sentence as Steve. Take a step back and look at the Tebow phenomenon as objectively as possible because you've obviously bought into the hype.

[burmafrd]

The games Tebow won everything that mattered went the Bronco's way. Their D showed up and their O line got it done and they ran the ball.

And what happened when the Bronco's could not do all of that?

And I mean ALL Of that?

They lost.

Frankly they won in spite of Tebow. did anyone bother to look up his first half stats from all those games?

And who did they beat? Mostly losers. Good teams would have taken advantage of Tebow's lousy first half's to put the game out of reach.

[big dog cowboy]

JMO but he is the most overrated player in the league today. And there is no reason for him to be on the Cowboys roster.

[jobberone]

I would have to give some consideration to signing him as a FA. But I doubt I could justify having him here. It certainly wouldn't be as a 'regular' QB. And I would never trade any pick for him. He would be a luxury to have as a situational player. I don't see even that here.

[DFWJC]

Not that my opinion of Engel was very high, but it has taken a free-fall after this. :eek:

I don't agree with bringing the circus to town for any reason. But for reasons at all related to Romo's performance (vs maybe a redzone threat or other ideas) really makes Engel look like an idiot.

I don't see the upside under any scenario...even if it was for free. And I actually like Tebow the person just fine.

[ABQCOWBOY]

You left out a Doug Flutie comparison...:)


Sorry.

:laugh2:

[Hostile]

Can I bash our DFW media about this? Or is that taboo as well?

[ABQCOWBOY]

jugding by your screen name I am assuming you're in Albuquerque. And being that you are in Albuquerque you've probably seen the broncos during "Tebows" winning streak since they are on tv every week. You have to admit a ton of stuff went the broncos way stuff that in reality is rather flukey. As much as dislike Young it's disrespectful to him as a QB to put Tebow in the same sentence as Steve. Take a step back and look at the Tebow phenomenon as objectively as possible because you've obviously bought into the hype.

How old are you? Yes, I saw a lot of Bronco football and I watched him at Florida a lot. I also saw Steve Young play at BYU his entire career, I watched him in Tampa and I watched him in the USFL.

If you have watched or listened to Steve Young at all, you will realize that is was Steve Young who compared Tebow to his own career. Please do me a favor and allow me to tell you what I have bought into and what I have not bought into. I have a wife, I don't need you to tell me what I'm saying. Thank you.

[LifetimeBoysFan]

Seriously? There's no way we can be remotely interested in this. Move along.

[fortdick]

Is Jennifer doing Mac's columns now?

[Dash28]

anything just to get read.

What utter nonsense.
Agreed.

What a stupid line of thinking, Tebow is no fit here.

[BrAinPaiNt]

Can I bash our DFW media about this? Or is that taboo as well?

I think it is more Taboo, or at least it is less normal, NOT to bash the DFW media.

[jimnabby]

Here's my favorite part:

Since the team routinely drops the ball on its second-round picks -- Kevin Burnett, Martellus Bennett, Anthony Fasano, Jacob Rogers to name a few -- if a Tebow-for-a-two is a bust, he will fit in with the rest.

Never mind that I'd much rather have any of those first 3 guys than Tebow, he conveniently ignores one Sean Lee, more recent than any of those others. Sure, let's throw away a 2nd-round pick because Jacob Rogers didn't work out 8 years ago.

[dogberry]

As a Texas fan living in Oklahoma, I hear a lot about OU.

Last year the Sooners couldn't finish. They pulled Jones, and brought in Blake Bell, a 245 lb quarterback, and it helped.

We needed one first down in one game (out of about four) last year to make the playoffs.

Tebow is a tool we can use when needed.

[DFWJC]

As a Texas fan living in Oklahoma, I hear a lot about OU.

Last year the Sooners couldn't finish. They pulled Jones, and brought in Blake Bell, a 245 lb quarterback, and it helped.

We needed one first down in one game (out of about four) last year to make the playoffs.

Tebow is a tool we can use when needed.
If there was no baggage or circus involved, then maybe a 7th rounder would be worth it. I suspect he could help in the redzone on occassion.
But we all know that is not even remotely the case. The circus would be unimaginable.

lol
Forget Romo, could you imagine what Orton woud think if Tebow was brought in as QB3?
:lmao2:

[dadymat]

As a Texas fan living in Oklahoma, I hear a lot about OU.

Last year the Sooners couldn't finish. They pulled Jones, and brought in Blake Bell, a 245 lb quarterback, and it helped.

We needed one first down in one game (out of about four) last year to make the playoffs.

Tebow is a tool we can use when needed.


and this has what to do with the Cowboys needing Tebow?

[ABQCOWBOY]

I honestly don't believe there would be much circus on the team. I agree that the press would try to stir the pot but they are going to do that with Orten as well. I think the team respects Romo enough and he is the leader of the team. I don't think you should ever be afraid to bring somebody in. Tebow needs to go to a team that has an established QB. There needs to be no doubt that Tebow is there to learn how to be a Pro QB and not the guy who should come in and start immediately or even in a years time. JMO

[wittenacious]

I wish Tim Tebow the best. I really do. Seems like a good kid with an outstandingly competitive nature. Just no way I'd want the media circus that would be a part of TT coming to Dallas, and I absolutely DO believe the media would have a field day w/him here. Conflict sells, and the sports media loves fanning the flames of conflict.

We're good to go at QB, IMO.

[Hostile]

I think it is more Taboo, or at least it is less normal, NOT to bash the DFW media.I don't agree. I never see those who don't like the media actually blaming them, but I continue to see posts about "blaming the evil media," and even the media trying to say we are blaming them. It's ridiculous to take a comment about how stupid they are to mean they are to blame. They're just stupid.

[BrAinPaiNt]

I don't agree. I never see those who don't like the media actually blaming them, but i continue to see posts about "blaming the evil media," and even the media trying to say we are blaming them. It's ridiculous to take a comment about how stupid they are to mean they are to blame. They're just stupid.

Must have misunderstood your meaning as I missed the blame the evil media part of your post. Just took it at face value
About bashing the media, something that happens on a regular basis around here...most of the time with good reason but not always.

[Dallas]

and this has what to do with the Cowboys needing Tebow?

I agree. I hope the user isn't saying that somehomw Tebow=Bell, therefore we need that type of production from inside the 10. Teams run the ball there..PERIOD. You don't get cute. Tebow is a mismatch in space and can run tough. The BellDOZER just lined up and in the heavy formation and ran it down throats. He wasn't jukin and jivin nobody. Everyone knew who was getting the ball and where it was going. For some reason it wasn't stopped.

[Fletch]

Seriously, is anyone REALLY surprised?

Mac and his "hunk" of a wife are just flat out bad in todays sports world. It is true about the "soap opera" writing style.

I guess you have to do that when you really dont know what your talking about.


People actually SUBSCRIBE to this nonsense too. :rolleyes:

What's funny is Mac Engel and his HULK wife probably read up in here considering this is the best site for news and what not and we have a ton of note-worthy posters according to coachscout.

With that being said, I'm getting a good laugh at Mac's little article. :lmao2:

Yeah... okay!

[WPBCowboysFan]

I honestly don't believe there would be much circus on the team.

How could you think/say this?

What we saw with Tebow last season was the most ridiculous thing I can remember seeing when it comes to football.

Put him in Dallas and even if he wasn't playing it would be crazy.

Tebow+Dallas=Circus.

Seriously, even if he was brought in to do something other than QB, the first bad game for Romo and the media - both local and national - would start the Tebow stuff.

It would be counter productive. Jerruh does enuff by himself to cause distractions. Add Tebow to the mix and it would be bad!

[Rynie]

Tebow has proven that he can win in this league. .

Uh no, his defense has won in this league. Tebow can't throw a spiral.

[silverbear]

Tim Tebow is available, which means the next time he "Tebows" it needs to be in a Dallas Cowboys uniform.

What we have here, folks, is hard scientific evidence that sleeping with the Little Ball of Hate makes you stupid...

[silverbear]

Can I bash our DFW media about this? Or is that taboo as well?

If you don't, I'll never forgive you...

[wittenacious]

What we have here, folks, is hard scientific evidence that sleeping with the Little Ball of Hate makes you stupid...
:laugh2: Spot on!

[silverbear]

:laugh2: Spot on!

I'm blessed with a scientifically-inclined mind...

[BAT]

Yhea, we should sign Tebow to play H-Back.

He'd probably be pretty good in that role.

I agree. He would be as much of a playmaker at the TE/H Back spot. Denver pundits are saying they are willing to give him up for a 3rd. If Cowboys are going to draft a TE in that range, then why not.

Or maybe Cowboys can really make a killing and trade Spears & Ogletree for Tebow, and keep the pick. Make it really interesting and trade Tebow & Von Miller to Cowboys for Spencer, Spears, Ogletree and a 2013 2nd.

Dreamcasting is easy. :cool:

[wittenacious]

I'm blessed with a scientifically-inclined mind...
Undeniably. I found your keenly analytical observation to be beyond contestation ... and loved it. :)

[JPostSam]

the mac engel column is moronic.

and as i write that, i feel i have to apologize to the moron community for offending them with the comparison.

[silverbear]

Undeniably. I found your keenly analytical observation to be beyond contestation ... and loved it. :)

I like to let my inner smart*** out to play when I can...

[dwmyers]

Forget Romo, could you imagine what Orton woud think if Tebow was brought in as QB3?
:lmao2:

:hammer:

That's why I think the Engels want Tebow in Dallas. Not that it betters the team, not that it gets the club any closer to being a playoff team (I bet Miami of 2011 could have beaten that injured Pittsburgh squad), but that it imports the drama and media circus of the Orton/Tebow trials of 2011.

Great for Dallas papparazzi and no one else.

[ABQCOWBOY]

How could you think/say this?

What we saw with Tebow last season was the most ridiculous thing I can remember seeing when it comes to football.

Put him in Dallas and even if he wasn't playing it would be crazy.

Tebow+Dallas=Circus.

Seriously, even if he was brought in to do something other than QB, the first bad game for Romo and the media - both local and national - would start the Tebow stuff.

It would be counter productive. Jerruh does enuff by himself to cause distractions. Add Tebow to the mix and it would be bad!

Pretty easily. I would say it just as I did before. We are not Denver. We have a QB in place. I guess I just believe in this team and it's support of Romo more then you do.

No big deal. When I suggested that we should look at signing Vick I saw the same kind of rhetoric. I'm not surprised by it at all.

[ABQCOWBOY]

Uh no, his defense has won in this league. Tebow can't throw a spiral.

Your opinion but the defense didn't win that overtime game in the playoffs. Tebow and his throw did.

[ABQCOWBOY]

I agree. He would be as much of a playmaker at the TE/H Back spot. Denver pundits are saying they are willing to give him up for a 3rd. If Cowboys are going to draft a TE in that range, then why not.

Or maybe Cowboys can really make a killing and trade Spears & Ogletree for Tebow, and keep the pick. Make it really interesting and trade Tebow & Von Miller to Cowboys for Spencer, Spears, Ogletree and a 2013 2nd.

Dreamcasting is easy. :cool:

According to reports I heard last night, interest in Tebow has been very lite. I don't know that they will even be able to get a 3rd for him. It's possible I suppose but it could be less then that.

[big dog cowboy]

I don't know that they will even be able to get a 3rd for him. It's possible I suppose but it could be less then that.

If they get an offer for a 3rd rounder they should yell "DONE!" and hang up the phone asap.

[DFWJC]

According to reports I heard last night, interest in Tebow has been very lite. I don't know that they will even be able to get a 3rd for him. It's possible I suppose but it could be less then that.
I think you're right.

And I'll say it again; Dallas should not take Tebow under any circumstance...not for free, not for any reason.

I really do hope he finds success somewhere though.

You and I just disagree on this one.

[Hostile]

If you don't, I'll never forgive you...
It is my uninformed opinion (based solely upon personal observation) that the DFW media does not have one single writer who ever played a down of football on any level beyond Pop Warner. Yet they continue to tell us what is wrong, and the funny thing to me is, people buy it and then preach it.

They have editors who do not edit, but want traffic hits so they write dirty laundry articles because they sell. They write like they are auditioning to be writers for TMZ or People magazine. In other words, pure paparazzi. Mac Engel knew mentioning the name Tebow would get traffic hits. That is the only reason he threw this out there. He himself is not an idiot even if the article is idiotic.

The current DFW media are so far removed from Frank Luksa and Blackie Sherrod (who may not have played either, but could at least write well) that if I were among their ranks it would embarrass me to be called a colleague. I say this and there are a couple of them that I genuinely like as people.

Listen to the Press Conferences. They ask the same stupid questions each and every week. What does that tell you? It should tell you that they don't care what is said, just how they can interpret it to make it sensational so it gets traffic hits.

[DFWJC]

Put it this way, ESPN (I know, their cred is low as well) just put out an article listing places where Tebow would most likely land.

There were 3 categories:
Medium Probability, Low Probability, and No Chance.

Dallas, along with 6 other teams, fell into the NO CHANCE category.

http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/55744/where-will-tim-tebow-land-2

[Zaxor]

It is my uninformed opinion (based solely upon personal observation) that the DFW media does not have one single writer who ever played a down of football on any level beyond Pop Warner. Yet they continue to tell us what is wrong, and the funny thing to me is, people buy it and then preach it.

They have editors who do not edit, but want traffic hits so they write dirty laundry articles because they sell. They write like they are auditioning to be writers for TMZ or People magazine. In other words, pure paparazzi. Mac Engel knew mentioning the name Tebow would get traffic hits. That is the only reason he threw this out there. He himself is not an idiot even if the article is idiotic.

The current DFW media are so far removed from Frank Luksa and Blackie Sherrod (who may not have played either, but could at least write well) that if I were among their ranks it would embarrass me to be called a colleague. I say this and there are a couple of them that I genuinely like as people.

Listen to the Press Conferences. They ask the same stupid questions each and every week. What does that tell you? It should tell you that they don't care what is said, just how they can interpret it to make it sensational so it gets traffic hits.


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[ABQCOWBOY]

I think you're right.

And I'll say it again; Dallas should not take Tebow under any circumstance...not for free, not for any reason.

I really do hope he finds success somewhere though.

You and I just disagree on this one.

Yeah, I just see him as at least as good an investment as McGee was coming out. Better really but the line of thinking for me is that if you would invest in a guy like McGee (which I had no problem with) then why not a guy like Tebow if the price was right. It doesn't really matter. Tebow would be a long shot IMO but that's pretty much what almost every investment in developmental players are.

[Hostile]

exactly I do not visit the link site and I will not in anyway make it profitable to be stupidI love that.

[silverbear]

exactly I do not visit the link site and I will not in anyway make it profitable to be stupid

There goes my last, best chance for getting rich...