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03-21-2012, 07:09 PM
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Baylor center Phillip Blake will workout for Cowboys on Monday http://q.gs/12vhj #COWBOYS #NFL
CATCH17
03-21-2012, 07:16 PM
Cool deal.
GloryDaysRBack
03-21-2012, 08:20 PM
Pass..
Get me Konz
cowboyjoe
03-21-2012, 08:40 PM
Pass..
Get me Konz
so you want a center, possibly in 1st round, that has a career threatening bloodclot disorder, and only did 18 reps of bench press?
A big nasty NT is going to do what to him?
supercowboy8
03-21-2012, 08:45 PM
I like this he is my #2 center who can be had in the 3rd or 4th. I lik Konz the best but no way we can get Konz.
supercowboy8
03-21-2012, 08:47 PM
so you want a center, possibly in 1st round, that has a career threatening bloodclot disorder, and only did 18 reps of bench press?
A big nasty NT is going to do what to him?
his blood disorder hasn't been an issue in over 2 years and he only did 18 on the bench because he pulled a muscle in his shoulder.
I don't want Konz at 14 but in a trade back or in the 2nd yes please.
supercowboy8
03-21-2012, 08:52 PM
If I can get a OG, DE, and CB in the 1st three rounds I would love Blake in the 4th or a trade up into the 3rd
cowboyjoe
03-21-2012, 08:59 PM
Baylor center Phillip Blake will workout for Cowboys on Monday
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WACO -- Baylor center Phillip Blake said Wednesday that he will have an individual, pre-draft workout Monday at Valley Ranch in front of new Cowboys offensive line coach Bill Callahan.
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Blake is from Toronto but transferred to Baylor from Tyler Junior College. At Baylor's pro day on Wednesday, Blake worked out in front of scouts from 25 NFL teams. He has a 79-inch wingspan and is 6-3, 317 pounds. So Blake would definitely help the Cowboys add some more beef up the middle if they were to draft him.
cowboyjoe
03-21-2012, 09:00 PM
2nd round, i would be happy, even if we had to trade up
but we have to hit on that 1st rounder for sure
Deep_Freeze
03-21-2012, 09:01 PM
so you want a center, possibly in 1st round, that has a career threatening bloodclot disorder, and only did 18 reps of bench press?
A big nasty NT is going to do what to him?
Well do we want to draft a center who will be 30 before we even think about signing him to his next contract??
This ain't free agency, this is the draft, and you have to admit it is hard to think about getting someone his age in the draft.
Aikbach
03-21-2012, 09:06 PM
Well do we want to draft a center who will be 30 before we even think about signing him to his next contract??
This ain't free agency, this is the draft, and you have to admit it is hard to think about getting someone his age in the draft.Are you kidding me? O-linemen can play at a high level till 35, 30 is when they're hitting their stride, they age slower than the skill set positions because they dish out more punishment than they take and really don't have to run.
Dallas won their last super bowl with three pro bowlers aged 38, 36 and 35.
supercowboy8
03-21-2012, 09:08 PM
Well do we want to draft a center who will be 30 before we even think about signing him to his next contract??
This ain't free agency, this is the draft, and you have to admit it is hard to think about getting someone his age in the draft.
In the 3rd or 4th, yes
Eagles drafted a 27 year old OG from Baylor last year in the 1st
GloryDaysRBack
03-21-2012, 09:08 PM
you guys are pipe dreamers..konz wont make it out of the first 33 picks..
move down from 14 a few spots and take him..or move back into the first round and take him..
taking konz at 14 isnt even out of the question if we cant find a trade partner to move down..takes 2 to tango
cowboyjoe
03-21-2012, 09:11 PM
Well do we want to draft a center who will be 30 before we even think about signing him to his next contract??
This ain't free agency, this is the draft, and you have to admit it is hard to think about getting someone his age in the draft.
Totally agree with you about Blake being to old at 26 for us to draft him. I would rather cowboys if going to draft 1, try Quinton Saulsberry | C | Mississippi State
Part of the problem with cowboys not having players is their drafts 2009, and part of 2008. You have to hit on those top 2 picks in each round.
Otherwise your behind the 8 ball. If that means taking a player that isnt flashy, but can play 10- 14 years, then do that, but older players like we drafted newman who was 26, came back and bit us because when we really needed him he was too old to play cb
If you dont hit on those top 2 picks, your setting yourself back, so thats why i questioned drafting of Konz.
WE have to hit, period!
WE could have gotten a 2nd or 1st for Bennett when you could see he didnt want to work, put in the effort and be serious about profootball and wanting to be one of the best TE's in NFL
I wouldnt mind cowboys taking ben jones center or webster from ohio st, but hit on those top 2 picks.
Only down side to Blake is that he'll be 27 this year. He would need to start and play well immediately.
cowboyjoe
03-21-2012, 09:14 PM
Are you kidding me? O-linemen can play at a high level till 35, 30 is when they're hitting their stride, they age slower than the skill set positions because they dish out more punishment than they take and really don't have to run.
Dallas won their last super bowl with three pro bowlers aged 38, 36 and 35.
Yeah, but they were basically done at those ages after that superbowl.
Just like Bigg Davis, Gurode, Kosier who keeps getting injured, Columbo got past their prime early 30s.
About 32, and OL generally start their decline unless they were a superior OL to begin with, and are a workout warrior, just my views, and hey, what do i know
Deep_Freeze
03-21-2012, 09:23 PM
All I was saying is look at Kosier, we just had to cut him. Look at other older OL that we have had to cut.....the age just isn't too far off from Blake.
I look at Blake as a FA more than a draft pick, and of course that is the reason he is considered a 4th rounder or so, instead of where his talent would put him.
Of course I didn't wanna draft TNew cause of his age either, if he was 4 years younger when we drafted him he would still be on the team.
In this game, age does matter. In real life, it doesn't as much, but it is a huge consideration when we even think about a guy like Blake, the time window for his top performance is just so much shorter.
cowboyjoe
03-21-2012, 09:36 PM
All I was saying is look at Kosier, we just had to cut him. Look at other older OL that we have had to cut.....the age just isn't too far off from Blake.
I look at Blake as a FA more than a draft pick, and of course that is the reason he is considered a 4th rounder or so, instead of where his talent would put him.
Of course I didn't wanna draft TNew cause of his age either, if he was 4 years younger when we drafted him he would still be on the team.
In this game, age does matter. In real life, it doesn't as much, but it is a huge consideration when we even think about a guy like Blake, the time window for his top performance is just so much shorter.
agree about the age issue with you, now if cowboys team was built for 5-6 years, then you could take a chance on a older player in the draft, but those top 2 picks have got to be able to play for 10 -12 years for you with prductivity, otherwise you set yourself back, if you miss on those top 2 picks.
You have to hit, unless your team is built, and we all know we have holes to plug
C, OG (true we signed 2 OGs but we dont know and u still need another OG), TE now bennett is gone, DE very good pass rusher on the line, OLB, CB and a S
Thats 7 positions, so giving credence to our scouts, you might hit on 4 in the draft, most good teams do that, 5 if your lucky, that still leaves 2, and I didnt count us needing a Punt returner that is elite, kickoff returner and a punter possibly
With McGee maybe another QB so in reality thats 10-11 positions, and i didnt even mention backups or a slot wr or a big run stuffin NT
so basically were looking at another draft in 2013 before we can possibly fill all of our holes, so you have to hit those top 2 picks in the draft. In reality, you need to hit on top 3 picks, the 1st, 2nd and 3rd, and get lucky with 1-2 from 4th round to the 7th.
You just have to hit those top 2 picks for sure, you cant gamble. And if your team isnt built, then you cant draft a 26 year old
Deep_Freeze
03-21-2012, 09:42 PM
agree about the age issue with you, now if cowboys team was built for 5-6 years, then you could take a chance on a older player in the draft, but those top 2 picks have got to be able to play for 10 -12 years for you with prductivity, otherwise you set yourself back, if you miss on those top 2 picks.
You have to hit, unless your team is built, and we all know we have holes to plug
C, OG (true we signed 2 OGs but we dont know and u still need another OG), TE now bennett is gone, DE very good pass rusher on the line, OLB, CB and a S
Thats 7 positions, so giving credence to our scouts, you might hit on 4 in the draft, most good teams do that, 5 if your lucky, that still leaves 2, and I didnt count us needing a Punt returner that is elite, kickoff returner and a punter possibly
With McGee maybe another QB so in reality thats 10-11 positions, and i didnt even mention backups or a slot wr or a big run stuffin NT
so basically were looking at another draft in 2013 before we can possibly fill all of our holes, so you have to hit those top 2 picks in the draft. In reality, you need to hit on top 3 picks, the 1st, 2nd and 3rd, and get lucky with 1-2 from 4th round to the 7th.
You just have to hit those top 2 picks for sure, you cant gamble. And if your team isnt built, then you cant draft a 26 year old
Yeah, it was pointed out the old guy the Eagles drafted, and I for one, was happy they drafted him cause I would not have done it myself for the long term of a franchise. By the time they adjust to the NFL, its usually too late for them to make a long term imprint on any franchise unless your talking about a Roger Staubach.
Blake isn't Roger, so I wouldn't do it at all, and you are right that we aren't in a position to do these types of moves as a franchise right now.
SDogo
03-21-2012, 09:46 PM
taking konz at 14 isnt even out of the question if we cant find a trade partner to move down..takes 2 to tango
Is it it better to be a "pipe dreamer" or just "straight crazy"?
supercowboy8
03-21-2012, 09:52 PM
also don't be surprised to see Dallas draft Zeitler to become a center. There are other OGs that have perfect center size.
GloryDaysRBack
03-21-2012, 09:53 PM
Is it it better to be a "pipe dreamer" or just "straight crazy"?
Nothing crazy about anything I said
SDogo
03-21-2012, 09:54 PM
Nothing crazy about anything I said
nah not at all. Konz at 14, I'm sure you would have no problem finding anyone that will agree with you that he's a good value or even a good pick there.
GloryDaysRBack
03-21-2012, 09:56 PM
nah not at all. Konz at 14, I'm sure you would have no problem finding anyone that will agree with you that he's a good value or even a good pick there.
Nope...wes bunting and raf vela have no issues w it..
SDogo
03-21-2012, 10:08 PM
Nope...wes bunting and raf vela have no issues w it..
The same Wes Bunting who has him going 24th in his mock and recently as in yesterday on ESPN radio said there is no justification for taking a interior offensive lineman in the top 15 picks?
Vela...........come on. Find a blogger on here who has a head on his shoulders and he can do the same job.
At least Bunting is a AP member and involved in the scouting community.
Konz in no way or form presents any value at 14 or before 20. As much as I like DeCastro I'm not sold he presents value at 14.
GloryDaysRBack
03-21-2012, 10:18 PM
The same Wes Bunting who has him going 24th in his mock and recently as in yesterday on ESPN radio said there is no justification for taking a interior offensive lineman in the top 15 picks?
Vela...........come on. Find a blogger on here who has a head on his shoulders and he can do the same job.
At least Bunting is a AP member and involved in the scouting community.
Konz in no way or form presents any value at 14 or before 20. As much as I like DeCastro I'm not sold he presents value at 14.
bunting has had dallas taking konz in multiple mock drafts..hes his 15th ranked player in this entire class..
GloryDaysRBack
03-21-2012, 10:21 PM
i can guarantee you one thing..Konz is slipping to the 4th round like you have led many posters on this site to believe..youll be lucky if he falls to the second round..he sure isnt sniffing anywhere near 45
SDogo
03-21-2012, 10:22 PM
bunting has had dallas taking konz in multiple mock drafts..hes his 15th ranked player in this entire class..
Multiple as in 1 because he has only released 5 and he only had Konz going to Dallas in his second mock that was released in January.
SDogo
03-21-2012, 10:26 PM
i can guarantee you one thing..Konz is slipping to the 4th round like you have led many posters on this site to believe..youll be lucky if he falls to the second round..he sure isnt sniffing anywhere near 45
If there is a poster here that has been lead to believe by my words alone that Konz will slip to the 4th please make yourself known.....................I'll be waiting a while.
Anyways, I'm not going to guarantee he will go anywhere after the top 15-20 picks play out but I sure in the hell will guarantee he wont go in the top 15 picks and rightfully so.
GloryDaysRBack
03-21-2012, 10:26 PM
Multiple as in 1 because he has only released 5 and he only had Konz going to Dallas in his second mock that was released in January.
who do you think convinced Vela that Konz was a viable option at 14?
bunting
GloryDaysRBack
03-21-2012, 10:28 PM
If there is a poster here that has been lead to believe by my words alone that Konz will slip to the 4th please make yourself known.....................I'll be waiting a while.
Anyways, I'm not going to guarantee he will go anywhere after the top 15-20 picks play out but I sure in the hell will guarantee he wont go in the top 15 picks and rightfully so.
he is not likely to go in the top 15
if you read my statement..i said it would only occur if we cannot find a trade partner and were forced to make a selection at 14..assuming in this scenario that all of the players we were hoping to land at 14 were now gone..
GloryDaysRBack
03-21-2012, 10:29 PM
If there is a poster here that has been lead to believe by my words alone that Konz will slip to the 4th please make yourself known.....................I'll be waiting a while.
Anyways, I'm not going to guarantee he will go anywhere after the top 15-20 picks play out but I sure in the hell will guarantee he wont go in the top 15 picks and rightfully so.
you dont have to wait any longer..there are guys like cowboyjoe and burma who think Konz is going to die on the field
SDogo
03-21-2012, 10:31 PM
who do you think convinced Vela that Konz was a viable option at 14?
bunting
I thought I made it clear Vela's contributions to the draft while entertaining are meaningless to me for the simple fact you just stated, they are not his so we can leave him out of it. We are basically talking about Buntings comments through a 3rd party.
Yet if that's the way we play, then Vela should soon be echoing Buntings comments from yesterday. Will they hold more water when it's reversed?
I understand your grudge with DeCastro and the attention he is getting, you have made that clear but there is no reason to lose your head and sensibility when you have been around long enough to know, there is ever once in a blue moon prospect at OC that offers good value at 14. The last one and best one in generations went to Pittsburgh at 18 and he was twice the prospect Konz is.
SDogo
03-21-2012, 10:32 PM
assuming in this scenario that all of the players we were hoping to land at 14 were now gone..
There is not enough picks between 1 and 13 to make that possible.
GloryDaysRBack
03-21-2012, 10:34 PM
I thought I made it clear Vela's contributions to the draft while entertaining are meaningless to me for the simple fact you just stated, they are not his so we can leave him out of it. We are basically talking about Buntings comments through a 3rd party.
Yet if that's the way we play, then Vela should soon be echoing Buntings comments from yesterday. Will they hold more water when it's reversed?
I understand your grudge with DeCastro and the attention he is getting, you have made that clear but there is no reason to lose your head and sensibility when you have been around long enough to know, there is ever once in a blue moon prospect at OC that offers good value at 14. The last one and best one in generations went to Pittsburgh at 18 and he was twice the prospect Konz is.
I have no qualms w decastro at 14..i think there could be better options but i dont have a problem w decastro at 14
SDogo
03-21-2012, 10:34 PM
you dont have to wait any longer..there are guys like cowboyjoe and burma who think Konz is going to die on the field
You have medical information to prove otherwise? It may not happen, it may. He could die in his sleep at 85. Bottom line is he has a medical condition that requires him to medicate. Medications that can cause complications. That's the facts, no way to skirt it. It has to be looked at and that's what I brought to the attention of the posters here. Just as I would if Joe Prospect had a history of warts on his feet or Bill The Man got arrested for selling stolen jaw breakers. We talk about red flags every day, not sure why this is different.
GloryDaysRBack
03-21-2012, 10:35 PM
I thought I made it clear Vela's contributions to the draft while entertaining are meaningless to me for the simple fact you just stated, they are not his so we can leave him out of it. We are basically talking about Buntings comments through a 3rd party.
Yet if that's the way we play, then Vela should soon be echoing Buntings comments from yesterday. Will they hold more water when it's reversed?
I understand your grudge with DeCastro and the attention he is getting, you have made that clear but there is no reason to lose your head and sensibility when you have been around long enough to know, there is ever once in a blue moon prospect at OC that offers good value at 14. The last one and best one in generations went to Pittsburgh at 18 and he was twice the prospect Konz is.
you told me to find you people that agreed w me on konz at 14 and i found you 2...give me the stipulations before the game starts...not after
SDogo
03-21-2012, 10:35 PM
I have no qualms w decastro at 14..i think there could be better options but i dont have a problem w decastro at 14
There are certainly better options, I'm not going to argue that.
SDogo
03-21-2012, 10:36 PM
you told me to find you people that agreed w me on konz at 14 and i found you 2...give me the stipulations before the game starts...not after
You found me 1 that is questionable at best unless we go back to January and a parrot.
GloryDaysRBack
03-21-2012, 10:36 PM
You have medical information to prove otherwise? It may not happen, it may. He could die in his sleep at 85. Bottom line is he has a medical condition that requires him to medicate. Medications that can cause complications. That's the facts, no way to skirt it. It has to be looked at and that's what I brought to the attention of the posters here. Just as I would if Joe Prospect had a history of warts on his feet or Bill The Man got arrested for selling stolen jaw breakers. We talk about red flags every day, not sure why this is different.
there is no chance in hell this guy has a severe medical issue and will get drafted in the top 32 picks of the draft..
there isnt one draft source on the entire planet that knocks konz's stock bc of this blood disorder he has..its nonsense
GloryDaysRBack
03-21-2012, 10:38 PM
You found me 1 that is questionable at best unless we go back to January and a parrot.
konz is his 15th best player in the draft..there is no justifying konz being a horrible pick at 14 if hes ranked as his 15th best player
SDogo
03-21-2012, 10:39 PM
there is no chance in hell this guy has a severe medical issue and will get drafted in the top 32 picks of the draft..
Good god, why do you continue to ignore it when the man himself in questions speaks about it. There are a dozen articles on it that you choose to ignore for some reason. I don't understand turning a blind eye to a proven situation.
there isnt one draft source on the entire planet that knocks konz's stock bc of this blood disorder he has..its nonsense
So does he have the blood disorder or not?
SDogo
03-21-2012, 10:41 PM
konz is his 15th best player in the draft..there is no justifying konz being a horrible pick at 14 if hes ranked as his 15th best player
I'm kind of losing respect for your draft analysis at the moment. Your reaching because your caught up in the debate but reading posts before this I know you realize that. Also, I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt and not wasting our time with a dozen other internet sites who have him ranked much lower. I know you dont even believe Bunting is the end all in this.
GloryDaysRBack
03-21-2012, 10:45 PM
I'm kind of losing respect for your draft analysis at the moment. Your reaching because your caught up in the debate but reading posts before this I know you realize that. Also, I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt and not wasting our time with a dozen other internet sites who have him ranked much lower. I know you dont even believe Bunting is the end all in this.
reaching with what?? i brought this point up twice..that hes ranked 15th on buntings list and you ignored it the 1st time and now you have no answer for it so you debunk it...
SDogo
03-21-2012, 10:48 PM
reaching with what?? i brought this point up twice..that hes ranked 15th on buntings list and you ignored it the 1st time and now you have no answer for it so you debunk it...
I did not realize Bunting was the only voice.......my bad.
Gosh, his averages on his mock and rankings the last two years suggest he's not only the only voice but he's not even a whisper.
Like I said, benefit of the doubt. He will be the voice in this.
Deep_Freeze
03-21-2012, 11:09 PM
If we pick Konz at #14, you better call best buy and order me a new TV.
Just saying.
SDogo
03-21-2012, 11:14 PM
If we pick Konz at #14, you better call best buy and order me a new TV.
Just saying.
Put one on hold for me either way. Konz or not something will end up ticking me off.
Deep_Freeze
03-21-2012, 11:20 PM
Put one on hold for me either way. Konz or not something will end up ticking me off.
Jerry and company can't win in this draft, they can't make everyone happy and they will probably tick me off at one point or another too.
Aikbach
03-21-2012, 11:31 PM
Yeah, but they were basically done at those ages after that superbowl.
Just like Bigg Davis, Gurode, Kosier who keeps getting injured, Columbo got past their prime early 30s.
About 32, and OL generally start their decline unless they were a superior OL to begin with, and are a workout warrior, just my views, and hey, what do i knowStill getting 5 to 7 years of good play from a lineman drafted in the second or third round is hard to complain about.
Mark Stepnoski played 6 years before Dallas lost him to free agency, got him back in 1999 after being without him for four pro bowl seasons with the Oilers and he finished out with two solid more seasons.
You technically only got 7 full seasons out of him, but he was a great third round pick.
SDogo
03-21-2012, 11:32 PM
Still getting 5 to 7 years of good play from a lineman drafted in the second or third round is hard to complain about.
Mark Stepnoski played 6 years before Dallas lost him to free agency, got him back in 1999 after being without him for four pro bowl seasons with the Oilers and he finished out with two solid more seasons.
You technically only got 7 full seasons out of him, but he was a great third round pick.
If Blake is anything like Steps I would gladly take 6 years of it over 10 years of average play.
Dash28
03-22-2012, 02:26 AM
you guys are pipe dreamers..konz wont make it out of the first 33 picks..
move down from 14 a few spots and take him..or move back into the first round and take him..
taking konz at 14 isnt even out of the question if we cant find a trade partner to move down..takes 2 to tango
Konz at 14 would be a horrible selection.
Only in a trade down or 2nd round.
burmafrd
03-22-2012, 07:19 AM
after his workout even if a team buys off on his medical history Konz is not going in the first.
You can only sign a player for 5 years max, right?
So what if he is 27- Blake would be a very good pick in the 3rd
CATCH17
03-22-2012, 07:49 AM
Wooo things got a little heated in here.
I would be pee'd off if Dallas takes Konz in the 1st round at any point. He is quality but he isn't Nick Mangold quality or anything.
If you want Konz as your 1st pick and you're willing to trade down enough times to stock pile all kinds of picks then ok.
Flat out at 14? No way.
Doomsday101
03-22-2012, 07:52 AM
I like this he is my #2 center who can be had in the 3rd or 4th. I lik Konz the best but no way we can get Konz.
I agree 3 or 4th rd for Blake would be a good move. I will say 4th may be pushing it
supercowboy8
03-22-2012, 08:03 AM
I agree 3 or 4th rd for Blake would be a good move. I will say 4th may be pushing it
I would say 4th just due to his age and not skill. If he was the same age of all the others in the draft he would be a 2nd round pick.
I also really like Ben Jones in the 3rd.
Doomsday101
03-22-2012, 08:08 AM
I would say 4th just due to his age and not skill. If he was the same age of all the others in the draft he would be a 2nd round pick.
I also really like Ben Jones in the 3rd.
I just think the likelyhood of making it to the Cowboys pick in the 4th rd might be a bit slim. As for Ben Jones I saw him at Georgia he would make a fine mid rd pick as well.
supercowboy8
03-22-2012, 08:19 AM
I just think the likelyhood of making it to the Cowboys pick in the 4th rd might be a bit slim. As for Ben Jones I saw him at Georgia he would make a fine mid rd pick as well.
Another reason I like Jones over Blake is his age. I don't think either are day one starters but Jones is younger which gives you more time to develop.
DFWJC
03-22-2012, 09:38 AM
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That would work for me as long as we don't reach for him.
ABQCOWBOY
03-22-2012, 09:46 AM
I don't understand anybody who would say PASS, give me such and such. The reality is that Such and Such could be gone and we would be forced to either do nothing or select another player. You should be pissed off if the club were not exploring all viable options at any given position of need.
Get a grip.
Doomsday101
03-22-2012, 09:48 AM
I don't understand anybody who would say PASS, give me such and such. The reality is that Such and Such could be gone and we would be forced to either do nothing or select another player. You should be pissed off if the club were not exploring all viable options at any given position of need.
Get a grip.
Especially if we are talking 3rd or 4th rd prospect.
DFWJC
03-22-2012, 09:54 AM
I don't understand anybody who would say PASS, give me such and such. The reality is that Such and Such could be gone and we would be forced to either do nothing or select another player. You should be pissed off if the club were not exploring all viable options at any given position of need.
Get a grip.
Someday, maybe some people here will understand that you can't have the top rated player at every position...all in one draft.:cool:
Another pet peeve is people saying to take this or that positon in a certain round without taking into account value....but also not being willing to move up or down to maximize and match need/value.
Oh well..maybe someday.
fortdick
03-22-2012, 12:30 PM
Still getting 5 to 7 years of good play from a lineman drafted in the second or third round is hard to complain about.
Mark Stepnoski played 6 years before Dallas lost him to free agency, got him back in 1999 after being without him for four pro bowl seasons with the Oilers and he finished out with two solid more seasons.
You technically only got 7 full seasons out of him, but he was a great third round pick.
Yeah, but the last two years he was playing high because of the pain. Thank goodness for medical marijuana or his career would have been over.
Aikbach
03-22-2012, 02:24 PM
Yeah, but the last two years he was playing high because of the pain. Thank goodness for medical marijuana or his career would have been over.Point is he was still worth the five years he played before lost to free agency (on roster for 6 but was injured almost entire 1993 season), five to six years of a good play from any starter is worth a third round pick.
fortdick
03-22-2012, 02:29 PM
Point is he was still worth the five years he played before lost to free agency (on roster for 6 but was injured almost entire 1993 season), five to six years of a good play from any starter is worth a third round pick.
So, you are saying that Blake will start for 5-6 years? If we draft him, and he starts in two years, he would have to play to 35 to reach that. He certainly won't start this season.
ABQCOWBOY
03-22-2012, 02:58 PM
So, you are saying that Blake will start for 5-6 years? If we draft him, and he starts in two years, he would have to play to 35 to reach that. He certainly won't start this season.
OLs can play well into their 30s many times. It would not be unheard of.
TheSport78
03-22-2012, 03:10 PM
The mid 3rd-early 4th is probably where Blake will go.
I want a trade down in the 1st: Grab Mercilus and Zeitler
In the 2nd round I want Billy Wynn
3rd round give me Philip Blake or the top available CB
Aikbach
03-22-2012, 06:19 PM
OLs can play well into their 30s many times. It would not be unheard of. i made that point earlier, but no one seemed to have listened.
casmith07
03-22-2012, 06:45 PM
Konz then Blake, but this is good news.
Cowboy Junkie
03-22-2012, 07:34 PM
I dont want Blake at all. 22 bench enough said . I want my center to anchor the line. so tired of these guys getting pushed back into Romo
xwalker
03-22-2012, 09:03 PM
I dont want Blake at all. 22 bench enough said . I want my center to anchor the line. so tired of these guys getting pushed back into Romo
Konz only had 18 reps.
xwalker
03-22-2012, 09:13 PM
I don't see age as that big of a deal for a 4th round pick.
The problem with T. Newman was not that he was a 26 year old rookie. The problem was the Cowboys signed him to a 50 million dollar extension when he was a 30 year old CB.
When Blake hits FA at age 32, just use the money on a 26 to 28 year old FA.
In other words, sign 26 year old KC FA Brandon Carr to 50 million dollar contract in 2012 instead of signing Cowboys own 30 year old player T. Newman to a 50 million dollar contract in 2008.
cowboy_ron
03-22-2012, 09:16 PM
In the 3rd or 4th, yes
Eagles drafted a 27 year old OG from Baylor last year in the 1st
That's the Reid way...trying to outsmart the rest...he really is bad at drafting overall
Romo 2 Austin
03-22-2012, 09:19 PM
He is quite old otherwise I would love the pick.
GloryDaysRBack
03-22-2012, 09:44 PM
He is quite old otherwise I would love the pick.
whats your top 5 for our 1st rd pick?
Romo 2 Austin
03-22-2012, 09:54 PM
whats your top 5 for our 1st rd pick?
I want DeCastro. If not DeCastro I would be pretty tempted to trade down if there is a good offer on the table. Would love to add another 2nd round pick and drop down and take Mark Barron in the mid 20s.
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