View Full Version : How about Trent Richardson with first pick?
Joe Realist
03-25-2012, 12:09 PM
Trade Felix for what you can get (I don't see him being resigned at moment). I like Murray, but his history of injuries concerns me.
Thoughts?
GloryDaysRBack
03-25-2012, 12:11 PM
i thought about this idea the other day..it took me all of 2 seconds to determine that this team has so many holes that we cant justify taking Richarson
Joe Realist
03-25-2012, 12:16 PM
i thought about this idea the other day..it took me all of 2 seconds to determine that this team has so many holes that we cant justify taking Richarson
He might just be BPA at the time and the best RB in the draft.
Romo 2 Austin
03-25-2012, 12:17 PM
Don't think he will be there and with what Murray showed last year no need.
Felix wouldn't fetch much in a trade, maybe a 4th rounder if that. Rather hold on to him. Murray has injury concerns yes but not they are not enough to justify spending the 14th pick in the draft on a RB.
Dmoore Esq
03-25-2012, 12:18 PM
He's gone before we pick and we're not moving up to get him.
reddyuta
03-25-2012, 12:20 PM
I think we pick him if he is there at 14.
xwalker
03-25-2012, 12:33 PM
He would be BPA at #14. I think some team would trade up for him.
GloryDaysRBack
03-25-2012, 12:42 PM
He would be BPA at #14. I think some team would trade up for him.
trade down to 22..browns would definitely move up for him
get an extra 3rd rd pick
at this point in time..trading down is by far my favorite option
Eskimo
03-25-2012, 02:04 PM
Trade Felix for what you can get (I don't see him being resigned at moment). I like Murray, but his history of injuries concerns me.
Thoughts?
I would take Richardson but only if we had a 1st round offer on the table for Murray.
casmith07
03-25-2012, 03:28 PM
No thanks. Good trade bait though.
SDogo
03-25-2012, 03:33 PM
Contingent on several factors but as the way all things set right now, no.
Risen Star
03-25-2012, 03:34 PM
I'm for it. It would be a grand larceny steal at 14.
GloryDaysRBack
03-25-2012, 03:35 PM
I'm for it. It would be a grand larceny steal at 14.
lmfao..it would be dumber than dumb
you think CB is an overrated position and value RBs..unbelievable
Fredd
03-25-2012, 04:01 PM
My hope is that both Richardson AND Tannehill are still there at #14 (possible)...then perhaps we can see a little bidding war going on to get that pick from us...I have thought about the Browns and there are others as well, but having both of those players available would be a fantastic thing for the Cowboys...a great problem to have...
Eskimo
03-25-2012, 04:08 PM
lmfao..it would be dumber than dumb
you think CB is an overrated position and value RBs..unbelievable
I agree that most RBs aren't worth a first rounder.
However, special RBs are worth it. Would you argue that Adrian Peterson, Emmitt Smith, Terrell Davis, Ladainian Tomlinson and Bryan Westbrook aren't worth first round picks (knowing what we know about their pro careers).
I think Trent Richardson is worth it if he drops that far and would be a steal. However we are way too loaded at RB and would need a deal for Murray to make this deal make sense for our roster. I'd be okay with a high second round pick. If we can't get the deal done I wouldn't make the move as I don't want a roster with both Murray and Richardson. That is too much investment in a non-premium position.
GloryDaysRBack
03-25-2012, 04:23 PM
I agree that most RBs aren't worth a first rounder.
However, special RBs are worth it. Would you argue that Adrian Peterson, Emmitt Smith, Terrell Davis, Ladainian Tomlinson and Bryan Westbrook aren't worth first round picks (knowing what we know about their pro careers).
I think Trent Richardson is worth it if he drops that far and would be a steal. However we are way too loaded at RB and would need a deal for Murray to make this deal make sense for our roster. I'd be okay with a high second round pick. If we can't get the deal done I wouldn't make the move as I don't want a roster with both Murray and Richardson. That is too much investment in a non-premium position.
this team has way too damn many holes to take a RB and hope and pray that he turns out to be a once in a decade type RB..we already have a damn good RB on this team..no way in hell do i do it
TheCoolFan
03-25-2012, 04:26 PM
Man we're STILL on this? Helllllllllll no!
Look at the past Super Bowl winning teams. How many of those teams had high draft pick/franchise RBs?
Avery
03-25-2012, 05:14 PM
I would actually take him at #14, but 1. He won't be and 2. I bet we could get an intriguing trade package at that spot.
Eskimo
03-25-2012, 05:19 PM
I would actually take him at #14, but 1. He won't be and 2. I bet we could get an intriguing trade package at that spot.
Then why didn't the team ahead of us take that package. :confused:
Just kidding.
It could happen that way but I would prefer the elite player (Richardson) and then swing Murray's rookie season into a first round pick from a RB-hungry team.
AsthmaField
03-25-2012, 06:42 PM
I'd take Richardson with the first pick and then trade Felix Jones to the highest bidder.
If I could secure 41gy as Jones' agent to promote him to other teams, we could probably get a top 10 pick for Felix... maybe even multiple first round picks. :cool:
Doomsday101
03-25-2012, 06:45 PM
If Richardson made it to 14 which I high doubt I think many teams would be willing to make a big trade to move up to our spot and get him. I have a lot of respect for Richardson but not in the market for a RB
Risen Star
03-25-2012, 06:53 PM
I agree that most RBs aren't worth a first rounder.
However, special RBs are worth it. Would you argue that Adrian Peterson, Emmitt Smith, Terrell Davis, Ladainian Tomlinson and Bryan Westbrook aren't worth first round picks (knowing what we know about their pro careers).
I think Trent Richardson is worth it if he drops that far and would be a steal.
Yep.
And the draft isn't an extension of free agency. You take the talent. Richardson would be by far the top player on the board should he make it to 14.
tyke1doe
03-25-2012, 07:46 PM
Yep.
And the draft isn't an extension of free agency. You take the talent. Richardson would be by far the top player on the board should he make it to 14.
Ditto.
loblolly7
03-25-2012, 11:38 PM
Absolutely.... I think this re-sets the offense back to the early 1990s, when we had a dominating running game and by the way, when we last won a super bowl... No offense against Demarco, but Trent is a much better player..
CowboyFan74
03-25-2012, 11:53 PM
Have never seen him play. Would you compare him to McFadden, Adrian Peterson, or other ________ ?
couchscout
03-26-2012, 12:22 AM
Adrian Peterson, Ray Rice, Chris Johnson, Maurice Jones-Drew
Thats the entire list of special running backs in the NFL right now.
Zero Super Bowl wins, zero Super Bowl appearances.
In todays NFL, you don't need a special running back. All you need is a stable of young guys with fresh legs that can keep churning out a hard yard or two late into the postseason. Having a special back doesn't get you anything.
I try hard to trade down to a team whose silly enough to jump up for a RB.
I say all this as a person who absolutely loves Trent Richardson, he's an unbelievable RB. I would just much much rather have passers, pass protectors, and pass rushers. Thats how you win in the NFL today.
danielofthesaints
03-26-2012, 12:40 AM
Adrian Peterson, Ray Rice, Chris Johnson, Maurice Jones-Drew
Thats the entire list of special running backs in the NFL right now.
Zero Super Bowl wins, zero Super Bowl appearances.
In todays NFL, you don't need a special running back. All you need is a stable of young guys with fresh legs that can keep churning out a hard yard or two late into the postseason. Having a special back doesn't get you anything.
I try hard to trade down to a team whose silly enough to jump up for a RB.
I say all this as a person who absolutely loves Trent Richardson, he's an unbelievable RB. I would just much much rather have passers, pass protectors, and pass rushers. Thats how you win in the NFL today.
:hammer:
Gaede
03-26-2012, 08:15 AM
Yep.
And the draft isn't an extension of free agency. You take the talent. Richardson would be by far the top player on the board should he make it to 14.
:hammer:
tyke1doe
03-26-2012, 10:31 AM
Have never seen him play. Would you compare him to McFadden, Adrian Peterson, or other Emmitt Smith?
He has the legs and power of an Emmitt Smith. He's not as smooth as Emmitt and runs slightly higher than Emmitt did, but he has better speed than Emmitt.
I like DeMarco Murray's potential, but he doesn't have the lower-body strength like Trent.
If we get Trent, teams will eventually have to stack the box, which will open up Miles, Dez and Witten even more in the passing game. And I think Trent's addition will make Romo even more dangerous and will allow him to minimize his propensity for mistakes.
I wouldn't be disappointed with DeCastro because I feel you build a team along the line. But I think Richardson would be a great addition to this offense.
Rynie
03-26-2012, 11:00 AM
That's definitely a pickle. Dude's a beast, but RB is like what...LAST on our list of needs? I thought I read somewhere that the Cowboys will go BPA, but within the confines of our needs, yeah? Oh Lord, the draft needs to hurry up and get here. The anticipation is KILLING ME.
ABQCOWBOY
03-26-2012, 11:04 AM
If you could get decent trade value for Jones, then I would be all for this. The question is, could you get good trade value?
Staxxxx
03-26-2012, 11:22 AM
I honestly think that upgrading the interior OLine would do more for the running game than Richardson would. Of course the side effect would be better pass protection but I think I could eventually get used to that.
AbeBeta
03-26-2012, 11:35 AM
if he is there at 14 there will be a ton of teams looking to move up to get him
but he's not going to be there. no way.
Eskimo
03-26-2012, 11:49 AM
Adrian Peterson, Ray Rice, Chris Johnson, Maurice Jones-Drew
Thats the entire list of special running backs in the NFL right now.
Zero Super Bowl wins, zero Super Bowl appearances.
In todays NFL, you don't need a special running back. All you need is a stable of young guys with fresh legs that can keep churning out a hard yard or two late into the postseason. Having a special back doesn't get you anything.
I try hard to trade down to a team whose silly enough to jump up for a RB.
I say all this as a person who absolutely loves Trent Richardson, he's an unbelievable RB. I would just much much rather have passers, pass protectors, and pass rushers. Thats how you win in the NFL today.
Fair enough, but those RBs all play with QBs that would be described as mediocre to below average. It takes good teams to win championships and of those players only Rice plays on a good team with a mediocre QB and a very good but not dominant defense.
I do think Trent is possibly special. If he comes to Dallas he will be paired with a special QB and a bad defense. However, his impact on the running game could be enough to propel Romo's performance into the stratosphere if the OL is upgraded to above average.
I certainly would not advocate trading up for Richardson but if he fell to us and the choices on our board are Ingram, DeCastro, Cox and Richardson I would pick Richardson. I would have hopefully already worked out a deal for a team that is interested in acquiring DeMarco Murray for a very high second or a late first so that I can still go after an OG, OLB or CB but do so at a part of the draft where the value proposition is better for us.
I would also be okay with the trade down for an above value board alotment of picks with a focus on getting extra picks in the 2nd round or late first round.
BraveHeartFan
03-26-2012, 11:56 AM
If you're going to stay true to the BPA mentality on your draft board then I absolutely would pick him at 14.
If he's sitting there at 14 and he's the BPA on the Cowboys draft board then why wouldn't they pick him? The only reason not to is someone trades up with you, you move down a few slots for an extra pick or two, and get your next BPA on your list a few slots later.
So, yeah, I certainly wouldn't be upset if he was there at 14 and we took him. I'm all for the BPA picking. I don't think you go around picking BPA at a position of need. That causes you to move away from your draft board and is never a good idea.
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