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TheCount
03-26-2012, 01:19 PM
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Round 1 Pick 14 - David DeCastro OG Stanford (6-5 316)
Still makes the most sense to me. The only reservation is his position, not his skill, which everyone acknowledges is blue chip.

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Round 2 Pick 45 - Dwayne Allen TE Clemson (6-3 255)
We obviously have interest at bringing in another quality TE, so the idea that we draft yet another 2nd round TE isn't so outlandish, even if I don't like it.

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Round 3 Pick 81 - Alameda Ta'amu DT Washington (6-3 348)
I really wanted to love Poe, but Ta'amu may be better right now, even without the athletic upside.

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Round 4 Pick 112 - Philip Blake C Baylor (6-2 311)
Where there's smoke, there's fire. We've been checking him out, and he makes sense and fits the mold of the type of linemen we've been targeting.

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Round 5 Pick 143 - Jarius Wright WR Arkansas (5-10 182)
We need more receiver depth and an explosive returner, Wright fits the bill.

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Round 5 Comp - Frank Alexander OLB Oklahoma (6-4 270)
Not an obvious choice to play opposite Ware, but I think he'll be a steal for someone. Size to play the run, great motor and has shown pass rush ability.

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Round 6 Pick 174 - Miles Burris ILB/OLB San Diego State (6-2 250)
Terrific athlete with prime agility numbers and can play special teams. Will replace Butler, who will probably walk at the end of the year.

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Round 7 Pick 204 - Dale Moss WR South Dakota State (6'3" 213)
Moss had a 4.4 40, 41.5" vert, 10'10" broad and a 6.32 in 3 cone. The catch? He's only played a year of football, as basketball was his sport of choice until last year. Raw would be an understatement. Even still, he managed 61 catches, 949 yards and 6 TD's while averaging 15.6 yards per reception.

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Comments and random musings are always welcome! :D

Zaxor
03-26-2012, 01:27 PM
sorry buddy but I don't like any of it

not one little bit

casmith07
03-26-2012, 01:28 PM
I'm completely the opposite of Zaxor. Don't know much about the last pick but otherwise the top 5 are great.

NeonDeion21
03-26-2012, 01:31 PM
Love it. I think I would select Orson Charles, Vinny Curry, or Bruce Irvin in the 2nd but I am nit picking. Great job.

MidEastBeastL337
03-26-2012, 01:34 PM
Give me Harrison Smith > Dwayne Allen and I would absolutely love for this to happen. May have to trade back into the third for Blake though. And if Jarius isn't available, i,'d love to see us draft Terrance Ganaway and have him compete with Tanner for the third spot as a powrrback

Btw I love the last pick! He has some major upside with that kind of athleticism!!

xwalker
03-26-2012, 03:39 PM
I like most of it.

DeCastro is a no-brainer if available.

I'm ok with TE in the 2nd if he has really high upside.

Not sure that Ta'amu is what the Cowboys are looking for in the DL. I think they want more passrushers, i.e. the Calais Campbell type. Even if they move Rat to DE, I think they may be satisfied with Lissemore and Brent at NT.

I love the Blake and Burris picks and Alexander is good value in the 5th.

Two WRs and no CB? Not even Chris Greenwood in the 7th?

I would be dissapointed if they pass up both McClellin and Irving in the 2nd/3rd.

Woods
03-26-2012, 03:47 PM
I like the 1st and 5th round picks. Sorry, but otherwise, not my favorite mock.

Sasquatch
03-26-2012, 03:50 PM
Looks pretty good to me. What others players do you think will be on the board in the 2nd and 3rd when we choose?

TheCount
03-26-2012, 04:07 PM
I like most of it.

DeCastro is a no-brainer if available.

I'm ok with TE in the 2nd if he has really high upside.

Not sure that Ta'amu is what the Cowboys are looking for in the DL. I think they want more passrushers, i.e. the Calais Campbell type. Even if they move Rat to DE, I think they may be satisfied with Lissemore and Brent at NT.

I love the Blake and Burris picks and Alexander is good value in the 5th.

Two WRs and no CB? Not even Chris Greenwood in the 7th?

I would be dissapointed if they pass up both McClellin and Irving in the 2nd/3rd.

I noticed the lack of CB myself, and I do think we'll draft one at some point in the draft, this particular mock just didn't play out that way. In this mock, I'd expect us to sign some priority FA's to fill that role.

as far as DE, I would take TE in the 2nd, so that's where I'd expect one. Perhaps Kendall Reyes, Crick, or Kheeston Randall.

Love it. I think I would select Orson Charles, Vinny Curry, or Bruce Irvin in the 2nd but I am nit picking. Great job.

Charles scares me, not because of his arrest but because he may be athletically limited to go with his lack of ideal size. I did originally have Curry as that 2nd round pick by the way and I love Irvin, just not sure I'd take him in the 2nd and I expect him to be gone by pick 81.

I like the 1st and 5th round picks. Sorry, but otherwise, not my favorite mock.

To each his own, glad you found a few players you liked.

Looks pretty good to me. What others players do you think will be on the board in the 2nd and 3rd when we choose?

As I said earlier, I'd love to grab Kendall Reyes at 45 if he's there. Otherwise, if we pass on DeCastro in the 1st then I love Amini Silatolu. Also like Shea McClellin, Vinny Curry, Josh Robinson, Jared Crick and if we trade down a little bit, Bruce Irvin and Ben Jones.

The 3rd, I think, might be where we surprise and take that player that doesn't seem like a need. Something we do just about every in the mid rounds. So maybe (RB) LaMichael James, (WR) Greg Childs or (QB) Brock Osweiler? If not, it would be a prime spot to grab a CB like Dwight Bentley, Trumaine Johnson or maybe (OG) Brandon Washington if we don't take a guard earlier.

I would love it if we could find a way to make Michigan's Mike Martin work in our D, I absolutely love that kid.

RS12
03-26-2012, 04:17 PM
You know I recall Alexander shoving Riley Reiff around pretty good in their Bowl game. I think you may be on to something there. Also better go back and add your comp pick at 135.

TheCount
03-26-2012, 04:24 PM
You know I recall Alexander shoving Riley Reiff around pretty good in their Bowl game. I think you may be on to something there. Also better go back and add your comp pick at 135.

Yeah I just saw that, score another one for Adam! :laugh2:

As far as Alexander, yeah, from what I saw of him, I'm really surprised to see some sites say he may be around late in the draft and to read the questions about his explosiveness. He looked darn good to me.

AsthmaField
03-26-2012, 05:19 PM
Absolutely love it.

If you put Vinny Curry in the second instead of Allen, I would love it even more.

CowboyFan74
03-26-2012, 05:30 PM
I love all of it except taking two wr's...

We need a CB in there...

tm1119
03-26-2012, 05:38 PM
Hate the Ta'amu pick. He's nothing more than a big body. Give me a good CB in the 3rd instead of him and I wouldn't have a problem with this draft.

MichaelWinicki
03-26-2012, 06:22 PM
Wow!

No corners...

No safety...



No.

Risen Star
03-26-2012, 06:50 PM
I'd sign off on that right now and call it an offseason.

xwalker
03-26-2012, 07:36 PM
I'd sign off on that right now and call it an offseason.

RS, could you help me decide between my 2 mock draft ideas:

Mock A:
Trade down in the 1st and select the following:
1 CB Dre Kirkpatrick
2 CB Janoris Jenkins
2 CB Josh Robinson
3 CB Trumaine Johnson
4 CB Omar Bolden
5 CB Josh Norman
6 CB Asa Jackson
7 CB Cliff Harris
UDFA CB Coty Sensabaugh
UDFA CB Chris Greenwood

I'm hoping to get Minnefield with the supplemental pick and I'm really struggling with the fact that I missed out on Brandon Boykin.

Mock B:
Trade 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th and 7th to move up and select Morris Claiborne.

MichaelWinicki
03-26-2012, 07:45 PM
RS, could you help me decide between my 2 mock draft ideas:

Mock A:
Trade down in the 1st and select the following:
1 CB Dre Kirkpatrick
2 CB Janoris Jenkins
2 CB Josh Robinson
3 CB Trumaine Johnson
4 CB Omar Bolden
5 CB Josh Norman
6 CB Asa Jackson
7 CB Cliff Harris
UDFA CB Coty Sensabaugh
UDFA CB Chris Greenwood

I'm hoping to get Minnefield with the supplemental pick and I'm really struggling with the fact that I missed out on Brandon Boykin.

Mock B:
Trade 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th and 7th to move up and select Morris Claiborne.

:laugh2:

And the explosion starts in... 3... 2...

Bowdown27
03-26-2012, 07:55 PM
No way we wait until the third round to go defense

TheCount
03-26-2012, 11:01 PM
No way we wait until the third round to go defense

We didn't wait, we paid Brandon Carr 10m per year. :laugh2:

As I said, the 2nd round is where I'd address most of the complaints you guys have of the mock, I threw a TE in because we like to throw people for a loop and I want you all to be as angry as I will be if we take one in the 2nd yet again. :laugh2:

Also, all the people giving Alameda Ta'amu should go back and actually watch him. I was just like you guys. Heck, watch Poe and then watch Ta'amu and you'll be shocked to see that Ta'amu is more explosive, more physically dominant and gives more consistent effort.

He's got functional, on-field strength, and he knows how to use it. He absolutely crushes pockets, and double team slow him down but they don't stop the onslaught. When he hits linemen, they go backwards.

Much like Frank Alexander, what I'd read didn't really match up with what I saw.

As for CB and Safety, see my sig for the safety I want and where. Later in the draft, I had trouble selecting a few of them because they were as limited physically as Church is, and I actually like Church so why not give him the shot. Sensy just got signed so he's not going anywhere, meaning I was only looking at SS.

If it makes you feel better to imagine a CB at #45, feel free to do so, I'd probably be right there with you.

TheCount
03-26-2012, 11:06 PM
I'd sign off on that right now and call it an offseason.

Thanks, I know the TE and 2 WR's would drive people nuts. :laugh2:

GloryDaysRBack
03-26-2012, 11:12 PM
I LOVE this mock!!! Dont like Blake at all but I'll take this draft in a heartbeat.

I do agree w the previous poster in regards to us not drafting defense earlier..not so mch bc I want to, moreso, bc that's what I think we will do

DFWJC
03-26-2012, 11:17 PM
Love it. I think I would select Orson Charles, Vinny Curry, or Bruce Irvin in the 2nd but I am nit picking. Great job.

This works

Eskimo
03-27-2012, 12:16 AM
I don't hate the second round TE but I do hate that second round TE.

We need someone who is a much better athlete. We can't be focused on getting someone to be a blocker at that part of the draft. You can always sign guys like this in FA for a pittance. You have to be looking for guys with huge upsides as receivers and Allen is just not good enough. Now if you put Fleener in there I'd be okay with it.

As for the NT in the 3rd, I'm just not convinced about him. I'd rather take the best CB on the board there.

I probably would have addressed OLB earlier than you did.

I still look at DeCastro as a luxury at #14. If this guy where agile and smart plus a devastating drive blocker I could see the point in drafting in OG at #14 but he isn't and so I really don't see the point. He is a good player and in a normal draft would go in the early 20s or so but this is a weak draft and we have a weak interior so everyone wants us to reach but I think it would be bad for our rebuilding program. I'd be much happier to deal with any OG needs in the 2nd or 3rd round. The issue isn't a huge one at the moment because we could play the two new guys and Killa Kowalski and have an average interior OL tomorrow. OTOH our defensive pass rush and secondary depth are atrocious. We have to focus here in the draft if we want to improve. The best scenario by far for us is a trade down to allow us to fill more needs by drafting in the middle of the draft where the depth is great at our positions of need.

BAT
03-27-2012, 01:56 AM
RS, could you help me decide between my 2 mock draft ideas:

Mock A:
Trade down in the 1st and select the following:
1 CB Dre Kirkpatrick
2 CB Janoris Jenkins
2 CB Josh Robinson
3 CB Trumaine Johnson
4 CB Omar Bolden
5 CB Josh Norman
6 CB Asa Jackson
7 CB Cliff Harris
UDFA CB Coty Sensabaugh
UDFA CB Chris Greenwood

I'm hoping to get Minnefield with the supplemental pick and I'm really struggling with the fact that I missed out on Brandon Boykin.

Mock B:
Trade 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th and 7th to move up and select Morris Claiborne.

Nice to know that someone else is clued in to Albion's Chris Greenwood.

TheCount
03-27-2012, 07:43 AM
I don't hate the second round TE but I do hate that second round TE.

I agree. I'd prefer Michael Egnew or James Hannah later in the draft.

As for the NT in the 3rd, I'm just not convinced about him. I'd rather take the best CB on the board there.

I'd probably take that CB in the 2nd, as I've said earlier in the dicussion, or later. I actually an pretty high on Ta'amu these days. You really should try going back and watching more of him, I was right there with you up until recently.


I still look at DeCastro as a luxury at #14. If this guy where agile and smart plus a devastating drive blocker I could see the point in drafting in OG at #14 but he isn't and so I really don't see the point.

Everything I've read and seen indicates DeCastro can pass and run block. I don't think it's a luxury to solve a long running problem and give Romo some better protection. He's broken something 3 of the last 4 seasons - collar bone, hand and ribs. He's not getting any younger and there's no reason why our QB should be suffering these kinds of injuries.

Romo has always had elite skill players around him, but never elite protection. I think we've put it off long enough.


Thanks for the comments, it's a good discussion.

jterrell
03-27-2012, 10:50 AM
Round 1 Pick 14 - David DeCastro OG Stanford (6-5 316)
Positional issue is very real. No way I take him at 14. If you trade down he becomes an option for me.

Round 2 Pick 45 - Dwayne Allen TE Clemson (6-3 255)
I wouldn't ignore TE but if you give me OG R1 then TE in R2 you are fired. 45 is very high for a 2nd or 3rd TE.

Round 3 Pick 81 - Alameda Ta'amu DT Washington (6-3 348)
Will be gone. Guys this big get picked before their rating by quite a bit. If he is there I'd have no issue however,

Round 4 Pick 112 - Philip Blake C Baylor (6-2 311)
End of the interior OG guys. Not a bad player but better players in r2 and 3 we could nab. OG, TE and OC in first 4 rounds? NO!!

Round 5 Pick 143 - Jarius Wright WR Arkansas (5-10 182)
One pick I'd have 0 issue with.


Round 5 Comp - Frank Alexander OLB Oklahoma (6-4 270)
Ehhh... we can use depth at position but not sure Alexander is better than Albright.


Round 6 Pick 174 - Miles Burris ILB/OLB San Diego State (6-2 250)
ILB is pretty deep now actually. eh pick for me.

Round 7 Pick 204 - Dale Moss WR South Dakota State (6'3" 213)
If he can play ST that works.

All in all I'd really dislike this haul. Get rid of tunnel vision on offensive line and it will improve dramatically.

MichaelWinicki
03-27-2012, 11:24 AM
All in all I'd really dislike this haul. Get rid of tunnel vision on offensive line and it will improve dramatically.

I agree about the tunnel vision on the interior of the offensive line.

The team has two returning draft picks from last year...

The team just signed two experienced offensive linemen...

The team has two undrafted free agents one who didn't perform well at the beginning part of the year (due to inexperience and injury) and another who performed fairly well when pressed into service.

That's six guys for 3 positions now.

I can see one interior lineman being added next month... But not two.

TheCount
03-27-2012, 03:13 PM
lol, it's Tunnel Vision now is it, boys? That's how you want to play it! You do realize it's a mock draft and not the real thing, I hope. I hope we never pass on elite talent because we already have "guys".

cowboysooner
03-27-2012, 03:29 PM
I agree about the tunnel vision on the interior of the offensive line.

The team has two returning draft picks from last year...

The team just signed two experienced offensive linemen...

The team has two undrafted free agents one who didn't perform well at the beginning part of the year (due to inexperience and injury) and another who performed fairly well when pressed into service.

That's six guys for 3 positions now.

I can see one interior lineman being added next month... But not two.

You don't get it.
Sure we could have signed a player for $5million per in free agency, but we decided to get two cheaper players because we are going to use our 1st and 3rd on center and guard.

Risen Star
03-27-2012, 05:57 PM
RS, could you help me decide between my 2 mock draft ideas:

Mock A:
Trade down in the 1st and select the following:
1 CB Dre Kirkpatrick
2 CB Janoris Jenkins
2 CB Josh Robinson
3 CB Trumaine Johnson
4 CB Omar Bolden
5 CB Josh Norman
6 CB Asa Jackson
7 CB Cliff Harris
UDFA CB Coty Sensabaugh
UDFA CB Chris Greenwood

I'm hoping to get Minnefield with the supplemental pick and I'm really struggling with the fact that I missed out on Brandon Boykin.

Mock B:
Trade 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th and 7th to move up and select Morris Claiborne.

http://www.clicksmilies.com/s1106/lachen/laughing-smiley-004.gif

I saw a trucker talking on a CB radio the other day. Pissed me off the rest of the day.

Risen Star
03-27-2012, 05:59 PM
I didn't say I'd sign off on this class because there are no cornerbacks. I'm fine with taking one or even two in this draft. I just happen to like the players Count targeted and where he targeted them. They make sense and they'd really help address some serious issues with this team.

Risen Star
03-27-2012, 06:02 PM
Thanks, I know the TE and 2 WR's would drive people nuts. :laugh2:

You have to update it now though, bro. Make that 5th round comp pick a 4th rounder.

People may not like the idea of taking two WRs, but if Moss is still around in the 7th after that workout, I doubt anyone would be upset with making that pick.

Oh_Canada
03-27-2012, 06:41 PM
Love this mock if it were Cox at #14 and Zeitler or Silatou in the second.

DFWJC
03-27-2012, 10:49 PM
Thanks, I know the TE and 2 WR's would drive people nuts. :laugh2:

Lol
Yes, that is overkill to say the least