Wrestlemania Thread

[Phoenix]

Oh wait. Was there one before? This year, even...? I forget.

SO! Who's going to be paying $7,250.99 for the show?! Or something like that. Close.

Me? I'll be watching for free over the internet again :)

Oh, and I got Cena and Rock both losing, somehow, to be carried over yet ANOTHER year ha ha.

And HBK somehow kicks BOTH HHH and Taker off into retirement for good :)

[Biggems]

how do u watch it for free online?

i was thinking of going to a local sportsbar to watch.

[speedkilz88]

You guys know it isn't a real sport right?

[big dog cowboy]

You guys know it isn't a real sport right?
It's a sporting event.

[speedkilz88]

It's a sporting event.
:facepalm: It's entertainment. You can have a concert in a stadium etc and that doesn't make it a sporting event.

[zrinkill]

You guys know it isn't a real sport right?

...... <sigh>

[big dog cowboy]

:facepalm: It's entertainment. You can have a concert in a stadium etc and that doesn't make it a sporting event.

Sure it is. They even sing the National Anthem.

[zrinkill]

I wonder if he goes into the movie threads and says ......"hey guys, you know its not real right ... derp!"

[Phoenix]

well hopefully fromsportcom.com will come through for me again. I can usually find any and all WWE PPVs on it live

[speedkilz88]

I wonder if he goes into the movie threads and says ......"hey guys, you know its not real right ... derp!"This is the sports zone dude. Not the low brow entertainment zone. (or off topic zone) where it should be.

[Hook'em#11]

This is the sports zone dude. Not the low brow entertainment zone. (or off topic zone) where it should be.

You ever done it? Actually seen the matches? Doubt it...

Sure, it is fake, they don't intentionally want to hurt anyone.

But, to say that it doesn't take stamina, strength or anything like that is just plain ignorant.

It's as much of a "sport" as tennis or golf is. But, still is entertainment.


Hopefully The Taker goes 20-0 and goes out a winner.

[dargonking999]

You do know there is already a thread on this right

[BraveHeartFan]

You guys know it isn't a real sport right?


Nope. You're not at least the 100th person to make the same boring statement in a wrestling thread.


This is the sports zone dude. Not the low brow entertainment zone. (or off topic zone) where it should be.

Then stay out of the topic.

Pretty simple.

No one asked you to come in here and read anything on something you don't like.

[zrinkill]

This is the sports zone dude. Not the low brow entertainment zone. (or off topic zone) where it should be.

This is where the Mods have said these threads should be posted ......if you do not like it ...... go cry somewhere else.

I am glad you think you are so refined ...... you sound like the sissy snobs who call American football a barbaric sport.

[Biggems]

You guys know it isn't a real sport right?

you mean it's not real?.....33 years of watching wrestling and this whole time I have been watching a lie....I am such an idiot, I feel so used, so dirty....


Seriously.....speed, I would insult you, but I don't want the ban, nor do I feel like you are worth the insult....but just know this, ALL WRESTLING FANS KNOW IT IS FAKE, EVEN CHILDREN...and we are ok with that. Movies are fake. Plays are fake. Cartoons are fake. Hell, even Boxing is fake now.

So please take your condescending tone elsewhere....We get it, you don't like wrestling......and if so, just stay out of the thread instead of trying to cause trouble and create tension.

[daschoo]

You ever done it? Actually seen the matches? Doubt it...

Sure, it is fake, they don't intentionally want to hurt anyone.

But, to say that it doesn't take stamina, strength or anything like that is just plain ignorant.

It's as much of a "sport" as tennis or golf is. But, still is entertainment.


Hopefully The Taker goes 20-0 and goes out a winner.

What??? I'm going to a local wrestling show on Sunday with a few of the boys before getting the beers in and going round to my mates to watch 'mania which starts at midnight here so I'm certainly not knocking wrestling but the bolded part is just ridiculous.

[numnuts23]

In regards to next years Mania, there are plenty of rumors flying out there right now with Stone Cold and Lesnar wanting to sign on. I figured after The Rock did his deal this year with basically just one big fight, you might see some of the older guys do the same. Austin actually tweeted recently to Punk that if the stars line up right, he would open a can of whoop --- a year from now in NYC (next years mania location)

Austin vs. Punk - the most likely match

Lesnar vs. Undertaker - history together already and of course The Streak on the line.

[Bowdown27]

The once in a lifetime documentary was more exciting then raw last night. Still pumped for Sunday !!

[Bowdown27]

In regards to next years Mania, there are plenty of rumors flying out there right now with Stone Cold and Lesnar wanting to sign on. I figured after The Rock did his deal this year with basically just one big fight, you might see some of the older guys do the same. Austin actually tweeted recently to Punk that if the stars line up right, he would open a can of whoop --- a year from now in NYC (next years mania location)

Austin vs. Punk - the most likely match

Lesnar vs. Undertaker - history together already and of course The Streak on the line.

The Rock will be there next year too. Supposedly more rumors is cena va rock again

[Hook'em#11]

What??? I'm going to a local wrestling show on Sunday with a few of the boys before getting the beers in and going round to my mates to watch 'mania which starts at midnight here so I'm certainly not knocking wrestling but the bolded part is just ridiculous.

Nothing ridiculous about it, but, that is your opinion.

Hope you enjoy the show.

[BraveHeartFan]

The Rock will be there next year too. Supposedly more rumors is cena va rock again


Ive actually started to think that's exactly whats going to happen because I believe what they're going to do is either someone is going to come out and screw Cena, allowing Rock to win, or someone is going to come out and attack them both cause the match to be thrown out or something.

I've just got this feeling they're going to end it in some way that keeps it from actually being over so that they can use them to face one another again next year.


And Austin vs. Punk would be absolutely awesome.

[BoysFan4ever]

You ever done it? Actually seen the matches? Doubt it...

Sure, it is fake, they don't intentionally want to hurt anyone.

But, to say that it doesn't take stamina, strength or anything like that is just plain ignorant.

It's as much of a "sport" as tennis or golf is. But, still is entertainment.


Hopefully The Taker goes 20-0 and goes out a winner.


Great message board. Glad I found you guys. And wrestling talk too. I really believe as long as Taker can continue the streak he will. He just had his 47th birthday this week. I think his match this weekend will be great. If he can walk he'll deliver. Their match last year was great. I'm anxious to see Rock & Cena too.

[daschoo]

Nothing ridiculous about it, but, that is your opinion.

Hope you enjoy the show.

Results in tennis and golf are not predetermined. The winner is decided on the skill, athleticism and luck of the contestants not on who can sell more t-shirts. I really don't see how you can compare the two.

[Phoenix]

Great message board. Glad I found you guys. And wrestling talk too. I really believe as long as Taker can continue the streak he will. He just had his 47th birthday this week. I think his match this weekend will be great. If he can walk he'll deliver. Their match last year was great. I'm anxious to see Rock & Cena too.



:welcome:

:)

[dargonking999]

Ive actually started to think that's exactly whats going to happen because I believe what they're going to do is either someone is going to come out and screw Cena, allowing Rock to win, or someone is going to come out and attack them both cause the match to be thrown out or something.

I've just got this feeling they're going to end it in some way that keeps it from actually being over so that they can use them to face one another again next year.


And Austin vs. Punk would be absolutely awesome.

as stupid as wwe creative is they're not that stupid They have pushed this for a year as never before never again, they can't do it again. I see a clean finish with someone(lesnar) coming in and attacking cena leading to a cena vs lesnar match with the Rock as the refree

[BoysFan4ever]

:welcome:

:)

Thanks. Extremely cool board.

[Hook'em#11]

Results in tennis and golf are not predetermined. The winner is decided on the skill, athleticism and luck of the contestants not on who can sell more t-shirts. I really don't see how you can compare the two.

I wasn't comparing them on a win/lose basis. Or t-shirt sales.

I was comparing in a physical attribute way. Wrestling, although fake takes endurance, strength and believe it or not, skill. Just like tennis and golf do, and those are sports.

So is wrestling, just in an entertainment sort of way.

[BoysFan4ever]

Ive actually started to think that's exactly whats going to happen because I believe what they're going to do is either someone is going to come out and screw Cena, allowing Rock to win, or someone is going to come out and attack them both cause the match to be thrown out or something.

I've just got this feeling they're going to end it in some way that keeps it from actually being over so that they can use them to face one another again next year.


And Austin vs. Punk would be absolutely awesome.

I agree with you. Same match next year. They are doing that with Taker & HHH. We'll probably find out Monday @ RAW.

[BraveHeartFan]

I agree with you. Same match next year. They are doing that with Taker & HHH. We'll probably find out Monday @ RAW.

This is my fear. They've done this with a match for the last few years now. You had HBK vs. Taker on back to back years. Now Taker vs. HHH on back to back years.

I've just got this feeling that they're going to end this match in such a way that we'll have Cena vs. Rock on back to back years.

And the only thing they advertised as never before, never again, was their tag team match up at Survivor Series.

Now they've billed this match as a once in a lifetime match but that's been said about a million big time match ups over the years that they then went on and did multiple times.


I hope this isn't the case here. I really don't need another year of Rock vs. Cena here and there and all that stuff. They need to move on from them after WM 28 but I've just got a feeling they're not.

[vlad]

You ever done it? Actually seen the matches? Doubt it...

Sure, it is fake, they don't intentionally want to hurt anyone.

But, to say that it doesn't take stamina, strength or anything like that is just plain ignorant.

It's as much of a "sport" as tennis or golf is. But, still is entertainment.


Hopefully The Taker goes 20-0 and goes out a winner.

I can't believe you just compared tennis to wrestling. Tennis requires more skill, athleticism and focus than just about any real sport. That's intense competition...one on one for hours. I would put wrestling more on par with ballroom...those people are jacked for a reason. They just prefer to rub sweaty against someone in tights from the opposite sex! ;)
And I have no hate for wrestling...but I don't see how it's a sport in all, and frankly I just discounted my ballroom comparison considering one is competitive.

[BoysFan4ever]

I think we get Rock/Cena next year or Cena /Taker.

It will be interesting to see if Rock has any ring rust on him Sunday. He looked good at SS.

[Biggems]

Oh wait. Was there one before? This year, even...? I forget.

SO! Who's going to be paying $7,250.99 for the show?! Or something like that. Close.

Me? I'll be watching for free over the internet again :)

Oh, and I got Cena and Rock both losing, somehow, to be carried over yet ANOTHER year ha ha.

And HBK somehow kicks BOTH HHH and Taker off into retirement for good :)

how do u watch it for free online?

[CM Duck]

Cena will win

Punk vs Jericho SHOULD steal the show, even tho I hate the lack of hype for that match.

Taker will win, just hope there isnt any screwjobs involved. Taker's promo was dead-on(get it?), the match needs to be PURE.

[Biggems]

Cena will win

Punk vs Jericho SHOULD steal the show, even tho I hate the lack of hype for that match.

Taker will win, just hope there isnt any screwjobs involved. Taker's promo was dead-on(get it?), the match needs to be PURE.


the thing i dont like about the Taker/HHH match is that they have failed to mention that they have already fought twice at Wrestlemania. They only seem to focus on last year's meeting.

[BoysFan4ever]

the thing i dont like about the Taker/HHH match is that they have failed to mention that they have already fought twice at Wrestlemania. They only seem to focus on last year's meeting.

That's because of the way it ended & it's obvious now this match was set last year as was Rock & Cena. I think Taker probably tells them who he will wrestle at WM's. There has to be a huge comfort zone there for both of them. They know each other so well. I expect the match to be tremendous.

[BraveHeartFan]

That's because of the way it ended & it's obvious now this match was set last year as was Rock & Cena. I think Taker probably tells them who he will wrestle at WM's. There has to be a huge comfort zone there for both of them. They know each other so well. I expect the match to be tremendous.


From what I understand Taker does personally hand pick his WM opponents and has for years now. Do to being a little more worn down each year, even with the long rests due to his age and just wear and tear, he has been picking people he's a lot more comfortable in the ring with.

Thus the two straight with HBK and now two straight with HHH. They're the guys he's most comfortable with, trusts the most in the ring, and knows they're going to put on a show together.


I doubt very much you'll see him in a WM with Cena. I'd be pretty surprised by that to be honest with you.

[BoysFan4ever]

I read the Cena/Taker scenario on a wrestling website which I know are not very accurate. Would be an interesting match I guess.

Taker is amazing.

[Romo 2 Austin]

Will be going over my friends house for wrestlemania we will be ordering it this year - All my friends are like me in that they exclusively watch TNA outside of Wrestlemania season. Looking forward to Jericho-Punk which we are all insanely excited about. Seeing the rock in action will be cool, HBKs involvement makes HHH-Taker exciting but the ending is still predictable and the Lesnar rumors are intriguing. Jericho-Punk will steal the show.

[Phoenix]

and the Lesnar rumors are intriguing. Jericho-Punk will steal the show.


Sigh...okay...I'll ask...what rumors?

[zrinkill]

Sigh...okay...I'll ask...what rumors?

You will regret that.

[Romo 2 Austin]

Sigh...okay...I'll ask...what rumors?

We all know The Rock is slated to face John Cena this Sunday at WrestleMania 28. However, The Rock is also committed to appear at next year’s WrestleMania as well, and in an interview with AP Sports Writer Dan Gelston, Rocky was asked about possibly facing ex-Undisputed WWE Champion / retired UFC Champion Brock Lesnar at WrestleMania 29 at MetLife Stadium in New Jersey.

The article states:

Johnson has committed to appearing at next year’s WrestleMania at MetLife Stadium in East Rutherford, N.J. In what role, he hasn’t said.
It’s clear if the WWE wants to squeeze another potential blockbuster buy rate out of the Rock, the last man standing to get the headline match would be the return of former WWE and UFC heavyweight champion Brock Lesnar.

How about it: Brock vs. Rock at WrestleMania 29?

“I’m not saying a thing,” said a laughing, grinning Rock, eyebrow raised. “I didn’t say anything.”

The Rock silenced. That’s a first.

In addition to that tidbit, the article covers Rock’s movie career, why he came back to WWE and why John Cena had to be his opponent:

The Rock, who rose to stardom in the wrestling business, says there’s nowhere else he’d rather drop The People’s Elbow than in the ring. The Rock returns to the WWE for his first WrestleMania match since 2004 when he headlines the April 1 card against former champion John Cena at Sun Life Stadium in Miami.

For a company once home to Hulk Hogan and “Stone Cold” Steve Austin, this bout is as close as it gets to a dream match. Catchphrase-chanting, die-hard pro wrestling lovers are revved up about the return of The Great One. Casual fans, too.

“I came back to put on the biggest match of all time,” Johnson said. “That’s all I want to do. There’s no one I can do that with right now other than John. He’s far and above everyone else in terms of popularity. He’s the guy. Is he Stone Cold? No. Is he Hogan? No. But he is John Cena and he’s been on top for a long time now.”

Johnson reigned in that top spot at the end of the 1990s and the early part of the last decade before embarking on an impressive run in Hollywood. His current film, “Journey 2: The Mysterious Island,” grossed $95 million in its first six weeks domestically and reached $300 million worldwide. His previous movie, “Fast Five,” made more than $210 million in domestic grosses, proving that Johnson knows how to rock the box office.

All that big-ticket drawing power is why the WWE believes he can attract more than a million pay-per-view buys (at $54.95 a pop) in his return singles match.

“They know that I’m back, not for money, not because I like being on the road, but because I love the business,” Johnson said. “The energy level is different this time around, the connection is more emotional this time around.”

For the full article, which also covers the year-long Rock-Cena in further detail, click here.


http://wrestling.insidepulse.com/2012/03/28/the-rock-talks-john-cena-at-wrestlemania-28-brock-lesnar-at-wrestlemania-29/



Lots of people are speculating that the math vs Cena will end with interference with someone laying both out, the main people being speculated are Batista or Lesnar. Possibly a darkhorse out there like Austin.

If Lesnar deal gets done people speculate he will come out, lay out both and than WM29 will be Lesnar v. Rock. I am going to be attending WM29 so this would be amazing lol

[BoysFan4ever]

Hope the only way Lesnar ever comes back is if he buys a ticket.

[BraveHeartFan]

Ugh.

I'd hate that to be honest.


Now I'm all for having Lesnar comeback to wrestling, though I'd honestly be surprised given the fact that he hated the constant travel and thats why he left before, but a year of him building up a WM29 match with the Rock?

Sorry but that would just flat out suck.

I've already seen Rock vs. Brock at Summer Slam a long time ago. If you're going to build something for a year like that it needs to be against someone the Rock has never faced.

[Hook'em#11]

I can't believe you just compared tennis to wrestling. Tennis requires more skill, athleticism and focus than just about any real sport. That's intense competition...one on one for hours. I would put wrestling more on par with ballroom...those people are jacked for a reason. They just prefer to rub sweaty against someone in tights from the opposite sex! ;)
And I have no hate for wrestling...but I don't see how it's a sport in all, and frankly I just discounted my ballroom comparison considering one is competitive.


That's great news.

[jrumann59]

Austin is not coming back he is one DDT/piledriver away from a wheelchair. His neck is worse shape than peyton mannings.

[BraveHeartFan]

Austin is not coming back he is one DDT/piledriver away from a wheelchair. His neck is worse shape than peyton mannings.


Last things I'd read was the he'd actually been cleared to be able to wrestle on a very limited basis. And he hasn't taken a piledriver in years, not since Owen messed his neck up to begin with, so there is zero worry of that happening.

[Romo 2 Austin]

Austin is not coming back he is one DDT/piledriver away from a wheelchair. His neck is worse shape than peyton mannings.

He will wrestle one more time. I guarantee it.

[Romo 2 Austin]

Ugh.

I'd hate that to be honest.


Now I'm all for having Lesnar comeback to wrestling, though I'd honestly be surprised given the fact that he hated the constant travel and thats why he left before, but a year of him building up a WM29 match with the Rock?

Sorry but that would just flat out suck.

I've already seen Rock vs. Brock at Summer Slam a long time ago. If you're going to build something for a year like that it needs to be against someone the Rock has never faced.

I attended that SummerSlam. I would love to see Rock vs Brock next year. WWE would love it. The mainstream media would love it. The sports media would love it. It would be the biggest possible matchup WWE will ever be able to produce, and the biggest match in the companies history.

Rock v. Brock on next years card and they can put Santino Marella vs John Cena for the WWE title and it'll break every buy rate record.


Rock v. Brock
Cena v. Punk WWE Title
HHH v. HBK

Save Taker and Austin for 30.

[vlad]

That's great news.

Hey man reading back that did come off as a d-bag statement...not meaning to rain on any parades...my bad, just get touchy when ppl bag on tennis, soccer, etc...

As I said no hate for the square circle!

[BoysFan4ever]

Other than Austin coming out & cutting a promo I really don't have much interest in seeing him wrestle.

[Romo 2 Austin]

Other than Austin coming out & cutting a promo I really don't have much interest in seeing him wrestle.

I agree with you. A Austin match I have no desire to see but an Austin program and the promos I would love to see.

[BraveHeartFan]

I attended that SummerSlam. I would love to see Rock vs Brock next year. WWE would love it. The mainstream media would love it. The sports media would love it. It would be the biggest possible matchup WWE will ever be able to produce, and the biggest match in the companies history.

Rock v. Brock on next years card and they can put Santino Marella vs John Cena for the WWE title and it'll break every buy rate record.


Rock v. Brock
Cena v. Punk WWE Title
HHH v. HBK

Save Taker and Austin for 30.

Oh brother.

Biggest ever?

It wouldn't even come close to touching how big Hogan vs. Rock was. That's just a plain silly statement.

Brock was really good in WWE but he wasn't even in the top 10 best they've ever had there so I'm really not sure how you're inflating anything involving Brock to be the biggest ever for the WWE.

Hell HBK vs. HHH would be FAR bigger than Brock vs. Rock and it's been done a million times. I think you're way over valuing the draw of Brock even with the UFC stuff.


I can easily think of about 10 matches that would be a far bigger draw to me, and possibly to a large majority of WWE fans, involving Rock that have absolutely nothing to do with Brock.

[Romo 2 Austin]

Oh brother.

Biggest ever?

It wouldn't even come close to touching how big Hogan vs. Rock was. That's just a plain silly statement.

Brock was really good in WWE but he wasn't even in the top 10 best they've ever had there so I'm really not sure how you're inflating anything involving Brock to be the biggest ever for the WWE.

Hell HBK vs. HHH would be FAR bigger than Brock vs. Rock and it's been done a million times. I think you're way over valuing the draw of Brock even with the UFC stuff.


I can easily think of about 10 matches that would be a far bigger draw to me, and possibly to a large majority of WWE fans, involving Rock that have absolutely nothing to do with Brock.

Brock Lesnar vs The Rock would not only have every wrestling fan excited it would have UFC fans intrigued, it would have mainstream pop culture people interested. It would be bigger than wrestling.

[BoysFan4ever]

Doesn't Lesnar have some serious medical things going on? Stomach wise? I thought I read or heard where he retired from "sports" because he was so sick.

[BraveHeartFan]

Brock Lesnar vs The Rock would not only have every wrestling fan excited it would have UFC fans intrigued, it would have mainstream pop culture people interested. It would be bigger than wrestling.


Maybe.

I don't see it.


I can't see a whole lot of UFC fans running over to watch pro wrestling just because Brock Lesnar is part of it.

I give Brock all the respect in the world for what he accomplished in MMA but lets be honest the hardcore MMA fans aren't interested in what he does in pro wrestling because he was an average, at best, heavyweight who benefited a great deal from over powering much smaller heavyweights.



As far as big time matches, dream matches, huge matches for pro wrestling this match wouldn't even touch the bottom run of the Hogan vs. Rock match up.

[BraveHeartFan]

Doesn't Lesnar have some serious medical things going on? Stomach wise? I thought I read or heard where he retired from "sports" because he was so sick.

He's had two bouts with some sort of intestinal problem that kept him out of MMA for two very long stretches.

[zrinkill]

As far as big time matches, dream matches, huge matches for pro wrestling this match wouldn't even touch the bottom run of the Hogan vs. Rock match up.

I agree ...... it would be much less than Cena vs Rock.

[BraveHeartFan]

I agree ...... it would be much less than Cena vs Rock.


Agreed.


I like Brock as much as the next guy but I really think his value and importance to both pro wrestling, and even more so to UFC, is being greatly exaggerated here.

[Hook'em#11]

Hey man reading back that did come off as a d-bag statement...not meaning to rain on any parades...my bad, just get touchy when ppl bag on tennis, soccer, etc...

As I said no hate for the square circle!

LOL.. Naw, not at all man. No worries.

I wasn't slaggin on tennis or golf. I just think that wrestling is right there with them. Well, the tennis was a bit of stretch. I like tennis.

Kinda bummed I am gonna miss what could possibly be the Taker's last match.:bang2:

[BoysFan4ever]

He's had two bouts with some sort of intestinal problem that kept him out of MMA for two very long stretches.

Thanks for the heads up. I was beginning to think I dreamed that he was sick. Hope he is ok.

[Romo 2 Austin]

People are saying it is "50/50" if Lesnar will return to WWE on Sunday at Mania. They are working on the numbers right now.


Lesnar v. Rock WM29.... YESSSS!!!!! :D

[zrinkill]

I believe if Lesnar comes back it will be to work with Taker.

[BoysFan4ever]

People are saying it is "50/50" if Lesnar will return to WWE on Sunday at Mania. They are working on the numbers right now.


Lesnar v. Rock WM29.... YESSSS!!!!! :D

Are these "people" the same type of sources the tabloids use when they say an "unnamed friend" or an "unnamed source" said this or said that?

[BraveHeartFan]

I believe if Lesnar comes back it will be to work with Taker.


That's a lot more likely. They are pretty good friends and it would be a real nice match up for him next Mania.


I just don't see a Rock vs. Brock match up. I don't see where this appeal for that is coming from. That wouldn't make me excited for Mania.

Their one match, years ago, wasn't even that good and that was when they were in a lot better ring shape and in the flow of their craft.


Why the hell would anyone care about this match up of two part time wrestlers? Are people certain Brock is coming back to be a fulltime wrestler?

If not then you've got two guys who will show up once in a while and you're going to try and build and bill that as a Mania match up?


That's a tough sell.

[BraveHeartFan]

People are saying it is "50/50" if Lesnar will return to WWE on Sunday at Mania. They are working on the numbers right now.


Lesnar v. Rock WM29.... YESSSS!!!!! :D


These aren't the same people who were 100% certain that Punk was leaving the WWE and he was never coming back....are they?

[BoysFan4ever]

I don't have time to search it out but there is a YouTube video out there of a Taker interview & he said he has personal issues with Lesnar. I don't think he was saying that in character; got the feeling he didn't like him at all. But you guys would know more probably about that.

[Romo 2 Austin]

Are these "people" the same type of sources the tabloids use when they say an "unnamed friend" or an "unnamed source" said this or said that?

Not in this case. But we will see come Sunday. But I would take the bet that Lesnar will be returning to WWE its just a matter of when.

[Romo 2 Austin]

The word at today's Wrestlemania media conference was that WWE will repeat last year and announce a major match for Wrestlemania 29 in New Jersey on Raw this Monday. It wasn't specifically said but several people, while being interviewed, strongly hinted at it to different media sources.




Either Rock Brock or Austin Punk will be announced, I believe it'll be Rock Brock as that is much bigger for the mainstream media than Punk, Austin would be.

[BoysFan4ever]

Have no wish to see Austin wrestle again. He can cut great promos though but even if he got the go-ahead medically to wrestle I wouldn't expect much from him wrestling-wise. But money talks.

I never liked Lesnar even when he was on the roster. I would rather they just stick Michaels in there than Austin.

[Romo 2 Austin]

Batista has been spotted in Miami. My belief is if they don't get the Lesnar deal done Batista will fill the role. Batista-Rock doesn't seem as exciting but still an interesting direction to go.

[BoysFan4ever]

I'd rather Batista come back over Brock.

[dargonking999]

If the deal with Lesnar can go through it will be post match Batista comes out and lays out John Cena, As the Rock decides to go help, Lesnar will come out and go after the rock, The rock and John will get beat down turn the tables and hit there finishers to send the crowd home happy, setting up the Monday Raw where they will announce that it will be Rock and Cena Vs Batista and Lesnar.

[big dog cowboy]

Bo_T0l3inf4

[BraveHeartFan]

The big match for Mania 29 wouldn't shock me at all if it was Austin vs. Punk.

They've both been tweeting about it and just last week, or earlier this week, Punk said something about facing Austin at 29 and Austin responded that if the stars aligned right he'd be in New York with a whole can of whip *** for Punk.

Something to that effect.

So I wouldn't be shocked, in the least, if that's what winds up happening.

[dargonking999]

I think Goldberg makes an appearance and smashes on Cody Rhodes, and gets going with him.

[BoysFan4ever]

I would not put a guy in the biggest match of the year who has the physical issues Austin has. So basically they would have him do nothing for a whole year. Maybe come out & stun Miz or somebody a few times a year without having a hand laid on him of course. At the very least they do know Rock can still wrestle. I get the appeal the guy has but he could never hang with Punk in a match. No way.

[BraveHeartFan]

I think Goldberg makes an appearance and smashes on Cody Rhodes, and gets going with him.


Hmmm...interesting but...why? I'm just curious why you'd think that or if you're just throwing something out there.

[dargonking999]

Hmmm...interesting but...why? I'm just curious why you'd think that or if you're just throwing something out there.

Because I remember (I think) when he was feuding with Booker and Dusty came into the picture he not only dogged on Booker, Dusty, but Goldberg too.

[Romo 2 Austin]

Hmmm...interesting but...why? I'm just curious why you'd think that or if you're just throwing something out there.

Bringing in Goldberg would just be a waste. No one would care outside of former wrestling fans. No mainstream attention at all.

[BraveHeartFan]

Bringing in Goldberg would just be a waste. No one would care outside of former wrestling fans. No mainstream attention at all.


Personally I couldn't care less about people's mainstream attention or attractions. I'd rather they stick with the big time names for wrestling with main stream appeal like Rock and Cena.


I don't care about adding Brock cause it might bring in a few UFC fans. There are plenty of big matches by big names in wrestling that would draw more than enough.

Punk vs. Austin would be HUGE.

[CM Duck]

This is my predictions for Mania all the way to Mania29:

Taker will win, and if this isn't his last match, next years Mania will be.

The Punk/Jericho storyline leads me to believe this will set up Punk to turn heel and go back to his "straightedge" character. Therefore making him the perfect foe for Austin and lead up to Mania29. I have read "reports" that WWE wants to announce the "main event" for Mania29 very soon, as they did last year with Rock/Cena. Austin/Punk is my guess. I can already see it. Austin comes out, stuns...idk let's say Lauranitis, starts chuggin brewskies. Then Punk comes out to confront him. Saying stuff like "You think you can just come out here whenever you want and do what you want?...you remind me of my Father, an alcoholic-bully...and I hated my Father..." And that will get things rolling to Mania29. The promos(there would be at least 9 months worth) would be epic, the one backstage back&forth he had with Punk at that one RAW was short, but very good. And Austin has said he has one more good match left in him. And that he will never get back in the ring unless he knew he could give a good performance.

And for The Rock, its been reported he has a very very busy movie schedule this year. So I doubt he does much this year after Sunday.

Lesnar...idk about this. He left a bad taste in a lot of people's mouths the way he left WWE. Which is probably the reason Taker doesn't like him on a personal level. But, McMahon isn't stupid. He knows he can make a lot of $$$ if he came back, same with Goldberg or Batista.

But I hope if they do have somebody coming back and plan on saving it for the following RAW....please dont show an advtervisment for it during Mania!!! PLEASE!!! They blew it when they did that for Goldberg when he showed up back in the day. If they woulda let it be a surprise, it would have come out a lot better IMO.

[Romo 2 Austin]

Personally I couldn't care less about people's mainstream attention or attractions. I'd rather they stick with the big time names for wrestling with main stream appeal like Rock and Cena.


I don't care about adding Brock cause it might bring in a few UFC fans. There are plenty of big matches by big names in wrestling that would draw more than enough.

Punk vs. Austin would be HUGE.
Brock would draw a heck of a lot more than a few UFC fans. They bring out Goldberg and I would just be like why, if Goldberg went to TNA that would be interesting. Who would Goldberg feud with in WWE that would be interesting? Goldberg-Sting, Goldberg-Hogan i'd like to see.

Lesnar could feud with Cena, Rock, Taker, Orton and draw tens of millions for the company. They know that. Goldberg would have a few alienated TNA fans and ex-WCW fans watch. He would not be a draw at all.

[big dog cowboy]

Bringing in Goldberg would just be a waste. No one would care outside of former wrestling fans. No mainstream attention at all.

I could not disagree with that move. He is all over TV and is very well known. I lost tract of how many TV shows I've seen him on recently.

[Romo 2 Austin]

I could not disagree with that move. He is all over TV and is very well known. I lost tract of how many TV shows I've seen him on recently.

I have not once seen him outside of mentions on PWinsider for what he has been doing in years. I think I saw him in a magazine once.

[Romo 2 Austin]

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I would kill for a Aries - Punk feud over the WWE title. Best possible feud in wrestling today.

[CM Duck]

Wrestling Observer reported last night that Lesnar has signed a one year deal with WWE and IS in Miami now.

Also reported they signed Fit Finley.

So my guess is one of them will be the replacement in Team Johnny...probably Lesnar. I just can't see McMahon allowing the "Main Event" they have been pushing for over 11 months to end with a run-in, even if its by Lesnar. But Now that I read Lesnar signed a one year deal, I see his stay ending with him losing to Taker at Mania29.

I haven't seen/read anything about Batista...

[BoysFan4ever]

Well now that it is confirmed that Brock is there it would seem they would have a run in for him in a match. Ugh. He'll be a big deal at WM.

[Romo 2 Austin]

Where there is smoke there is fire. Lesnars back with WWE. Dana White has announced Brock is free to return to WWE if he desires, so the UFC end is cleared up.


@CM Duck. If they wasted Brock Lesnar in that joke of a match my brain would explode. He will either debut in the HBK-HHH match or the Rock-Cena match.


Batista ran a triathlon down in Miami today. With the odds of Brock returning looking like they are nearly 100% I doubt we will see Batista back aswell.

[BoysFan4ever]

Unless he's in the cage or under the ring he won't be involved in that match. I guess he could climb up the side. I hate thinking about him being back period.

[Romo 2 Austin]

Unless he's in the cage or under the ring he won't be involved in that match. I guess he could climb up the side. I hate thinking about him being back period.


Easily can just walk down after the match and have a standoff with Undertaker, but I have difficulty believing they will have him re debut and it not being the closing moment of the show. I think after Rock-Cena ends we see him come out and hit both with the F5 and then it goes off with Lesnar standing dominant in the ring. I am a thousand times more excited to see Lesnar than anything else tonight.

[cowboys#1]

thanks for ruining it. internet rumors/news have killed wrestling.

no wow moments anymore.


they need to keep better secrets on storylines and signings releases.

[BoysFan4ever]

Easily can just walk down after the match and have a standoff with Undertaker, but I have difficulty believing they will have him re debut and it not being the closing moment of the show. I think after Rock-Cena ends we see him come out and hit both with the F5 and then it goes off with Lesnar standing dominant in the ring. I am a thousand times more excited to see Lesnar than anything else tonight.

I remember when Brock left before. He had worn out his welcome and the fans were glad to see him go.

[BoysFan4ever]

thanks for ruining it. internet rumors/news have killed wrestling.

no wow moments anymore.


they need to keep better secrets on storylines and signings releases.

I agree.

[CM Duck]

thanks for ruining it. internet rumors/news have killed wrestling.

no wow moments anymore.


they need to keep better secrets on storylines and signings releases.

Dont have to read this thread, so basically you ruined it for yourself, lol.

But I understand what your saying.

At the same time that's saying football is being ruined since espn, nfl network, twitter, etc came along and give us fans quick rumors/reports that we could never get before. Or that CZ is ruining all things "Cowboys" because some of our members have great sources and let us in on the info they have got.

But, since we are all talking about reports/rumors/predictions here's is one for you guys....

At Mania29 it will really be TAKER vs....












THE MAN CALLED STING!!!(his signing a new deal with TNA is just a storyline, his deal expires at the end of 2012...)

[Ren]

Lesnar had man boobs in his fight with Overeem a few months back wonder what kind of shape he's inn now. There's something seriously wrong with the guy health wise that prevents him for training so you have to question whether returning to the WWE is a good idea. Wrestling although fake takes a serious toll on the body

[Romo 2 Austin]

thanks for ruining it. internet rumors/news have killed wrestling.

no wow moments anymore.


they need to keep better secrets on storylines and signings releases.

I honestly feel the same. I wish I didn't know about tonights suprise.

[CATCH17]

stream links?

[dargonking999]

After a rocky first hour

HHH VS Taker just re-defined entertainment. 20-0

[Phoenix]

stream links?


fromsportcom.com

Wow, so enjoying this :)

[BoysFan4ever]

That match was off the hook! Taker & HHH showing everybody how it's done. Standing O For those two!

[Phoenix]

That match was off the hook! Taker & HHH showing everybody how it's done. Standing O For those two!


That was an AWESOME match! And it went for what? 50 minutes? Or so? And HBK called it really well, except for that one Sweet Chin Music to Taker that didn't quite work out....

I love this free show :)

[Romo 2 Austin]

Undertaker hhh was amazing. HBKs performance as ref really made the match.

[dargonking999]

Undertaker hhh was amazing. HBKs performance as ref really made the match.

No it didn't

[Phoenix]

Bad timing twice tonight for the 3-count. To my eye, the first two matches both had the ref counting to three successfully but the match continuing. I think they're just getting lazy or something on the scripts :)

[Romo 2 Austin]

No it didn't

Oh yes it did

[Hoofbite]

No it didn't

:lmao2:

They could have a cardboard cutout of HBK in the corner of the ring and he'd still find a way to make the match all about HBK.

[Phoenix]

I wish Jericho's electric jacket would electrocute him :D

[Romo 2 Austin]

:lmao2:

They could have a cardboard cutout of HBK in the corner of the ring and he'd still find a way to make the match all about HBK.

I spent all 45 minutes cheering HBK. So that is a fair assesement. HBK>all.

[dargonking999]

I spent all 45 minutes cheering HBK. So that is a fair assesement. HBK>all.

No your just a fanboy who thinks his opinions are facts.

[Phoenix]

over 78,000 people there.

Wow.

CM Punk and Jericho. Let's get it on!

[Romo 2 Austin]

No your just a fanboy who thinks his opinions are facts.

When it comes to HBK they are fact

[BoysFan4ever]

Those 2 guys were awesome. Classic stuff right there. Thank God they didn't bring Brock out there to ruin that.

[dargonking999]

When it comes to HBK they are fact

When it comes to you its bull

[Romo 2 Austin]

When it comes to you its bull

Thank you for your wonderful insight.

[Phoenix]

Wow, the microphones are so screwed up right now during this match.

[BoysFan4ever]

I spent all 45 minutes cheering HBK. So that is a fair assesement. HBK>all.

Huh? You honestly think Shawn was the bright spot in that match?

[dargonking999]

Thank you for your wonderful insight.

you're welcome

[Phoenix]

Wow.


TWO Walls of Jericho.

TWO Lionsaults.

[Phoenix]

And now a Codebreaker!

How does CM Punk keep going?

[Phoenix]

Wow, great match! I think CM Punk & Jericho set a world record for blocks & counters :)

LOVING Wrestlemania so far! :)

[SDogo]

Trying to find a stream for my son, saw the earlier one but none of those seem worth a crap. Any other ones?

[Phoenix]

And here we go! Cena vs Rock.

[Phoenix]

Trying to find a stream for my son, saw the earlier one but none of those seem worth a crap. Any other ones?


Free streams don't generally bring quality. Want quality? Then PAY FOR it.

Me? I'll save the money.

Wow. Some people want their cake and to eat it too.

[Phoenix]

What's up with this nauseating crap that they think simulates "music" before the rest of the show? Who in the HELL are these no-talents? I have no idea. I know that it sucks though.

[SDogo]

Free streams don't generally bring quality. Want quality? Then PAY FOR it.

Me? I'll save the money.

Wow. Some people want their cake and to eat it too.

crap, back in the day when I was a UFC nut I could get HD quality feeds, hook it up to my TV and enjoy.

If I want to pay $60 for fake I would buy a ticket to a Brittany Spears concert and watch her lip sync.

Just trying to make my kid happy.

Sorry to bug you during this intense moment of planned activity.

[Phoenix]

Finally! The ROCK HAS COME BACK...to...oh wait, he always is in Miami. Nevermind.

[Phoenix]

crap, back in the day when I was a UFC nut I could get HD quality feeds, hook it up to my TV and enjoy.

If I want to pay $60 for fake I would buy a ticket to a Brittany Spears concert and watch her lip sync.

Just trying to make my kid happy.

Sorry to bug you during this intense moment of planned activity.


Wrestlemania? This is the ONE PPV you should just keep quiet about getting for free at ANY quality. IMHO.

[SDogo]

Wrestlemania? This is the ONE PPV you should just keep quiet about getting for free at ANY quality. IMHO.

We will agree to disagree. Unless Kelly Kelly comes on I dont imagine I will be paying much attention. Not my cup of tea.

[Phoenix]

Hey, I was just trying to help everyone to watch for free, like I do :)

I was very surprised to see Rocky win straight up tonight. Not sure what that means going forward.

What happened to the supposed match intervention by...oh...let's see...Batista?...Goldberg?...who was that MMA guy again...? I forget.

[Romo 2 Austin]

Hey, I was just trying to help everyone to watch for free, like I do :)

I was very surprised to see Rocky win straight up tonight. Not sure what that means going forward.

What happened to the supposed match intervention by...oh...let's see...Batista?...Goldberg?...who was that MMA guy again...? I forget.
Disappointed by the lack of Lesnar. Probably will see him tomorrow night.

[BoysFan4ever]

Wow Rock won clean. That surprised me. Maybe that will take Cena to a level where he actually gets some personality on there and off the aw shucks persona. Taker/HHH owned this night though. That was classic. I read all this crap about HHH is jealous of this guy or that one but the guy delivers in the ring. Taker is the best big man ever.

[zrinkill]

Wrestlemania was pretty good tonight ......

I wonder when people will stop taking internet dirt sheets as gospel.

[BraveHeartFan]

Brock would draw a heck of a lot more than a few UFC fans. They bring out Goldberg and I would just be like why, if Goldberg went to TNA that would be interesting. Who would Goldberg feud with in WWE that would be interesting? Goldberg-Sting, Goldberg-Hogan i'd like to see.

Lesnar could feud with Cena, Rock, Taker, Orton and draw tens of millions for the company. They know that. Goldberg would have a few alienated TNA fans and ex-WCW fans watch. He would not be a draw at all.

Apparently they didn't know it enough to have him debut tonight like you said. I told you that he wasn't going to debut in some run in on Rock and Cena.

I suppose he could come out to get in Cena's face tomorrow night to start something with him because if he signed a 1 year deal it wouldn't make sense to do something with Rock who won't be back again for nearly a year.


Easily can just walk down after the match and have a standoff with Undertaker, but I have difficulty believing they will have him re debut and it not being the closing moment of the show. I think after Rock-Cena ends we see him come out and hit both with the F5 and then it goes off with Lesnar standing dominant in the ring. I am a thousand times more excited to see Lesnar than anything else tonight.

Guess you left unhappy since he wasn't even on the show.


I honestly feel the same. I wish I didn't know about tonights suprise.

And what suprise would that be? The surprise that your internet rumor site was once again? This shouldn't be a surprise to you any longer.


Wrestlemania was pretty good tonight ......

I wonder when people will stop taking internet dirt sheets as gospel.

Apparently never because they get a couple stories right once in a while so everything they say has to be gospel after that.

Show was pretty good...till the end.

I love The Rock. Always have. But him winning was absolutely stupid and pointless.

Why in the hell should the guy whose going to wrestle 1, maybe if you're lucky 2, times a year win the match over your guy whose there every week?

Dumb ending.

[BraveHeartFan]

Wrestlemania was pretty good tonight ......

I wonder when people will stop taking internet dirt sheets as gospel.


Oh and probably about the same time that those people will admit when they're wrong instead of trying to come up with some silly way to justify how they were actually right about what they were completely wrong about.

[Romo 2 Austin]

Apparently they didn't know it enough to have him debut tonight like you said. I told you that he wasn't going to debut in some run in on Rock and Cena.

I suppose he could come out to get in Cena's face tomorrow night to start something with him because if he signed a 1 year deal it wouldn't make sense to do something with Rock who won't be back again for nearly a year.




Guess you left unhappy since he wasn't even on the show.




And what suprise would that be? The surprise that your internet rumor site was once again? This shouldn't be a surprise to you any longer.




Apparently never because they get a couple stories right once in a while so everything they say has to be gospel after that.

Show was pretty good...till the end.

I love The Rock. Always have. But him winning was absolutely stupid and pointless.

Why in the hell should the guy whose going to wrestle 1, maybe if you're lucky 2, times a year win the match over your guy whose there every week?

Dumb ending.

PWInsider didnt break the story. Wrestlingobserver did.

[BoysFan4ever]

I must be missing something regarding the discussion about wrestling sites. I look at a few here & there & they all basically have the same exact stories with very little variation.

[zrinkill]

The younger guys should be ashamed ......... two guys that can barely walk, HHH and Undertaker, stole the show.

[Hoofbite]

The younger guys should be ashamed ......... two guys that can barely walk, HHH and Undertaker, stole the show.

Only one I even want to see.

I hear HBK did a wonderful job standing around in a stripped shirt though.

[Ren]

The first match was really funny. I was looking forward to that as it had the potential to be one of the better matches so surprised they ended that the way they did. They could have had that ending to the Rhodes Big show snooze fest rather then 2 guys who can actually put on a good match, but it was really funny so who cares.

Surprised they gave The Rock a clean win, it doesn't make a whole lot of sense. For a year leading up to this i was 100% sure he was only there to build up super Cena even more. Why have the guy who's not even going to be around beat your top guy?

HHH taker was the best match by far, amazing how you know who is going to win and yet they make it exciting anyways, that's greatness

[Yeagermeister]

Only one I even want to see.

I hear HBK did a wonderful job standing around in a stripped shirt though.

According to one person around here that was the highlight of the whole PPV

[BraveHeartFan]

PWInsider didnt break the story. Wrestlingobserver did.

and this means what?

You traded in one internet rumor site for another?

The sooner you stop taking these internet sites as gospel the better off you'll be.

The point is it doesn't matter which one you took as the truth there was never any shot of Lesnar being involved in Rock vs. Cena last night.



The younger guys should be ashamed ......... two guys that can barely walk, HHH and Undertaker, stole the show.


Eh...maybe...maybe not.

It's two of the best performers ever in a match that each year for the last 4 years has been very very difficult to top.

1 because of whose in it and 2 just because of the mystic of the entire thing.

I mean Punk and Jericho have nothing to be ashamed about. They put on a dang fine match up. It's just tough to put on a show bigger than Takers streak at WM.


Only one I even want to see.

I hear HBK did a wonderful job standing around in a stripped shirt though.

Actually I thought he did a fantastic job of selling the importance of the match up and just how stressful it was to know what they would have to do to one another to win it.

I didn't think he was the highlight of the match or anything but I thought he added a very nice background of emotion to the importance and emotion of the match up.



The first match was really funny. I was looking forward to that as it had the potential to be one of the better matches so surprised they ended that the way they did. They could have had that ending to the Rhodes Big show snooze fest rather then 2 guys who can actually put on a good match, but it was really funny so who cares.

Surprised they gave The Rock a clean win, it doesn't make a whole lot of sense. For a year leading up to this i was 100% sure he was only there to build up super Cena even more. Why have the guy who's not even going to be around beat your top guy?

HHH taker was the best match by far, amazing how you know who is going to win and yet they make it exciting anyways, that's greatness

Yes it is. That is how you seperate the truly great from the guys who are just real good.

I was very surprised, and disappointed, that they actually let The Rock win last night. It just doesn't make sense to me, on any level, for him to have beaten Cena.

I mean...whoopie. The Rock won. Yay. Now we'll see him again sometime around Mania next year. Awesome.

Doesn't really do much for me. I guess he could be on RAW tonight but if he's on RAW tonight and it's just to set up another year long crap with Cena for next year....ugh.....right now that's my biggest worry. That they're just going to do Rock vs. Cena II next year.


Just doesn't make sense unless The Rock was coming out tonight to inform the world that he was coming back to wrestling full time, which we all know isn't going to be happening.


Just dumb booking, IMO.

[Romo 2 Austin]

and this means what?

You traded in one internet rumor site for another?

The sooner you stop taking these internet sites as gospel the better off you'll be.

The point is it doesn't matter which one you took as the truth there was never any shot of Lesnar being involved in Rock vs. Cena last night.






Eh...maybe...maybe not.

It's two of the best performers ever in a match that each year for the last 4 years has been very very difficult to top.

1 because of whose in it and 2 just because of the mystic of the entire thing.

I mean Punk and Jericho have nothing to be ashamed about. They put on a dang fine match up. It's just tough to put on a show bigger than Takers streak at WM.




Actually I thought he did a fantastic job of selling the importance of the match up and just how stressful it was to know what they would have to do to one another to win it.

I didn't think he was the highlight of the match or anything but I thought he added a very nice background of emotion to the importance and emotion of the match up.





Yes it is. That is how you seperate the truly great from the guys who are just real good.

I was very surprised, and disappointed, that they actually let The Rock win last night. It just doesn't make sense to me, on any level, for him to have beaten Cena.

I mean...whoopie. The Rock won. Yay. Now we'll see him again sometime around Mania next year. Awesome.

Doesn't really do much for me. I guess he could be on RAW tonight but if he's on RAW tonight and it's just to set up another year long crap with Cena for next year....ugh.....right now that's my biggest worry. That they're just going to do Rock vs. Cena II next year.


Just doesn't make sense unless The Rock was coming out tonight to inform the world that he was coming back to wrestling full time, which we all know isn't going to be happening.


Just dumb booking, IMO.


No it means I don't take it for gospel. PWInsider rarely reports inaccurate stories, I can't vouch for wrestlingobserver. They probably decided at the last minute they didn't want to end Wrestlemania with an interference.

[BraveHeartFan]

No it means I don't take it for gospel. PWInsider rarely reports inaccurate stories, I can't vouch for wrestlingobserver. They probably decided at the last minute they didn't want to end Wrestlemania with an interference.

They do?

Interesting.

Cause I don't recall any you've claimed here that they've gotten right yet.

But enough about your internet dirt sheets that are useless unless they're reporting a blatantly obvious thing that pretty much the whole world already knows about....



What did you think of the show outside of being disappointed by Brock Lesnar not showing up?

[zrinkill]

No it means I don't take it for gospel. ......................They probably decided at the last minute they didn't want to end Wrestlemania with an interference.

:lmao:

[Romo 2 Austin]

They do?

Interesting.

Cause I don't recall any you've claimed here that they've gotten right yet.

But enough about your internet dirt sheets that are useless unless they're reporting a blatantly obvious thing that pretty much the whole world already knows about....



What did you think of the show outside of being disappointed by Brock Lesnar not showing up?
Remove the first hour which was a big let down and it was the best mania in years. The dumb raw v sd match was bad too. They need to go ahead and merge the world and wwe titles, the whc opening mania is a joke.


HHH-Taker was so good it was a good show based on its merit alone, Jericho-Punk delievered and Rock-Cena had great crowd interaction.

[BoysFan4ever]

I hope Cena turns heel. I th ink Rock winning was just something unexpected. Most thought Johnny Do Good would win but he didn't. Now he can switch to something different out of losing and it'll be ok. It won't affect the sale of those green shirts. Rock is just like Taker. He can show up when he wants, to do what he wants and fans are gonna love it because when he's not there it's just not as good. So you love the small doses of these guys coming back here and there because it's more entertaining. Shawn is the same. You want to see those guys.

[BraveHeartFan]

Remove the first hour which was a big let down and it was the best mania in years. The dumb raw v sd match was bad too. They need to go ahead and merge the world and wwe titles, the whc opening mania is a joke.


HHH-Taker was so good it was a good show based on its merit alone, Jericho-Punk delievered and Rock-Cena had great crowd interaction.


Overall there I pretty much agree.

I as pretty surprised by the WHC opening the show and then even more surprised that they had Bryan lose it in like 15 seconds.

I feel bad for both of those guys, especially Sheamus, whose worked hard to get to be on Mania only to get to be in a match that took 15 seconds. Dang shame.


The RAW vs. SD for the GM thing went pretty much how I expected. Just a bunch of silly spots, chaos, and nothing good. Pure filler. I hate how they're buring Ryder though. Just a shame that they're wasting this guy.

I actually rather enjoyed the Big Show vs. Rhodes and Kane vs. Orton matches. The Kane vs. Orton wasn't quite as good as I thought it was going to be but I still felt it was pretty good and I was actually pleasantly surprised to see them give Kane a clean W over Orton.

I was definately happy to see Big Show finally get a big win at WM. He definately deserved it.


All and all the only head scratchers to me in the whole show were booking the WHC to open the show, and to send so quickly, and Rock going over Cena.

[BraveHeartFan]

I hope Cena turns heel. I th ink Rock winning was just something unexpected. Most thought Johnny Do Good would win but he didn't. Now he can switch to something different out of losing and it'll be ok. It won't affect the sale of those green shirts. Rock is just like Taker. He can show up when he wants, to do what he wants and fans are gonna love it because when he's not there it's just not as good. So you love the small doses of these guys coming back here and there because it's more entertaining. Shawn is the same. You want to see those guys.


Yes I want to see them.


But you'll notice a difference when some people come back and what they did with Rock.

HBK in his final two Mania's went out to put over Taker and his Streak. He went out putting someone else over who would be there more than him.


When Foley returns from time to time it's always been to put someone over. You don't see Foley coming back for WM matches to beat guys who are there all the time. He did a great job of putting Orton and Edge over at different PPVs (Edge was at Mania in fact) on some of his returns.


Rock should have been there to put Cena over. There is no way around that. Rock will be on RAW tonight probably and then you won't see a thing from him for probably 8 or 9 months.


Rock is in that same place that Foley, HBK, Stone Cold, and others are to where he doesn't need to win matches anymore for people to still want to see them return and be part of shows.


I'm right there with you on wanting to see Cena turn heel because I think it would be the best thing for him at this point. But either way there is just no reason to put the Rock over him last night.

[BoysFan4ever]

rock did put Cena over. For the first time in a long time Cena actually cut some nice promos during the build up. He's been harping on he "had" to win.it meant everything to him. He works harder, he's been there longer and on and on.


if John had won it would have just been back to the same old crap. Now there is an opportunity for them to change his gimmick even if only a little bit.

Rock will be there tonight. We'll see what happens.

[Romo 2 Austin]

Overall there I pretty much agree.

I as pretty surprised by the WHC opening the show and then even more surprised that they had Bryan lose it in like 15 seconds.

I feel bad for both of those guys, especially Sheamus, whose worked hard to get to be on Mania only to get to be in a match that took 15 seconds. Dang shame.


The RAW vs. SD for the GM thing went pretty much how I expected. Just a bunch of silly spots, chaos, and nothing good. Pure filler. I hate how they're buring Ryder though. Just a shame that they're wasting this guy.

I actually rather enjoyed the Big Show vs. Rhodes and Kane vs. Orton matches. The Kane vs. Orton wasn't quite as good as I thought it was going to be but I still felt it was pretty good and I was actually pleasantly surprised to see them give Kane a clean W over Orton.

I was definately happy to see Big Show finally get a big win at WM. He definately deserved it.


All and all the only head scratchers to me in the whole show were booking the WHC to open the show, and to send so quickly, and Rock going over Cena.

Show vs Rhodes was much better than I expected it to be. Kane vs Orton I didn't have much expectations for as I have never been big on Kane and it certainly did not make me a believer. Orton deserves a bigger role at Mania next year although I still think they are waiting to WM30 to merge the titles in a Orton-Cena clash, it just makes sense at this point.

[dargonking999]

The rock win was simply a method to get John cena to improve his character. Not turn heel but act like when he's in a match, that he wants to win and not like a giant goof ball

[cowboys#1]

I hope Cena turns heel. I th ink Rock winning was just something unexpected. Most thought Johnny Do Good would win but he didn't. Now he can switch to something different out of losing and it'll be ok. It won't affect the sale of those green shirts. Rock is just like Taker. He can show up when he wants, to do what he wants and fans are gonna love it because when he's not there it's just not as good. So you love the small doses of these guys coming back here and there because it's more entertaining. Shawn is the same. You want to see those guys.
no way. he is the babyface off the wwe right now. ala hulk hogan in the 80's

even though the old school (attitude era) fans hate him the younger target audience of the wwe love him.

[cowboys#1]

Yes I want to see them.


But you'll notice a difference when some people come back and what they did with Rock.

HBK in his final two Mania's went out to put over Taker and his Streak. He went out putting someone else over who would be there more than him.


When Foley returns from time to time it's always been to put someone over. You don't see Foley coming back for WM matches to beat guys who are there all the time. He did a great job of putting Orton and Edge over at different PPVs (Edge was at Mania in fact) on some of his returns.


Rock should have been there to put Cena over. There is no way around that. Rock will be on RAW tonight probably and then you won't see a thing from him for probably 8 or 9 months.


Rock is in that same place that Foley, HBK, Stone Cold, and others are to where he doesn't need to win matches anymore for people to still want to see them return and be part of shows.


I'm right there with you on wanting to see Cena turn heel because I think it would be the best thing for him at this point. But either way there is just no reason to put the Rock over him last night.
zach ryder is rising. wait until he becomes the babyface/ then cena can turn heel.

if cena turnd heel. who is the ultimate face right now?
no one really. got to time it right. shock the world like bash at the beach '96

[Austin 3-16]

The WWE owed The Rock that one. He "lost" the WWE title twice at Wrestlemania to his greatest rival Stone Cold Steve Austin.

[Romo 2 Austin]

The WWE owed The Rock that one. He "lost" the WWE title twice at Wrestlemania to his greatest rival Stone Cold Steve Austin.

Rock shouldn't have gone over, I don't think. We will see tonight. I think they will announce Rock v. Cena II for Summerslam.

[Biggems]

I was disappointed that there was no money in the bank match. the Brodus segment was lame. The women's match was lame...wish Trish could have been there instead.

Teddy vs John had some nice moments, could have been a little better, but all in all, what I expected. I can't believe the Miz is undefeated. I wonder if they are going to keep him that way for a while.

I missed the first match, my feed messed up....but I am glad Shaemus beat Bryan.

I was glad to see the Big Show win and not be made to look like a big goof, as in past Wrestlemanias.

It was great to see Orton lose, not because I was rooting against him, but because I expected him to win....I like when the WWE gives me a twist at the end of the match that I wasn't expecting.

I knew Taker would win, and the match was awesome. All 5 matches involving those 3 have been very good, EPIC even.

Punk/Jericho was great. I didn't think they would use a submission to end it....nice surprise.

The Rock/Cena was awesome. I didn't know who would win.....Rock was at home and Cena lost last year and is the face of the company.....still an all around great match and I was very much entertained.


One quick question, who won the Tag Title Dark Match before the PPV?

[RoyTheHammer]

What happened to those young talents that everyone was screaming were so good last year?

Miz, Del Rio, all the other jokes?

:)

[Biggems]

What happened to those young talents that everyone was screaming were so good last year?

Miz, Del Rio, all the other jokes?

:)

Miz won the match he was in......he is a very good young talent. I believe Del Rio is still recovering from injury.

[Romo 2 Austin]

What happened to those young talents that everyone was screaming were so good last year?

Miz, Del Rio, all the other jokes?

:)

Del Rio and talent should not be in the same sentance.

[BoysFan4ever]

Primo & partner are still champs. I forget the other guys name. Sorry.

[BoysFan4ever]

Miz won the match he was in......he is a very good young talent. I believe Del Rio is still recovering from injury.

I like Miz. Fun heel & he is a good wrestler. I like Del Rio as well.

[zrinkill]

What happened to those young talents that everyone was screaming were so good last year?

Miz, Del Rio, all the other jokes?

:)

Del rio is still injured and Miz won his match so I do not know what you are trying to say

[BraveHeartFan]

Show vs Rhodes was much better than I expected it to be. Kane vs Orton I didn't have much expectations for as I have never been big on Kane and it certainly did not make me a believer. Orton deserves a bigger role at Mania next year although I still think they are waiting to WM30 to merge the titles in a Orton-Cena clash, it just makes sense at this point.


I could see that with Orton and Cena. Wouldn't be a bad idea at all for 30.


Rock shouldn't have gone over, I don't think. We will see tonight. I think they will announce Rock v. Cena II for Summerslam.

That would be better than if they come out tonight and make another challenge for next year at WM.

If they do this for a year again I think I'll be sick.


What happened to those young talents that everyone was screaming were so good last year?

Miz, Del Rio, all the other jokes?

:)


Miz won the match for Team Johnny last night so he won a pretty important match, storyline wise, to give John the GM role on both RAW and Smackdown.


Del Rio is still injuried so I'm not sure how anyone is to hold that against him.

[Ren]

What happened to those young talents that everyone was screaming were so good last year?

Miz, Del Rio, all the other jokes?

:)

Miz was in the tag match Del Rio has been out with an injury for ages

Edit: beaten to it twice that might teach me to read replies before i reply but probably not

[zrinkill]

Del Rio may be back tonight ...... they did not have time to get something going for Wrestlemania.

[Romo 2 Austin]

Lord Tensai aka A-Train will probably debut tonight in addition to the return most boring character on television Del Joke, I will be skipping the segment that features his return for sure!

[zrinkill]

I will be skipping the segment that features his return for sure!

So? You said you were done with the WWE months ago ...... who cares?

[Biggems]

Primo & partner are still champs. I forget the other guys name. Sorry.
Primo and Epico

[Biggems]

Del Rio and talent should not be in the same sentance.


What is your problem with Del Rio. He is a very good heel character. He has also shown to be a pretty good wrestler. I love his potential as a major heel for years to come. I do not know if he has the versatility to go both ways like HBK, HHH, Stone Cold, and the Rock.....but as a heel, he is definitely an up and comer.

The one that bores the hell out of me is Orton. He always has. Don't get me wrong, he is a good wrestler and versatile as a face/heel, but I just don't care for him. His matches tend to have that "Whatever" factor for me.

[CM Duck]

yeah...how stupid we are for reading and believing Lesnar would come back either @ Mania or on RAW the night after...:rolleyes:

[zrinkill]

yeah...how stupid we are for reading and believing Lesnar would come back either @ Mania or on RAW the night after...:rolleyes:

Nobody said he would not return at Raw ..... they said he would not interfere between Rock and Cena.

[Romo 2 Austin]

Nobody said he would not return at Raw ..... they said he would not interfere between Rock and Cena.

http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4485835&postcount=40

[zrinkill]

http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4485835&postcount=40

Yes ..... everyone regrets asking you anything.

[Romo 2 Austin]

Yes ..... everyone regrets asking you anything.

Yeah ok, we all know what you meant. Back to ignoring you.

[zrinkill]

Yeah ok, we all know what you meant. Back to ignoring you.

Yes ..... everyone who has ever interacted with you knows what I meant.

[BoysFan4ever]

Yes ..... everyone who has ever interacted with you knows what I meant.

I don't know what you meant but that's ok. I get the feeling I am better off being clueless.

[BraveHeartFan]

Yeah ok, we all know what you meant. Back to ignoring you.

Sorry but I'm not going to give you credit for anything more than a Lesnar return to the WWE. You were still wrong to claim that he would return at Mania and you were wrong in your claim he would do so in the Rock vs Cena match to set up Rock vs. Brock.


Take a bow for the part you got right but be strong enough to admit that you were not correct in the rest.

[Biggems]

I have an inside scoop.

Very soon, a former WWE superstar will return and start a feud with a current WWE superstar......I dare anyone to challenge me on this.....I got it from a refutable source online.....cause prowrestling websites are full of juicy, truthful nuggets.....

[Biggems]

the only negative from the Cena/Rock match was the commentary......the announcers claiming Cena has the strength and power edge....and Cena would overpower the Rock.....

I know Cena is strong, one of the strongest in the business....but the Rock is strong as well. IMO, their strength is a wash. I thought it was poor preparation by the announce team.....

Instead, they should have used the conditioning angle....Cena was in wrestling condition, while the Rock would suffer from ring rust and that is why he looked so winded out there.

They botched it though.......but other than that aspect of the match, It was a great match.




Speaking of announcers....I miss Solie, Gorilla, Heenan, Ventura.....I miss when they actually used to call the match and tell you what was going on in the match (background info on the wrestlers, in-ring maneuvers, etc.) instead of all the conversational mindless drivel that they do now. King and Cole are horrible. Ross was pretty good, but even he needs to be put out to pasture.

[zrinkill]

Ross was pretty good, but even he needs to be put out to pasture.

I could not disagree more.

[BoysFan4ever]

I read Taker personally requested JR do the commentary on their match but I read it on the net so not sure if that was planned long ago or he really did request it. He was great though.

[Phoenix]

I read Taker personally requested JR do the commentary on their match but I read it on the net so not sure if that was planned long ago or he really did request it. He was great though.


JR may have tweeted about it, not sure.

BTW, his beef jerky that he sells really IS pretty darn good I think!

[Phoenix]

Ah, here we go:


http://www.gerweck.net/2012/04/03/jim-ross-requested-to-call-hiac-match-at-wrestlemania/


By the time Jim Ross left his home to go to Florida, he thought he wouldn’t be a part of WrestleMania except for watching it like a fan. What he didn’t know was that the Undertaker, Triple H, and Shawn Michaels were pressuring the powers that be to have him call the “end of an era” Hell in a Cell match. And when three of the most successful and powerful Superstars all want it, you bet your *** it’s going to be granted. “WWE upper mgmt made it happen. It was confirmed late Friday night,” Jim Ross wrote on Twitter, revealing that it was all three of them who requested his presence ringside and to do play-by-playof the match.

[BoysFan4ever]

Good info. I wish JR was there all the time. That match was epic.

[Romo 2 Austin]

I stumbled upon a tweet from ESPN reporter Guy Ramsey and sent it into PWInsider. They just put it up on the site -

Guy Ramsey is reporting that WrestleMania did 1.9m buys.


Gus Ramsey of ESPN wrote the following in his Twitter:
"accidentally deleted my earlier tweet. Rock and Brock each sign 1 year deals. WM28 did 1.9M buys. WWE was targeting 1.5M"

If that ends up being the case, WWE certainly has a lot to be happy about.
http://pwinsider.com/article/67367/espn-reporter-claims-wrestlemania-did-19-million-buys.html?p=1

[big dog cowboy]

Guy Ramsey is reporting that WrestleMania did 1.9m buys.

:jackpot:

[Romo 2 Austin]

:jackpot:

The former highest buyrate for WWE prior to this? 1.25M at WM23. Lots of people are doubting the 1.9M report if it is true that is insane.