View Full Version : Time travel, impossible?
Afigueroa22
03-27-2012, 07:18 PM
Time travel is in fact impossible, except in Alaska. ;)
daschoo
03-27-2012, 07:20 PM
Look at the clock, I'm writing this at 01:20 on the 28th of March. Thats in your future. Thus time travel is real
Dallas
03-27-2012, 07:20 PM
Time travel is in fact impossible, except in Alaska. ;)
You have to BELIEVE !!!!!
X02WMNoHSm8
BrAinPaiNt
03-27-2012, 07:22 PM
Time travel is in fact impossible, except in Alaska. ;)
The Vulcan High Command used to think time travel was impossible...they learned they were wrong.
<nerds unite> :p:
Dallas
03-27-2012, 07:25 PM
The Vulcan High Command used to think time travel was impossible...they learned they were wrong.
<nerds unite> :p:
Mork calling Orson....come in Orson.
Mork: "If my knees knock any louder, I am going to look into my pants and see who's there."
Orson: "Have you been smoking your socks again, Mork?
http://manscreed.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/orson.jpg (http://manscreed.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/orson.jpg)
BrAinPaiNt
03-27-2012, 07:25 PM
Look at the clock, I'm writing this at 01:20 on the 28th of March. Thats in your future. Thus time travel is real
I traveled time before.
When I left South Korea and was headed to Oakland. Going through the different time zones where S.Korea was a day ahead on the calender and in hours. At one point during part of the trip it seemed like the sun was coming up for a few hours...just seemed to stay where it was.
Afigueroa22
03-27-2012, 07:26 PM
You have to BELIEVE !!!!!
If you often discuss this with your son then you are probably aware of the grandfather paradox, correct?
Dallas
03-27-2012, 07:27 PM
If you often discuss this with your son then you are probably aware of the grandfather paradox, correct?
No. :( Physics is not my ....
What is physics anyways? :laugh2:
BrAinPaiNt
03-27-2012, 07:31 PM
No. :( Physics is not my ....
What is physics anyways? :laugh2:
I think it is those people who ask you if you know someone whose name starts with the letter J or some other random letter. :p:
Afigueroa22
03-27-2012, 07:32 PM
No. :( Physics is not my ....
What is physics anyways? :laugh2:
Forgive me as I read your post in the previous thread. The grandfather paradox goes as follows: Suppose you travel back in time and killed your biological grandfather before he met your grandmother. As a result, you would have never been concieved in the first place to be able to travel back.
Afigueroa22
03-27-2012, 07:34 PM
I think it is those people who ask you if you know someone whose name starts with the letter J or some other random letter. :p:
If you are referring to me, my name is Aaron Figueroa. If you are not then I apologize. :)
Phoenix
03-27-2012, 07:35 PM
If time travel is so POSSIBLE, then SOMEbody come back in time and STOP me from finishing m...
BrAinPaiNt
03-27-2012, 07:38 PM
If you are referring to me, my name is Aaron Figueroa. If you are not then I apologize. :)
He pretended like he did not know what Physics were, I made a word play of sorts and acted like he meant psychics.
Lame joke I know.
daschoo
03-27-2012, 07:40 PM
Look at the clock, I'm writing this at 01:20 on the 28th of March. Thats in your future. Thus time travel is real
just to clarify, given the thread omitting it could have led to confusion which was not my intention, the year when i wrote that was 2012.
i'm writing this in 1314 though
BrAinPaiNt
03-27-2012, 07:42 PM
just to clarify, given the thread omitting it could have led to confusion which was not my intention, the year when i wrote that was 2012.
i'm writing this in 1314 though
Are you that guy named Connor MacLeod of the Clan MacLeod who was born in 1518 in the village of Glenfinnan on the shores of Loch Shiel?
Afigueroa22
03-27-2012, 07:43 PM
just to clarify, given the thread omitting it could have led to confusion which was not my intention, the year when i wrote that was 2012.
i'm writing this in 1314 though
Ok, so I have a few questions.
#1. Do we win the superbowl this year as I predict?
#2. Please tell me Obama does not get re-elected.
#3. Does congress send the Kardashians to the Gulag?
daschoo
03-27-2012, 07:48 PM
Ok, so I have a few questions.
#1. Do we win the superbowl this year as I predict?
#2. Please tell me Obama does not get re-elected.
#3. Does congress send the Kardashians to the Gulag?
In a rather surprising "swerve" Kim Kardashian is the head of a military coup and seizes the presidency of your country abolishing the sport of football meaning their is no superbowl.
daschoo
03-27-2012, 07:50 PM
Are you that guy named Connor MacLeod of the Clan MacLeod who was born in 1518 in the village of Glenfinnan on the shores of Loch Shiel?
Never been to Glenfinnan but I do enjoy Glenfiddich
http://www.thedrum.co.uk/uploads/drum_basic_article/88899/main_images/glenfiddich_0.jpg
Afigueroa22
03-27-2012, 07:51 PM
In a rather surprising "swerve" Kim Kardashian is the head of a military coup and seizes the presidency of your country abolishing the sport of football meaning their is no superbowl.
That's not the answer I was looking for. :(
CanadianCowboysFan
03-27-2012, 08:10 PM
Just think, if we could go back in time, we could ensure Napoleon beat Wellington at Waterloo, that the rebels win at Gettysburg and basically change the present.
ScipioCowboy
03-27-2012, 08:26 PM
Keep in mind that, even if time travel is possible, it doesn't necessarily mean you can change anything.
Consider the grandfather's paradox. If you went back in time for the purpose of killing your grandfather, you might discover that you're unable to do so...for whatever reason.
trickblue
03-27-2012, 09:02 PM
He pretended like he did not know what Physics were, I made a word play of sorts and acted like he meant psychics.
Lame joke I know.
You wrote the book on "lame" my friend... ;)
trickblue
03-27-2012, 09:04 PM
Never been to Glenfinnan but I do enjoy Glenfiddich
http://www.thedrum.co.uk/uploads/drum_basic_article/88899/main_images/glenfiddich_0.jpg (http://www.thedrum.co.uk/uploads/drum_basic_article/88899/main_images/glenfiddich_0.jpg)
Good stuff... but this is the TRUE liquid crack...
http://popsop.com/wp-content/uploads/laphroaig-25-year-old-single-malt-scotch-whisky.jpg
Love those Islay single malts...
daschoo
03-28-2012, 04:11 AM
Good stuff... but this is the TRUE liquid crack...
http://popsop.com/wp-content/uploads/laphroaig-25-year-old-single-malt-scotch-whisky.jpg
Love those Islay single malts...
Good choice, Laphroig is arguably my favourite. Lagavulin and Bunnahabhain also worth a mention. At the moment I've got a bottle of Bruichladdich Rocks which I'm enjoying despite it lacking the characteristic Islay smokiness.
SaltwaterServr
03-28-2012, 05:05 AM
You poor, poor misguided souls.
Liquid heaven distilled from the tears of angels who looked upon mankind and lamented that those they looked after in Heaven and Earth did not have a drink to remind them of things greater than themselves.
May I present to you:
http://www.landofwhisky.com/imageswhisky/catalogue/product_zoom_347.jpg
Sam I Am
03-28-2012, 07:50 AM
You poor, poor misguided souls.
Liquid heaven distilled from the tears of angels who looked upon mankind and lamented that those they looked after in Heaven and Earth did not have a drink to remind them of things greater than themselves.
May I present to you:
http://www.landofwhisky.com/imageswhisky/catalogue/product_zoom_347.jpg
I'm a McAllen fan, but I've never had the 30 year. I usually will buy the 12 year, and when the company throws a party they will buy 18 year shots. I would never spend the kind of money that 30 year costs on any bottle of whiskey.
Yeagermeister
03-28-2012, 07:55 AM
Are you that guy named Connor MacLeod of the Clan MacLeod who was born in 1518 in the village of Glenfinnan on the shores of Loch Shiel?
There can be only one!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yeagermeister
03-28-2012, 07:56 AM
Forgive me as I read your post in the previous thread. The grandfather paradox goes as follows: Suppose you travel back in time and killed your biological grandfather before he met your grandmother. As a result, you would have never been concieved in the first place to be able to travel back.
What if my grandmother met another man and got married and had my mother or father? Would I still not exist?
daschoo
03-28-2012, 07:57 AM
I'm a McAllen fan, but I've never had the 30 year. I usually will buy the 12 year, and when the company throws a party they will buy 18 year shots. I would never spend the kind of money that 30 year costs on any bottle of whiskey.
I got a bottle of 28 year old for my 30th (was distilled the same year I was born) that I'm waiting for a suitable excuse to crack open. If you have a look around you can find older whisky at a pretty good price, at least over here you can but it tends to be the smaller distilleries or independant bottlings which I'm not sure you'll get over there.
SaltwaterServr
03-28-2012, 07:58 AM
I'm a McAllen fan, but I've never had the 30 year. I usually will buy the 12 year, and when the company throws a party they will buy 18 year shots. I would never spend the kind of money that 30 year costs on any bottle of whiskey.
Dad got a bottle from one of the companies we contract with out of Mexico to build one of our frac sanders. They went from a flyspeck hole-in-the-wall with a few cracker box welders to a company with, hell, maybe 60 or 70 employees in 18 months.
Never underestimate the value of appreciated pilon when doing business with good old boys from Texas.
daschoo
03-28-2012, 08:01 AM
Forgive me as I read your post in the previous thread. The grandfather paradox goes as follows: Suppose you travel back in time and killed your biological grandfather before he met your grandmother. As a result, you would have never been concieved in the first place to be able to travel back.
But if you were never conceived to be able to go back in time and kill him then he would be alive to spawn your father who in turn spawns you thus you are able to travel back in time and kill your grandfather.
:p:
Sam I Am
03-28-2012, 08:10 AM
But if you were never conceived to be able to go back in time and kill him then he would be alive to spawn your father who in turn spawns you thus you are able to travel back in time and kill your grandfather.
:p:
That is why is referred to as a paradox. :laugh2:
Basically the premise is, you change the course of history after history has occurred. This is were the parallel time-lines theory comes in.
jubal
03-28-2012, 09:20 AM
No. :( Physics is not my ....
What is physics anyways? :laugh2:
I saw Sheldon trying to teach Penny the basics.:confused:
jubal
03-28-2012, 09:22 AM
In a rather surprising "swerve" Kim Kardashian is the head of a military coup and seizes the presidency of your country abolishing the sport of football meaning their is no superbowl.
OMG!!! Kill me now.:)
Afigueroa22
03-28-2012, 09:55 AM
What if my grandmother met another man and got married and had my mother or father? Would I still not exist?
I'm not sure if your question is sincere but I will humor you, of course you would not exist. Your grandmother could never have the same child (your mother or father) without your grandpa. He or she would have different genes, thus you would never have existed.
Mitcha68
03-28-2012, 09:55 AM
I saw Sheldon trying to teach Penny the basics.:confused:
Mmmm, Penny. :D
Afigueroa22
03-28-2012, 10:04 AM
That is why is referred to as a paradox. :laugh2:
Basically the premise is, you change the course of history after history has occurred. This is were the parallel time-lines theory comes in.
Ahh, yes the parallel universe scenario.
Yeagermeister
03-28-2012, 10:20 AM
I'm not sure if your question is sincere but I will humor you, of course you would not exist. Your grandmother could never have the same child (your mother or father) without your grandpa. He or she would have different genes, thus you would never have existed.
I could still be me just a different me :D
jobberone
03-28-2012, 11:01 AM
Might or might not be impossible. The arrow of time may preclude it. OTOH, enough energy may do it. Lot's of energy.
Wimbo
03-28-2012, 11:14 AM
You poor, poor misguided souls.
Liquid heaven distilled from the tears of angels who looked upon mankind and lamented that those they looked after in Heaven and Earth did not have a drink to remind them of things greater than themselves.
May I present to you:
http://www.landofwhisky.com/imageswhisky/catalogue/product_zoom_347.jpg
I can see we have an impasse here. As a gift to these boards, I will serve as an impartial arbitrator to determine what is indeed the best scotch on the planet. Everyone who thinks they know the best Scotch, just send me a bottle. I will (without compensation) carefully and thoroughly taste each entry & grade them on several characteristics. When I wake up, I will announce the winner.
ABQCOWBOY
03-28-2012, 11:32 AM
In a rather surprising "swerve" Kim Kardashian is the head of a military coup and seizes the presidency of your country abolishing the sport of football meaning their is no superbowl.
That's it Dash, your voted off the Island. Pack your stuff and get!
Sam I Am
03-28-2012, 11:40 AM
You cannot time travel anymore than you do today. (traveling along the belt of time) You can only compress or stretch the effect of time.
For instance, you can never go back in time. Once time has occurred, it's in the past. The faster you are moving the more you compress the effects of time on mass. The slower you move, you are stretching out the effects of time on mass.
Think of it like this. Say you are traveling 100 miles and that distance is "time". If you were going 60 miles you would come upon a mile marker every 60 seconds. If you sped up to 120mph, you would come across a mile marker every 30 seconds. You would have only aged 30 seconds, yet still traversed the same distance of time. You are still experiencing the entire "distance" of time, but it is happening faster.
If you slowed to 30mph, you would still travel the same time (distance), but would age at twice the rate before you reached each mile marker. In that extra 60 seconds of time, your body ages an extra 60 seconds due to the fact that you're only moving half the rate.
Now, that is only a analogy. The spectrum of speed to time dilation is actually much much greater. (ie, you would have to go much faster to see the effects).
You would have to travel at 446,400mph for 100 years straight to experience gain of about 702 seconds (11.7 minutes) in time dilation. Meaning to be 11.7 minutes younger than a guy born at the exact same moment as you on just living life on Earth for the same 100 years.
Afigueroa22
03-28-2012, 11:49 AM
You would have to travel at 446,400mph for 100 years straight to experience gain of about 702 seconds (11.7 minutes) in time dilation. Meaning to be 11.7 minutes younger than a guy born at the exact same moment as you on just living life on Earth for the same 100 years.
Yes Einstein explained if you traveled at the speed of light around the earth for a couple months when you landed it would be thousands of years in the future for everyone on earth but to you it would only have been those few months.
dexternjack
03-28-2012, 03:09 PM
From a class I took in college:
Time travel in theory is possible, but impossible at the same time. An example the Prof used (I will never forget) is dinosaurs. He said that if we were to get into a spaceship and be able to travel faster than the speed of light, at some point in the universe, if we had the technology to be able to look on the earth's surfaces, we would see the dinosaurs walking on our planet. Essentially, we traveled time. The problem is we are still far, far away, we can see the past, yet can not be there at the same time.
Sam I Am
03-28-2012, 03:29 PM
From a class I took in college:
Time travel in theory is possible, but impossible at the same time. An example the Prof used (I will never forget) is dinosaurs. He said that if we were to get into a spaceship and be able to travel faster than the speed of light, at some point in the universe, if we had the technology to be able to look on the earth's surfaces, we would see the dinosaurs walking on our planet. Essentially, we traveled time. The problem is we are still far, far away, we can see the past, yet can not be there at the same time.
The only thing that makes this true (actually not true too) is the fact that you would catch up to and pass the light that bounced off the dinosaurs 65 million years ago and turn around and allow that 65 million year old light to enter your eyes. (allowing you to see a dinosaur)
Of course, due to 65 million years of light spread, the best you would probably get is a single photon enter your pupil and therefore would never actually see a dinosaur.
That instances has nothing to do with time travel / time dilation. In that sense, you can never go / view back in time. The best you could do is view the past that occurred after left for light speed.
dexternjack
03-28-2012, 03:34 PM
The only thing that makes this true (actually not true too) is the fact that you would catch up to and pass the light that bounced off the dinosaurs 65 million years ago and turn around and allow that 65 million year old light to enter your eyes. (allowing you to see a dinosaur)
Of course, due to 65 million years of light spread, the best you would probably get is a single photon enter your pupil and therefore would never actually see a dinosaur.
That instances has nothing to do with time travel / time dilation. In that sense, you can never go / view back in time. The best you could do is view the past that occurred after left for light speed.
Agree, this was just a very vague example. Too many other things involved for this to actually work. In a sense, it might not be actual time travel, just an example of seeing the past in a way. If ya look at the dinosaur thing w/o dissecting it, it is pretty cool though.
Sam I Am
03-28-2012, 03:43 PM
Agree, this was just a very vague example. Too many other things involved for this to actually work. In a sense, it might not be actual time travel, just an example of seeing the past in a way. If ya look at the dinosaur thing w/o dissecting it, it is pretty cool though.
Definitely. I wouldn't mind seeing a T-Rex. Especially from the past so I don't have to get that close to the real thing. :laugh2:
Afigueroa22
03-30-2012, 08:35 PM
Definitely. I wouldn't mind seeing a T-Rex. Especially from the past so I don't have to get that close to the real thing. :laugh2:
Actually I would love to visit a real life Jurassic Park.
burmafrd
03-31-2012, 08:16 AM
I would like all lawyers to visit Jurassic Park
The best arguement that Time Travel is not possible is that terrible things have happened in this world.
If it was possible someone would have come back and say for instance killed Hitler in the 20's; stalin too.
Or the fact that there is not one tyrant ruling the world.
Otherwise we know nowhere near enough about anything to say otherwise.
Like those saying that the Speed of Light is not attainable. Or the limit.
There is noway we know enough to say that.
Afigueroa22
04-06-2012, 12:25 AM
The best arguement that Time Travel is not possible is that terrible things have happened in this world.
If it was possible someone would have come back and say for instance killed Hitler in the 20's; stalin too.
.
What if Hitler or Stalin are from the future?
burmafrd
04-06-2012, 07:46 AM
What if Hitler or Stalin are from the future?
then they would have been much more successful.
CashMan
04-06-2012, 08:25 AM
Out of pure curiosity, are you trying to say(Sam I Am), that you can see the past, but you are not able to change it?
Afigueroa22
04-06-2012, 11:23 AM
Out of pure curiosity, are you trying to say(Sam I Am), that you can see the past, but you are not able to change it?
I'm not sure what Sam ment but Einstein did say time viewing is possible, to the past that is.
CashMan
04-06-2012, 11:47 AM
I'm not sure what Sam ment but Einstein did say time viewing is possible, to the past that is.
I am wondering, if that meant only observing not interacting. I believe scientists who use the space telescope can see into the past as well. The light from distant planets takes well, time to travel. So, they can not see what is happening right now, but many years in the past.
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