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rkell87
04-03-2012, 08:01 AM
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Mo Claiborne of LSU scored a four on the Wunderlic test. A tree stump could score a five. That's embarrassing.
TheDallasDon
04-03-2012, 08:03 AM
Wow!!!! That can't be right, no way.
JackWagon
04-03-2012, 08:03 AM
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/03/claiborne-gives-birth-to-a-four-on-the-wonderlic/
a 4 on the wonderlic ... only possible explanation is that he intentionally got the answers wrong cause i really dont think anyone is less intelligent than VY.
Doomsday101
04-03-2012, 08:07 AM
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/03/claiborne-gives-birth-to-a-four-on-the-wonderlic/
a 4 on the wonderlic ... only possible explanation is that he intentionally got the answers wrong cause i really dont think anyone is less intelligent than VY.
I don't want him to do my taxes just cover the WR we stick you in front of. :laugh2:
Joe Rod
04-03-2012, 08:12 AM
Can the tree-stump play bump and run?
ThreeandOut
04-03-2012, 08:17 AM
Can the tree-stump play bump and run?
No, but it would make a pretty stout nose tackle.
Woods
04-03-2012, 08:18 AM
don't you get a couple of points for getting your name right? or is that the SAT? :D
Sam I Am
04-03-2012, 08:19 AM
A 4? Wow, that can't be right. What did he do, just put an "X" for every answer?
dez_for_prez
04-03-2012, 08:19 AM
Am I supposed to believe that he made it though college on his own?
Kangaroo
04-03-2012, 08:20 AM
Pat Dooley @pat_dooley Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Mo Claiborne of LSU scored a four on the Wunderlic test. A tree stump could score a five. That's embarrassing.
Wow either he is flat out dumb as dumb can be or he just did not care about the test.
Either way it will be a red flag
rkell87
04-03-2012, 08:22 AM
Am I supposed to believe that he made it though college on his own?
LSU? yeah
BrAinPaiNt
04-03-2012, 08:30 AM
Word from some of his team mates and class mates is that during class all he did was listen to music...mostly stuff from Pittbull.
:p: :D
Sam I Am
04-03-2012, 08:37 AM
Wow either he is flat out dumb as dumb can be or he just did not care about the test.
Either way it will be a red flag
*If* this report is actually true. I find it unreal that someone could score a 4 on the Wonderlic if they were actually trying to answer questions. I believe scoring a 10 is considered illiterate.
BrAinPaiNt
04-03-2012, 08:40 AM
*If* this report is actually true. I find it unreal that someone could score a 4 on the Wonderlic if they were actually trying to answer questions. I believe scoring a 10 is considered illiterate.
Well remember Vince Young taking the test something like three times and even after the third one I think he only got around a 14 or something.
cowboyjoe
04-03-2012, 08:42 AM
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Mo Claiborne of LSU scored a four on the Wunderlic test. A tree stump could score a five. That's embarrassing.
some peope like clairborne, i dont, runs a slow 40, 4.49. He is no patrick peterson in my estimation, but hey, what do i know. Granted he is a good force jam cb, but deep speed does he have it? Dont think so.
Joe Rod
04-03-2012, 08:47 AM
I don't want him to do my taxes just cover the WR we stick you in front of. :laugh2:
With a score like that, how can you say that he won't mistake "bump and run" for "bump-n-grind"?
Avery
04-03-2012, 08:48 AM
I don't see how someone could pass classes and score a 4. If a person randomly chose answers, they would score higher than that.
boysfanindc
04-03-2012, 08:53 AM
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/03/claiborne-gives-birth-to-a-four-on-the-wonderlic/
a 4 on the wonderlic ... only possible explanation is that he intentionally got the answers wrong cause i really dont think anyone is less intelligent than VY.
If he did it on purpose, that lowers his score to a 3!
rkell87
04-03-2012, 08:54 AM
great I copied what the guy wrote and he didn't even get the name of the test right that he is making fun of the player for doing poorly on :bang2:
JackWagon
04-03-2012, 08:59 AM
As i said in the News section ... this dude had to be answering wrong intentionally. You can randomly pick answers and score better than a 4.
TheDallasDon
04-03-2012, 09:01 AM
As i said in the News section ... this dude had to be answering wrong intentionally. You can randomly pick answers and score better than a 4.
What the hell for?
JackWagon
04-03-2012, 09:03 AM
What the hell for?
Maybe making a statement about how intelligence tests have no bearing on your future in the NFL. (just a guess)
a_minimalist
04-03-2012, 09:19 AM
stephon gilmore just had his stock rise again.
JackWagon
04-03-2012, 09:26 AM
Just saw someone on twitter posted Dan Marinos score of like a 13 and Ryan Leaf scored in the high 20s. Goes to show you the wonderlic has nothing to do with football.
JonJon
04-03-2012, 09:30 AM
What the hell for?
Maybe he is trying to drop his stock so that he doesn't end up with a sorry team like the Bucs?? :confused:
JonJon
04-03-2012, 09:36 AM
Here is a wonderlic example. It's hard to imagine someone in college performing that poorly on this without intentionally doing so.
http://walterfootball.com/images/wonderlic1.jpg
DON DON
04-03-2012, 09:49 AM
Thanks Jon Jon. I have never seen a real example. After reading the questions, no idea how a "college student" could do so bad. How could he pass the SAT to even get into college in the first place if he truly had this much trouble with this simple test? Makes you wonder!
Sam I Am
04-03-2012, 10:03 AM
Thanks Jon Jon. I have never seen a real example. After reading the questions, no idea how a "college student" could do so bad. How could he pass the SAT to even get into college in the first place if he truly had this much trouble with this simple test? Makes you wonder!
Because a lot of the schools doesn't give a crap about they players academics. They are there to make the school money.
The NCAA should give academic tests like they issue drug tests.
CrazyCowboy
04-03-2012, 10:08 AM
I don't want him to do my taxes just cover the WR we stick you in front of. :laugh2:
Perfect! I like it......lol
Hoofbite
04-03-2012, 10:15 AM
I wouldn't even think about taking a guy that dumb regardless of talent.
I think you would deliberately have to try to score that low.
DBOY3141
04-03-2012, 10:30 AM
Just saw someone on twitter posted Dan Marinos score of like a 13 and Ryan Leaf scored in the high 20s. Goes to show you the wonderlic has nothing to do with football.
:bow:
jimnabby
04-03-2012, 10:32 AM
*If* this report is actually true. I find it unreal that someone could score a 4 on the Wonderlic if they were actually trying to answer questions. I believe scoring a 10 is considered illiterate.That's the simplest and most likely explanation right there. If this score is real, I would assume that he really is illiterate, and can't read the test at all. But hey, he's a student-athlete in the best NCAA tradition!
See the ball, catch the ball. BTW Akiem Hicks didnt get into LSU.
newnationcb
04-03-2012, 11:03 AM
I wouldn't even think about taking a guy that dumb regardless of talent.
I think you would deliberately have to try to score that low.
You wouldn't have taken a player like Calvin Johnson if he scored a 4 on the wonderlick?
Because disregarding his book intelligence, his football intelligence in zone/man coverages and instincts on the field have never been questioned. If that's what he's going to be doing at this level then why should that bother you?
It's the equivalent of not hiring the best plumber in your neighborhood because even after all the testimonies, right before he was scheduled to arrive at your house, you found out he dropped out of school 4 grades lower than the rest of the plumbers around.
We pay these guys to play football, not tutor our kids.
Doomsday
04-03-2012, 11:20 AM
Well they always say corners have to have short memories. He might be taking that a bit too literally.
Hoofbite
04-03-2012, 11:22 AM
You wouldn't have taken a player like Calvin Johnson if he scored a 4 on the wonderlick?
Because disregarding his book intelligence, his football intelligence in zone/man coverages and instincts on the field have never been questioned. If that's what he's going to be doing at this level then why should that bother you?
It's the equivalent of not hiring the best plumber in your neighborhood because even after all the testimonies, right before he was scheduled to arrive at your house, you found out he dropped out of school 4 grades lower than the rest of the plumbers around.
We pay these guys to play football, not tutor our kids.
Way to pick the best possible case to make your point.
What was Calvin's score anyway?
The30YardSlant
04-03-2012, 11:59 AM
For reference, the test is designed so that scouts consider anyone who scores below an 8 to be functionally illiterate. They throw enough obvious questions in that anyone who can actually read well will get at least that.
A 4 is a sign that Claiborne can barely read. Still better than Dexter Manley though who couldnt even sign his own name on his first NFL contract.
Doomsday101
04-03-2012, 12:01 PM
With a score like that, how can you say that he won't mistake "bump and run" for "bump-n-grind"?
He plays football he is not trying to cure cancer. Dexter Manly could not spell his name but he sure as hell could get after a QB. :laugh2:
The30YardSlant
04-03-2012, 12:03 PM
You wouldn't have taken a player like Calvin Johnson if he scored a 4 on the wonderlick?
Because disregarding his book intelligence, his football intelligence in zone/man coverages and instincts on the field have never been questioned. If that's what he's going to be doing at this level then why should that bother you?
It's the equivalent of not hiring the best plumber in your neighborhood because even after all the testimonies, right before he was scheduled to arrive at your house, you found out he dropped out of school 4 grades lower than the rest of the plumbers around.
We pay these guys to play football, not tutor our kids.
You are right up until a certain point. If a player cannot read the playbook, then it becomes a concern.
There have always been rumors that Dez Bryant had his own personal assistant coach at OSU who verbalized the playbook for him, and with his inability to know the Cowboys offense any better thn he does after two years I'm beginning to buy into it.
Idgit
04-03-2012, 12:03 PM
Gotta outperform your draft slot. Otherwise it's bad luck.
fortdick
04-03-2012, 12:09 PM
Gotta outperform your draft slot. Otherwise it's bad luck.
:lmao2:
jswalker1981
04-03-2012, 12:12 PM
I'm sorry, am I the only one that finds it funny that the thread is about a low score on the wonderlic, but wonderlic is misspelled in the title?
31smackdown
04-03-2012, 12:13 PM
Bill Polian was on Sirius this morning and he said that a single digit score could indicate a reading or learning disability and usually triggers a second round of testing at the team level. Sometimes it's not an issue, but teams usually run additional tests afterwards to confirm the player can absorb and retain information.
He also has Claiborne rated lower than some of the other top prospects at other positions because he thinks he is a pure cover guy and not physical enough to be given a premiere rating based on the that gap in his game.
Sam I Am
04-03-2012, 12:16 PM
He plays football he is not trying to cure cancer. Dexter Manly could not spell his name but he sure as hell could get after a QB. :laugh2:
There is a difference between ignorant and stupid though. An ignorant man can be capable of reading, but never taught. A stupid man can be taught to read and never learn.
Dexter Manley was teachable. He just never learned to read and write. He did on the other hand learn to rush the passer.
Maybe Claiborne just never learned to read. If that is the fact, LSU should lose the accreditation, because there is no doubt they know he can't read and yet they let him enroll there and paid for his tuition.
The30YardSlant
04-03-2012, 12:19 PM
There is a difference between ignorant and stupid though. An ignorant man can be capable of reading, but never taught. A stupid man can be taught to read and never learn.
Dexter Manley was teachable. He just never learned to read and write. He did on the other hand learn to rush the passer.
Maybe Claiborne just never learned to read. If that is the fact, LSU should lose the accreditation, because there is no doubt they know he can't read and yet they let him enroll there and paid for his tuition.
Dexter Manley has a degree from Oklahoma State and didnt learn to write his name until his mid-30s. He literally had to have people taking tests for him.
Hell, Vince Young and Jamaal Charles were academic all-americans at Texas and neither could probably write in complete sentences. Academics don't mean anything to many athletes, and the schools don't care if how they get by as long as they do.
newnationcb
04-03-2012, 12:29 PM
Way to pick the best possible case to make your point.
What was Calvin's score anyway?
His score is not my point.
My point is that this guy has performed at the College level, at his position, in a manner and without any obvious flaws in his game, to garner pick considerations at about the 4 or 5 range. Slightly less than Calvin.
They have a playbook in college too right?
If you hadn't heard the score you'd be okay with taking him number 4. Not like there was anything thing in his game that gave you the inkling to want to corroborate against a wonderlic score.
But now you see the score you won't touch him? This is the perfect point where a test score, like some combine numbers at times, are meaningless.
I'm on my way to a medical program. Some of the smartest guys I've played against on the basketball court, with the greatest instincts, won't have sniffed a D in my basic science classes in college.
Sports intelligence doesn't necessarily correlate with books intelligence.
Joe Rod
04-03-2012, 12:29 PM
He plays football he is not trying to cure cancer. Dexter Manly could not spell his name but he sure as hell could get after a QB. :laugh2:
That's good, cause he can't spell cancer. I hope the dude drops all the way down to Dallas honestly, but it is an absolute joke that he went to LSU if that score is legit.
JonJon
04-03-2012, 12:30 PM
Morris Claiborne was diagnosed with a learning disability in high school.
According to the National Football Post's Greg Gabriel, LSU CB Morris Claiborne was diagnosed with a learning disability in high school.
This helps explain why he registered a four on the Wonderlic Test. Per Gabriel, colleges that recruited Claiborne knew of the learning disability, which affects the player's ability to read. "Claiborne’s test score was NOT a true indicator of his intelligence," Gabriel writes. "He can and does learn." Apr 3 - 12:48 PM
http://rotoworld.com/player/nfl/7461/morris-claiborne
Joe Rod
04-03-2012, 12:42 PM
Morris Claiborne was diagnosed with a learning disability in high school.
According to the National Football Post's Greg Gabriel, LSU CB Morris Claiborne was diagnosed with a learning disability in high school.
This helps explain why he registered a four on the Wonderlic Test. Per Gabriel, colleges that recruited Claiborne knew of the learning disability, which affects the player's ability to read. "Claiborne’s test score was NOT a true indicator of his intelligence," Gabriel writes. "He can and does learn." Apr 3 - 12:48 PM
http://rotoworld.com/player/nfl/7461/morris-claiborne
That is good info to know. If that is the case, is there no alternative wonderlic test for people with reading disabilities? I find that a little odd.
Edit: interesting note, my spell check did not recognize "wonderlic" and suggested that I instead use "wonderbra".
The30YardSlant
04-03-2012, 12:48 PM
Morris Claiborne was diagnosed with a learning disability in high school.
According to the National Football Post's Greg Gabriel, LSU CB Morris Claiborne was diagnosed with a learning disability in high school.
This helps explain why he registered a four on the Wonderlic Test. Per Gabriel, colleges that recruited Claiborne knew of the learning disability, which affects the player's ability to read. "Claiborne’s test score was NOT a true indicator of his intelligence," Gabriel writes. "He can and does learn." Apr 3 - 12:48 PM
http://rotoworld.com/player/nfl/7461/morris-claiborne
I'm always leery when it comes to athletes and diagnosed learning disabilities. Universities have been known to get a diagnosis like this for the purposes of enrolling an athlete who otherwise would not qualify.
Hoofbite
04-03-2012, 12:49 PM
His score is not my point.
My point is that this guy has performed at the College level, at his position, in a manner and without any obvious flaws in his game, to garner pick considerations at about the 4 or 5 range. Slightly less than Calvin.
They have a playbook in college too right?
If you hadn't heard the score you'd be okay with taking him number 4. Not like there was anything thing in his game that gave you the inkling to want to corroborate against a wonderlic score.
But now you see the score you won't touch him? This is the perfect point where a test score, like some combine numbers at times, are meaningless.
I'm on my way to a medical program. Some of the smartest guys I've played against on the basketball court, with the greatest instincts, won't have sniffed a D in my basic science classes in college.
Sports intelligence doesn't necessarily correlate with books intelligence.
Sorry. Just my opinion. I wouldn't risk a pick on a guy who can't read.
Supposedly he has a learning disability so maybe i would reevaluate.
Doomsday101
04-03-2012, 12:51 PM
I'm always leery when it comes to athletes and diagnosed learning disabilities. Universities have been known to get a diagnosis like this for the purposes of enrolling an athlete who otherwise would not qualify.
Bottom line if he could not play football he would not have gone to college period.
a_minimalist
04-03-2012, 12:53 PM
thankfully, he will not be reading moby dick while trying to cover top receivers.
The30YardSlant
04-03-2012, 12:54 PM
thankfully, he will not be reading moby dick while trying to cover top receivers.
Apparently, he won;t be reading anything at all...ever.
Doomsday101
04-03-2012, 12:58 PM
Apparently, he won;t be reading anything at all...ever.
But with enough money he can make it rain. :D
Mountaineerfan
04-03-2012, 01:01 PM
With a score like that, how can you say that he won't mistake "bump and run" for "bump-n-grind"?
I just spit coke all over my pizza!
a_minimalist
04-03-2012, 01:04 PM
Apparently, he won;t be reading anything at all...ever.
And that's okay. lol
newnationcb
04-03-2012, 01:05 PM
I'm always leery when it comes to athletes and diagnosed learning disabilities. Universities have been known to get a diagnosis like this for the purposes of enrolling an athlete who otherwise would not qualify.
Universities have been known to penetrate the "high school" system to enforce a diagnosis on a potential future star to make it easy for dumb athletes to slip through the cracks? Damn?
Now was this LSU who did this? Did they know who was going to go there before the recruited him?
JonJon
04-03-2012, 01:11 PM
If his learning disability is Dyslexia, which I suspect it is, then what impact can that have on him reading and understanding the playbook? That could possibly lead to him being out of place and giving up a big play.
The30YardSlant
04-03-2012, 01:21 PM
Universities have been known to penetrate the "high school" system to enforce a diagnosis on a potential future star to make it easy for dumb athletes to slip through the cracks? Damn?
Absolutely. Nick Saban and Les Miles have done it several times. Ryan Perriloux signed with LSU in 2005 and was diagnosed with a learning disability two weeks prior to fall practices beginning.
Now was this LSU who did this? Did they know who was going to go there before the recruited him?
They do it after a player has signed their letter of intent, during the Spring and Summer when the athlete is trying to qualify. Leaning disabilities alter the criteria required by the NCAA for admission.
Go check out Baylor's recruitment of Ahmad Dixon a couple years ago for a recent example. He had scholorships offers from everyone and everybody but a select few pulled them when it become clear he wasnt going to qualify. He signed with Art Briles and a few weeks later was given a diagnosis by a Waco physician. It isnt technically against any NCAA guidelines and if you have a doctor willing to go along with it it is perfectly legal. Watch the recruitment of current A&M committ Derrick Griffin this year, dollars to donuts says they try and use the same stunt with him.
Sam I Am
04-03-2012, 01:27 PM
If his learning disability is Dyslexia, which I suspect it is, then what impact can that have on him reading and understanding the playbook?
Well, it's a good thing a lot of teams are switching to iPads for playbooks. I'm sure you can render the text backwards so it looks correct to him. :laugh2:
Jimmy Johnson @JimmyJohnson Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
“@vanhalenroth: you ever not draft a player because of wonderlic ? 90% of my misses were because I took a chance on marginal intelligence
boysfanindc
04-03-2012, 02:46 PM
How is he going to read the street signs to get to the stadium?;)
fanfromvirginia
04-03-2012, 02:48 PM
*If* this report is actually true. I find it unreal that someone could score a 4 on the Wonderlic if they were actually trying to answer questions. I believe scoring a 10 is considered illiterate.
He might in fact be illiterate. It's a very real possibility. How an illiterate person gets into and passes college begs its own set of questions but it is plausible.
InmanRoshi
04-03-2012, 02:50 PM
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/516yBESfJeL._SL500_AA300_.jpg
baj1dallas
04-03-2012, 03:20 PM
As somebody who always scored high on those type of tests, I find them completely meaningless. No correlation to success in life whatsoever.
Too bad they can't make a paper test that measures drive.
Doomsday101
04-03-2012, 03:22 PM
He is a CB. Point him at the guy wearing the number you want cover and tell him stick with this guy. :laugh2:
casmith07
04-03-2012, 03:27 PM
I think some of these guys go in there and just pencil whip the test, because it largely doesn't matter at all.
Patrick Peterson scored a 7 or a 9 or something like that, and that hasn't stopped him from being a ridiculously good punt returner and rising star at CB.
casmith07
04-03-2012, 03:30 PM
Word from some of his team mates and class mates is that during class all he did was listen to music...mostly stuff from Pittbull.
:p: :D
:lmao: I hate you.
Doomsday101
04-03-2012, 03:45 PM
I think some of these guys go in there and just pencil whip the test, because it largely doesn't matter at all.
Patrick Peterson scored a 7 or a 9 or something like that, and that hasn't stopped him from being a ridiculously good punt returner and rising star at CB.
Of course not. In the end these are football players they have been playing for years they understand it and know how to play the game. What they score means nothing in terms of their ability to play the game.
arglebargle
04-03-2012, 04:22 PM
Jimmy Johnson @JimmyJohnson Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
“@vanhalenroth: you ever not draft a player because of wonderlic ? 90% of my misses were because I took a chance on marginal intelligence
Yep, Jimmy's failed drafts in Miami are a sterling example of this....
a_minimalist
04-03-2012, 04:26 PM
As somebody who always scored high on those type of tests, I find them completely meaningless. No correlation to success in life whatsoever.
Too bad they can't make a paper test that measures drive.
VERY WELL SAID!!!:bow:
Snauty
04-03-2012, 04:38 PM
VERY WELL SAID!!!:bow:
If anyone is interested, you take a small test of this one online for free.
http://www.nicholascreative.com/footballiq/index.php?reset=true
I scored a 19.
cowboysooner
04-03-2012, 05:31 PM
If he were a safety or inside linebacker I might care. If he were an offensive lineman I would not draft him. As a corner or defensive lineman, I don't think it matters.
how far does this cause him to drop?
Risen Star
04-03-2012, 05:53 PM
Word from some of his team mates and class mates is that during class all he did was listen to music...mostly stuff from Pittbull.
:p: :D
Which proves he's an idiot even before the test score came back to confirm.
Risen Star
04-03-2012, 05:54 PM
how far does this cause him to drop?
Not at all.
1OldMan
04-03-2012, 06:30 PM
If one might care to cut through some of the speculation surrounding the Claiborne wonderlic test score, the opinion of an informed professional NFL scout on this topic may be read here (http://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2012/4/3/2923678/scouts-view-morris-claiborne-and-the-wonderlic-test).
a_minimalist
04-03-2012, 06:41 PM
If one might care to cut through some of the speculation surrounding the Claiborne wonderlic test score, the opinion of an informed professional NFL scout on this topic may be read here (http://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2012/4/3/2923678/scouts-view-morris-claiborne-and-the-wonderlic-test).
Read it, and I couldn't agree more. I think it's pretty weak that it was released. It sounds like the guy is dyslexic which doesn't mean he isn't intelligent.
Kristen82
04-03-2012, 06:59 PM
Read it, and I couldn't agree more. I think it's pretty weak that it was released. It sounds like the guy is dyslexic which doesn't mean he isn't intelligent.
Frank Gore is dyslexic too.
a_minimalist
04-03-2012, 07:03 PM
Frank Gore is dyslexic too.
and look at frank gore. this score means nothing.
Staxxxx
04-03-2012, 07:08 PM
Morris Claiborne was diagnosed with a learning disability in high school.
According to the National Football Post's Greg Gabriel, LSU CB Morris Claiborne was diagnosed with a learning disability in high school.
This helps explain why he registered a four on the Wonderlic Test. Per Gabriel, colleges that recruited Claiborne knew of the learning disability, which affects the player's ability to read. "Claiborne’s test score was NOT a true indicator of his intelligence," Gabriel writes. "He can and does learn." Apr 3 - 12:48 PM
http://rotoworld.com/player/nfl/7461/morris-claiborne Not that I'm trying to justify a 4 here but Marcellus Wiley was just on ESPN radio and made a point that when put into the context of the above quote may help explain things a bit. Marcellus who went to Columbia said that when he took the test they give you 12 minutes to take a 50 question test and they put all of the reading comprehension questions at the front of test test. The reading comprehension questions take longer to read and sometimes by design you have to read them a couple of times to figure out what they want. He said when he took the test he was really struggling with the time and getting through the reading comprehension questions until he realized that he didn't have to do them in order. Said about halfway through his allotted time he jumped to the back of the test where the math and other shorter to read questions were and ended up doing alright.
Kangaroo
04-03-2012, 08:55 PM
Read it, and I couldn't agree more. I think it's pretty weak that it was released. It sounds like the guy is dyslexic which doesn't mean he isn't intelligent.
Sorry dyslexic would not net you a score of 4 the guy would not have made it through college with out getting assitant for dyslexic. If it is know then they would modify the time frame for the test.
The only reason you get a 4 is by doing nothing
fanfromvirginia
04-03-2012, 10:15 PM
We should also consider the possibility that the guy is dumber than dirt. That's another potential diagnosis that I haven't seen mentioned.
Not all football players are misunderstood little victims of the system. This isn't chess we have chosen to avidly follow, after all.
I know there is an important distinction between ignorant and stupid. Sometimes it doesn't matter. That is what the word 'dumb' is for.
AKATheRake
04-03-2012, 10:21 PM
No, but it would make a pretty stout nose tackle.
Nice! :laugh2:
a_minimalist
04-03-2012, 10:44 PM
Sorry dyslexic would not net you a score of 4 the guy would not have made it through college with out getting assitant for dyslexic. If it is know then they would modify the time frame for the test.
The only reason you get a 4 is by doing nothing
"Morris Claiborne does not have a learning disability or a low intelligence. He has a condition that affects his reading. This has been something that has been known since he came out of high school. He is actually a very bright and intelligent person who has no problem learning, he just cannot use a conventional route in doing so. He has someone read it to him, listens to books and research papers on audio. He has no problem learning using these different methods and he fully understands his problem reading letters and takes every step he can to not let it hold him back."
Did you read the article? Can you read man?
Salrandin
04-04-2012, 11:07 AM
Way to pick the best possible case to make your point.
What was Calvin's score anyway?
Calvin Johnson scored a 41.
Hoofbite
04-04-2012, 11:14 AM
Calvin Johnson scored a 41.
Oh, that's just too beautiful.
jamesdojr
04-04-2012, 11:15 AM
I was watching his pro day workout on NFL Network. Dang that dude can move. I was very very impressed. Explosive and quick-twitched. Changes directions on a dime and very very football fast. I think he's better than Patrick Peterson. If he drops to 7-10 range, Jerry serioulsy needs to try and make an offer to move up and get him.
As far as the score goes....meh! Some people are just bad at tests like that. Doesn;t mean he's a stupid person or that he can't learn a playbook.
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Pat Dooley @pat_dooley Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Mo Claiborne of LSU scored a four on the Wunderlic test. A tree stump could score a five. That's embarrassing.
Doomsday101
04-04-2012, 11:23 AM
Put your X on the contract I'll gladly take you Claiborne. :D
StanleySpadowski
04-04-2012, 12:00 PM
Sorry dyslexic would not net you a score of 4 the guy would not have made it through college with out getting assitant for dyslexic. If it is know then they would modify the time frame for the test.
The only reason you get a 4 is by doing nothing
Dyslexia or any of the rare reading disabilities could easily explain a score in the single digits.
The wonderlic is a marvelous tool when you understand that it not only neccesarily tests "intelligence" but "processing speed". Because the test is only in written form, people with reading disablities are at a distinct disadvantage because they do not receive accomodations such as extra time.
Morris Claiborne @MoClaiborne Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Some peopl don't no what the test is about r what it is for. But u guys will have to do more then that to bring Momo17 dwn!!! $$$$$ :-)
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a_minimalist
04-04-2012, 09:16 PM
Morris Claiborne @MoClaiborne Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Some peopl don't no what the test is about r what it is for. But u guys will have to do more then that to bring Momo17 dwn!!! $$$$$ :-)
Retweeted by Rick Stroud
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Good for him.
Hoofbite
04-04-2012, 10:50 PM
Dyslexia or any of the rare reading disabilities could easily explain a score in the single digits.
The wonderlic is a marvelous tool when you understand that it not only neccesarily tests "intelligence" but "processing speed". Because the test is only in written form, people with reading disablities are at a distinct disadvantage because they do not receive accomodations such as extra time.
Wouldn't "processing speed" be of some importance? Generally speaking?
Not that this is the case with Claiborn. I think it's more along the lines of input speed with him. He can only decipher so much at any giving time.
I said I wouldn't take him with a score of 4 but knowing now that his problem isn't flat out idiocy, I likely wouldn't hold his score against him in the same manner that I would a fully capable person.
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