Would you trade Felix if...

[a_minimalist]

now hear me out because originally I jumped the gun and was all for the idea of trading him. Then I got around to actually thinking, not reacting, and Felix as a #2 is ideal, I don't think we could ever do better. Also, I wouldn't really want to trade him unless it's for something very, very good.

But, and it's a BIG but, if the Cowboys somehow managed to jump up to #8 because they feel strongly about Fletcher Cox would you be okay with including Felix in the trade? Let's say it's our #14, Felix, the 4th and maybe the 5th pick? I think you can sell Felix pretty hard even with the injuries.

[cowboy_ron]

now hear me out because originally I jumped the gun and was all for the idea of trading him. Then I got around to actually thinking, not reacting, and Felix as a #2 is ideal, I don't think we could ever do better. Also, I wouldn't really want to trade him unless it's for something very, very good.

But, and it's a BIG but, if the Cowboys somehow managed to jump up to #8 because they feel strongly about Fletcher Cox would you be okay with including Felix in the trade? Let's say it's our #14, Felix, the 4th and maybe the 5th pick? I think you can sell Felix pretty hard even with the injuries.
No...

[Shadowy329]

I'd trade him. But not for the scenario you suggested.

He's likely walking after next year so there is no reason to not get something for him this year if we can.

[1LoyalCowboyFan]

No, I would not. I think that deal shows a lack of value for Felix. I wouldn't want Cox that bad and I don't think the cowboys do either. Hope I am right.

[visionary]

only if you also throw in the second and 3rd round picks while youre at it;)

[tm1119]

Felix has little trade value. I can't imagine him being worth more than a 4th or 5th rounder.

[Joe Rod]

If they trade Felix, it would most likely be in the preseason after another team has an injury or has a need with no viable FA options. Player value is at its lowest around draft time.

JMO

[rocboy22]

no, rather would just stay at 14 and pick the best guy available

[cowboysooner]

That would be a great trade. You are getting a cornerstone player at a position of need and importance for your 1st round pick, a good rotation running back that has 1 year left, and two more picks that are unlikely to be more than role players. Cornerstone players are much more difficult and expensive to find than solid contributors.

That is usually not how trades go. I could see the asking team wanting Felix, #14 and #81. That could have some merit. I'd much rather have 81 than 113 and 152.

[a_minimalist]

That would be a great trade. You are getting a cornerstone player at a position of need and importance for your 1st round pick, a good rotation running back that has 1 year left, and two more picks that are unlikely to be more than role players. Cornerstone players are much more difficult and expensive to find than solid contributors.

That is usually not how trades go. I could see the asking team wanting Felix, #14 and #81. That could have some merit. I'd much rather have 81 than 113 and 152.

That's where I'm leaning. I think it would be worth the risk.

[Hostile]

I will consider trading any backup player. It doesn't have to be for a specific trade scenario. By virtue of being a backup that could start for someone else it gives them dual value. Simply weigh value to the team against value in a trade.

[cowboysooner]

That's where I'm leaning. I think it would be worth the risk.

Would you trade Amukamara, Arkin, Felix and the DB we cut, for either Watt, Tyron or Aldon Smith?

Of course. You have to be confident of what you are getting, but in all likelihood you are drafting the 2nd or 3rd defender in this draft.

[a_minimalist]

I will consider trading any backup player. It doesn't have to be for a specific trade scenario. By virtue of being a backup that could start for someone else it gives them dual value. Simply weigh value to the team against value in a trade.


Would you trade Amukamara, Arkin, Felix and the DB we cut, for either Watt, Tyron or Aldon Smith?

Of course. You have to be confident of what you are getting, but in all likelihood you are drafting the 2nd or 3rd defender in this draft.

Well would you both agree that Felix still has high trade value despite the injuries. I dont have stats but he is still more productive than a large portion of the backs in this league, even with the injuries. I personally think he'd be a very strong trade option.

[Hailmary]

I would consider it, but not to move up. I'd want picks, a third this year and a pick next year dependent on felix's performance (i.e. yds rushed, games played, etc...).

I think there are players in 2nd to 3rd rd range that could easily fill the role behind Murray (Doug Martin, Lamar Miller, Lamichael James).

[fifaguy]

now hear me out because originally I jumped the gun and was all for the idea of trading him. Then I got around to actually thinking, not reacting, and Felix as a #2 is ideal, I don't think we could ever do better. Also, I wouldn't really want to trade him unless it's for something very, very good.

But, and it's a BIG but, if the Cowboys somehow managed to jump up to #8 because they feel strongly about Fletcher Cox would you be okay with including Felix in the trade? Let's say it's our #14, Felix, the 4th and maybe the 5th pick? I think you can sell Felix pretty hard even with the injuries.

No.

But I would not be surprised if they at least listen if anyone makes an offer. Despite them denying they are shopping him...

[cowboysooner]

I think Felix's trade value is lower than his probable production as a 1A or 1B running back. I think his production in Dallas is pretty low because Dallas sees Murray as a feature back. At least that looked like the plan when he got in there.

I certainly would not plan to take Murray off of the field on 3rd down, because despite his drops last year his hands and route running ability are probably his biggest strengths along with his vision.

[daboyzruleperiod]

I sure wouldn't trade a guy who had three back to back 100yd games.
Felix is an asset to this team.

Some say he's been accident prone, what RB isn't. Their the first to retire. Felix is far from being accent prone, he's a work horse and a work horse will get hurt and run down at times.


Jones has one year left, the 'boys will keep him, no doubt. Murray will be our #1.:D

[jimnabby]

I would consider it, but not to move up. I'd want picks, a third this year and a pick next year dependent on felix's performance (i.e. yds rushed, games played, etc...).Well, sure, and I'd want a pony too.

Nobody's going to give a 3rd rounder for Felix, much less a 3rd rounder plus more.

As for the original question, of course I'd consider trading him. If we could (as an example) package him with our 2nd rounder to move up for someone who was falling unexpectedly, someone like Konz or Fleener, absolutely I'd do that deal.

[Hailmary]

Well, sure, and I'd want a pony too.

Nobody's going to give a 3rd rounder for Felix, much less a 3rd rounder plus more.

As for the original question, of course I'd consider trading him. If we could (as an example) package him with our 2nd rounder to move up for someone who was falling unexpectedly, someone like Konz or Fleener, absolutely I'd do that deal.
I don't think a 3rd this year and a conditional pick next year is asking for the moon. Yes, he's had durability issues, but you're looking at a 24yr old kid w/o too much mileage who's shown good explosiveness and a terrific ypc average. He's more than serviceable in the passing game and could help out a team in the return game from day one.

And it's only something i'd consider if the value was something I considered fair. If he was aging or a locker room cancer, then yea, it would be asking for too much. But seeing as how no one in the front office is looking to "unload" him, why not see what you can get in return?

[a_minimalist]

Well, sure, and I'd want a pony too.

Nobody's going to give a 3rd rounder for Felix, much less a 3rd rounder plus more.

As for the original question, of course I'd consider trading him. If we could (as an example) package him with our 2nd rounder to move up for someone who was falling unexpectedly, someone like Konz or Fleener, absolutely I'd do that deal.

I think you are underrating him. I absolutely think he is worth a third rounder maybe with a kicker(not an actual kicker).

[cowboysooner]

I think his value is determined by where David Wilson and Doug Martin go.

I think teams would rank Felix as the 4th or 5th back in this draft, but with the downside of a more expensive contract. You are going to get more out of Felix next year than Lamar Miller, although they are similar players. Turbin is good but a different kind of back. LaMicheal James has no size.

I doubt he gets moved but if I were to put on my Madden cap, I could see us trading 14 and Felix for 17 and the Bengal's second. He and Bush would be a fine complimentary situation. We could bring in Cedric just to bring it full circle.

[JohnsKey19]

Personally i would not trade Felix. However, if the team is seriously considering using a high draft pick to select a Doug Martin or another RB of that talent, then obviously Felix has to go. I don't think you want Felix or a 2nd rounder as your 3rd string RB.

[jimnabby]

I don't think a 3rd this year and a conditional pick next year is asking for the moon.

I think you are underrating him. I absolutely think he is worth a third rounder maybe with a kicker(not an actual kicker).I think you guys are overrating what he'd bring in a trade.

Marshawn Lynch was traded during the 2010 season for a 4th-rounder in 2011 and a conditional pick (ended up being a 5th-rounder) in 2012. Lynch was under contract through (I believe) 2012, so Seattle was getting him for the last 2.5 seasons of his rookie contract. Felix is only under contract for one more season, has produced less than Lynch had, and you think we'll get more for him?

Now, New England did manage to get a 4th-rounder for one year of Laurence Maroney, but they had to throw in a 6th-rounder as well, and of course they were dealing with McDaniels.

Maybe we could get lucky - it only takes one GM to value him a lot more. But I'm not seeing it.

[Hailmary]

I think you guys are overrating what he'd bring in a trade.

Marshawn Lynch was traded during the 2010 season for a 4th-rounder in 2011 and a conditional pick (ended up being a 5th-rounder) in 2012. Lynch was under contract through (I believe) 2012, so Seattle was getting him for the last 2.5 seasons of his rookie contract. Felix is only under contract for one more season, has produced less than Lynch had, and you think we'll get more for him?

Now, New England did manage to get a 4th-rounder for one year of Laurence Maroney, but they had to throw in a 6th-rounder as well, and of course they were dealing with McDaniels.

Maybe we could get lucky - it only takes one GM to value him a lot more. But I'm not seeing it.
I think it was a poor job by the Bill's front office by not getting more. The production was there and they should have received more. I can see why they were willing to take the deal though. Fred Jackson had won the starting job and they had just spent a first round pick on Spiller. If they needed any more reason unload him, it was the numerous run ins w/ the law.

[a_minimalist]

Maybe we could get lucky - it only takes one GM to value him a lot more. But I'm not seeing it.

Well that's my point. I think he can be sold well to someone of need. He is a very good back.

[jimnabby]

I think it was a poor job by the Bill's front office by not getting more. The production was there and they should have received more. What should they have received? Can you find any comparable trades that suggest RBs are valued in the trade market more than these guys were? I can't. Not saying they don't exist, I just haven't found them.

Let's see, Travis Henry brought a 3rd, but again, he had more production behind him and more time on his contract than Felix (also more baggage, like Lynch).

Reggie Bush was traded for Jonathan Amaya and a swap of 6th-rounders.

[ABQcowboyJR]

If you can get anything for him I pull the trigger. He isn't gonna help us down the line.

[cowboysooner]

What should they have received? Can you find any comparable trades that suggest RBs are valued in the trade market more than these guys were? I can't. Not saying they don't exist, I just haven't found them.

Let's see, Travis Henry brought a 3rd, but again, he had more production behind him and more time on his contract than Felix (also more baggage, like Lynch).

Reggie Bush was traded for Jonathan Amaya and a swap of 6th-rounders.

Reggie Bush was owed $8 or $9 million.