Draft Rumblings...

[Avery]

I grew up with a friend that currently works for Yahoo Sports in an editorial position (and isn't getting laid off by them thankfully). Here are some things making the rounds in league circles.

The Vikings are getting calls about the #3 pick as a few teams think they'll have to leapfrog the Browns for Tannenhill. The Vikings aren't overly interested as they've already set the table for Kalil (wisely IMO). Chance of them moving down is <5% unless a hugely one-sided deal were presented.

Speaking of the Browns, Richardson seems to be the consensus and likely at this point. QB will be the focus in the second day.

Jacksonville is the hardest team to peg right now. There's a legitimate 5 or 6 players they could take at #7. If he were to guess, Coples would be the pick, but total tossup.

Poe will not be available at #14. Carolina loves him but also loves Cox. KC will not pass on Poe if he's there.

Dallas would prefer to go with Poe or Cox at #14, but if they're not available, would listen to phone calls and take Barron. Isn't convinced that this pick isn't moved to secure more depth.

Decastro is falling on draft boards not because of anything he's done wrong, but simply due to positional value. Won't escape outside of the teens, but can't see him going higher than the Cards and even that's a stretch.

Patriots will trade up for an impact player. The window is closing for them and while the offense can still get them close to a championship, defense needs help. They're said to like Nick Perry, but will have to trade into the mid-round to get him.

Biggest surprise to be picked early? Nick Perry. Biggest faller? Michael Brockers.

[johnnyd]

I grew up with a friend that currently works for Yahoo Sports in an editorial position (and isn't getting laid off by them thankfully). Here are some things making the rounds in league circles.

The Vikings are getting calls about the #3 pick as a few teams think they'll have to leapfrog the Browns for Tannenhill. The Vikings aren't overly interested as they've already set the table for Kalil (wisely IMO). Chance of them moving down is <5% unless a hugely one-sided deal were presented.

Speaking of the Browns, Richardson seems to be the consensus and likely at this point. QB will be the focus in the second day.

Jacksonville is the hardest team to peg right now. There's a legitimate 5 or 6 players they could take at #7. If he were to guess, Coples would be the pick, but total tossup.

Poe will not be available at #14. Carolina loves him but also loves Cox. KC will not pass on Poe if he's there.

Dallas would prefer to go with Poe or Cox at #14, but if they're not available, would listen to phone calls and take Barron. Isn't convinced that this pick isn't moved to secure more depth.

Decastro is falling on draft boards not because of anything he's done wrong, but simply due to positional value. Won't escape outside of the teens, but can't see him going higher than the Cards and even that's a stretch.

Patriots will trade up for an impact player. The window is closing for them and while the offense can still get them close to a championship, defense needs help. They're said to like Nick Perry, but will have to trade into the mid-round to get him.

Biggest surprise to be picked early? Nick Perry. Biggest faller? Michael Brockers.

Thanks for the updates.

The pats can have 14 for 27+31 so i an grab mcclellin& zeitler ..:D

[Avery]

Thanks for the updates.

The pats can have 14 for 27+31 so i an grab mcclellin& zeitler ..:D

Depending on how the board shakes out, #14 for #27 and #31 would be extremely tempting.

[Tobal]

Zietler, Mclellin and Jones are really moving up the board. Glenn is one of the ones falling, also seeing the LSU WR peek into the 1st round, not sure how that impacts wright.

Broyles I think is in the 3rd round now, which is bad for us I think.

[GloryDaysRBack]

I was just thinking about this yesterday..

If both Poe and Barron are available..you are hearing we'd take Poe?

[unionjack8]

Thanks for the updates.

The pats can have 14 for 27+31 so i an grab mcclellin& zeitler ..:D


I'D MUCH RATHER AVE DECASTRO AT 14 AND EITHER RONNELL LEWIS OR BRUCE IRVIN

[fanfromvirginia]

Thanks for the updates.

The pats can have 14 for 27+31 so i an grab mcclellin& zeitler ..:D
I have been suggesting the idea of trading down to the end of the round for several days to get McClellin and another player. To me there are likely going to be at least a few very good guys available there that would fit needs. I don't see that big a difference between a guy like McClellin and any of the other OLBs or to grab another example, between Barron and Konz. Or Zeitler for that matter. And then picking again at 45 would be the icing on the cake.

[johnnyd]

I'D MUCH RATHER AVE DECASTRO AT 14 AND EITHER RONNELL LEWIS OR BRUCE IRVIN

good for you. I wouldnt be upset with your option but i just like mine better. :)

[Bluestang]

Decastro is falling on draft boards not because of anything he's done wrong, but simply due to positional value. Won't escape outside of the teens, but can't see him going higher than the Cards and even that's a stretch.

I knew this was going to happen because of the position he plays and how deep this position goes in the draft.

While he is the most ready to play in the NFL, taking him at 14 while a more scarce defensive player remains on the board is the makings for a terrible draft.

[Avery]

I was just thinking about this yesterday..

If both Poe and Barron are available..you are hearing we'd take Poe?

That was the opinion of that sportswriter. It should be a moot point, however, as Poe is supposively the envy of Pioli and KC and they'd select him over Kuechly.

[GloryDaysRBack]

That was the opinion of that sportswriter. It should be a moot point, however, as Poe is supposively the envy of Pioli and KC and they'd select him over Kuechly.

yes, it does appear as if both Cox and Poe will be gone by 14..its looking more and more like 2 options at 14

1) Barron
2) Trade down

Im thinking we go with Barron because our other options are gone and moving down doesnt make sense bc then we will lose out on all of our targets

[mensaone]

I knew this was going to happen because of the position he plays and how deep this position goes in the draft.

While he is the most ready to play in the NFL, taking him at 14 while a more scarce defensive player remains on the board is the makings for a terrible draft.

wow an what great Defensive player is there at 14 ? besides Barron

lets finish the O line up with what we started with last year

with DeCastro we probably get ten years outta both him and Smith

JERRY PLEASE DRAFT DECASTRO AT 14

[Dash28]

Who has been rumored to like Cox outside of Panthers before us?

I received a text from my friend in Charlotte last night saying Panthers hoping for Blackmon to fall and if not they will select Floyd.

Also to be talking about packaging their 2nd with JStew to move into first for DT.

*No it's not a "source" just passing along the information I received.

I'm starting to think that DeCastro, Cox and Barron will be there at 14.

[cowboysooner]

wow an what great Defensive player is there at 14 ? besides Barron

lets finish the O line up with what we started with last year

with DeCastro we probably get ten years outta both him and Smith

JERRY PLEASE DRAFT DECASTRO AT 14

Michael Brockers is a Ted Washington starter kit. I know its not glamorous to stop the run and occupy 2 guys, but even Ratliff is only a partial double team guy. We are missing a presence on the defensive front.

[Avery]

I'm starting to think that DeCastro, Cox and Barron will be there at 14.

It would seem that Decastro and Barron will be. Cox is probably the highest-riser in this entire draft and, if I were betting, will not be there.

I'd rather have Decastro than Barron as Decastro is about as can't miss as you can get in this draft.

[Dash28]

It would seem that Decastro and Barron will be. Cox is probably the highest-riser in this entire draft and, if I were betting, will not be there.

I'd rather have Decastro than Barron as Decastro is about as can't miss as you can get in this draft.
We can't go wrong selecting out of those three imo.

[SMASHMOUTH9473]

If I could get the 27th and 31st from NE for the 14th pick I'd go with McClellan OLB and Zielter OG. Then hope that Reyes DE is there @ 45. Now we have Spencer's replacement. Zeilter would start and Reyes would push Coleman out the door.

[GloryDaysRBack]

We can't go wrong selecting out of those three imo.

Rams could take cox..good chance they do actually..jags and panthers too

[Dash28]

Rams could take cox..good chance they do actually..jags and panthers too
It's possible but I don't see the Rams or Jags at all.

[Rockytop6]

Who has been rumored to like Cox outside of Panthers before us?

I received a text from my friend in Charlotte last night saying Panthers hoping for Blackmon to fall and if not they will select Floyd.

Also to be talking about packaging their 2nd with JStew to move into first for DT.

*No it's not a "source" just passing along the information I received.

I'm starting to think that DeCastro, Cox and Barron will be there at 14.

I would be very happy with those three in that order listed. I would prefer a trade down to pick up Barron but the way he is moving up the board he probably would not be available. My choices would be DeCastro, Cox and Barron.

[sonnyboy]

I grew up with a friend that currently works for Yahoo Sports in an editorial position (and isn't getting laid off by them thankfully). Here are some things making the rounds in league circles.

The Vikings are getting calls about the #3 pick as a few teams think they'll have to leapfrog the Browns for Tannenhill. The Vikings aren't overly interested as they've already set the table for Kalil (wisely IMO). Chance of them moving down is <5% unless a hugely one-sided deal were presented.

Speaking of the Browns, Richardson seems to be the consensus and likely at this point. QB will be the focus in the second day.

Jacksonville is the hardest team to peg right now. There's a legitimate 5 or 6 players they could take at #7. If he were to guess, Coples would be the pick, but total tossup.

Poe will not be available at #14. Carolina loves him but also loves Cox. KC will not pass on Poe if he's there.

Dallas would prefer to go with Poe or Cox at #14, but if they're not available, would listen to phone calls and take Barron. Isn't convinced that this pick isn't moved to secure more depth.

Decastro is falling on draft boards not because of anything he's done wrong, but simply due to positional value. Won't escape outside of the teens, but can't see him going higher than the Cards and even that's a stretch.

Patriots will trade up for an impact player. The window is closing for them and while the offense can still get them close to a championship, defense needs help. They're said to like Nick Perry, but will have to trade into the mid-round to get him.

Biggest surprise to be picked early? Nick Perry. Biggest faller? Michael Brockers.


This is fascinating and thanks for posting. But you all do realize that this is the time of the year that the intentional mis-information put out by teams peaks.

[sonnyboy]

Thanks for the updates.

The pats can have 14 for 27+31 so i an grab mcclellin& zeitler ..:D


I'd be all over that! Going off the draft value chart.....1100 points for the 14th and 1280 for picks 27 and 31. Fair enough premium for me.

[GloryDaysRBack]

It's possible but I don't see the Rams or Jags at all.

Why aren't you buying STL? They have a major hole at DT

[Hoofbite]

I'm almost to the point where I would go with anyone but Poe.

Cannot risk the #14 overall pick on hopes, prayers and magic fairy dust.

[AbeBeta]

Depending on how the board shakes out, #14 for #27 and #31 would be extremely tempting.

We'd have to kick something back on that (likely a 4th)

If we are back that far I would see the most logical targets as Konz and Hightower. Both those guys were coached by guys who Garrett knows.

[AbeBeta]

I'd be all over that! Going off the draft value chart.....1100 points for the 14th and 1280 for picks 27 and 31. Fair enough premium for me.

The Pats aren't going to do that deal -- they know the value.

[Hoofbite]

The Pats aren't going to do that deal -- they know the value.

There's no way the Pats do that deal.

I think they'll end up moving up with one of their picks a little bit and then using the other 1st to get another 1st rounder next year.

[Dash28]

Why aren't you buying STL? They have a major hole at DT
I just think they would take Blackmon over him at 6.

I do agree that DT is a major hole.

[phildominator]

The Vikings are getting calls about the #3 pick as a few teams think they'll have to leapfrog the Browns for Tannenhill.

Speaking of the Browns, Richardson seems to be the consensus and likely at this point. QB will be the focus in the second day.

Interesting that it's listed the Browns' likely pick is Richardson, but a few think they'd have to jump in front of the Browns to get Tannenhill. If the Browns were to draft Tannenhill, I figure they'd be able to trade down -- #4 seems way to high for Tannenhill.

[TheCount]

I knew this was going to happen because of the position he plays and how deep this position goes in the draft.

While he is the most ready to play in the NFL, taking him at 14 while a more scarce defensive player remains on the board is the makings for a terrible draft.

DeCastro is not falling. He's goig exactly where an elite guard would go, mid teens. Only someone with complete disregard for draft history would think we was going to go Top 10.

14, for an elite guard, is about right and not that far off from where the best guards and centers have gone in recent years.

[btcutter]

If I could get the 27th and 31st from NE for the 14th pick I'd go with McClellan OLB and Zielter OG. Then hope that Reyes DE is there @ 45. Now we have Spencer's replacement. Zeilter would start and Reyes would push Coleman out the door.

Given how fast McClellan is rising he may not last till 27th pick. You better have a few more options or else you'll be disappointed.

[Randy White]

Patriots will trade up for an impact player. The window is closing for them and while the offense can still get them close to a championship, defense needs help. They're said to like Nick Perry, but will have to trade into the mid-round to get him..


Give me #27, #48, and a #1 in 2013 for #14 and let's go to work.

[fanfromvirginia]

Given how fast McClellan is rising he may not last till 27th pick. You better have a few more options or else you'll be disappointed.
Off the top of my head you are looking at Konz, Hightower and any number of currently unidentifiable players who they like, are projected to go higher but somehow drop that far due to any number of reasons (such as a run on a position we aren't particularly interested in.

I halfway expect a trade down at this point.

[mensaone]

DeCastro is not falling. He's goig exactly where an elite guard would go, mid teens. Only someone with complete disregard for draft history would think we was going to go Top 10.

14, for an elite guard, is about right and not that far off from where the best guards and centers have gone in recent years.


DING DING DING

LETS DRAFT THE KID

[texbumthelife]

Every year it's the same thing-All these players "moving up" but no one moving down. I think Cox, Ingram, Decastro and Barron will all be there. Any one of the four would make me happy and then I do whatever necessary to move back into the late first for Zeitler.

[mensaone]

Every year it's the same thing-All these players "moving up" but no one moving down. I think Cox, Ingram, Decastro and Barron will all be there. Any one of the four would make me happy and then I do whatever necessary to move back into the late first for Zeitler.

or Hightower

[texbumthelife]

or Hightower

If we go Cox or Ingram I would rather go Zeitler than Hightower but, if we go Decastro moving up for Hightower would make the draft IMO. I would not care about anything else.

[Avery]

I think Tannenhill is Miami-bound myself. I'm not buying anything with the Browns taking him. If they were to go QB/RB in the first two rounds (excluding their other first rounder which should be for BPA or a WR), Richardson/Weeden sounds much better than Tannenhill/Lamar Miller.

I think Weeden to the Browns is a strong possibility at the top of round two. I don't think Holmgren can afford to wait around and develop a QB and Weeden could step in and be effective from day one over McCoy.

[Fla Cowpoke]

I would take DeCastro at 14 and never look back.

I do like Barron, Cox and Brockers, as well as a few others, but I think DeCastro is clearly the BPA among those. If all 4 are there and we take someone other than DeCastro, we are drafting for need.

I am not completely against that, as there are some decent guards that you can get later. But DeCastro is the best prospect likely to be there at 14.

[Eskimo]

There's no way the Pats do that deal.

I think they'll end up moving up with one of their picks a little bit and then using the other 1st to get another 1st rounder next year.

IDK, they may want to get better now while Brady is still elite to take another shot at a championship. Time stands still for no one and they are very, very close right now to winning another SB.

They need an impact defender and if they find one they want it makes sense for them to trade up and get him then set there and lose him to someone else. If there is one truism I've learned in the draft lately it is that QBs, OTs and pass rushers rise while RBs, OGs and run stuffers fall. It is just the transition of the league to pass orientation versus the traditional way we have valued college FB players.

[Eskimo]

Given how fast McClellan is rising he may not last till 27th pick. You better have a few more options or else you'll be disappointed.

There will also be Branch, Mercilus and Hightower in the mix down there as well.