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nathanlt
04-17-2012, 09:11 AM
Why is it that the Cowboys don't draft any players from the University of Texas? I can't even remember a player that the Cowboys have ever picked from UT.

Does anyone know why that is, just a matter of chance, or what? You would think, scouting in their own backyard might produce some results. Maybe they know their weaknesses too well or something.

respectdatstar
04-17-2012, 09:13 AM
How is Austin their backyard? Wouldn't Baylor be their backyard?

DBOY3141
04-17-2012, 09:18 AM
Because most are soft. :)

nathanlt
04-17-2012, 09:24 AM
How is Austin their backyard? Wouldn't Baylor be their backyard?

Well, that's a good point, but I can't even think of any Texas players that have been drafted by Dallas, and thousands of them have been drafted in the NFL.

BrAinPaiNt
04-17-2012, 09:27 AM
Well, that's a good point, but I can't even think of any Texas players that have been drafted by Dallas, and thousands of them have been drafted in the NFL.

Well the cowboys did not draft Roy Williams but even at that time they liked him and later would give up draft picks for him.

However I thought I read that Emanuel Acho and Keenan Robinson were going to be, if they have not already, be brought in for a visit.

ABQcowboyJR
04-17-2012, 09:32 AM
Big acho came last year. I remember them showing interest in earl Thomas. They just never really had a shot at him.

supercowboy8
04-17-2012, 09:33 AM
Can you show me Texas player the cowboys should have drafted. Sorry but most Texas players bust.

supercowboy8
04-17-2012, 09:35 AM
Big acho came last year. I remember them showing interest in earl Thomas. They just never really had a shot at him.
True they really wanted Thomas.

I don't think its anything with Texas I just think the players they really liked just wasn't there when they had a chance to pick them.

No reason to draft a guy from Texas just because he is from Texas when there is a better player there to draft.

Chocolate Lab
04-17-2012, 09:39 AM
We "drafted" Roy Williams in 2009...

And how could you forget the legendary Wane McGarity?

Hostile
04-17-2012, 09:43 AM
Over the years they have drafted 9 players from Texas. The last was WR Wane McGarity in 1999. They have not had success taking players from Texas in their History. The best was probably Don Talbert, the first they ever did take. They took one player from Texas each of their first 4 NFL Drafts. Then didn't do it again until 1986 when they took 2 and 1987 when they also took two. Then finally a long break to McGarity.

Manwiththeplan
04-17-2012, 09:48 AM
Why is it that the Cowboys don't draft any players from the University of Texas? I can't even remember a player that the Cowboys have ever picked from UT.

Does anyone know why that is, just a matter of chance, or what? You would think, scouting in their own backyard might produce some results. Maybe they know their weaknesses too well or something.

Value just likely has never matched up, we have signed a few/traded for a few in Leonard Davis and Roy Williams, but the value never has warrented us taking one, atleast not early.

dillinger319
04-17-2012, 10:01 AM
Because most are soft. :)

This!!! Every once in a while someone will be tough but they are very soft

Randy White
04-17-2012, 10:08 AM
Texas..

How come they haven't drafted ANY players from Da U ? Last one, if I remember correctly, was Kevin Williams in 1993 ?

As Michael Irvin likes to point out: " the last 2 Cowboys starting receivers with Superbowl rings came from Da U ".


and I'm a Nebraska fan, by the way, so I don't have a a stake on this one.

Manwiththeplan
04-17-2012, 10:23 AM
As Michael Irvin likes to point out: " the last 2 Cowboys starting receivers with Superbowl rings came from Da U ".

When was the last time we drafted someone from Sanoma State, the last guy we drafted from there became the best player at his position.....

Hostile
04-17-2012, 10:27 AM
Texas..

How come they haven't drafted ANY players from Da U ? Last one, if I remember correctly, was Kevin Williams in 1993 ?

As Michael Irvin likes to point out: " the last 2 Cowboys starting receivers with Superbowl rings came from Da U ".


and I'm a Nebraska fan, by the way, so I don't have a a stake on this one.In direct opposition to the lack of success from Texas, we seemed to usually hit on players from Miami, but none have been taken since Jimmy exited stage left.

ABQCOWBOY
04-17-2012, 10:35 AM
Everybody here knows I'm a Texas fan. Having said that, this BS abut Texas players being soft or whatever is ridiculous. You guys do realize that the cornerstone of this franchise played at Texas right?

Zaxor
04-17-2012, 10:35 AM
I'm a UT fan and I think they have had pretty good success with the cowboys of course "the" "UT" is the university of Tennessee

kmd24
04-17-2012, 11:05 AM
IIRC, we gave Kalen Thornton a shot when Parcells was here. I suppose he was an UDFA, though.

nathanlt
04-17-2012, 11:18 AM
I'm a UT fan and I think they have had pretty good success with the cowboys of course "the" "UT" is the university of Tennessee

Ha! Most of my family lives in Oregon, my wife is from Oklahoma, we have friends from Ohio, so there's a whole lot of confusion when it comes to discussing OU, UO, OSU, OSU, and OSU football.

Mr Cowboy
04-17-2012, 11:22 AM
There are more NFL Pro Football Hall of Famers from a small University in Kingsville, Tx, then there are from University of Texas or Texas A&M.

Randy White
04-17-2012, 11:54 AM
In direct opposition to the lack of success from Texas, we seemed to usually hit on players from Miami, but none have been taken since Jimmy exited stage left.


It almost seems like it's a " personal directive " ( to not draft any UM players ) from an outsider's view. It's probably silly to think that, but almost 20 years without drafting a player from a school with the most players drafted by the league in it's history ?

Bonecrusher#31
04-17-2012, 12:03 PM
UT(horns) players are talented but they are also generally speaking mentally fragile, pampered and tend to underachieve in the NFL.

Muhast
04-17-2012, 12:39 PM
We need to draft SEC players.

ABQcowboyJR
04-17-2012, 12:47 PM
UT(horns) players are talented but they are also generally speaking mentally fragile, pampered and tend to underachieve in the NFL.

I don't think this is true. You just talking about Roy?

Illini88228
04-17-2012, 04:41 PM
I don't think this is true. You just talking about Roy?

Vince Young did a lot to reinforce that stereotype.

baj1dallas
04-17-2012, 04:44 PM
Everybody here knows I'm a Texas fan. Having said that, this BS abut Texas players being soft or whatever is ridiculous. You guys do realize that the cornerstone of this franchise played at Texas right?

Come on man that's got nothing to do with anything any more.

Everybody knows that Mack Brown runs that program like a country club and that players come into the league unprepared for hard work, discipline, and professionalism. Name one highly regarded UT player that came into the league ready to put his head down, work hard, and become an integral part of a successful team.

StylisticS
04-17-2012, 04:49 PM
Come on man that's got nothing to do with anything any more.

Everybody knows that Mack Brown runs that program like a country club and that players come into the league unprepared for hard work, discipline, and professionalism. Name one highly regarded UT player that came into the league ready to put his head down, work hard, and become an integral part of a successful team.
Brian Orakpo?

junk
04-17-2012, 05:06 PM
Everybody here knows I'm a Texas fan. Having said that, this BS abut Texas players being soft or whatever is ridiculous. You guys do realize that the cornerstone of this franchise played at Texas right?

Who is that?

Rynie
04-17-2012, 05:14 PM
Who cares. Texas isn't the end-all-be-all of football, like you "longhorns" tend to think.. get over yourselves.

ABQcowboyJR
04-17-2012, 05:24 PM
Come on man that's got nothing to do with anything any more.

Everybody knows that Mack Brown runs that program like a country club and that players come into the league unprepared for hard work, discipline, and professionalism. Name one highly regarded UT player that came into the league ready to put his head down, work hard, and become an integral part of a successful team.

Derek Johnson, Earl Thomas, Jamaal Charles....there are still more.

ABQCOWBOY
04-17-2012, 07:17 PM
Who is that?

Coach Tom Landry.

junk
04-17-2012, 07:22 PM
Coach Tom Landry.

Oh, I thought you were talking about of the current franchise.

Comparing Landry's time to now isn't really relevant.

I still think Texas may have been one of the schools that Parcells was referring to when he talked about country club schools. There have been quite a few picks that went relatively high that were pretty bad busts.

ABQCOWBOY
04-17-2012, 07:27 PM
Oh, I thought you were talking about of the current franchise.

Comparing Landry's time to now isn't really relevant.

I still think Texas may have been one of the schools that Parcells was referring to when he talked about country club schools. There have been quite a few picks that went relatively high that were pretty bad busts.

He may have been but then again, there are some 50 players from Texas who are currently playing on NFL Rosters and the entire culture of Texas Football started changing once they brought in Muschamp. It has continued to change as the staff and the way Texas runs it's program, top to bottom, has changed. I don't think it's fair to say that a comment made several years ago about an unspecified program is what Texas Football represents any longer. Even if true at one time, which is debatable, I don't think you can say that any longer.

Bonecrusher#31
04-17-2012, 07:28 PM
Ask the Steelers about Limas Sweed

junk
04-17-2012, 07:39 PM
He may have been but then again, there are some 50 players from Texas who are currently playing on NFL Rosters and the entire culture of Texas Football started changing once they brought in Muschamp. It has continued to change as the staff and the way Texas runs it's program, top to bottom, has changed. I don't think it's fair to say that a comment made several years ago about an unspecified program is what Texas Football represents any longer. Even if true at one time, which is debatable, I don't think you can say that any longer.

Has seemed to be better lately.

ABQCOWBOY
04-17-2012, 07:42 PM
Ask the Steelers about Limas Sweed

Why don't you ask the Steelers about Casey Hampton? Heck, the Steelers haven't drafted an OU player in like 50 years. Does that mean that the Steelers view OU the same way the Cowboys are supposed to view Texas players because of how often they draft them?

Teague31
04-17-2012, 07:43 PM
Where is wane mcgarity when you need him?

ABQCOWBOY
04-17-2012, 07:43 PM
Has seemed to be better lately.

A lot has changed at Texas the last few years. I think for the better but time will tell.

I think that not drafting Texas players in recent years has more to do with the fact that Texas has been running more of a spread offense and an undersized 43 on defense. The Cowboys don't fit either of those schemes. I think that this has more to do with why the Cowboys have drafted fewer players from that program then anything but that's just my own opinion.

Bonecrusher#31
04-17-2012, 07:50 PM
even when some of these Country Club UT players are good they turn out to be classic head cases like VY, "Sticky" Ricky, Cedric....

ABQCOWBOY
04-17-2012, 07:58 PM
even when some of these Country Club UT players are good they turn out to be classic head cases like VY, "Sticky" Ricky, Cedric....

Or Orakpo, Shipley, Colt, Melton, Finley, Okam, Charles, Robison, Houston, Scott, Crowder, Miller, Scaife, Vasher or Hampton. Yeah, they are all head cases.

DFWJC
04-18-2012, 12:16 AM
Come on man that's got nothing to do with anything any more.

Everybody knows that Mack Brown runs that program like a country club and that players come into the league unprepared for hard work, discipline, and professionalism. Name one highly regarded UT player that came into the league ready to put his head down, work hard, and become an integral part of a successful team.

Earl Thomas...Brian Arakpo...even Colt McCoy and Shipley got rave reviews for work ethic. And this is just the last few seasons

DFWJC
04-18-2012, 12:18 AM
Or Orakpo, Shipley, Colt, Melton, Finley, Okam, Charles, Robison, Houston, Scott, Crowder, Miller, Scaife, Vasher or Hampton. Yeah, they are all head cases.

Beat me to it.
I didn't even go to UT but this simplistic stereotyping gets old